Brendan Rodgers sacked

[Luke Emia]

Can't be arsed to post a poll but his time is very much nearing the end. Maybe this could turn into a Steve McClaren style thread and people could post funny pictures of him whilst he goes off and speaks pretend Dutch.

I haven't heard what he's had to say tonight but I'm sure we were excellent.

[Mike]

As soon as Villa beat us we need a thread with very clear title to get high on google ;)

[Giggles]

'Outstanding'.

He has to be fucked.

[Luke Emia]

Rumour has it he said our performance had enough about it. What does that even mean?

[Reg]

The team won. Through to the next round. What a boss.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Not many managers could have pulled that result out of the bag tonight. He just needs time.

[P_3]

Probably time we wheeled out Dalglish again.

[Sam]

I think he needs to be given more time, clearly building something.

[Mike]

Twitter is/was gone in the morning stuff. 9:15 press conference. I think he'll be here until at least Christmas.
Many the thread a rename to
"Brendan Rodgers Sacked" for some click bait.

[Giggles]

http://www.footballfancast.com/premier-league/liverpool/my-sheer-joy-at-the-rise-and-fall-of-liverpool-s-brendan-rodgers

[Baz]

Man came second two years ago. Would've probably won it if it wasn't for the Stezza Intimidation Factor™ and all. Can't be sacked.

I doubt they'd even handle it like they did with King Kenny (at least let him finish the season and pay him a fat stack, on the back of his legendary status) because the fella just needs a bit of time for the squad to find they're rythm.

All aboard the Sir Brendan bandwagon. He'll be knighted within fifteen years. Liverpool's first ever knighthood too, what a man. Soz Rafa, mate.

Also, I drove past Melwood yesterday and it was the busiest I'd ever seen it, for fans standing on things to have a look at them training. Literally at least a hundred people knocking about. Wanting to watch Rodgers' last training session? Or wanting to let the team know they've still got faith? Never the former.

[Ian]

Or people curious as to what it is that's being hidden from them.

Not much, probably.

[Giggles]

Man came second two years ago. Would've probably won it if it wasn't for the Stezza Intimidation Factor™ and all. Can't be sacked.

I doubt they'd even handle it like they did with King Kenny (at least let him finish the season and pay him a fat stack, on the back of his legendary status) because the fella just needs a bit of time for the squad to find they're rythm.

All aboard the Sir Brendan bandwagon. He'll be knighted within fifteen years. Liverpool's first ever knighthood too, what a man. Soz Rafa, mate.

Also, I drove past Melwood yesterday and it was the busiest I'd ever seen it, for fans standing on things to have a look at them training. Literally at least a hundred people knocking about. Wanting to watch Rodgers' last training session? Or wanting to let the team know they've still got faith? Never the former.


Suarez and a fit Sturridge got them 2nd and he grabbed their coat tails. Though you're right on the last point, bunch of crackpots that they are.

[Disco]

He made a rod for his own back with one good season (whether you think it was his influence or not), now he looks shit because they've dropped back to their level. Being a pompous twat doesn't garner much sympathy either, he's like a slightly more talented Paul Lambert.

[Baz]

Or people curious as to what it is that's being hidden from them.

Not much, probably.What do you mean, hidden from them? There's a big concrete fence all around it.

This bit (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4312901,-2.8973555,3a,75y,272.4h,79.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKrBl9k7vzEB81Okr6Om3TA!2e0!7i1 3312!8i6656) was literally teeming with people stood on wheelie bins, looking over the fence. (Also the street I was visiting (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4310397,-2.8967468,3a,75y,222.79h,80.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sm-aolVeJ-shd7KsTsXzx1A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) looks scruffy as hell, but some of the cars parked there were ridiculous. :drool: )

[Luke Emia]

Good to have the quite excellent Daniel Sturridge back today and three goals as well. Just got to ignore what happened down the other end. I'm sure we were 'excellent and showed character' though.

[niko_cee]

They're just going to have to score a hundred goals again to be competitive, with the likes of Skrtel, Sakho, Lovren and Ming 'playing football' at the back. Still, nice to beat Villa at Anfield for the first time in ages. :cab:

[Giggles]

Yeah, his head is fucked.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1aoHARxpOg

[Luke Emia]

Felt sorry for him watching the end of that to be honest. You can see it's taking its toll on him. Yes he has pissed me off over the past season but he also produced the best football I have ever seen Liverpool play and that wasn't all just down to having one brilliant player.

[Boydy]

How were they today?

[Luke Emia]

3 goals and a win. But awful at the back.

[Davgooner]

I think it's harsh to write off the mental season they had as being purely down to 1/2 players being bang at it. They had the quality banging in the goals, but the general play of the whole team was exceptional and truth be told as good as anything this league has ever seen. He's been unlucky with injuries and players turning into cunts since, but I think his underlying philosophy is still bang on and as good as there is around.

[Multi]

I'd agree with that, and I don't know what anyone expected to happen when Suarez bounced and they were left with Sturridge (who must have osteomalacia or something) and Balotelli (lol) to lead the line.

[Yevrah]

I still think he should get a lot more time. A lot more.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He said he wanted to stay 20 years in the paper yesterday, but personally I think he needs longer.

