[FOOTY] Weekend Fixtures 22/23 Oct - ft. Mou's Stamford Bridge return

[Reg]

...and a clash of Italian giants in Milan v Juventus.


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Full TV listings here. (http://www.live-footballontv.com)

Friday

Burton Albion v Birmingham City - 19:45 Sky

Osasuna v Real Betis - 19:45 Sky Sports Mix

Saturday

Bournemouth v Tottenham - 12:30 Sky Sports Mix
Arsenal v Middlesbrough
Burnley v Everton
Hull v Stoke
Leicester v Crystal Palace
Swansea v Watford
West Ham v Sunderland
Liverpool v West Brom - 17:30 BT

Aston Villa v Fulham
Brentford v Barnsley
Bristol City v Blackburn
Huddersfield v Derby
Newcastle v Ipswich
Norwich v Preston
Rotherham v Reading
Sheff Wed v QPR
Wigan v Brighton
Wolves v Leeds
Nottm Forest v Cardiff - 17:30 Sky

AC Milan v Juventus - 19:45 BT

Sunday

Man City v Southampton - 13:30 Sky
Chelsea v Man Utd - 16:00 Sky

Feyenoord v Ajax Eredivisie - 13:30 Sky Sports Mix
Rangers v Celtic (League Cup SF) - 14:15 BT
Sevilla v Atletico Madrid - 15:15 Sky
Real Madrid v Athletic Bilbao - 19:45 Sky
PSG v Marseille - 19:45 BT

[Kikó]

Drab 0-0. Ogba to be criticised.

[Lewis]

It was my friend's sister's birthday yesterday, and she reversed over their beloved ten year old cat setting off for her birthday meal.

[Magic]

Boring Cunte versus the king of shite on television as well? Fuck me.

[Waffdon]

I'm bored.

[Jimmy Floyd]

11 years since I was at Sevilla v Atletico at about this time of year (on the same weekend as Chelsea v United - I think United won 1-0 Fletcher or something) and Nernando Norres was playing for Atletico then as well. Nothing ever changes. Except Milan, apparently.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Very rarely seen as many late challenges in one half as from Tottenham here. If you match their work rate, they get a bit put out.

[Smiffy]

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[Smiffy]

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[Shindig]

I really can't tell whether the mackems will push the panic button at some point or just accept this as the worst season in Premier League existence.

[Magic]

Good away win Sam

[Jimmy Floyd]

My old man just saw Neil Warnock on the telly and said 'whoever that is, he should be England manager'. I'll roll with that.

[Boydy]

That was a sexy goal.

[Smiffy]

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[Smiffy]

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[Boydy]

Can BT really not find better co-commentators than fucking Glenn Hoddle and Robbie Savage? And if they can't, must they really make us suffer both of them at the same time?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Shit commentators are probably in their commercial interests, as they get loads of social media traffic and mentions from people moaning about them.

[Max Power]

Best performance of the season. Big calls from Ranieri to bin Albrighton and especially Vardy, but we are so much better with Okazaki in the team.

[Giggles]

Cabaye is white?

[John Arne]

I'm not sure what that is in reference to, but I know that he is 1/4 Vietnamese.

[Dquincy]

Why were arsenal so average yesterday?

[Giggles]

I'm not sure what that is in reference to, but I know that he is 1/4 Vietnamese.

I always imagined him as looking something like African black.

[Magic]

Why?

[Giggles]

Why?

No idea. Must have mixed him up with another Newcastle player back originally and never seen him since. I thought that mist have been a different Cayabe for Palace.

[Shindig]

I don't know how you get Moussa Sissoko and Johan Cabaye confused. Him and Cabella I can sort of understand.

[Giggles]

I don't know how you get Moussa Sissoko and Johan Cabaye confused. Him and Cabella I can sort of understand.

They signed about 18 French players that year in fairness didn't they?

[Baz]

Can BT really not find better co-commentators than fucking Glenn Hoddle and Robbie Savage? And if they can't, must they really make us suffer both of them at the same time?I don't mind Glen Hoddle, but maybe that's because he used to be on talkSPORT with Colin Murray a lot.

There was a poll on RAWK (http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=239047.2520) for worst pundit/commentator, that Martin Tyler ran away with. Carragher wasn't even an option. :D

[John]

I don't know how you get Moussa Sissoko and Johan Cabaye confused. Him and Cabella I can sort of understand.

By being completely oblivious to the world around you.

[Jimmy Floyd]

His dad jokes notwithstanding, Martin Tyler is the best by a long way, at least now that John Motson has retired.

[Giggles]

By being completely oblivious to the world around you.

The world around me is a past Newcastle United midfield?

:D oh fuck off, you used to be so much better than this.

[Giggles]

His dad jokes notwithstanding, Martin Tyler is the best by a long way, at least now that John Motson has retired.

Motson was the single worst thing to happen to football in the last half decade.

[Baz]

Motson was the single worst thing to happen to football in the last half decade.I have to agree with this. The man is a dithering idiot who needs at least three replays to see what's happened.

