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Shindig
28-09-2024, 10:34 AM
Aye. And any nuanced take gets the "YOU CAN'T BOTH SIDES THIS!" treatment.

Lewis
28-09-2024, 10:45 AM
Hezbollah is a bit of a grey area insofar as they only exist because Israel was in Lebanon, and they have widespread democratic support in their part of the country. This would have been like us wiping out the IRA leadership, which would have been good, except Israel has killed five times as many civilians in a week as we did in forty years, which, erm...

Anyway, you have to wonder what exactly is in it for Iran if they just let this happen. Their whole justification for cutting themselves off is the 'Axis of Resistance' shit, and their lads are getting mogged all over the show. Why not cut them off and sell your wares like a normal country?

Magic
29-09-2024, 11:38 AM
This BBL death thing isn't adding up for me.

1. Who did it.
2. Who got it.

It just doesn't make sense...

Jimmy Floyd
29-09-2024, 01:06 PM
Anyway, you have to wonder what exactly is in it for Iran if they just let this happen. Their whole justification for cutting themselves off is the 'Axis of Resistance' shit, and their lads are getting mogged all over the show. Why not cut them off and sell your wares like a normal country?

Iran must be the most all talk no trousers regime that has ever existed. They literally never do anything.

Spikey M
29-09-2024, 01:32 PM
They're just making money selling weapons the same way we are. War and suffering is very lucrative. The modern world is an absolute cesspit.

Shindig
29-09-2024, 01:48 PM
Especially the Middle East.

Jimmy Floyd
29-09-2024, 02:51 PM
They're just making money selling weapons the same way we are. War and suffering is very lucrative. The modern world is an absolute cesspit.

The ancient world was worse.

Magic
29-09-2024, 05:12 PM
Israel wiping out the middle east. :drool:

niko_cee
29-09-2024, 05:48 PM
Just need to drop one on the ayatollah now to complete the bingo card.

-james-
01-10-2024, 08:58 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gxxjxgzjyo

The arrest footage :lol:

Yevrah
01-10-2024, 09:20 AM
That is excellent. :D What a pathetic individual.

SvN
01-10-2024, 09:46 AM
The editing on that last bit is pure comedy :D "You'll never be able to carry me" *Cuts to him being carried*

Lofty
01-10-2024, 10:02 AM
Glorious, bet he was gutted he was nicked by a load of women too.

Luke Emia
01-10-2024, 10:32 AM
Super Kings Lynn in the news. That’s what we live for.

Baz
01-10-2024, 10:49 AM
When my wife describes men she describes him.

Spikey M
01-10-2024, 10:57 AM
Are you married to Magic?

Magic
01-10-2024, 11:21 AM
When my wife describes men she describes him.

:wub:

Lofty
02-10-2024, 09:51 AM
https://news.sky.com/story/ian-hislop-have-i-got-news-for-you-star-in-taxi-hit-by-suspected-gunshot-13226352

Need Merton's alibi.

niko_cee
02-10-2024, 09:53 AM
On the HIGNFY front I saw there is now an American version on the beeb last night. Good grief no thank you.

niko_cee
02-10-2024, 10:40 AM
I feel that this round the world cruise ship which has been struggling to leave Top Ireland for months story is going to end with it sinking or some other tragedy. Seems cursed.

niko_cee
02-10-2024, 08:46 PM
https://news.sky.com/story/ian-hislop-have-i-got-news-for-you-star-in-taxi-hit-by-suspected-gunshot-13226352

Need Merton's alibi.

In the world's least surprising turn of events, it was something wrong with the car (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr750d1257mo), and not an assassination attempt on the editor of Private Eye.

Lofty
02-10-2024, 08:54 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8l9gpp8yro

Who's going to tell him?

niko_cee
02-10-2024, 09:01 PM
I thought that too.

Spikey M
02-10-2024, 09:08 PM
Wut.

niko_cee
02-10-2024, 09:18 PM
Geezer's a bit dark looking to be a white supremacist.

Spikey M
02-10-2024, 09:23 PM
That's what I'm "wut"ing.

Things just don't make sense anymore, do they? Are we just getting old? Is this what it always feels like? Or has the world actually just completely jumped the shark?

Shindig
02-10-2024, 09:35 PM
Makes me want to watch that Louis Theroux thing again on White Supremacist Nick Fuentes.

Magic
02-10-2024, 09:51 PM
He's probably on someone's payroll.

Jimmy Floyd
02-10-2024, 10:41 PM
That's what I'm "wut"ing.

Things just don't make sense anymore, do they? Are we just getting old? Is this what it always feels like? Or has the world actually just completely jumped the shark?