[Spoonsky]

What do you mean, hidden from them? There's a big concrete fence all around it.

This bit (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4312901,-2.8973555,3a,75y,272.4h,79.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKrBl9k7vzEB81Okr6Om3TA!2e0!7i1 3312!8i6656) was literally teeming with people stood on wheelie bins, looking over the fence. (Also the street I was visiting (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4310397,-2.8967468,3a,75y,222.79h,80.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sm-aolVeJ-shd7KsTsXzx1A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) looks scruffy as hell, but some of the cars parked there were ridiculous. :drool: )

I definitely had a dream where I met Fernando Torres at the first bit, though I've never seen it before and didn't know it was a specific place in the dream. Probably bullshit on the part of my brain but still, that's really weird. Recognized it as soon as the streetview opened up.

[Smiffy]

.....

[Yevrah]

Why should he be expected to finish fourth?

[phonics]

Now he's claiming that there is a shadowy regime out to get him the sack.

He's gone full Liverpool. Do you think there's something in the water to make them believe in conspiracy theories? Like how they linked violent crime with smog?


"I am the same guy who nearly won us the league, but better,"

:sick:

[Smiffy]

.....

[Smiffy]

.....

[Boom-Boom]

He's gone. Just been confirmed.

[Mike]

Yup

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/195175-liverpool-fc-part-company-with-brendan-rodgers

[Ian]

Blimey, didn't even consider that that'd happen after today's result. It was decent.

[P_3]

BBC running with it. Adios Brendan, thanks for the one good season.

[Lee]

I didn't think they'd sack him but I haven't been paying that much attention. You'd want Klopp or Ancelotti wouldn't you?

[Davgooner]

Klopp it is.

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/dortmund-fans.gif

[Lewis]

What is Carlo Ancelotti going to do with James Milner and Danny Ings?

[Baz]

Genuinely annoyed.


Mazzarri?

[Lee]

He'll get them winning the league for the 96.

[Gray Fox]

Klopp 4 the Kop.

[Baz]

Change the thread title to Brendan Rodgers Sacked? Get some noobs in.

[Magic]

Sadly inevitable after that media conspiracy. :harold:

[Lewis]

He'll get them winning the league for the 96.

Roma legend. Managed Juventus. He probably opened the gate.

[GS]

Well, that was unexpected.

[Giggles]

On one hand there's always the fear that the next manager might work, but for the moment I'd just love to see the little face on the smug twat.

[CJay]

If we get Klopp. :drool:

We really should have just got rid of Rodgers in the summer, but maybe we had an eye on Klopp and he apparently wanted a break.

[Byron]

I thought he showed excellent character

[Mike]

What Baz said

[Giggles]

What Baz said

Just start a new one. I'd think it warrants it.

[Vim]

Mazzarri?

Mazzarri is awful. :D

[GS]

Surely the issue here is that you've told him last season that he's going to stay on. You let him appoint (presumably) a new back room team. Benteke, at £33m, was his signing (he 'demanded' it, apparently).

You do all of this, and let him spend tens of millions and then sack him after eight games. Either he was the right man in the summer or he wasn't, and if he wasn't then what the fuck are you doing not sacking him at the end of May and letting us do something properly.

It's going to be a square peg in a round hole. Again. There's actually some decent players in the squad who we simply aren't getting anywhere close to the best out of, but what can you do. It's six weeks into the season. Why even bother?

[QE Harold Flair]

It's a good thing someone was here to keep an eye on him. Has there been a 'watch' which hasn't proven successful yet?

[Spoonsky]

What a strange time to do it. Perhaps there was an ultimatum, win today or get fired. Hard to feel too sad about it but it will depend massively on who succeeds him. If we get Klopp then the Red Sox have donned it.

Though GS does make a very good point about the summer signings.

[GS]

You have to assume it's someone like Klopp who has said "I'll only join if it's now" (or similar). Sacking him, putting Sean O'Driscoll in temporary charge and embarking on another American-style "let's interview everyone" shenanigan may finish us as a club.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If you get Klopp you've got a German mentalist with a beard and a fleece. The rest is up for grabs.

[Giggles]

https://vine.co/v/e2OFtXVuh2VV

:D

[GS]

If you get Klopp you've got a German mentalist with a beard and a fleece. The rest is up for grabs.

Perhaps, but he has a track record.

Rodgers was appointed with a track record of a couple of failures at Watford and Reading and a couple of half-decent seasons at Swansea.

I read a good article the other day which made reference to the fact that Rodgers was always talking the club up. Constantly. It was pointed out that the likes of Dalglish and Benitez never had to do this, largely because they'd contributed to making the club great in the first place.

Rodgers was, unfortunately, a spoofer and it was exposed as such when the going started to get tough. Outside the Suarez-inspired mental season, we only had two decent runs and three and a bit seasons in we're still getting nightmares when a ball comes into the box.

[GS]

Let's get the name of the thread changed, by the way.

[QE Harold Flair]

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00345/114595801_football_345168c.jpg

[GS]

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00345/114595801_football_345168c.jpg

Well, it's stuff like this which makes it difficult to have any sympathy for him.