[Shindig]

Commentators in football are just recognisable voices, at the end of it. That's why they drag in three studio guests and a co-commentary to provide colour. If you want proper commentary, head into motorsport.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

John Stones :harold:

[John]

Stones the div once again.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I think that's the most appalling defensive error I've seen for many years.

[Reg]

It was really poor.

Two draws and two losses before this for City. I imagine if they don't win today it'll be Pep's worst run ever, results wise.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's amazing how many mistakes all these 'BALL PLAYING NONCES' that Pep needs make.

[Reg]

I don't know if that was meant to be zonal or man, but it was awful marking.

Fair play Stones. It's nice when players redeem themselves like that.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Hang on, was that disallowed? I'm watching on silent.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah Aguero was offside and made a play for the ball so lol at them.

[Reg]

City 3-3-4 now. :D

Thought they might bring on a right back and get some overlaps on the wings going, as Southampton have just been negating their numbers in the centre.

[John Arne]

Nasty tackle by Gundogan that.

[Lewis]

Who was booing there? 'Pep' is bigger than the rest of the club.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Fellainimania is clearly going to work today...

[randomlegend]

Not sure why there's no Shaw in the squad.

EDIT: Not Shaw hahahahahaha.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If there is a goal in this game I will be amazed. 0-0 an excellent result for both sides.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Not sure why there's no Shaw in the squad.

EDIT: Not Shaw hahahahahaha.

He's "injured".

[Jimmy Floyd]

Conte says he 'expects-a a tactical game-a'. Just put the life savings on 0-0.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:face:

[Kikó]

Shambles.

[Jimmy Floyd]

:drool: :drool: :drool:

De Gea sleepwalking naked into the hotel lobby on a busy lunchtime.

[randomlegend]

Conte says he 'expects-a a tactical game-a'. Just put the life savings on 0-0.

Do we need to have a whip-round for you, Jim lad?

[Ian]

Good start, you cunts.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Don't cry too much, rand.

[Smiffy]

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[Spoonsky]

lol @ Jimmy

[Jimmy Floyd]

When Conte bought that suit, did he have it tailored slightly roomier knowing that he would be wearing it with a cardigan? Surely they don't sell three piece suits with cardigans.

[Magic]

:harold:

That's Moroninho's plan out the window.

[Shindig]

What a shit-off five-horse race this is.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Visiting side, whoever they are, look a bit of a mess at the back.

[Lewis]

Chris Smalling is a bit of a mess without Daley Blind doing his thinking for him.

[Ian]

The state of this.

Getting bummed by this lot pretty much sums up what all the money has got.

[Smiffy]

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[Kikó]

This team is poor. Felliani is his usual worst and another fuck up from Smalling.

We always concede corners against Chelsea.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jesus.

[Shindig]

The lives that will be lost in the years upon years of trying to rebuild this lot.:D

[Magic]

:harold:!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So fucking bad.

[Kikó]

Blind is being found out. The guy is slower than wind erosion and it's painful to watch.

[Reg]

Sticking with the back six thing is madness when they're 2 goals down.

United offering no threat going forward whatsoever. For a manager known for making quick changes (subbing two players after half an hour, etc) this is strange.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Moses Victor heading for a comfortable Ballon d'Or win.

[Yevrah]

It's actually quite disgusting that Mourinho has set up to shit out two 0-0's in these games. Proper David Moyes stuff and it should be testing the limits of his reputation, not creating a narrative that the media all fall in line with.

Still, lol at the outcome.

[Kikó]

Awful that. How's he not getting sent off?

[Lewis]

Which reputation is that, the one built on a decade of doing exactly this?

[Raoul Duke]

Surprisingly, Fellaini is in the team and we play like mongs. Where is Shrek?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Awful that. How's he not getting sent off?

First rule of refereeing.

[Kikó]

Favour the home team?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Thank fuck Fellaini is gone.

Hopefully after that horror show he's never used again.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Where multiple decisions are possible, always take the most cowardly available decision.

[Reg]

Thank fuck Fellaini is gone.

Hopefully after that horror show he's never used again.
He was quite good on Monday. But he's never good when he has an even slightly ambiguous role. On Monday he defended alongside Herrera and took the least risky pass available. Under van Gaal in the matches when he was decent he got up the pitch and was a lump. Today, who knows.

[John Arne]

Did Bailly injure himself when he took out Hazard?

[Kikó]

Have England ever had a worse selection of centre backs? All of them are woeful and brain dead.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Absolutely fucking useless.

[Smiffy]

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[Yevrah]

Which reputation is that, the one built on a decade of doing exactly this?

It was much more effective than this turd and his teams always at least carried some threat.

[Jimmy Floyd]

We could get five here if we fancy it. N'Golo Kanté stabbing the last one in with his cock.

[Kikó]

We've bought loads of players but we managed to accumulate a load of players who are bang average. This has been poor but not surprising we're still putting out dog shit performances.

