TERROR in Berlin

[Magic]

Truck driven in to Christmas market. Must be similar to the attack in Nice. :(

[-james-]

It had been a few months.

[John]

If it's the one I'm thinking of it'll have been fucking rammed.

[Dark Soldier]

One dead allegedly.

[Disco]

If it's the one I'm thinking of it'll have been fucking rammed.

It has been.

[Magic]

It has been.

Lol poor choice of words Jonnie.

[Baz]

If it's the one I'm thinking of it'll have been fucking rammed.:henn0rz:

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

That's a big lorry, I'd be amazed if there's not a significant number killed.

[Shindig]

Can we lump that ambassador being assassinated in with this? That looks ropey as fuck.

[Dark Soldier]

9 confirmed dead now. Police assuming its an attack, cannot confirm yet.

[niko_cee]

The difference maker here will be that when you ram things that aren't people (ie market stalls and the like) then they put up much more resistance and you run out of steam quicker.

Or, maybe that Jock has managed to wangle himself another job. Praise be to free movement!

[Magic]

Looks like a proper HGV in the pics.

[Shindig]

Aye, it's no bin lorry.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

The difference maker here will be that when you ram things that aren't people (ie market stalls and the like) then they put up much more resistance and you run out of steam quicker.

Or, maybe that Jock has managed to wangle himself another job. Praise be to free movement!

:D

[Magic]

I did a pretend ISIS beheading snapchat on the wife last night. Looks pretty tasteless now.

[John]

Lol poor choice of words Jonnie.

Excellent, purposeful choice.

[Kikó]

Hope you're OK AD.

[Magic]

Stayed in a hotel a 9 minute walk from there last year. I'm becoming a parody of myself.

Could have easily been 1945. Lucky guy.

[Giggles]

RIP AD.

small letters

[Dark Soldier]

RIP AD. One of life's cunts, but our cunt. God bless.

[Dquincy]

You know the world is changing when you think 'only' 9 people have died. It's horrific, but the consistent attacks are making it not so shocking now.

Also, Magic is going to have to update his review if 2016 thread. Poor bugger.

[Giggles]

You know the world is changing when you think 'only' 9 people have died. It's horrific, but the consistent attacks are making it not so shocking now.

Also, Magic is going to have to update his review if 2016 thread. Poor bugger.

Someone might read it now.

[Lewis]

Nine is a bit of a shit effort. I wonder which websites will get shut down if it turns out to have been a 'refugee'.

[Magic]

Someone might read it now.

Cunt. :)

[mugbull]

Left Berlin on Wednesday, went to a cafe on that square all the time and the Christmas market there too. Unbelievable.

[mugbull]

In fact, it was what, 7:30 or something? Monday evening? I'd give it a 1/5 chance I would have been at that Christmas market had my study abroad gone on a week longer.

[Magic]

Shame. :(

[Dquincy]

In fact, it was what, 7:30 or something? Monday evening? I'd give it a 1/5 chance I would have been at that Christmas market had my study abroad gone on a week longer.

What would you have done if you were there?

[mugbull]

Ya mate, if you're ever in Berlin and have work you need to get done, hit up Bikini Berlin. Its got hammocks and a prime view overlooking Germany's deadliest Christmas market

[mugbull]

What would you have done if you were there?

What, died?

[Dquincy]

Yes.

[Lewis]

It looks like it was a Pakistani wot done it. Mental illness reports to follow.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I just had to ring the Berlin police because I have a cousin there who hadn't been in contact (I'm apparently the only one in the extended family who speaks any German at all). Sat on the helpline holding tone for an hour being ignored by krauts, and then she texted to say she was alright. Still, I now know that the Berlin police has the worst holding tone tunes in the world.

[phonics]

I just had to ring the Berlin police because I have a cousin there who hadn't been in contact (I'm apparently the only one in the extended family who speaks any German at all). Sat on the helpline holding tone for an hour being ignored by krauts, and then she texted to say she was alright. Still, I now know that the Berlin police has the worst holding tone tunes in the world.

Not to trvialise the situation but this was the hold tone at my last temp. agency.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZbe2lIfnX4

[Jimmy Floyd]

That bloke with the grey mullet and beard is going to haunt my dreams.

[Lewis]

I just had to ring the Berlin police because I have a cousin there who hadn't been in contact (I'm apparently the only one in the extended family who speaks any German at all). Sat on the helpline holding tone for an hour being ignored by krauts, and then she texted to say she was alright. Still, I now know that the Berlin police has the worst holding tone tunes in the world.