It was always mad, we just didn't have to know about it all the time.

Danny
02-10-2024, 10:58 PM
Real life Clayton Bigsby

Yevrah
03-10-2024, 06:15 AM
That's what I'm "wut"ing.

Things just don't make sense anymore, do they? Are we just getting old? Is this what it always feels like? Or has the world actually just completely jumped the shark?

As is always the case, it’s the internet.

Shindig
07-10-2024, 06:14 PM
There you go, Magic. Death by Bovid jab. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g9ve47e92o)

The disguise is ... masterful.

Magic
07-10-2024, 06:28 PM
I mean that is a pretty awesome disguise compared to his actual face.

Spikey M
07-10-2024, 06:36 PM
It's such a good disguise I thought he was a completely different race.

Lewis
07-10-2024, 06:42 PM
How do ostensibly clever people expect to get away with stupid shit like that? Retards who commit crimes you can understand their theory of mind, insofar as they are basically incapable of thinking things through, but he planned that for ages and then overlooked obvious fail points.

Danny
07-10-2024, 06:56 PM
The victim became suspicious when Ms Leung said the nurse was the same height as her son and then sought medical help.

Would have got away with it if he didnt forget the Tom Cruise lift shoes.

Shindig
07-10-2024, 06:59 PM
I kind of want to hear his Indian voice.

Ben
07-10-2024, 07:49 PM
Fucking hell. :D

SincereTheRebel
07-10-2024, 08:50 PM
There you go, Magic. Death by Bovid jab. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g9ve47e92o)

The disguise is ... masterful.

Clearly that is Zlatan.

Shindig
07-10-2024, 11:02 PM
Reading more into the plot, he had the fake ID, a fake company to buy the chemicals, forged NHS letters, had fake plates for his car ...


He had also installed spyware on his mother's computer so he could monitor the couple's activity and watch them through the in-built camera, Mr Makepeace said.

Mate, just wait for him to die of natural causes. :D

Lofty
08-10-2024, 06:12 AM
Or just go round and cook him a full english swimming in grease every weekend, soon be dead.

Spikey M
09-10-2024, 06:29 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy80ll42vj3o

Ok, so, just to clarify: Our position is that you can get a death certificate for a "baby" lost before week 24 of pregnancy, because it IS a baby.

HOWEVER

You can also have an abortion up to week 24 of pregnancy because...what... fuck 'em?

I mean, I'm pro-choice, but atleast try to be consistent.

Jimmy Floyd
09-10-2024, 06:48 AM
Our position is that we're increasingly a bunch of emotionally incontinent fucks. Talk about abandoning British values.

Yevrah
09-10-2024, 06:48 AM
“Baby loss awareness week” :sick:

Magic
09-10-2024, 07:09 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy80ll42vj3o

Ok, so, just to clarify: Our position is that you can get a death certificate for a "baby" lost before week 24 of pregnancy, because it IS a baby.

HOWEVER

You can also have an abortion up to week 24 of pregnancy because...what... fuck 'em?

I mean, I'm pro-choice, but atleast try to be consistent.

I doubt those who had a borshie would apply for one.

Spikey M
09-10-2024, 07:18 AM
I doubt those who had a borshie would apply for one.

Which raises another point. Could they?

Magic
09-10-2024, 07:26 AM
Which raises another point. Could they?

I don't see why not. Why do you care?

Spikey M
09-10-2024, 07:29 AM
I don't see why not. Why do you care?

Define care? Am I going to cry myself to sleep over it? No. Would I find a policy that allows women to have an abortion, then get a certificate so she can get all teary-eyed about the "death" of her baby on Facebook every year, particularly lol-worthy? Absolutely.

Someone ask Ian Huntley if he wants a couple of certificates while we're at it.

Magic
09-10-2024, 07:34 AM
Stop reading the Daily Mail.

Spikey M
09-10-2024, 07:35 AM
It's a BBC link m8. Top contribution as always though.

Lofty
09-10-2024, 07:53 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/08/heinz-advert-racist-stereotypes-pasta-sauce-poster-black-fathers

Bit racist to assume it wasn't a white fella who porked her ma.

niko_cee
14-10-2024, 08:36 AM
1845371932121641139

lol

The way they've left those rakes though. :nono:

Jimmy Floyd
14-10-2024, 09:12 AM
Most politically moderate golf club, etc.

Kikó
14-10-2024, 11:05 AM
I suppose that was on the 18th?

