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[Magic]

The ball has been on the ground for about eight seconds.

Must be like watching the SPL.

[niko_cee]

Is Rostov just about the worst tie you can get in terms of travelling? I guess Kazakhstan might be a bit worse.

Actually looking it up, Amkar Perm and Rubin Kazan are the really bad ones.

Don't Kazan play in Moscow or was that just Anzhi?

[niko_cee]

Yev's concern (that crowds wouldn't celebrate until they knew for sure a goal stood) doesn't ring true for me. Crowds celebrate now even though there's a chance it'll be ruled out. That chance wouldn't drastically increase with technology.

Goal goes in, if you've any nous you look at the linesman, and as soon as you see no flag you know it's a goal. You lose that with video review.

[Reg]

You look at the linesman before celebrating at a live game? :D

[Adamski]

For debatable ones? Absolutely.

[Adramelch]

Don't Kazan play in Moscow or was that just Anzhi?

They play in Kazan, surely? And Anzhi are from Makhasomething or whatever the second word in their name is, so I assume they play there. I think all the Moscow clubs (the popular ones) have the Moscow affix in their name (CSKA, Spartak, Lokomotiv, Dynamo and so on).

[Yevrah]

Yev's concern (that crowds wouldn't celebrate until they knew for sure a goal stood) doesn't ring true for me. Crowds celebrate now even though there's a chance it'll be ruled out. That chance wouldn't drastically increase with technology.

It's not just the crowds but the players too. And the chance would increase hugely as basically anything not cast iron would be allowed by the ref in the knowledge that it'll be picked up by the video review.

[Reg]

For debatable ones? Absolutely.
I imagine that must take away quite a lot of the thrill of a live goal, which is the best thing about going to a game. I don't know anyone who does that. If everyone did that, the ball would hit the net, there'd be silence for a few seconds, then a roar. It'd be bizarre.

[Giggles]

NFL teams and fans always celebrate still even though every score is automatically reviewed.

[Disco]

People celebrate as normal and if something is reviewed/checked then they normally get to celebrate again.

[Lewis]

These commies are such diving bastards. Between that and the pitch, their league must be blinding. No wonder they kick each other in for entertainment.

[Magic]

:harold:

Better get used to it.

[niko_cee]

I imagine that must take away quite a lot of the thrill of a live goal, which is the best thing about going to a game. I don't know anyone who does that. If everyone did that, the ball would hit the net, there'd be silence for a few seconds, then a roar. It'd be bizarre.

There's obviously an element of context. You probably wouldn't be glancing too much after Sergi Roberto's goal last night, for example, and perhaps I do it more because most of the live football I watch isn't a team I truly support.

[ItalAussie]

Video assistance might make them a bit less inclined to try it out, though, don't you think?

Of course if that doesn't happen, you'd see a good few years of 110 minute games.

Why? If they get touched, even glancingly, they're free to go down with impunity as it is.

[Adamski]

I imagine that must take away quite a lot of the thrill of a live goal, which is the best thing about going to a game. I don't know anyone who does that. If everyone did that, the ball would hit the net, there'd be silence for a few seconds, then a roar. It'd be bizarre.

You've never paused after a goal you thought might be offside to check to see if offside was given before celebrating?

[Jimmy Floyd]

They play in Kazan, surely? And Anzhi are from Makhasomething or whatever the second word in their name is, so I assume they play there. I think all the Moscow clubs (the popular ones) have the Moscow affix in their name (CSKA, Spartak, Lokomotiv, Dynamo and so on).

Anzhi played their CL ties in Moscow, the year they were in it, because Makachkhala (I'm close there but probably no cigar) is/was a war zone.

I've definitely seen Rubin play out a 1-1 draw with Barcelona at their proper ground though. It was basically Wildlings (away) in the Westeros Cup 1st round.

[Offshore Toon]

Yev's concern (that crowds wouldn't celebrate until they knew for sure a goal stood) doesn't ring true for me. Crowds celebrate now even though there's a chance it'll be ruled out. That chance wouldn't drastically increase with technology.
There are so many idiots that celebrate prematurely. I get that the ripple of the side netting can be deceptive, but when you don't see the players celebrating there's clearly something wrong.

[Reg]

You've never paused after a goal you thought might be offside to check to see if offside was given before celebrating?
I can't remember ever doing that but it has probably happened a few times. Not even close to a regular thing.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The linesman turning like a barge and heading back towards halfway is always a glorious moment.

[Mazuuurk]

Why? If they get touched, even glancingly, they're free to go down with impunity as it is.

It just gives the ref a chance to view something they might have been uncertain about again. Probably the ref shouldn't view it himself but get the 4th to do it and just give some imput.

If it means every single decision is challanged, then maybe just remove it. But giving the referee more tools at his disposal should he need them is not bad IMO. Just makes the game more fair, and I don't see how seeing something twice or getting a second opinion on your call is going to hurt.

Players can't just toss themselves for being nudged all the time. They get away with it sometimes but a lot of the time they don't, and video reviews would only help I think.

[ItalAussie]

Players can't just toss themselves for being nudged all the time. They get away with it sometimes but a lot of the time they don't, and video reviews would only help I think.
But it's within the rules, so the fourth official can't do anything about it.

"Sure, he shouldn't have nudged you, but that nudge wasn't enough for you to go down."
"I was running fast and off-balance. Prove I wasn't."

All a fourth official on this stuff would do would infuriate people. Just take the people seeing the Suarez penalty and saying it's perfectly and obviously clear, then coming to different conclusions.

[Mazuuurk]

Well what you're saying is that people are already getting upset when there's ambiguity, right?
Shouldn't video reviews help reduce ambiguity? How could it ever hurt having seen something two times instead of once?
If you're still uncertain - then don't award a penalty! You're essentially just giving the Referee more eyes. And if a 4th or 5th or 6th person is watching, it doesn't have to slow the game down more than any random injury would. And these are match-defining moments as well. You're not gonna do it every time there's ambiguity around a corner, for instance.

I mean look at Ice Hockey, they manage just fine figuring out who was the worst tackler without checking the videos every time. They just use it if they really have to, and when they do it takes about 30 seconds extra.

The Suarez case might be a bad example, because it clearly looked very different to different people even on video (and if that's the case my vote would be don't award the penalty, but yeah).

[Adramelch]

A foul is supposedly committed, the referee gives a penalty (with the ball still being played) and then they decide with video review that it wasn't a penalty. How do you restart play from there? Just wondering.