The New Years diet fred (No Tims allowed)

[Offshore Toon]

Yeah, true. You're on the right path and seems like you've got things under control. Everybody needs a little escape now and then.

I'm considering knocking everything on the head even though it doesn't happen often. It messes with my sleeping routine far too much and takes a week to two weeks to sort itself.

[Adamski]

That would kill me. I still have the odd blowout but nowhere near as much and I'm back to normal by the Tuesday.

[summsuccess]

Is everyone former druggies on here or something?

[summsuccess]

But Mr Garrison said they are bad mmkay?

[Offshore Toon]

That would kill me. I still have the odd blowout but nowhere near as much and I'm back to normal by the Tuesday.
Yeah, I've realised recently that pills/mandy/coke are all pointless for me and they're the ones that effect my sleep the most too. Pills/mandy just don't do what they used to and the comedowns are worse, so I've avoided them for a while. Coke is expensive and rarely worth it. I'm still a fan of psychedelics and ket, though. I want to try MXE this summer.

Is everyone former druggies on here or something?
I still dabble. Better than alcohol tbh.

[summsuccess]

You have one body. Use it or abuse it.
I prefer to use it because I dont want to lose it.
Surprised you have weight issues taking all that though, do you binge eat Offshore?

[Offshore Toon]

Taking drugs once a month isn't going to keep you skinny.

[summsuccess]

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder460/250x250/31914460/helen-lovejoy-wont-somebody-please-think-of-the-children.jpg

[Offshore Toon]

None of my shirts fit me anymore. #success

[Spikey M]

What kind of student (other than Asians) wears a shirt anyway?

[Offshore Toon]

Going out tonight for a few drinks and its Eurovision so I've got to make some effort.

[Offshore Toon]

I'm at a good stage. There are clothes that I was aiming to fit in that I now fit in, as well as most of my wardrobe being too big for me now. When I weighed myself a couple of weeks ago at my mate's I was 16 stone (102kg), but also full of food and drink. I then decided I'd lose half a stone in the two weeks before I'd be going back at my mate's and able to weigh myself again, and I reckon I've achieved that, or I'm well on my way to achieving that. I've been doing around 2,000 to 2,500 calories worth of exercise for the past week, plus still dropping weight before that too. I'm going to take things easier now since my body is battered.

From here (15.5 stone/98.5kg) I reckon there's still a stone to lose. I won't be drinking much at Glastonbury, so should lose a few pounds there, and then I can hammer the exercise again until I find work. I've got a festival in Belgium mid-July too which will also aid weight loss. I don't want to get too far ahead of myself, but I imagine by September I'll be in a position to start a bulk.

[Henry]

What exercise are you doing? I thought you'd packed in the running.

[Offshore Toon]

Well, when my calf was injured I got back into weightlifting. Then a couple of weeks ago I eased myself back into cardio with the cross trainer at the gym, then started walking. I haven't pushed myself with running, but I've been fine so far just running in spurts and mostly walking. Glastonbury is on Tuesday so the last thing I want is another injury, plus its probably better to practice being on my feet for 3/4 hours.

Also, I said earlier in this thread that weightlifting on keto is horrible, but since I started again a few weeks ago its been piss easy. I won't keep it up once I've dropped to a healthy body fat percentage, but I would definitely recommend keto for weight loss.

[Offshore Toon]

I'm not sure what weight I was. It was definitely over 17 stone at some stage in the past year. I reckon pushing on 18 somewhere along the line.

[Offshore Toon]

I'm on track and under 15 stone. I think there's probably still a stone to go, but I seem to think that at every weight I'm at. I've never been under 14.5-15 stone (can't remember, but think it was 14.5) in adult life, so it's hard to predict. The current goal is 14.5 stone by next Wednesday, then I'll be at a festival in Belgium so should lose some more before stuffing my face around graduation.

[Offshore Toon]

Think I ended up putting on some weight since my last post (after losing a bit), but I'm back in Brighton and going to at least half a stone in two weeks.

[Offshore Toon]

Nice. How much left to go?

[Adamski]

I'm at 18lbs down since the start of May. Just enlisted a PT to start ramping up the training. First session was today.

[Offshore Toon]

This thread appears to have been a roaring success then. My mum commented that "this is the skinniest I've seen you" last week. I don't think she's correct on that, but its certainly the slimmest I've been since about 21.

[Boydy]

I weighed myself this morning and I'm the heaviest I've ever been. Not surprised. I've been eating shite recently and I could feel it in my clothes.

Gonna start following the slimming world diet seriously as people in my work rave about it and it seems to work for them. Not joining it though, fuck that.

[Offshore Toon]

I suppose not eating for two days a week means you eat less during the five days? I'm getting back into keto and very, very long runs/walks plus a bit of the gym when I have the energy. Ultimately I know I can drop a pound a day if I push myself. Once you accept you're going to spend 2-4 hours walking about and just let the mind wander its pretty enjoyable.

[wullie]

I've stayed roughly the same weight recently but have lost a bit of timber, I'm at the point where I can take my jeans off easily without undoing them first (A method more scientifically accurate than BMI)

Gave up on running because I hate it and it's a load of bollocks, but now doing two boot camps a week, 90 minutes squash, one hour badminton and one hour football. If I had a job that didn't involve me sitting on my arse drinking pop I'd be a golden god right now.

[Giggles]

I weighed myself this morning and I'm the heaviest I've ever been. Not surprised. I've been eating shite recently and I could feel it in my clothes.

Gonna start following the slimming world diet seriously as people in my work rave about it and it seems to work for them. Not joining it though, fuck that.

It's a piece of piss.

[Boydy]

It's a piece of piss.

The SW diet? Yeah, it looks quite good and it seems to work.

[Giggles]

I did a huge pile in a relatively short time before. The job has me fucked now so I can't do it any more but you get to eat shit loads on it.

[Boydy]

Yeah, and carbs. :drool:

What do you mean the job has you fucked so you can't do it any more?

[Giggles]

Yeah, and carbs. :drool:

What do you mean the job has you fucked so you can't do it any more?

I'm on the road and have no will power when I see nice things in petrol stations. When I did it before we hadn't even a canteen in work so I cooked and brought it with me to reheat later.

[John]

I'm on the road and have no will power when I see nice things in petrol stations.

How is that an issue, unless you have a Ginsters fetish?

[Giggles]

How is that an issue, unless you have a Ginsters fetish?

A what fetish? I've a fetish for nice things on hot counters when I smell it. And no will power, which I already stated.

[Offshore Toon]

Its not that you have no will power, just that you don't want it enough. You're getting married so its not surprising you gave up. I plan on doing the same.

[Giggles]

Its not that you have no will power, just that you don't want it enough. You're getting married so its not surprising you gave up. I plan on doing the same.

I got married, but I gave up long before that. I just haven't the situation I can control when I'm working any more.

[Adamski]

I weighed myself this morning and I'm the heaviest I've ever been. Not surprised. I've been eating shite recently and I could feel it in my clothes.

Gonna start following the slimming world diet seriously as people in my work rave about it and it seems to work for them. Not joining it though, fuck that.

+1 on the piece of piss.

As long as you don't rip the cunt with the carbs it's easy. I put everything into my fitness pal as well as a double check, if you're smashing 10 baked potatoes a day then you're fucked.

Quite good you get syns so if you feel like a bag of crisps then you can do with no fucks given.

[Giggles]

I'd initially used the syns on junk but after a while I found it better to use my allowance a day on oil so I didn't have to use that frylight shite. Made it much easier for me.

Though if I was batch cooking curries then it was even better as two tablespoons of oil was under a days allowance but it would fry enough onions and spices for 8 curries.

[Boydy]

Weighed myself this morning (same time as last week, first thing Monday morning). Scales say I'm down 6 lbs. That can't be right, can it?

[Offshore Toon]

Could just be water weight and less food being in you. I've eaten so shit this past week and a half, though I've been doing plenty of exercise. A low calorie diet feels impossible right now for some reason.