[Reg]

It was much more effective than this turd and his teams always at least carried some threat.
His previous squads were also better suited to the approach.

I wouldn't have thought anybody would say United's squad is suited to sitting back and defending.

[Ian]

Blimey, I didn't realise his cock was that long.

[Kikó]

We could get five here if we fancy it. N'Golo Kanté stabbing the last one in with his cock.

Lol.

[Max Power]

God I miss NG. What a player.

United are truly a rabble.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Pogba was genuinely disgraceful there.

[mugbull]

There's honestly nothing in sport I enjoy more than this. Get fucked you lifeless embarrassment of a football club

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I could probably score a goal against this defence.

Smalling has been appalling.

[Kikó]

There's honestly nothing in sport I enjoy more than this. Get fucked you lifeless embarrassment of a football club

Sorry, what?

[Smiffy]

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[SvN]

I could probably score a goal against this defence.

Smalling has been appalling.

Several players have had their worst performance in years. That fact, added to the first 30 seconds, means this result was always a possibility. Could still end up being 6, especially as the players have given up.

[mugbull]

Sorry, what?

Your team, mate

[Kikó]

Lifeless embarrassment? O rly?

[mugbull]

Lifeless embarrassment? O rly?

Yeah

[Smiffy]

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[Kikó]

18 points IMO.

[Smiffy]

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[Lewis]

They've missed Wayne Rooney making things happen today.

[Kikó]

I've staked a lot of money on it.

[John Arne]

I find it hard to believe that Martial and Rashford are both better wingers than Depay. I know he had slow start to his career, but he's such a quality player on his day (whenever that is).

[Kikó]

I find it hard to believe that Martial and Rashford are both better wingers than Depay. I know he had slow start to his career, but he's such a quality player on his day (whenever that is).

Trust me he's not.

[Max Power]

Who would you rather have? Kante or Pogba?

[Reg]

I find it hard to believe that Martial and Rashford are both better wingers than Depay. I know he had slow start to his career, but he's such a quality player on his day (whenever that is).
I believe he's had, at maximum, two of those days for United.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Depay is a fraud, I could look good in Holland. Well, maybe not me. But some of you could.

[Vim]

Who would you rather have? Kante or Pogba?

One hundred and twenty million Euros.

[Dquincy]

Mourinho asking for some advice from Conte there at the final whistle.

[Jimmy Floyd]

lol at United twitterers clinging to the fact that their fans were singing at the end. They're away football fans, of course they were.

[SvN]

Mocking fans posting on twitter is like laughing at a toddler trying to run.

[Lewis]

I'm not against this 6-3-1 BIG GAME stuff, but it needs Martial/Rashford as the one. Berbatoss used to miss these sort of games for a reason.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Apparently he was telling Conte not to do that rousing the crowd stuff because it's disrespectful.

[SvN]

Bailly out for 6 months apparently with knee ligament damage.

[Lewis]

And he still walked off the pitch. :cool:

[Smiffy]

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[Dquincy]

Apparently he was telling Conte not to do that rousing the crowd stuff because it's disrespectful.

Remember that time when he legged it down the pitch celebrating that Porto win at old Trafford.

[Davgooner]

Bet this geezer is struggling to enjoy the victory:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydnvRsk4cuA

[Lewis]

He deserves to be the next break-out star, like Andy Tate and that fat Scouse impressionist. Sky could get him to write a song for every important fixture and confront the managers with it.

[Jeet]

Every since we destroyed Chelsea and Conte decided to change formations, Chelsea have been dons to be fair.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I have no idea why 3-4-3 works, but apparently it does.

[Giggles]

Chelsea winning is better for anyonebuttheheadbangers, so I'll take that.

[elth]

This is going to keep happening as long as Mourinho keeps trying to shoehorn Pogba into a triangle midfield. He's not a #10.

Although that performance was abject enough that the formation wasn't really relevant.

[Magic]

Did anyone see Victor Anichebe's tweet? :D

[John Arne]

This one?

https://gyazo.com/e2fd1ab94f69a2a7dd1285e9a9c07407.png

[Baz]

:D

[Max Power]

Mahrez and Vardy on the shortlist for the Ballon d'Or.

I would imagine a lot of people are sick of hearing about the 'fairytale' and so on, I am myself to a certain extent. But then things just happen and you have to pinch yourself again. Two Leicester City players up for the Ballon d'Or, two players I watched play for us in the Championship no less. Okazaki to win it next year obvs.

[Reg]

I have no idea why 3-4-3 works, but apparently it does.
I think part (maybe a big part) of it is freeing Hazard up to attack. Much of the system seems to be based on counters, which suits your quick players - Moses, Kante, Pedro, Hazard. From what I saw Chelsea under Mourinho were at their worst when in prolonged periods of possession, with loads of ponderous passes. Costa is better when he's being a striker and not dropping too deep; I think he's another one better on the break. There might also be the simple reason that Conte is better at and has had more experience coaching 3-defender systems.

[phonics]

Also most teams haven't coached on beating 3 man defenses so it'll take some time to work out.