I was gutted when Lord Benitez got the sack, but here I'm just annoyed they didn't sack him in the summer instead of waiting until the start of October.

[Dquincy]

Bring in Paul Ince.

[Giggles]

Bring in Paul Ince.

Is the Rooney rule in yet? He'll need an interview at least.

[CJay]

It was only going to go downhill after he sold Suso. :(

[Dquincy]

Is the Rooney rule in yet? He'll need an interview at least.

:D

[Gray Fox]

I had heard this going around this morning, never believed it but it was the loudest the rumours had been.

However I've heard if Klopp joins he wants done with this committee shite and to be left to it.

[Dquincy]

I had heard this going around this morning, never believed it but it was the loudest the rumours had been.

However I've heard if Klopp joins he wants done with this committee shite and to be left to it.

A German wanting to dictate matters. We've been here before. :uhoh:

[phonics]

650725657429864448

[Dquincy]

Jamie Redknapp phoning in to Sky Sports News.

"Yeah, big surprise this Jim, but ma dad's available..."

[Gray Fox]

https://gyazo.com/06363a16561bdc4cc08f0a80bded4f21.png

[Dquincy]

More detailed insight into the sacking here.

https://youtu.be/ZIvmfTwQK7Q

[Boydy]

What's the envelope thing?

[Ian]

Carragher's reaction to Henry placing his hand on his knee is better.

EDIT: Rodgers waving three envelopes about a summer or two ago, Boyd, and telling the players they contained the names of three players he predicted would let him down. Something along those lines.

[Giggles]

What's the envelope thing?

Really?

[Boydy]

Alex Ferguson did that years ago. Think it was the season that he won the treble.

[CJay]

To be fair, it was part of the Liverpool documentary on Channel 5. All for the cameras. :uhoh:

[GS]

As we've since learned, Brendan Rodgers is not Alex Ferguson.

[Jeet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJki7211aRU

[GS]

To be fair, it was part of the Liverpool documentary on Channel 5. All for the cameras. :uhoh:

I couldn't bring myself to watch that documentary. Pile of shite.

[QE Harold Flair]

Alex Ferguson did that years ago. Think it was the season that he won the treble.

He had the respect of the players. You don't do something like that if you're a Brent type.

[Dquincy]

Haha, that genuinely made me lol.
Jeet

[Toby]

Here was me thinking those JOE lot were on a brilliant streak with those videos, but clearly those posting them have been curating out the shit. Now that Jeet is back on board it makes more sense.

[Dark Soldier]

I quite like them.

https://twitter.com/NOT_MOTD/status/650728959563317249

[Lewis]

http://i47.tinypic.com/1xdgi.jpg

'Phil, son...'

http://i46.tinypic.com/33cyt8i.jpg

'Now then Andy, lad. What's it been? Three years?'

http://i47.tinypic.com/1xdgi.jpg

'About that, son, aye. Listen...'

http://i46.tinypic.com/33cyt8i.jpg

'Here. This had better not be about the Liverpool job.'

http://i47.tinypic.com/1xdgi.jpg

'What? The Liverpool job?'

http://i49.tinypic.com/23ih1jk.jpg

'Yeah. The Liverpool job. I've just seen Brendan Rodgers has gone, and I thought I might be hearing from you.'

http://i47.tinypic.com/1xdgi.jpg

'I don't have anything to do with Liverpool, son. But I have got a job for you...'

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01596/phil_brown_1596943c.jpg

'Yeah?'

http://i47.tinypic.com/1xdgi.jpg

'Fact. Big job as well. National profile, lots of media exposure...'

http://i46.tinypic.com/33cyt8i.jpg

'Go on then, mate. Let's hear it.'

http://i47.tinypic.com/1xdgi.jpg

'I won't lie, son. It's a big rebuilding effort. They're at rock bottom. You'll have to clear all the idiots out, give them a sense of purpose...'

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01514/Phil_Brown_1514380c.jpg

'Oh yeah?'

http://i47.tinypic.com/1xdgi.jpg

'They just seem to be moving from one clown to another thinking they can spend their way out of a hole. It's getting worse. Then you've got all the supporters stuck in the early-eighties...'

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01396/phil-brown_1396186c.jpg

'Idiots. Eighties...'

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01430/phil-brown_1430098c.jpg

'For fu...'

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2009/5/3/1241368516276/Phil-Brown-001.jpg

'What did I say about the fucking Liverpool job?! I'm not falling for it again. Fuck off.'

http://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/58/281x351/109320_1.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/1xdgi.jpg

'Phil? Phil? Hello?'

http://i47.tinypic.com/1xdgi.jpg

'I told you he wouldn't trust me. I might have an idea though...'

http://www.clearlypr.co.uk/PR/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Peter-Mandelson.jpg

'You'd better have.'

http://i61.tinypic.com/30kxftd.jpg

'Andy Gray? The commentator?'

New board.

[Reg]

Notice Jim mentioned Klopp's nationality. He's got a fantastic record and if the bloke was British you wouldn't be able to stop praising him.

GS, I understand the "if he was the right man then" stuff, but it probably wasn't as black and white as 'yes he is', or 'no he isn't'. They clearly had some doubts, decided to give him a go at this season, and haven't liked what they've seen.