[Offshore Toon]

I've lost all motivation to eat well. Still exercising a lot so not packing weight on, but ultimately it's not ideal for getting rid of the last bit of fat. I've tried getting back into keto but ended up carb loading. I might go back to basics again and just cut out sugar for now.

[Adamski]

I'm at 18lbs down since the start of May. Just enlisted a PT to start ramping up the training. First session was today.

8lbs down in the 4 weeks with a PT.

0.5inch increase on arms
1inch down chest
2 inches down waist

Enjoying the training as well, probably going to keep using the guy till Christmas and see where I'm at.

[Offshore Toon]

I'm all over the place. I'm hoping the routine that comes with working will help to stabilise my diet.

[Adamski]

Another 3lbs down takes me over the 2 stone barrier.

Half an inch off my waist as well.

Dominos last night to celebrate :cool:

Using this PT has really opened my eyes to weight loss.

I'm eating 1800 calories a day however I'm able to incorporate some treats like crisps and chocolate in to that and as long as I'm around 1800 calories the weight will still come off. Having two cheat meals a week as well.

It's quite eye opening when you learn that calories intake is the sole factor in weight loss and nothing else really matters.

You could eat 5 Krispy Kreme donuts per day and still lose weight as it's within the 1800. Obviously you'd feel like shit so moderation is the key but it's an interesting way to think about it.

This is pretty good:

http://qklnk.co/pPB4Sp

[SvN]

I'm a right state at the moment. I've basically eaten and drank the entire summer because my wife has been on school holidays. I feel like a fat mess. I'll be going at this hardcore after next weekend.

[Giggles]

I've dropped 2 inches off the waist since I did this yeast shit (well a 2" size down, as opposed to a real 2"). Never weighed myself though.

[Boydy]

After the first week's loss of 6lb, I was steadily going down a lb a week for about four weeks there. But I weighed myself yesterday and I'd stayed the same as last week. Annoying but I did eat some crap last week so not too bad.

I probably need to get some exercise but it's nearly all boring and/or the weather here is complete shit.

[Mazuuurk]

Another 3lbs down takes me over the 2 stone barrier.

Half an inch off my waist as well.

Dominos last night to celebrate :cool:

Using this PT has really opened my eyes to weight loss.

I'm eating 1800 calories a day however I'm able to incorporate some treats like crisps and chocolate in to that and as long as I'm around 1800 calories the weight will still come off. Having two cheat meals a week as well.

It's quite eye opening when you learn that calories intake is the sole factor in weight loss and nothing else really matters.

You could eat 5 Krispy Kreme donuts per day and still lose weight as it's within the 1800. Obviously you'd feel like shit so moderation is the key but it's an interesting way to think about it.

This is pretty good:

http://qklnk.co/pPB4Sp

Yeah. It depends a bit on how you train, mind you. A lot of heavy weightlifting etc and you'll need to get some more Protein in, which in turn will be calories, if you aim to build muscle (or at least maintain it, lest you lose muscle mass as well as fat).

But in general it's like you say.

1800 sounds little if you are also doing exercise. I try to work out about 5 times a week, maybe 6 sometimes, and I will probably average about 1800-2400 calories intake on a weekday (dispensing 400-600 on exercise), and easily 4000 on a saturday or sunday (alcohol is usually half of that).

[Giggles]

I don't get some of the pictures in that link. How are the two salads the same size and ingredients so far apart?

I've averaged 1613, 1417, 1724 a day for the past few weeks.

[SvN]

My assumption was the dressing being different.

[Giggles]

There was a book came out years ago called the Food Doctor Diet that did all those pictures like that.

[Reg]

It's quite eye opening when you learn that calories intake is the sole factor in weight loss and nothing else really matters.

You could eat 5 Krispy Kreme donuts per day and still lose weight as it's within the 1800. Obviously you'd feel like shit so moderation is the key but it's an interesting way to think about it.
There's a lot more to it than that dude.

http://www.healthline.com/nutrition/debunking-the-calorie-myth#section1
http://www.flnutrition.co.uk/the-calorie-myth-why-counting-calories-is-an-outdated-and-ignorant-theory-for-weight-loss/
https://www.prevention.com/weight-loss/weight-loss-tips/5-reasons-to-never-count-another-calorie?amp

Foods affect you in really different ways. It's better to eat healthy foods that work well for you than worry about calorie counting.

There's a good book called "The Metabolic Typing Diet" which I recommend.

[Boydy]

This is what I fucking hate about nutrition. So much stuff coming from all sides. Ugh.

[phonics]

As someone who worked for a company that sold enzymes to farmers to inject into their chickens I can say that nutritional science is complete bollocks. The amount of money we paid to these people to sell our shit.

[Adamski]

There's a lot more to it than that dude.

http://www.healthline.com/nutrition/debunking-the-calorie-myth#section1
http://www.flnutrition.co.uk/the-calorie-myth-why-counting-calories-is-an-outdated-and-ignorant-theory-for-weight-loss/
https://www.prevention.com/weight-loss/weight-loss-tips/5-reasons-to-never-count-another-calorie?amp

Foods affect you in really different ways. It's better to eat healthy foods that work well for you than worry about calorie counting.

There's a good book called "The Metabolic Typing Diet" which I recommend.

For weight loss it doesn't really matter. Calories are calories. Eat less calories than you expend and you lose weight.

My PT is a qualified nutritionist.

Will obviously be different for adding lean muscle and increasing weight but I'm not at that stage yet.

Should also caveat this by saying that obviously a healthy diet staying within calories is important however it's good to know that you can have the odd treat here and there and not be tempted to think you've fucked your diet and its game over.

At an estimate I would say I'm eating 3 meals a day and 2 snacks, so 35 'meals a week' and it's healthy for 30 or so. I have 1-2 cheat meals a week and a bag of crisps/dark chocolate every other day which does the job for keeping me motivated to keep going.

Best advice I got was not reaching the 'fuck it' stage after you have a bad meal and continuing it for the next two days. Enjoy the cheat meal and get back on the wagon and go again.

[Offshore Toon]

Isn't 'nutritionist' the poundworld version of a 'dietitian'? I'm sure I've read that only the latter has a meaningful qualification. Anyway, he's not wrong. You need to get calories in check, but eating 'healthier' makes it a lot easier to eat less.

I'm feeling very motivated at the moment and I've given myself a four week target, which I'm four days into and all is going as planned. I should drop a stone minimum. Should things continue as planned I'll be able to start bulking come September 25th.

[Offshore Toon]

"The title "dietitian" is protected by law. This means you are not allowed to call yourself a dietitian unless you are properly qualified and registered with the HCPC.

...

The title of nutritionists is not protected by law, meaning that anyone can advertise their services as a nutritionist. So it is important to find a nutritionist who is appropriately qualified and registered by a trustworthy professional body."

[Giggles]

Everything is good and everything is bad. It just depends on which mong you're reading on a particular week.

[Offshore Toon]

Pretty much, yeah. Just go with what you're feeling. Sometimes it's two 18" pizzas, sometimes it's an avocado.

[Lewis]

Those 'articles' don't really dispute the basic premise. They just add stuff about hormones (not as important), subjective lifestyle bollocks, and advise against starving yourself (well in lads). Eat five-thousand calories of 'healthy foods that work well for you' and see what happens.

[Reg]

Those 'articles' don't really dispute the basic premise. They just add stuff about hormones (not as important), subjective lifestyle bollocks, and advise against starving yourself (well in lads). Eat five-thousand calories of 'healthy foods that work well for you' and see what happens.
I've not said that calories have no part to play at all, so the last sentence is irrelevant. My point is that it's a flawed notion that calories are the one and only key to weight loss.

[Lewis]

You said 'There's a lot more to it', and that 'It's better to eat healthy foods that work well for you than worry about calorie counting'. However things 'work for you' in lifestyle terms you still have to take in less energy than you use, which necessitates calorie counting.