'Thank you for holding. We are currently experiencing increased demand, which is really fucking shit, yeah? An operative will be with you as soon as possible.'

[Pepe]

Left Berlin on Wednesday, went to a cafe on that square all the time and the Christmas market there too. Unbelievable.

I'm sure your university has resources you can use in these moments of great distress.

[Spoonsky]

On my last day in London this summer I walked past Russell Square and the next day there was a stabbing there. What now?

[Dquincy]

On my last day in London this summer I walked past Russell Square and the next day there was a stabbing there. What now?

Surprised you weren't a suspect really.

[Shindig]

Like that Amish lad's going to use tools of iron.

[mugbull]

I'm sure your university has resources you can use in these moments of great distress.

Good attempt

[John Arne]

Triggered.

[Giggles]

First time I've noticed that not one person in work even mentioned it this morning. New normal indeed.

[Magic]

They're probably frightened to be a suspected RACIST. Simply acknowledging the event happened is workplace inequality.

[Giggles]

In fairness, if they want to be PC then I'm the last person they'd want to mention it to.

[Lewis]

lol, the Pakistani asylum seeker was the wrong man, and it was actually a Tunisian asylum seeker. :harold:

[mugbull]

Unless you sell vegetables, why would you need asylum from Tunisia? Smh

[Bartholomert]

How's that multiculturalism working out Western Europe? But yes, you're racist if you want any immigration controls.

[Shindig]

Technically, this has all been sparked by an act of generosity that's backfired hugely. Different countries deal with immigration in different ways. I mean, you're saying Western Europe when it's more of a Central European problem. Even so, who's blowing up Italy? Britain's always been tough on it's borders and background checks. That's why our terrorists are homegrown.

And you've lived in Germany. Can you not give us anything more insightful than, "lol, Europe."

[John Arne]

Germany has immigration control. This Tunisian guy (assuming he isn't a citizen) will be there on some sort of VISA, or living there illegally.

What do you want Germany to do, build a wall?

[niko_cee]

It's still working better than the second amendment, thanks.

[Magic]

There's no political solution to this. It's a war of attrition. The only way to defeat this is to arm yourself with kitchen weapons and hunt them out one by one Rwanda '94 style.

[mugbull]

This stuff is in ~vogue~ now for extremist Muslims, so even if ISIS is being owned in the ME and the refugees being treated for (mostly) fairly in their asylum countries, there will be losers driving lorries into crowds anyway. Sort of like school shootings in the US after Columbine, it's just a "thing" that people know about as a possibility.

[phonics]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0Rqo2SXEAA64Xp.jpg:large

The larger problem is these governments being absolutely unwilling/unable to co-operate with each other and general incompetence. You see it again and again with this stuff, we can't even get MI5/MI6 or the FBI/CIA to get along let alone fucking Interpol and friends.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Us and the Americans are absolutely light years ahead of Europe on that stuff, which is ironic given that the EU should be giving them a platform for increased co-operation. That's why you're seeing all these attacks in the European states and we are getting off scot free for now.

If you read up on how the Belgians attempted to deal with their bombings earlier in the year it's a bit of an eye opener, might as well be Chief Wiggum in charge over there.

[phonics]

Belgium seemed to have 4 different groups that all dealt with Terrorism, none of them with any funding whatsoever.

[John Arne]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0Rqo2SXEAA64Xp.jpg:large

The larger problem is these governments being absolutely unwilling/unable to co-operate with each other and general incompetence. You see it again and again with this stuff, we can't even get MI5/MI6 or the FBI/CIA to get along let alone fucking Interpol and friends.

I don't really get why the German's needed his original Tunisian passport. Have security forces walk him through customs at the airport in Germany onto a flight into Tunisia and let the other end (his country of citizenship) deal with the problem. Yes, you piss of the Tunisians, but hey, you lose one more potential terrorist who had no legal right to stay in your country anyway.
Would this contravene UN Human Rights?

[Lewis]

Us and the Americans are absolutely light years ahead of Europe on that stuff, which is ironic given that the EU should be giving them a platform for increased co-operation. That's why you're seeing all these attacks in the European states and we are getting off scot free for now.

If you read up on how the Belgians attempted to deal with their bombings earlier in the year it's a bit of an eye opener, might as well be Chief Wiggum in charge over there.

I would be interested to know what level of infiltration we have in groups here, and how it compares to donning the IRA. Infiltrating them was probably all exciting and dangerous, where as busting Islamists just means signing on and listening to somebody being fat in a mosque.

[Magic]

Belgium seemed to have 4 different groups that all dealt with Terrorism, none of them with any funding whatsoever.