Regarding the transfers, it seems unlikely they'd let him be 100% responsible for Benteke and co, after the transfer committee stuff previously. If that was actually the case, well it's a very odd move to sack him now...

[Max Power]

That Henry/Carragher vine is so good. I can't stop watching.

Liverpool clearly acting sharply to nab Allardici before Sunderland

[Giggles]

Notice Jim mentioned Klopp's nationality. He's got a fantastic record and if the bloke was British you wouldn't be able to stop praising him.


It's just lucky he's not French.

[Giggles]

Oh and we need Taz here for this.


Don :************)

[Jimmy Floyd]

Is he, or is he not German?

[Lewis]

He's from Good Footballania, where they speak in Good Football.

[Giggles]

He's from Good Footballania, where they speak in Good Football.

More to the point is that he seems to be the type to come ready made for the tinfoil hat. Even Brent had to develop into that.

[Giggles]

Has De Boer fell completely out of contention then?

[Reg]

Read your post again:


If you get Klopp you've got a German mentalist with a beard and a fleece. The rest is up for grabs.
As if you'd sum his career up like that if he was a Londoner.

[Lewis]

They should hire Roberto Martinez. I believe they have his phone number.

[Gray Fox]

I we have done this for De Boer then just pack it all up now.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If he was a Londoner he'd be running an oyster bar in Hoxton.

[Luke Emia]

Let's face facts best we could get at the minute is probably Klopp maybe Ancelotti. So it's not going to be either of them because this is Liverpool and they deal in crushing any optimism that I may have. Advocaat it is then.

[Boydy]

What's Jurgen Klinsmann up to these days? He could be decent if Klopp isn't possible.

[Benny]

What's Jurgen Klinsmann up to these days? He could be decent if Klopp isn't possible.

Managing the US National side, IIRC.

[Boydy]

Still? He should fuck that off.

[Jeet]

This was like 2 lolz in one:

Carra "Liverpool have become Spurs, think they're a big club but the top teams ain't worried about them or who they buy"

[Yevrah]

Goodnight sweet prince.

[niko_cee]

The owners must have expected to lose today.

Imagine the meeting if they'd won.

At least if they get Zee German he might know what to do with Firmino. Harry Redknapp or Sam Allardyce though. :drool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Klopp is actually basically perfect for them on paper. Whether that should set alarm bells ringing I don't know. I imagine there are far, far fewer wankers in German football than here but if he can deal with that he'd probably do a job. 4th is wide open anyway so I don't see why a good appointment shouldn't get them there.

[Magic]

Did you mean to post that in the Mourinho watch thread?

:eyemouth:

[Vim]

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12108803_10204863815219642_942236225266212419_n.jp g?oh=59bc1c801334919a08fb474e69deed5b&oe=569208B9

[Jimmy Floyd]

Did you mean to post that in the Mourinho watch thread?

:eyemouth:

He would sink badly at Chelsea. We're basically just a money-making player farm with a first team attached.

[John]

Carragher looks like he'll be reporting Henry to whoever blew the whistle on Keys and Gray.

[Giggles]

GS is right. Looking back, this should really have been straight after that Stoke game.

[niko_cee]

Most of the apparent candidates were wanting time out/having surgery or whatever at that time though, which was probably a factor.

[TG09]

It would of came at some point, i thought he was of lasted until Christmas.

[Yevrah]

GS is right. Looking back, this should really have been straight after that Stoke game.

It's only now because Klopp is presumably coming. If he isn't, then GS is bang on.

[Giggles]

It's only now because Klopp is presumably coming. If he isn't, then GS is bang on.

Does sound like he's already signed up in fairness and the delay is to make it look like he wasn't.

[Spoonsky]

What's Jurgen Klinsmann up to these days? He could be decent if Klopp isn't possible.

He would not be decent. He would be shit. Because he is shit.

[Shindig]

I'm surprised at this more than Advocaat going. They weren't in crisis. They were settling into a middling campaign of possible Europa League footy. Given how topsy-turvy life under Kenny and Roy was, that was a blessing. Plus they almost won a title. Put your prestige aside because its about the here and now and, right here and now Liverpool aren't in bother.

[Spoonsky]

I'll tell you what, today's events must be maddening for those who put money on Rodgers to be the next sacked.

[Danny]

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[QE Harold Flair]

The Advocat thing just snowballed.

[Spoonsky]

https://twitter.com/JOE_co_uk/status/650736730165899264

:D

[Danny]

Ancelotti's face makes that.

[phonics]

https://twitter.com/JOE_co_uk/status/650736730165899264

:D

These things are getting worse by the day.

[Toby]

The Brent one is brilliant, and that Wolf of Wall Street one is pretty good (although they've clearly rushed making it). That one is seriously crap though.

[Vim]

http://i.imgur.com/AopwFUQ.gif

[Andy]

Carraghers face :D

If both Ancelotti and Klopp want the job it would be tough to pick between them.

[phonics]

Think Jurgen Klopp would buy into the 'Liverpool Way' so completely that I'd want to be sick watching his press conferences.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'd love to be party to the briefing pack that a new, foreign Liverpool manager must get.