[Reg]

Again, I'm not saying calories don't matter at all.

[Adamski]

I've not said that calories have no part to play at all, so the last sentence is irrelevant. My point is that it's a flawed notion that calories are the one and only key to weight loss.

They're the deciding factor though, which was my point.

If I eat 1800 calories of donuts I'll still lose weight, as I've expended a lot more than that. I'll feel shit and it won't be good for me but I'll still lose it.

As Lewis infers, if I ate 3000 calories of lettuce I'd probably feel quite good, but I wouldn't lose any weight as I don't expend 3000 per day.

Balance is the key, but within certain calorie limits.

[Boydy]

I don't think you'd feel very good if you ate 3000 calories a day of lettuce.

[Giggles]

You'd be fucking suicidal for a start.

[Adamski]

I don't think you'd feel very good if you ate 3000 calories a day of lettuce.

It was an example :D

[Offshore Toon]

It would actually be really hard to eat 3,000 calories of raw veg. You can eat a bag of spinach for like 25 calories. It's a good snack if you feel the urge to binge.

[Boydy]

It was an example :D

I know.

[Boydy]

Down 2lbs this week. :)

[Mazuuurk]

I just came out starving from the gym and ordered an Extra large Falafel "salad". It must have had about 1000 calories in it but I fucking plowed through it all :moop:

[Spikey M]

We go away at the end of the month so I'm back on the diet wagon. Probably left it too late to look presentable but fuck it.

[Kikó]

I've ate cake every day. Not looking forward to weighing myself when I'm back.

[Boydy]

Been eating those Muller Light yogurts since they're 'free'. They quite a good sweet treat. Got a peanut and caramel one tonight that I hadn't seen before and thought sounded nice. It's fucking rank. Ate it about two hours ago and I still have a horrible aftertaste from it.

[Mazuuurk]

Luckily I don't have a sweet tooth so I can stay off most cakes and stuff (there's an endless stream of cake and bakeries always being served in my office).

Anything a bit buttery is a weakness though, like croissants and other sort of pastries like that. And I do like some decent Ice cream, but eat it very rarely. Fatty foods is where it's all at, chips and burgers etc. But even that I'm cutting down on quite a bit these days.


If I didn't drink beer, I'd be fucking shredded I reckon.

[Spikey M]

1kg down in 3 days.

[Adamski]

That's just over 2lbs for any non-wankers looking in.

[Adamski]

Hit 35lbs down today at my last pre-holiday personal trainer class.

Flying out tomorrow so Dominos again to celebrate tonight.

Aiming to drop another 16lbs or so by Christmas and then start building it back up.

[SvN]

Finally got the ball rolling with this. I've been at it for about 3 weeks, but I had a friend visiting this weekend so ate and drank a lot. But I'm down about 7 lbs so far. I want to lose at least another stone, perhaps a bit more depending on how I look and feel.

[igor_balis]

I've done it, lads. First time since about 2014 that I am not "overweight" according to the admittedly shit BMI measurement. With the tool's inability to take into account my Tobyesque cranium I was probably there a couple of weeks ago, but still.

[igor_balis]

From being about 14 stone in January, I was down to 11st 8 the other week. Back up to 11st 11 after a pretty indulgent week off work, but I'm still pretty chuffed.

[Giggles]

Some nice clear after photos there.

[Giggles]

Nice work, fair fucks.

[Kikó]

Good effort. How did you manage it?

[Giggles]

Oh and you get a bonus baby Ophelia pic. Instead of a fanny licker dog. So, bonus all round.

Are you mashed though?

[igor_balis]

Some nice clear after photos there.

Before:https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/18762756_10155298546431996_2066731973_n.jpg?oh=102 790bdc737119d64a812d62cfb2cc4&oe=5A360E1F


After:https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/23805591_10159578993115384_428319699_n.png?oh=e70c 83f90a0add58d78292e5ef4c24bc&oe=5A36444B

[Giggles]

That's how you do photos.

[Adamski]

8 pounds on in 12 days :cool:

Reckon I’ll lose around half of that by Friday just with water retention and a decent diet so not too bad all in.

[Giggles]

I'd say I've put on at least a stone and in not done yet, there's still shitloads in the house.

[The Merse]

Final blow out tonight ahead of weigh-in and soup diet for the next fortnight or so. I’m estimating 84kg, up from 79kg in mid-December.

[SvN]

Threw out loads of junk food today. Still got a few bits that were unopened left, but I'm fairly certain I can avoid those. The real challenge will be stopping the casual drinking every evening, which has been something I've been doing for the past couple of months. I'd estimate there's been less than 5 days since October that I haven't had a few beers.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The Koreans have certainly got into the spirit: large pizzas for everyone for lunch tomorrow, on the company.

[Samadini]

I'm in. I genuinely don't think my body could handle another year/Christmas on the scale it has been. Need to sort my life out. Been feeling like I'm about to die for most of today.

[SvN]

The other day I was sat down watching TV and realised I was wheezing. How has it come to this?

[Foe]

Do people actually physically throw out junk food so they won't eat it?

Send it my way you heathens!

[Samadini]

The other day I was sat down watching TV and realised I was wheezing. How has it come to this?

Yeah this is where I'm at. Putting on socks at the moment feels like a genuine risk to my internal organs. I've probably done some lasting damage.

Cutting out shit food should be quite easy to begin with as I can't actually stand the thought of food right now.

[Boydy]

The other day I was sat down watching TV and realised I was wheezing. How has it come to this?

:D

I noticed I was way more out of breath than I should have been after running up the stairs the other day.

[Lewis]

Yeah this is where I'm at. Putting on socks at the moment feels like a genuine risk to my internal organs. I've probably done some lasting damage.

Cutting out shit food should be quite easy to begin with as I can't actually stand the thought of food right now.

Do you ever go to that chip stall in the Norwich market?

[Samadini]

I haven't because it looks a bit shit. Is it actually decent? The Grosvenor is good, but you have to put up with that Canadian bicentennial man and you have to fucking queue.

I won't be doing a fancy pants diet here, just going to eat less, try to lower the frequency of my junk food intake and start going to the gym once I've shaken off this feeling that I've torn the left side of my abdomen. Being mega fat actually hurts.

I spent all day yesterday doing solid shits which coupled with my abdominal pain is why I thought I was going to die. Weighed myself after my 18th shit of the day and I had put on weight for fucks sake. One more shit this morning and I lost 3 pounds. Think I can probably shit my way to my target of not being morbidly obese.

[Baz]

65.3KG :flex:

[SvN]

First day went well yesterday. Didn't slip at all, nor was I particularly tempted to. The challenge will be the rest of the week - once I get into a routine, I'm fairly good at sticking to it. It's just getting into the routine that I sometimes struggle with.

I'm basically at the exact weight I was this time last year when I got back from Australia. I reckon I can easily lose a stone within the first 2-3 weeks, and from there it will start to become more of a chore.

[Lewis]

I haven't because it looks a bit shit. Is it actually decent? The Grosvenor is good, but you have to put up with that Canadian bicentennial man and you have to fucking queue.

It is, but don't be tempted by their cheese or gravy or anything. Just go for the chips.

[Samadini]

I'm in. I genuinely don't think my body could handle another year/Christmas on the scale it has been. Need to sort my life out. Been feeling like I'm about to die for most of today.

Lost almost a stone in 5 days and haven't even been to the gym. lol

My abdominal pain is basically one now (I couldn't even walk properly when it first started), so I guess I'm not dying and I'll actually be able to go to the gym next week.

[SvN]

I've lost 8 pounds so far, a lot of which will have just been water weight from the ridiculous amount of eating and drinking I was doing. I've not cut out drinking entirely, but I've limited it to drinking out rather than buying stuff for at home.

[Adamski]

http://www.halotop.com/flavors/

This stuff is a godsend :drool: 80 calories for a decent sized bowl. Pretty good if you’re watching what you’re eating.