Don't they all hate and mistrust each other too?

Also this was just Brussels not Belgium entirely.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I would be interested to know what level of infiltration we have in groups here, and how it compares to donning the IRA. Infiltrating them was probably all exciting and dangerous, where as busting Islamists just means signing on and listening to somebody being fat in a mosque.

Infiltration, dunno. Surveillance, yes sir.

[Giggles]

Would anyone infiltrating not end brainwashed and turning?

[Disco]

Would anyone infiltrating not end brainwashed and turning?

They aren't wizards, it's no different to infiltrating any other group.

[Giggles]

They aren't wizards, it's no different to infiltrating any other group.

They kind of are though. The whole thing is built around fucking madness.

[Disco]

It's the robes and the beards isn't it.

[Shindig]

Also, why are they bothered about catching this guy? His head stotted off the windshield. He'll be comatose in a ditch somewhere with half a head missing.

[Kikó]

They kind of are though. The whole thing is built around fucking madness.

A bit like Donnie Brasco cept muzzies not mafia.

[Giggles]

Mentalists one and all.

[Kikó]

We got an internal mail today saying a colleague was among those who died in the attacks. Pretty sobering.

[Magic]

We got an internal mail today saying a colleague was among those who died in the attacks. Pretty sobering.

Those internal mail death things are awful especially if you aren't aware of any illnesses. That must have sucked. Were you close?

[Kikó]

It was a sudden onset of death by lorry.

[Baz]

Found out the prat I work with was at these markets more recently than AD.

If he'd have died, I honestly can't express how much more satisfying my life would be. :(

[Bartholomert]

Germany has immigration control. This Tunisian guy (assuming he isn't a citizen) will be there on some sort of VISA, or living there illegally.

What do you want Germany to do, build a wall?

Not let him into the country. It's not too hard really, just requires the government being not pussy.

[mugbull]

The real tragedy here is how much the AfD will feed on this. They don't even have to do anything, just sit there and wait for the ignorant tards to get self-righteous.

[Magic]

It was a sudden onset of death by lorry.

It's a crying shame it wasn't you instead.

[Kikó]

Bit mean tbh.

[Disco]

You wouldn't have gotten that email though, every cloud etc.

[Shindig]

It's a crying shame it wasn't you instead.

I know you want the board to pick up but a member death's not got form for doing that. Unless Gary Speed signed up in 1999,

[Magic]

Shot dead in Milan.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I can only imagine how much hair gel there is in the 'Squadra Volanti'.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Plane on the loose in the Med: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38416112


Maltese Prime Minister Joseph Muscat said that his country's security forces were standing by.

Well that should put everyone's minds at rest.

[Disco]

I can only imagine how much hair gel there is in the 'Squadra Volanti'.

They drive Alfas so they'll be on the scene maybe next week.

[Jimmy Floyd]

To be fair to them, it's pretty impressive to be able to shoot a suspect dead at night whilst wearing a pair of Armani sunglasses.

[GS]

The real tragedy here is how much the AfD will feed on this. They don't even have to do anything, just sit there and wait for the ignorant tards to get self-righteous.

The Italians couldn't deport him, despite his being imprisoned for four years, because he had destroyed his identification papers. He was then able to move freely around Europe owing to Schengen.

There are only so many such incidents which the 'public' will accept before the whole 'wir schaffen das' line rings hollow. If the AfD profit from it, it'll be because the mainstream parties inspire no confidence that they're actually prepared to confront it and deal with it.

This guy didn't come in from Syria last year, but it all feeds into a sustainable narrative that the German government don't have the situation under control, don't know who's in the country and, therefore, that it's going to keep happening.

[phonics]

What are you talking about? I literally posted the entire timeline including their knowledge of him.

What do the Italians have to do with this?

[GS]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38396987


Amri, 24, was known to German police and had used a number of identities. He had travelled to Germany from Italy, where he served four years in prison over a fire at a school and refugee reception centre.

Italian officials said Amri had arrived in Italy in 2011 along with tens of thousands of other young men who fled Tunisia during the Arab Spring revolutions.

But in October of that year he was arrested in connection with a fire at a building and later convicted of vandalism, threats and theft.

The Italian justice ministry says he displayed bad conduct and was transferred among Sicilian prisons. Prison records indicate he tried to spark insurrections and also bullied other inmates.

However, there is no evidence that he was becoming radicalised.

Italian sources said that in 2015, at the end of his jail sentence, efforts were made to deport Amri to Tunisia but authorities there said they could not be sure he was Tunisian.

Instead, he was released and merely asked to leave the country.