The Hillsborough Disaster - this was a terrible disaster in 1989. The 96 people who died in it are known as 'The 96', and require (non-specific) justice.

The Boot Room - this is a room in which your players gather such coaching knowledge that we will be able to replace you more cheaply in a few years' time. Sadly, due to Tory cutbacks, the Boot Room had to be closed in 1992.

The Anfield Rap - please do not, repeat DO NOT attempt to discover what this is, especially if you are German.

King Kenny - the best player in football history, King Kenny is also available for help with any moral or philosophical challenges you may have.

You'll Never Walk Alone - despite being the worst piece of music ever composed, a knowledge of and ability to sing this dirge at all times is a vital part of your job. Please learn the words and if any particularly sentimental moments occur - there should be at least 12 a day - consider leading a chorus of it yourself.

[Baz]

Don't forget you get a free 3-year supply of black arm bands. :rolleyes:

[niko_cee]

Klopp or Ancelotti is the kind of diametrically opposed choice that bespeaks of not really having any idea what you want.

I can't really believe Carlo would be interested, mind.

[SvN]

Either of them would be a very good appointment.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, but Klopp is a young (ish) philosophy man who will want to change everything with the upside that he could create a lasting legacy (Rodgers Mk II), whereas Ancelotti is a wizened old hand who will make the best of what he has, but probably won't stick around forever or buy into the yank moneyball methodology.

I think Ancelotti would be the more interesting appointment, but Klopp the more likely.

[Vim]

Surely Liverpool already have agreed a deal with someone before sacking Rodgers right?

If they didn't ... :D

[Giggles]

Football Weekly seemed to think that Klopp taking this would rule him out of taking over Bayern when Pep goes. Why exactly? Unless he has a 'mare then surely they can just buy him out if they want him.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He'd last about three seconds at Bayern. There's so much politics and all sorts of other shit there. Even Pep has fallen foul of it at times and he wins every game.

[Mellberg]

I prefer it when the big names aren't available and they end up with Hodgson.

[niko_cee]

Isn't Mark Warburton 3rd favourite or something?

[Giggles]

I prefer it when the big names aren't available and they end up with Hodgson.

The could only hope for ENGLAND MANAGER Hodgson.

[Reg]

Ancelotti's workplaces:

Turin
Milan
London
Paris
Madrid

I'm not sure Liverpool fits the mould.

[John Arne]

F.C. Tokyo will probably have him.

[Vim]

Ancelotti has no reason to go to Liverpool the way I see it. No offence to Liverpool fans, but I think Carletto prefers to go somewhere where he can challenge for the league title and, more importantly, compete in the Champions League.

[Boydy]

Ancelotti has no reason to go to Liverpool the way I see it. No offence to Liverpool fans, but I think Carletto prefers to go somewhere where he can challenge for the league title and, more importantly, compete in the Champions League.

I don't think anyone would take offence. I'm surprised he's even being linked with. I'm surprised Klopp is interested too since he could probably go to better teams.

[Yevrah]

Klopp I can see happening, whereas Ancelotti? Not a chance.

[Magic]

Ancelotti's workplaces:

Turin
Milan
London
Paris
Madrid

I'm not sure Liverpool fits the mould.

#cityofculture

[Boydy]

Klopp I can see happening, whereas Ancelotti? Not a chance.

Yeah, I can see Klopp happening but it still doesn't make that much sense. He should be aiming higher.

[Max Power]

Surely this is exactly the sort of job Klopp was waiting for? Big club down on its luck. Just like Dortmund was when he took over.

Id be staggered if he doesn't take it.

[Magic]

Surely this is exactly the sort of job Klopp was waiting for? Big club down on its luck.

:harold:

[TG09]

Surely this is exactly the sort of job Klopp was waiting for? Big club down on its luck. Just like Dortmund was when he took over.

Id be staggered if he doesn't take it.

It was always going to a job for Klopp a perfect team to fix up and make in it a top 4 team. They have the players but havent managed to find the right manager, a bit like Arsenal. :angel:

[niko_cee]

Turin always struck me as a bit of a shithole.

Milan is nothing but, if you've ever been there.

[Vim]

They're Italian cities, obviously they are shitholes. I'd say they are some of the least shithole-y cities.

[TG09]

Apparently "Klopp has already agreed a three-year deal and will bring Zeljko Buvac, his assistant at Dortmund, with him."

[GS]

Klopp would be a great appointment. He actually has some credibility.

[Yevrah]

It's a cracking coup if they pull it off, no doubt about that.

[GS]

It would seem to demonstrate that we clearly had this in mind before we sacked him, which makes it understandable. Perhaps he was approached in the summer and indicated he didn't want it just then.

I'm speculating, of course, but Klopp would be a solid outcome from the last year and a bit of shite.

Let's just hope no fucker teaches him the word "character" in English. Never again.

[Yevrah]

They'll have sounded him out surely, they'd have been mad not to.

[Lee]

His philosophy with Dortmund is pretty much what Rodgers was trying to emulate, was it not? Don't get me wrong, I think he's going to be a great appointment, but one of the issues Rodgers had is that the players brought in just weren't going to cut it playing that sort of football. He isn't going to fix it overnight on that basis. At least he's a more inspiring figure for the players though.