[Lofty]

Lost nearly a stone so far just following the Slimming World diet (don’t do the group shit, she is doing it properly so it’s easier to be supportive anyway). Don’t feel any thinner or notice much in my clothes yet but I have a lot to lose so hopefully the next stone I lose will be more noticeable.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I made a bean stew last night. A fucking bean stew.

Taking drink and drugs out of the equation as they are even worse, is there some sort of remedy for the drudgery of 21st century suburban existence that can replace nice food as my vice? I really struggle with it beyond little two-week surges of willpower.

[Offshore Toon]

Just accept that you won't enjoy food for a while. Don't even try to dress things up to make them tasty. You're a robot now.

[Pepe]

Taking drink and drugs out of the equation as they are even worse, is there some sort of remedy for the drudgery of 21st century suburban existence that can replace nice food as my vice? I really struggle with it beyond little two-week surges of willpower.

Exercise. Video games. Scientology. Diy.

[Offshore Toon]

I'm in proper fat shit mode at the moment. Gradually turning things around exercise wise but I'm eating so much.

[phonics]

I've felt constantly tired and lacking the will to do anything that isn't sit on the couch and mong out recently. It's not helped by the fact that I live in a basement apartment now so I see natural light for at best an 20 minutes a day. Do those multi-vitamin tablets actually do anything or is it the worlds largest placebo?

[SvN]

Off the wagon today, had a mental day at work so treated myself to a few cans.

[Boydy]

Even after you'd given yourself that nice raise?

[SvN]

I decided that back in December, the buzz had worn off before Christmas.

[Mazuuurk]

I made a bean stew last night. A fucking bean stew.

Taking drink and drugs out of the equation as they are even worse, is there some sort of remedy for the drudgery of 21st century suburban existence that can replace nice food as my vice? I really struggle with it beyond little two-week surges of willpower.

Well for some people if they don't want to change their diets exactly, just tweaking it and eating a little less works as well. I know that sound simpler than it is.

But basically, if you're having steak and chips at home, buy a smaller steak than you would have (like maybe just 100g), cook much less chips that you would normally, and then throw in some salad or broccoli or summat to fill you up.

Get through whatever greens you've got first, and then you'll have nice food to finish off your meal (if you really hate eating beans and veggies and that stuff). It's just, you'll eat maybe 10 bites of it instead of 25 like you would normally have, or whatever (i'm making shit up).


What I did for a while, and still occasionally do, was use one of these apps where you put in what you eat and it says the calories in it. I don't recommend doing that over a long time, as you go a bit mental, but it's good for a bit to sort of get a feeling for how much some stuff contains. Nuts, for instance, are really fatty and contain shitloads of calories, yet they sort of feel quite healthy when you eat them so you might have three handfulls of peanuts casually, but that should have actually been about half your dinner.

Oils, butter, etc, are also things you start using a little less of in cooking when you realize exactly how much of the calories in food come from that.


And I mean, cook yourself. If you're not doing that, you're a bit doomed unless you exercise loads.


Also, eat a lot for breakfeast, and make sure you get a lot of eggs or some other protein for brekkie.


Anyway, that all seemed to work for me.

[Boydy]

That doesn't work. When I have nice food I want loads of it.

[Lewis]

Get some MealSquares.

[Mazuuurk]

That doesn't work. When I have nice food I want loads of it.


Yeah well, then I recommend being fat.

[Giggles]

Yeah well, then I recommend being fat.

:cool:

I made soup today. But something, an onion I think, wasn't right and it tasted funny so I got a Texas BBQ from Pizza Hut instead.

Good intentions though.

[igor_balis]

I got down to p much exactly 11 and a half stone yesterday. I've been hovering around there for ages in fairness but it's a satisfying milestone.

Celebrated by getting a dominos (i NEVER get a dominos!!) 2 for tuesday thingy for me and my mum. My : "Large 13.5" Half & Half Mighty Meaty®/Texas BBQ®" was dinner for today and yesterday though, whereas in the past i'd have had like three quarters and justified eating the rest there and then because "well 3 slices isn't going to be enough for a meal anyway".

The main thing I've really noticed about being really anal about calories etc is that you can still eat a pretty massive amount but still lose weight, you just have to not be entirely retarded/self destructive about it. If you don't drink much, ~2000-2500 calories is fucking loads.

[igor_balis]

Jimmy Floyd , what's your vice, sweet or savoury? or a bit of both?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Well for some people if they don't want to change their diets exactly, just tweaking it and eating a little less works as well. I know that sound simpler than it is.

But basically, if you're having steak and chips at home, buy a smaller steak than you would have (like maybe just 100g), cook much less chips that you would normally, and then throw in some salad or broccoli or summat to fill you up.

Get through whatever greens you've got first, and then you'll have nice food to finish off your meal (if you really hate eating beans and veggies and that stuff). It's just, you'll eat maybe 10 bites of it instead of 25 like you would normally have, or whatever (i'm making shit up).

I do all of that if I want to, for two weeks. I also like most veg/healthy foods so it's not a tribulation. But after a while I want cheese again and I want cheese more than I want healthy stuff.

Part of the problem, a week in Spain last week has reminded me, is we just don't have enough decent food available in this country. Our bread is shit and should be abolished; roast dinners are also terrible except on special occasions, but our weather is also so shit that you need to eat shit food to mentally get through it. We don't have options like fresh seafood or replacing butter with olive oil because, you know, we just don't.

How are the Swedes all tall, blond and magnificently handsome when it's dark half the year?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Jimmy Floyd , what's your vice, sweet or savoury? or a bit of both?

Savoury.

[phonics]

Because the sun shines on them twice as hard the other 6 months of the year.

[igor_balis]

Savoury.

yeah same, and it's dangerous because when you're in the mood you can just eat a huge jumbo pack of peanuts or whatever and that's 2 days calories or something

[igor_balis]

two of the most effective ways i've found to lose weight are:

-never actually have unhealthy stuff in the house by default, like in your "big shop" or whatever. if you want a treat you have to walk to the shop and buy it. it's also a false economy to say it's better value to buy multipacks or whatevz because if you have my willpower you just end up eating the multi-pack in one sitting anyway.

-try to refuse free food. only really applies if you work in a certain environment but in places where you can't go two days without some Maureen bringing in 8 cakes because it's her niece's cat's birthday or something it makes a big difference

[Jimmy Floyd]

The best strategy is just to eat a 15 inch meat feast four cheese pizza once a week, minutes before doing your big shop, and then you won't want to get anything else shit. I might try that.

[igor_balis]

The best strategy is just to eat a 15 inch meat feast four cheese pizza once a week, minutes before doing your big shop, and then you won't want to get anything else shit. I might try that.

:lol: that's not actually a terrible idea. i'd always do the opposite of that at uni - me and my flatmate would invariably make the grim trek to the big asda near us at like 8.30pm when we were really hungry and out of food, and come back with just the most disgusting shit. i think i'd almost always get through a packet of scotch eggs or something on the walk home. not hugely surprising how fat i got really when you add in the lager and takeaways.

[Pepe]

Get some MealSquares.

:nod:

[Pepe]

Learning to cook helps too. Or marrying someone who knows how to cook.

[Boydy]

two of the most effective ways i've found to lose weight are:

-never actually have unhealthy stuff in the house by default, like in your "big shop" or whatever. if you want a treat you have to walk to the shop and buy it. it's also a false economy to say it's better value to buy multipacks or whatevz because if you have my willpower you just end up eating the multi-pack in one sitting anyway.

-try to refuse free food. only really applies if you work in a certain environment but in places where you can't go two days without some Maureen bringing in 8 cakes because it's her niece's cat's birthday or something it makes a big difference

I eat so much shit at home because my parents always have crap in the house. And at work because people always bring shit in and I get bored there easily. When I'm left to myself though I can eat reasonably healthily.