I'm surprised he's going for the transfer committee model. I don't mind it in theory. It has worked well for other clubs, notably Lyon when they were bumming everybody in France. But I thought a 'character' like Klopp would want more influence. What input does the manager get into the committee? Presumably he can at least tell them he needs a player with attributes x, y and z as opposed to having players foisted on him solely because they have resale value.

[Yevrah]

He might well have signed on the basis that he gets that influence, in fact, I suspect he has.

[GS]

Rodgers was trying, but returning to 3 at the back this season was the evidence that he'd run out of ideas. There was nothing new, just the same crap over and over and the same press conferences over and over.

We were going nowhere any time soon. It's quite unfortunate in that 13/14 was a special season, but his record before getting the job indicated he shouldn't have got it in the first place and his record - three and a half years in - supports that view.

[Yevrah]

Who should have been appointed to manage a club that finished 8th?

Were it not for the rivalry issue, David Moyes wouldn't have looked out of place there, and I mean that genuinely.

[Reg]

I'd say seventh, second, sixth indicates that he was about right.

Whereas Klopp would be a coup, like Yev says, considering any club in the world would presumably take him at some point.

[GS]

Who should have been appointed to manage a club that finished 8th?

Were it not for the rivalry issue, David Motes wouldn't have looked out of place there, and I mean that genuinely.

It's hard to know, really. I agree options were limited, but he was the manager of Swansea City with one BPLSBB season behind him.

[Yevrah]

I still think overall that he did a good job.

The issue I've had with people being given TIME before is that they've done nothing to earn it, Rodgers did.

[Giggles]

It's hard to know, really. I agree options were limited, but he was the manager of Swansea City with one BPLSBB season behind him.

Who else was in the frame that time or was he the main obvious contender? I can't remember back.

[Yevrah]

Roberto Martinez and Paul Lambert, IIRC.

[Gray Fox]

It was all set to be Bobby Martinez before Rodgers opened up after first refusing.

[Luke Emia]

So if Klopp comes this will be the best managerial appointment since Benitez in 2004 in terms of stature within the game. If he's shit we may as well turn the lights off. Because we won't get anyone of that standing again I wouldn't imagine.

[Yevrah]

I love how these stories are being released piecemeal in an effort to make it appear as though it wasn't a done deal last week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34448282

[Luke Emia]

I still think overall that he did a good job.

The issue I've had with people being given TIME before is that they've done nothing to earn it, Rodgers did.


He had a good season but he has now had 45 games of crap. 19 points from the last 16 league games and one win in nine. I thought he might get till Christmas but I think the tail end of last season effectively finished him. I'm not sure he deserved too much more time.

[Gray Fox]

We have to appear to have not already signed him up to avoid a constructive dismissal claim. Even though it was widely suggested as a done deal on Saturday.

[Yevrah]

If he didn't deserve much more time then Moyes should have been sacked by Man Utd in 2009.

[Yevrah]

We have to appear to have not already signed him up to avoid a constructive dismissal claim

Yep, it's laughable.

How much did Rodgers get as a pay off? If it was the rest of his contract then is there even an issue with that?

[Luke Emia]

Moyes deserved to be binned in my opinion I'd have loved him to stay to finish the job unfortunately it wasn't to be.

[Gray Fox]

Yep, it's laughable.

How much did Rodgers get as a pay off? If it was the rest of his contract then is there even an issue with that?

He only renewed in May 2014 for 4 years, so I'd imagine it's quite a healthy pay out.

[Yevrah]

Moyes deserved to be binned in my opinion I'd have loved him to stay to finish the job unfortunately it wasn't to be.

Unsurprisingly you won't find any disagreement from me - he was useless.

[Andy]

Rodgers got 7 million.

[Yevrah]

Rodgers got 7 million.

If that's the case that sounds like the remainder of his contract was paid off, so how can Liverpool be done for constructive dismissal.

Oh and lol.

[Gray Fox]

7 million? :serious:

[Lee]

I want £7 million, for fuck's sake. I could easily wear a suit and go about acting like a dickhead.

[Disco]

If that's the case that sounds like the remainder of his contract was paid off, so how can Liverpool be done for constructive dismissal.

Oh and lol.

Depends what was in his contract, there could be any number of 'not talking to other parties' clauses that may have incurred damages.

[Andy]

Was really hoping he'd last for a couple more leagues games so we could beat Liverpool at Anfield and be the final nail in the coffin.

http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-they-have-a-choice-as-a-club-they-don-t-have-to-sell-maybe-southampton-s-objectives-brendan-rodgers-82-86-67.jpg

Probably my favourite Rodgers moment, such a tit.

[Yevrah]

It's at times like these I lose almost all sympathy I had for recently sacked managers.

[niko_cee]

As a corollary to the 90% of money spent of transfers is a waste hypothesis, I imagine 90% of managers who sign a contract extension are biffed within a year or so.

[Yevrah]

Was really hoping he'd last for a couple more leagues games so we could beat Liverpool at Anfield and be the final nail in the coffin.

http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-they-have-a-choice-as-a-club-they-don-t-have-to-sell-maybe-southampton-s-objectives-brendan-rodgers-82-86-67.jpg

Probably my favourite Rodgers moment, such a tit.