[Pepe]

With that said, I'm probably like 10 lbs over my 'cycling weight' right now, since I've been off the bike for two months. Really need to get back to it.

[Mazuuurk]

I do all of that if I want to, for two weeks. I also like most veg/healthy foods so it's not a tribulation. But after a while I want cheese again and I want cheese more than I want healthy stuff.

Part of the problem, a week in Spain last week has reminded me, is we just don't have enough decent food available in this country. Our bread is shit and should be abolished; roast dinners are also terrible except on special occasions, but our weather is also so shit that you need to eat shit food to mentally get through it. We don't have options like fresh seafood or replacing butter with olive oil because, you know, we just don't.

How are the Swedes all tall, blond and magnificently handsome when it's dark half the year?


How about you try that thing Multi did (I think) at some point - one meal diet thing? The idea being you can only have one meal a day and it can be whatever the fuck you want and enormous.

Now, I don't really advocate that, as I think it fucks your metabolism and it's not sustainable if you have a job, more or less, but you could do some sort of variety where you basically have something sturdy but healthy for breakfeast, a very light lunch every day of maybe 400-500 calories - that basically sets you up for being able to eat a little whatever you want for dinner (you know, within reason).

But it's all about what works for you as well because while you do have the liberty to eat more, you still can't have 1800 calories every night and get away with it. It might also be that you are one of those people who can't deal with being a bit hungry, and then you should probably try some sort of 5-snacks-a-day setup (don't eat so much fruit though it's full of sugar).


As for Oil & Butter, they are much the same in terms of energy really. Olive oil is "healthier" fat but it still makes you fat (there's a reason Greece is like the fattest country in Europe). I've seen people drench sallads in Olive oil under some sort of delusion that it's really healthy because Jamie Oliver or someone said it's better than butter. One tablespoon of it is maybe 120 calories which usually is more than the rest of the sallad itself.


Oh, and try walking loads. Use your phone as step-counter and make sure you get at least 10.000 steps daily (ideally 15k but).

[Dave.]

I started a diet at the turn of the year and have lost a stone so far. :cool:

Two Weetabix for breakfast, babybel cheese, cherry tomatoes, an apple and an orange for lunch, and a meal off weight watchers app for tea (my fiancée goes to this every week).

I feel much fitter since starting the diet. I've had no alcohol this year either. :cool:

[Mazuuurk]

That sounds exclusively like "OK I'm hungry whaddawegot in the friiidge! Shit this'll have to do" type of food.

[SvN]

I'm starving already, still hours until dinner. Just had a dry slice of bread. Someone help me.

[Lewis]

The dog has gained two hundred grams since Christmas. :cool:

[Dave.]

That sounds exclusively like "OK I'm hungry whaddawegot in the friiidge! Shit this'll have to do" type of food.

Its very effective, all the food is very healthy. I want to avoid bread so that's the reason behind the lunch.

[Spikey M]

An apple and an orange for lunch. On your bike.

[Dave.]

On your bike.

Which would be an effective form of exercise to enable someone to lose weight.

I'm managing just fine with my lunch. I've cut out bread completely and I'm feeling the benefits of it. :cool:

[Spikey M]

What benefit? Bread is just a carbohydrate. Good to reduce for weight loss, but - unless you have an intolerance - it isn’t an evil substance.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I couldn't have an apple and an orange for lunch, let alone cherry tomatoes. I'd rather die of a heart attack than live like that.

[Spikey M]

I’m having a salad with feta for lunches at the moment. It’s shit but the cheese keeps me sane.

[Pepe]

Rather eat a mealsquare than bloody salad.

[phonics]

Feta's weird. I'll have one square and think 'This is much nicer than I normally think of Feta' and then I have another and feel like I'm going to be ill. Like my tastebuds can only handle so much feta.

[Dave.]

What benefit? Bread is just a carbohydrate. Good to reduce for weight loss, but - unless you have an intolerance - it isn’t an evil substance.

Benefit of weight loss. Extra benefit of diet is feeling better in myself. No longer do I return home from my office job and want to go to bed straightaway. It's brilliant and it's the future.

I'm still fat and have a massive beer belly but I'm heading in the right direction.

[Giggles]

What the fuck is a meal square?

[Giggles]

Shit, I just googled them. Or rather, lack of shit because they look a recipe for constipation.

[Offshore Toon]

I might buy some scales and start posting in here again. I'm pretty flabby atm but can't seem to shake it, admittedly mostly due to being weak-willed. I'm gonna attempt to have a low-key Christmas and may even start the weigh-ins before it all kicks off on 22nd in hope that I can fat shame myself into not eating everything in sight.

[SvN]

I'm an absolute disgrace at the moment. I feel like a revolting tub of lard. I need to do something before it becomes a problem.

[Boydy]

Same here. Already is a problem though. Not the best time of year to be doing anything about it either. It'll have to wait till January.

Also this thread seems to be fucked. It's showing there's a page 9 but when I click on it, it takes me back to the top of page 8.

[SvN]

Probably because of leedsrevolution's deleted account. It's fucked a few things.

To be fair, it's already a problem for me too. But not to the point where it's not salvageable with a few months of eating properly.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I started doing a 16/8 fast recently (ie all your eating comes in an 8 hour window). I don't know if it makes any difference to my weight but I already feel a bit better for it.

[Andy]

I get married in four months and I'm the fattest I've been for years. I'm around 14 stone at 5"8 which isn't ideal. Need to get down to 12.5 by April so will start posting in here in the new year.

[Foe]

I started doing a 16/8 fast recently (ie all your eating comes in an 8 hour window). I don't know if it makes any difference to my weight but I already feel a bit better for it.

I've been doing similar for years (basically skipping breakfast) and it's destroyed my metabolism. Suggest it'd be good for a month or two and then mix it back up so your body doesn't get used to it.

[Offshore Toon]

I started doing a 16/8 fast recently (ie all your eating comes in an 8 hour window). I don't know if it makes any difference to my weight but I already feel a bit better for it.
I'm a big fan of intermittent fasting. Becoming somewhat fat-adapted does wonders for curbing hunger. When I was full keto about a year and a half ago I could walk around for hours and not eat all day and I was fine. Probably lost half a stone in two weeks.

I've failed to get anywhere near keto so many times in the last year or so. I'm probably actually at an acceptable weight at the moment, and I'm sure there are plenty of people that think I don't need to lose weight, but I hide it well and I really don't want to die without having ever been slim. Just one summer would be nice.

I think I just need to hide myself away for a while, but its the boredom at weekends that leads to drinking/eating and feeling tired all week then I make up for it with food. How do people go about getting hobbies they can spend hours and hours on? I just don't seem to care about anything. Even writing all this out, when I get paid on Thursday there's every chance I'll decide that its Christmas and I don't care about dieting.

This place is quite handy in that regard, though, as there are plenty of posters just waiting for any opportunity to put somebody down. A fat week where you gain a pound or two comes with great shame.

Anyway, lets do this. Summer 2019 is ours.

[Offshore Toon]

Weighed 108.5kg yesterday, but late in the day and with clothes on. Think 100kg by April is a decent target.

[Kikó]

I'm a bit heavier than I'd like - 80kg last time I weighed. Would like to be down to 76 again.

Intermittent fasting is good for you but I've never bothered. Maybe in the new year.

[Offshore Toon]

01/01/2019: 110.6kg

That's 2.1kg more than ten days ago, but truth be told I weighed pretty similar to the 10-day-old weight a couple of days ago and have just eaten shitloads since, so that'll drop right down by next weigh-in which might give me a little boost. I'll probably switch to Sunday weigh-ins as that's more likely to keep me out of trouble.

For the first time ever, I had quite a few people make comments about working out over Christmas. I do go to the gym relatively frequently, but nobody has ever said anything. I did start doing 5x5 reps on arms recently, which is probably the reason why, but regardless that's given me extra motivation to keep going in the gym. I'm gonna keep running too and try to organise weekend kick-abouts, though its a pain in the arse in winter. Then from Feb when I have money again I'll alternate kickboxing/6-a-side on Monday evenings.