Presumably made all the sweeter by the amounts you got for the sub-par crap you sold them?

[Gray Fox]

Roy Hodgson got paid £7.3m when we sacked him. £14m on two managers ffs.

[niko_cee]

Admittedly, the one time Lovren ever looked good, our Jurgen from Germany was on the touchline.

[niko_cee]

Roy Hodgson got paid £7.3m when we sacked him. £14m on two managers ffs.

Aye. Could have had another Origi for that.

[Andy]

Presumably made all the sweeter by the amounts you got for the sub-par crap you sold them?

Indeed. Lovren for 20m has to be one of the best bits of business ever from a selling club.

[Reg]

Aye. Could have had another Origi for that.
Exactly. It's nothing really. Think how much goes on player wages in a month.

[Magic]

The seethe when Klopp flops. :drool:

[Dquincy]

I like you, but stop using that fucking word! Everyone!!!!!!!!!!

[Jimmy Floyd]

The Sun will enjoy that.

KOP CHOP FOR FLOP KLOPP

[Yevrah]

The delusion in the first chap in this link.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34447865

When he says "if not" and you think what follows is going to involve a trip back to realism. :drool:

[Spoonsky]

I've had a feeling that it would be Klopp. It seems like such an odd time to sack Rodgers unless there was an external factor to explain it, such as Klopp suddenly getting on board. If he does come then it's a pretty great swap (and also seems somewhat unprecedented; how many other teams have replaced a manager midseason and immediately signed a much better one?).

[Ian]

What comes after the "if not" in the BBC clip? Can't watch while I'm at work and I'm bound to forget.


I like you, but stop using that fucking word! Everyone!!!!!!!!!!

Mate, you're... on the ropes.

[Benny]

https://aertv.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/10/br-2089511.jpg

He had loads of them, but I think this one is my favourite.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I have some old Chelsea programmes at home and I was looking at one a while back, only to be accosted suddenly by a somewhat younger and fatter Brendan Rodgers staring out from the reserves page. 'This group are exceptional', he says, and it is hard to argue with what Filipe Morais has gone on to achieve in football.

[Giggles]

He even had a fair bit more heft when taking the Liverpool job. The younger model wouldn't be long knocking it off you though.

[GS]

I think the Brentisms made it impossible to take him seriously, in the end. No-one gives a fuck if you're nearly winning the league, but it becomes a bit of a problem when you're churning out shite month after month.

[Ian]

Just reading some 'Brentisms.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3260277/Brendan-Rodgers-20-quotes-Welsh-Xavi-football-death-former-Liverpool-FC-manager-s-best-lines.html

'It was a perfect away performance, apart from the first 10 minutes.' ~ After a 2-0 defeat by Zenit St Petersburg, in which both goals came in the second half

What a man.

[GS]

He really is a mug.

[Max Power]

There goes Brendan Rodgers, I must remember to thank him.

[phonics]

8 - 'It was a perfect away performance, apart from the first 10 minutes.' ~ After a 2-0 defeat by Zenit St Petersburg, in which both goals came in the second half

I'd missed that one :D

[Dquincy]

What a load of bollocks, i bet you've all made retarded comments in the past. The only difference is no one is recording them.

[Giggles]

Exactly, he knew people were recording him which is worse.
Though I don't think he's an idiot, I just think his ego is that enormous that he thought no matter what he said was gospel.

[John]

A good time to bring one of the best things the internet has produced back up.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/quiz/2013/apr/02/brendan-rodgers-david-brent-quotes-quiz

[Spoonsky]

I do like the one about building an airplane, I reckon it's quite accurate.

[Reg]

Me too. I guess Rodgers spews so much shit that very occasionally something quite intelligent happens to come out.

[The Merse]

A good time to bring one of the best things the internet has produced back up.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/quiz/2013/apr/02/brendan-rodgers-david-brent-quotes-quiz

8/10

The mentors one was surprising.

[Reg]

On a similar note:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/quiz/2015/may/28/jurgen-klopp-quotes-football-quiz

[Reg]

Two posts in a row but this is good...

http://www.theguardian.com/football/picture/2015/oct/07/david-squires-on-liverpool-sacking-brendan-rodgers

[Giggles]

I was very critical of him at times because I think he used to talk too much and promise too much. He had this business talk or business speak, rather than football talk.

At times he was like the fella who you'd ask the time and he'd tell you how to build a clock.

Johnny Giles :cool:

[Dquincy]

Well done Brendan. :happycry:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-3462128/Brendan-Rodgers-gets-one-knee-Times-Square-former-Liverpool-manager-proposes-girlfriend-Charlotte-Searle.html

[Baz]

Fat Sue will be crying into her pancakes.

[Kikó]

What a massive knob.

[Lewis]

Has it been long enough to say that this was a mistake? Sacking him, that is. Not divorcing 'Fat Sue' and making a gimp of himself.

[Dquincy]

I miss Brendan as Liverpool manager. :(

Great move with the Times Square proposal. Classic Brendan.