Is anybody else joining FAT FIGHTERS?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/02/76/50/0276500d453905462176c7a80ab2b0fb.jpg

[igor_balis]

HI MATE

In readiness for NEW YEAR NEW IGOR, I basically allowed December to be a total cheat month. I know that's the case for everyone this time of year, but I fucking went for it. Drank shit loads, ate about 15 takeaways, randomly having 4 slices of toast at before bed, some days my lunch at work would be like a ASDA triple fat bastard wrap, a sausage roll and loads of crisps.

Just weighed myself and to my amazement I've only gone from ~12 stone to 12 stone 2.8 pounds. That's barely more than a KG gained. Piece of piss, lads.

[Boydy]

Fuck off, you smug wanker.

[mugbull]

I assumed I’d gain some pounds over December too but the horrible food poisoning I had a couple weeks ago and the subsequent decline in food libido means I’ve lost about 10 pounds this month, which I really didn’t need or want

[Foe]

Attempted to go for a run around some playing fields today. Probably the first time I've really tried to run outside in about 5 years.

Did not go well.

Think I'll try and stick with it every week or so and try and play some more football ie 5s. I do plenty weights but if I want to be a bit leaner I'll need to do some cardio.

[SvN]

I've officially started. Put on about a stone over December, and 2 stone since the end of summer. I'm aiming to lose 3 stone by the summer, as I was a bit podgy when I got back from my holidays.

I can definitely go it if I go "all in", and I'm feeling super motivated right now. If I can keep it up for a fortnight, it will be plain sailing from there.

[Baz]

Got weighed this morning, expecting the worst.

10 stone 4.

No worries there.

See you in the other threads, fatties.

[Offshore Toon]

It doesn't matter what you weigh, though, it's how you look. I'm only weighing myself in order to provide extra motivation through shaming.

I went gym yesterday and was okay after a couple weeks off. I've been on three runs since Christmas, though, and they've all been dreadful, but it'll come soon enough.

[Foe]

Chicken, chips and crumble for lunch at work.

Fucked it, lads. :(

[SvN]

I went to bed famished last night. Painful stuff. Usually takes about 4 or 5 days until my stomach stops having a tantrum. Today has been better so far. No slip ups yet from me.

[Offshore Toon]

That's the biggest struggle for me. Tomorrow and Saturday I'll tackle it properly. I've had no carbs today, so I'm hoping that's prepared my body somewhat. I'll eat to get through work and then the real hell starts. Can't wait.

[Adamski]

You'll end up crashing and burning if you go cold turkey doing this.

I track my calories, protein & fibre on My Fitness Pal and lift 3 times a week. Lost 3 stone in 6 months and still been able to have a life, it's been excellent.

[Andy]

Using this odd half week as a transition into my diet starring properly on Monday.

Haven't been training or tracking my calories but I'm sticking to three decent meals a day and healthy snacks in between and plenty of water etc.

On Sunday I'll prep my breakfast and lunches for the working week and start tracking from Monday morning. Going to aim for 2,200 calories a day and try to gym 3 or 4 times a week.

Alcohol is always my biggest hurdle, end up getting pissed, eating shit and then the next day hungover either drinking again or eating a load more shit and not wanting to train. Going to try and keep my drinking down as much as possible for 6 weeks and then spend 6 weeks easing myself back into once I am more used to eating well and training.

[SvN]

Drinking is the killer for me too. Not only is each beer about 200 odd calories, but like you said, it leads to me saying "Ah fuck it" and ordering a pizza or something.

I'm not tracking calories precisely, but I roughly know what I'm eating. I'm aiming for under 1200 per day for now, and will increase that to 1600 once I've made a bit of progress. I don't really get much exercise outside of walking the dog, but that's good for about 3 miles per day.

[Adamski]

Using this odd half week as a transition into my diet starring properly on Monday.

Haven't been training or tracking my calories but I'm sticking to three decent meals a day and healthy snacks in between and plenty of water etc.

On Sunday I'll prep my breakfast and lunches for the working week and start tracking from Monday morning. Going to aim for 2,200 calories a day and try to gym 3 or 4 times a week.

Alcohol is always my biggest hurdle, end up getting pissed, eating shit and then the next day hungover either drinking again or eating a load more shit and not wanting to train. Going to try and keep my drinking down as much as possible for 6 weeks and then spend 6 weeks easing myself back into once I am more used to eating well and training.

I was on 2200-2400 for the last 6 months or so. Have increased to maintenance calories (2800) over Christmas and probably the rest of this month just for a bit of a break.

Will see where I'm at then, could probably get a bit leaner before looking to add some on.

[Adamski]

Drinking is the killer for me too. Not only is each beer about 200 odd calories, but like you said, it leads to me saying "Ah fuck it" and ordering a pizza or something.

I'm not tracking calories precisely, but I roughly know what I'm eating. I'm aiming for under 1200 per day for now, and will increase that to 1600 once I've made a bit of progress. I don't really get much exercise outside of walking the dog, but that's good for about 3 miles per day.

Under 1200 is mental IMO, I can't see how you'll stick to that. Even 1600 will be too tough.

https://www.iifym.com/tdee-calculator/

This will calculate how many calories you burn per day, and then you should just subtract 600 calories which should give you a loss of between 1 and 1.5 lbs per week.

[SvN]

Under 1200 is mental IMO, I can't see how you'll stick to that. Even 1600 will be too tough.

https://www.iifym.com/tdee-calculator/

This will calculate how many calories you burn per day, and then you should just subtract 600 calories which should give you a loss of between 1 and 1.5 lbs per week.

https://www.reddit.com/r/1200isplenty/

It's not that mental if you're careful about what you eat. I never eat breakfast, have around 300 calories for lunch, 700ish for dinner, leaving 200 for snacks/drinks. Yesterday I had a 6 inch Turkey & Ham Subway for lunch, followed by tomato and chicken pasta in the evening. I had an apple in the morning and a banana in the evening for snacks.

Losing weight isn't that difficult for me once I get over the initial week or so. I lost around 5 stone a few years ago, but working from home and quitting squash/the gym has meant the weight has gradually crept back on over the years.

[Adamski]

Fair enough, as I said above, I managed to lose about 1-1.5lbs per week steadily on around 2200-2400 calories a day which meant I could incorporate some treats in which made me a lot less likely to fall off the wagon.

If it works for you then happy days!

[SvN]

Long term I need to learn some moderation. Once I get to my goal weight, I often end up eating like shit for the next month. As I said above, drinking is a big problem for me, as its useless calories and it leads to me eating even worse food. I need to teach myself how to moderate a bit better.

[Offshore Toon]

I'm very similar to SvN. I can go into robot mode if motivated enough. I find it pretty easy on low carb, but drinking really fucks things up. I'm going to try and be as good as I can, but I've got a big weekend next weekend, then another couple in mid February. That's a decent window in-between to get things done, though, then going into March I can hopefully get a run of a couple months together.

[Offshore Toon]

01/01/2019: 110.6kg
06/01/2019: 110.3kg

That's a bit shit, but I did end up getting hammered on Friday and binge eating a bit yesterday. I think I might switch to Friday morning weigh-ins as at least there'll be more consistent readings that what we get on Sundays. This coming weekend is going to be heavy, but then there's a three-and-a-half week run with no temptations.

[Adamski]

I weigh every day then just take the average for the week as my weekly weight. Means I don’t get hung up on fluctuations etc. Might be a shout for you?

[Offshore Toon]

Yeah, good shout. Or at least weigh myself every day to know when its a huge fluctuation or not.

[Adamski]

I had a lunch out and a takeaway last night and jumped up 4lbs overnight :D.

Guarantee I’ll be back down 3lbs at least tomorrow but if I had taken today as my weekly weight I’d have had a shit fit.

[SvN]

I've been pretty good this weekend. I had a pint yesterday and one this evening, but nothing else that I shouldn't have. I've lost 8lbs since the weight I was new year's day, but the vast majority of that is obviously bloat.

[The Merse]

I'm 85kg at the mo, a good 5kg over my comfort zone, so I'll be back on a soup diet from tomorrow, roughly doing a 6:1 pattern, allowing for solid food and drinks on a Thursday so not to end up totally depressed. Hoping to drop 4kg this month, and as I usually do when shedding, drop a few more in Feb before easing up.

[Andy]

This weekend was relitevely easy, had four cans on Saturday night to get rid of my last few from Christmas. Ate well without tracking anything and made a couple of batch meals to tie me over through the week.

Have planned out and logged all my calories for the day just under 2000. Hoping to do a bit of gentle exercise this evening and then start gym from tomorrow.

[Spikey M]

Dieting whilst living on 4 or 5 hours sleep a night is a no go, so any weight loss I achieve will be solely down to not eating and drinking like Henry VIII as I did for the whole of December. That alone should be good for about half a stone, mind.

[TG09]

I'm back on the keto bandwagon again, did well beginning of last year losing 7kgs.

No carbs, sugar. inc beer. (Red wine and whisky aloud :))

[SvN]

The next couple of days will be tough. I'm staying at the office and there's a fridge full of beer and a shitload of snacks left over from the Christmas party, all just begging to be snacked on.

[Boydy]

What do you do when you stay over at the office? Do you work all evening? Where do you sleep?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Presumably he has one of these contraptions which the Japanese have come up with for just such a purpose.

https://gadgetswizard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/King-Jim-Futon-Air-Japanese-Sleeping-Coat-for-Office-Naps.jpg

[Giggles]

I've been trying to eat breakfast since Christmas but it fucks up my whole day.

[SvN]

:D

I have a bedroom here that has a TV, desk, sofa and bed in it. The evenings go pretty quickly in most cases - I either work if there's something important that needs doing, or just watch TV/play games. Same as at home, really. Once I've walked the dog and eaten dinner, there's usually only a couple of hours to kill.

[Mazuuurk]

You mostly work from home but when you're in the office, you've turned your office into...another home? :cab:

[SvN]

Sort of. The office itself is untouched, but I need somewhere to sleep. We had a spare room on the ground floor that was just being used for storage, so I turned it into a bedroom.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

GP said I have to cut carbs massively, anyone have any good lunch options/recipes?

[Mazuuurk]

Use beans or lentils as the "base" of foods. They have carbs, but much less than say potato. And I suppose if you do eat carbs, eat "natural" ones (i.e. potatoes or beets or carrots or whatever) and basically avoid anything that has flour in it.

Which fuckin sucks, by the way - because bread, baby.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I never understand how carbs can be so bad yet be the perfect conduit for any meal.

[Adamski]

Why did he tell you to cut them, out of interest?

[Giggles]

I'd say so as he doesn't drop dead and doctors have a thing about carbs always. Last time I was in the hospital the doctor said to me about weight, etc and his answer was "no more bread". I rarely eat bread and have loads of far worse things but is was just no bread (he didn't ask if I even ate it or what I ate).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Why did he tell you to cut them, out of interest?

Talking about weight and he asked for a rough daily dietary intake.

[Andy]

GP said I have to cut carbs massively, anyone have any good lunch options/recipes?

Eggs, meat, veg and fruit for breakfast. Soup with seeds for lunch. Then for your evening meals get your carbs from plant sources, green veg and potatoes.

Also things like fajitas with lettuce wraps rather then tortillas, stuffed peppers, cauli rice, spiralized veg etc

[Andy]

Annoyingly can't seem to properly get started with my diet. Food wise I'm eating 2000 calories a day of mostly whole clean foods but I've had a bit of a cold since Friday and haven't got the energy to get out and do any walking or go to the gym etc. I really need the exercise to help keep the diet on track.

All the bad food and drink from Christmas is gone now so no distractions. Just need to shift this cold and get moving.

[SvN]

In my opinion, the key to weight loss is in the diet rather than the exercise. Exercise is great at keeping yourself healthy, though.

You can eat 500 calories in about 5 minutes. It's going to take you an hour or so to work that off in the gym.

[Adamski]

In my opinion, the key to weight loss is in the diet rather than the exercise. Exercise is great at keeping yourself healthy, though.

You can eat 500 calories in about 5 minutes. It's going to take you an hour or so to work that off in the gym.

Agreed yeah.

It really is all about calories. If you expend 2500 calories a day just going about your life and all you eat is 2000 calories worth of McDonalds you’ll still lose weight. You won’t be healthy, but the weight will still come off.

[TG09]

GP said I have to cut carbs massively, anyone have any good lunch options/recipes?


My lunches never have carbs, mainly consist of salad and a meat. Tuna, chicken, steak that sort of thing.

[TG09]

In my opinion, the key to weight loss is in the diet rather than the exercise. Exercise is great at keeping yourself healthy, though.

You can eat 500 calories in about 5 minutes. It's going to take you an hour or so to work that off in the gym.

True, losing weight is roughly 70% - 80% diet and rest working out, fitness, cardio etc...

You need to burn more calories then you put in to the body.

[Andy]

In my opinion, the key to weight loss is in the diet rather than the exercise. Exercise is great at keeping yourself healthy, though.

You can eat 500 calories in about 5 minutes. It's going to take you an hour or so to work that off in the gym.

Yeah this is true. Just personally I find it really hard to stay on track if I'm not exercising as well as eating well.

It's 100% a mental thing with me.

[SvN]

Yeah this is true. Just personally I find it really hard to stay on track if I'm not exercising as well as eating well.

It's 100% a mental thing with me.

Oh, I definitely get that. It's a lot easier to resist the temptation of a 400 calorie piece of cake when you can equate it to your gym session earlier that day.

[TG09]

Yeah this is true. Just personally I find it really hard to stay on track if I'm not exercising as well as eating well.

It's 100% a mental thing with me.

Also makes it hard over holidays when people do lunches and bring in awesome food. I failed over Christmas, but so far been on track.

[Lewis]

If you are fat enough that your doctor is on your case about your carbohydrate intake you could live on sausages and omelettes and the weight would still fly off. Get on that Tyson Fury burgers and cheese diet.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He wasn't on my case, I was asking him.

He's also set up blood tests for me to take and will refer me to a dietician (I've been twice, they're crap) because I said losing weight would help with my depression.

[Giggles]

Which are the real ones and which are the chancers? Dieticians or nutritionists?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Which are the real ones and which are the chancers? Dieticians or nutritionists?

https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/food-and-diet/how-can-i-find-a-registered-dietitian-or-nutritionist/

Dietitian (that doesn't look right but whatever) are the proper ones.

They weren't much help last time I went down that route though.

[Offshore Toon]

It's true, but I find exercise gives you the double whammy of losing weight whilst also suppressing your appetite. Once I get in the swing of gym and running every day I'm on easy street, but it takes a while to get there.

EDIT: That's a response to the end of the last page.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Currently eating carrots with a lentil dip...

[Andy]

Currently eating carrots with a lentil dip...

Download the myfitnesspal app and start to track everything you eat and drink. Really helps with portion control and eventually weight loss.

It's a pain for the first couple of weeks scanning and inputting everything but becomes easier and helps loads.

[SvN]

Myfitnesspal is essential if you've never used it. It completely changed my mindset and educated me so much about portion control. I don't really bother with it now because I don't feel the need, but I used it for about a year when I originally went from obese to normal.

[Adamski]

The amount of calories in pasta for example is mental. I used to have pretty much two handfuls on my own and think I was 'being healthy'. That's probably about 150g of pasta at around 500 calories. Adding in meat & cheese etc and you're not far off 1000 calories.

I think that's where people say 'oh just cut out carbs' when really they should be talking about portion control.