[Boydy]

What a jebend.

[Boydy]

Has it been long enough to say that this was a mistake? Sacking him, that is. Not divorcing 'Fat Sue' and making a gimp of himself.

Why would it have been a mistake?

[Kikó]

Klopp is a superior manager and I have a table to post late July for you all.

[Lewis]

Why would it have been a mistake?

Because 'Brendan' is a good manager who definitely deserved TIME.

[Reg]

Why the jibes?

[GS]

We got Klopp, who is better, so it's fine. It would have been stupid to sack him if we'd appointed CARRA LAD instead, but we didn't.

[Lewis]

Has he actually been doing better? It seems that he's getting the same out of the bollocks squad.

[GS]

He hasn't really, but in the medium-term you'd be far more confident of JURGEN doing a lot better than BRENDAN.

The latter had one good 18 month spell when Suarez went absolutely mental and 'Stuzza' wasn't broken.

Plus Klopp doesn't talk like a cheap motivational speaker and abuse words like "outstanding" and "group" after we've just stormed to an insipid 1-0 loss away from home.

[Max Power]

Yeah and remember the time he lost his glasses and made a joke that was good

[GS]

Listen, Max, mate, subject yourself to Brendan Rodgers interviews over the course of three plus years and you'd be advocating his sacking regardless of what he was winning.

[Reg]

Klopp will get by on his likeability and Dortmund career for a good while yet, even if it continues in average fashion. But I reckon he'll get top four each year after this season's finished.

[Lewis]

At whose expense?

[Max Power]

Listen, Max, mate, subject yourself to Brendan Rodgers interviews over the course of three plus years and you'd be advocating his sacking regardless of what he was winning.

Yeah but when he flashes that bright white smile how can you resist?

Nah I rate Klopp. Bringing him in for Brent is a no brainer. But it is interesting the free ride Klopp has had so far, I know it's 'not his team' and it's early but Liverpool have served up some absolute dross in recent months and I can't remember a word against him.

Maybe the pressure will crank up next year becuase the top four will be harder to break into. Chelsea and United will no doubt be better, City have Pep and Leicester City aren't leaving the top three anytime in the next decade.

[GS]

We have been shite in some of our games e.g. Newcastle, Watford, West Ham. Still, we've trounced City, Chelsea, Southampton and Villa away from home, and we've been getting by with Firmino up front because 'Stuzza' is broken and Benteke is shit.

I'll give him at least a full season before rushing in to stick the boot in, but it was, as you say, a no brainer to sack Brent and appoint Klopp - and we presumably had the foresight to agree things with him before we got on with sacking the former.

[Reg]

At whose expense?
Not sure yet, kind of hard to judge with this mental season going on. I just reckon he'll make them a good enough team to reach the top four in any average season. (Surely they're going to invest a decent amount, otherwise he wouldn't have taken it.)

[GS]

We've already signed some lad on a free, so that's next season's scapegoat sorted.

[Raoul Duke]

Can't be worse than Kolo & Sakho's Comedy Roadshow.

[Spoonsky]

Has he actually been doing better? It seems that he's getting the same out of the bollocks squad.

Yeah, but it was Rodgers who built that bollocks squad.

[John Arne]

Yeah, and Klopp has been here 5 minutes.

[ScousePig]

Just wanted to POST SOME CAPITAL LETTERS in this thread.

[John Arne]

Great characters.

[Byron]

I think that post does indeed have some great characters and I'd expect it to keep fighting and bounce back next week.

[Kikó]

The group are in great shape and the boys are looking forward to rolling up their sleeves and putting in the shift. At the end of the day, they're a great bunch fighting hand and nail for the shirt.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'd have supported Brendan having a crack at Chelsea. Great entertainment, it would be.

[Lewis]

Yeah, but it was Rodgers who built that bollocks squad.

The working of the Transfer Committee is still a mystery, so how fair is to blame/praise him for anybody? Let's see which six average players get bought in the summer.

[John Arne]

Every club has a transfer committee, I'd be surprised if any other club is different to anybody else: manager, scouts, analysts, bean counters.

[Reg]

Well there're lots of differences between clubs but you're right that the whole committee thing was overstated.

Real Madrid's president for instance will decide he wants a player and buy him without consulting the coach. That doesn't happen at say, Tottenham.

[John Arne]

Yeah, that's fair. I'm sure there degrees of difference at each club - with an underlying principle.

[Lewis]

He all but admitted that the owners forced Mario Balotelli on him ('They were thinking this is a £50m player we could maybe get for £16m' lol), which probably doesn't happen at their supposed rivals.

[John]

When the Real Madrid chairman decides he wants someone he bestows Gareth Bale or James Rodriguez upon the coach, though. At Liverpool it's Mario Balotelli.

[Reg]

And makes them sell their best players from the previous season, who the coach may prefer.

[John]

Is that a reference to Di Maria? It isn't often Real Madrid sell their best players, and Di Maria was being rumoured for sale basically from the minute he turned up there.

[Reg]

In that season they sold di Maria, Morata, Alonso. In the previous season they sold Ozil and Higuain. And don't forget the famous Makelele example.

What they do is very different from other clubs, which was all I was saying.