[SvN]

Yep. My mother in law is overweight, and my wife has been trying to educate her about calories for years. She'll be on a "diet" and for dinner she'll have a huge portion of pasta, covered in grated cheese, with a garlic pizzabread shared with her husband. It must be pushing 1000+ calories easily, yet she thinks she's had a healthy meal.

[Boydy]

How could anyone think that's healthy by any measure?

[SvN]

"Oh, it's only pasta"

[SvN]

I think their generation see pasta as an inherently healthy food. So having loads of it isn't a problem.

[Kikó]

Associate it with the Italians and their healthy long living. However that was probably more down to a scarcity of food in that generation.

Carb wise - obviously what's been said but also look for foods "low fat" as they're usually packed with sugar. Sugar converts to carbs and you've got your insulin spikes which increases the hunger levels. Sugar is the real devil.

[Adamski]

If you can live with those 1 cal sprays in place of oil thats a ridiculous saving in calories, too. 2 tbsp of that is like 250 calories.

[SvN]

Yeah I use one of those, but typically need about 8 sprays. Still better than freepouring oil.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I hate the sprays so much.

[Boydy]

Associate it with the Italians and their healthy long living. However that was probably more down to a scarcity of food in that generation.

Carb wise - obviously what's been said but also look for foods "low fat" as they're usually packed with sugar. Sugar converts to carbs and you've got your insulin spikes which increases the hunger levels. Sugar is the real devil.
Other way round - carbs become sugar.

[Giggles]

Samsung Health is much cleaner than myfitnesspal for tracking food. The latter is a mess.

[Andy]

I think their generation see pasta as an inherently healthy food. So having loads of it isn't a problem.

Lots of older people who struggle with weight have gone through weight watchers, slimming world, slim fast etc and there's never any mention of calories in vs calories out just whatever gimmick they're trying to push.

My partners mum was doing slimming world last year and they encourage you to eat as much pasta as you want, no tracking or counting. Just eating it till you're full. It's criminal really.

I tried.to explain to her about counting calories and she was having none of it, she ended up saying all that really matters is sugar so I'll watch that for a bit.

[Boydy]

Lots of older people who struggle with weight have gone through weight watchers, slimming world, slim fast etc and there's never any mention of calories in vs calories out just whatever gimmick they're trying to push.

My partners mum was doing slimming world last year and they encourage you to eat as much pasta as you want, no tracking or counting. Just eating it till you're full. It's criminal really.

I tried.to explain to her about counting calories and she was having none of it, she ended up saying all that really matters is sugar so I'll watch that for a bit.
That's not all that slimming world says, to be fair to them. They tell you to fill up a third (or maybe half, I can't remember exactly) of your plate with veg. And the pasta wouldn't be covered with cheese sauce or anything. It's all very low in fat. Their diet actually works.

[mugbull]

Cutting carbs is good for losing fat, if not especially for losing weight

[Pepe]

Cutting limbs is good for both.

[Adamski]

That's not all that slimming world says, to be fair to them. They tell you to fill up a third (or maybe half, I can't remember exactly) of your plate with veg. And the pasta wouldn't be covered with cheese sauce or anything. It's all very low in fat. Their diet actually works.

It’s not really sustainable though as you can ‘cheat the system’ to save up your syns to have on treats but depending on the calories in those syns, you could put on weight.

There are benefits to it but it’s essentially making it into a game rather than the actual science of eating less calories than you expend.

[SvN]

Just did a weigh in - 11lbs down so far since new year's day. I managed to survive the two days in the office without having a beer, so that was positive. It's my birthday this weekend though, so I expect to have a difficult few days. I'm definitely drinking and eating out, hopefully I don't over indulge.

[Adamski]

Just did a weigh in - 11lbs down so far since new year's day. I managed to survive the two days in the office without having a beer, so that was positive. It's my birthday this weekend though, so I expect to have a difficult few days. I'm definitely drinking and eating out, hopefully I don't over indulge.

That's awesome!

It's a bit of a cliche but I've found the best way to do it is to eat whatever you want on your birthday, but get right back on the wagon the next day. Worst case you might gain a few pounds of water weight etc which should disappear by the weekend after, but you won't do too much damage.

[Offshore Toon]

01/01/2019: 110.6kg
06/01/2019: 110.3kg

That's a bit shit, but I did end up getting hammered on Friday and binge eating a bit yesterday. I think I might switch to Friday morning weigh-ins as at least there'll be more consistent readings that what we get on Sundays. This coming weekend is going to be heavy, but then there's a three-and-a-half week run with no temptations.
107.6kg today which is consistent with the readings this week. I think that's a fairer reflection given I'm not crammed with food. I'll weigh tomorrow and that'll be my official number, then next week I'll be happy to be anywhere close to that as this weekend will be a blow out. From there I've four working weeks with no big plans so I'm going to attempt to keep my head down.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cauliflower rice is fucking shambolic.

[TG09]

Back on my Coconut cream, chia seeds and berries for breakfast. Added Coconut flakes to mix it up a bit.

[Giggles]

I'm still trying to force myself to eat breakfast. Made one of them yogurt porridge loaves as I don't like wet porridge and it's handy to eat driving.

[Pen]

I'm sltill trying to force myself to eat breakfast. Made one of them yogurt porridge loaves as I don't like wet porridge and it's handy to eat driving.

Sounds good that. Link for the recipe please.

I’m not trying to lose weight, but I have been trying to get back to my usual diet after really going overboard with overindulging in everything during my holiday in December. As a result I’m hungry all the time which is annoying, as I made a bet about quitting sweets, crisps, etc. until my sons birthday in April. I think eating quite a bit of meat (I don’t usually eat any) during my holiday plays some part with this hunger I’m feeling.

[Boydy]

Cauliflower rice is fucking shambolic.
Yeah, it's awful.

[Giggles]

Smells like feet.

[mugbull]

I like it enough

[Giggles]

Sounds good that. Link for the recipe please.

I’m not trying to lose weight, but I have been trying to get back to my usual diet after really going overboard with overindulging in everything during my holiday in December. As a result I’m hungry all the time which is annoying, as I made a bet about quitting sweets, crisps, etc. until my sons birthday in April. I think eating quite a bit of meat (I don’t usually eat any) during my holiday plays some part with this hunger I’m feeling.

500g tub of yogurt (I used blueberry last time).
Wash and dry out the tub, fill with porridge oats.
1 teaspoon of bread soda (bicarb).
½ teaspoon of salt.

Mix all up, put in a greased loaf tin, bake for 40 mins at 180°C, remove from tin, bake for 10 mins at 180°C.

[Pen]

Thanks. Will try that on the weekend.

[Lewis]

That sounds good. I always have porridge before the gym, so that might make a change.

[Adamski]

Is it quite dense? Sounds interesting.

[Giggles]

It's not bad, not too dry so it can be eaten without anything on it.

Handy to grab going out the door to eat on the go.

[Giggles]

http://i66.tinypic.com/2lb1fn8.png

[Adamski]

Looks decent. I’d stick peanut butter or jam on that as well. Might do some at the weekend as well.

[Offshore Toon]

Cauliflower rice is fucking shambolic.
I like it, but then I like cauliflower. Aldi do frozen stuff but also Mediterranean style cauliflower rice that's really good.

https://veganwomble.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Aldi-mediterrainean-inspired-cauliflower-rice.jpg

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah, it's awful.

I also had some broccoli rice (we bought a big pack of each and had a bit of both) which was a lot better.

But broccoli is far superior for me.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I like it, but then I like cauliflower. Aldi do frozen stuff but also Mediterranean style cauliflower rice that's really good.

https://veganwomble.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Aldi-mediterrainean-inspired-cauliflower-rice.jpg

I like cauliflower but not just boiled.

That looks decent though.

[Offshore Toon]

01/01/19: 110.6kg
06/01/19: 110.3kg
11/01/19: 106.7kg

With a 0.9kg drop from just yesterday I reckon I'm still shitting out Christmas.

Targeting 100kg by April and 95kg by July.