Pepe
14-10-2024, 11:12 AM
I don't get modern Jew hate. From the purple haired Palestine flag on Bio crowd I get it, with their oppression Olympics mindset, but then it is usually framed as fuck Israel. But hating Jews as a whole in 2024 is just bizarre to me.

Magic
14-10-2024, 11:15 AM
Isn't hating anyone in 2024 bizarre?

Ben
14-10-2024, 11:25 AM
I don't get modern Jew hate. From the purple haired Palestine flag on Bio crowd I get it, with their oppression Olympics mindset, but then it is usually framed as fuck Israel. But hating Jews as a whole in 2024 is just bizarre to me.

A lot of people (on both sides, as it can fit both agendas) can't seem or don't want to differentiate Jews from the State of Israel.

niko_cee
14-10-2024, 06:08 PM
Don't fuck with the bovine quadrapeds (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1l4ylpd256o)

Shindig
14-10-2024, 06:14 PM
Never introduce them to small yappy dogs. Or bubbly women.

Alex
14-10-2024, 06:50 PM
Don't fuck with the bovine quadrapeds (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1l4ylpd256o)

I know finding any part of something like this amusing isn't very nice, but this one has tested me.

"Cowz". Plus the fucking screen grab of the actual text message complete with the picture - was that necessary? :face:

Also - "The inquest continues". The inquest into what? She was trampled to death by a fucking cow.

Lewis
14-10-2024, 07:07 PM
Obviously sad for the kid (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly5p4246dgo), BUT I lolled out loud at this bit:


The prosecutor said that in the call, which lasted eight minutes and 34 seconds, Mr Sharif told the operator that he “legally punished her” and she died.

Imagine it in his stupid voice. Wo'tappened rlaight mate yeah is I push'der yeah - leegally do rlaight - an' den...

niko_cee
14-10-2024, 07:56 PM
I know finding any part of something like this amusing isn't very nice, but this one has tested me.


Yeah, I insta-smirked when reading it.

Dquincy
14-10-2024, 08:05 PM
Wtf is an an insta smirk?

niko_cee
14-10-2024, 08:07 PM
A wry smile, which I knew to be an unsympathetic reaction, at once upon reading about the demise of the poor trampled woman.

niko_cee
14-10-2024, 08:10 PM
The same sort of reaction one might have upon learning that Alex Salmond died opening a bottle of ketchup.


“He came together with Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh, also from the Alba Party in Scotland, and they were eating,” he told Times Radio.

“Later on Tasmina told me she was having trouble opening the ketchup and she reached over and said, ‘Hey, can you give me a hand?’.

“And he was helping her with that when literally he fell back in his chair, totally out of the blue, without warning.

Dquincy
14-10-2024, 08:14 PM
Thank you.

I really don't belong here, but I'll remain.

Jimmy Floyd
14-10-2024, 08:14 PM
Wonder how it feels to know that you murdered the father of the modern Scottish independence movement because you are too pathetic to open a ketchup container by yourself.

Giggles
15-10-2024, 03:46 PM
That's that all sorted so, genocide cancelled, well done lads.

1846109537754894460

Magic
15-10-2024, 04:06 PM
These queers for Palestine mobs are absolutely hilarious.

Jimmy Floyd
15-10-2024, 05:33 PM
The 'queer' space is more about conforming to certain other opinions than it is about being queer. Leninism with buttplugs.

Magic
15-10-2024, 05:40 PM
I just mean advocating for people that would most likely hang you from the nearest lamppost is quite interesting.

Jimmy Floyd
15-10-2024, 05:48 PM
Exactly.

Magic
15-10-2024, 05:49 PM
I don't see how that's Leninism but what do I know.

Jimmy Floyd
15-10-2024, 05:52 PM
Israel/Palestine is nothing if not a massive Cold War hangover, particularly when it comes to the discourse in foreign lands such as here.

Spikey M
15-10-2024, 06:06 PM
I don't see how that's Leninism but what do I know.

Wokeism is basically communism once you cut through the bullshit. Just replace the Bourgeoisie with anyone that doesn't belong to some kind of victimised sub-group and the bolsheviks with the Wokerati.

Magic
15-10-2024, 06:09 PM
I get that, but I still don't get cheering for the victimised sub-group, you know, the one that would rip your heart out in a second because their special book tells them to.

Jimmy Floyd
15-10-2024, 06:16 PM
Both things are expressing what they see as their truth against what they see as The Man, obviously it wouldn't survive first contact with Sharia law but they're safe in London so who cares.

Shindig
15-10-2024, 06:18 PM
What gets me is there's that initial curiosity to seek the nonsense out but they don't go the extra mile to challenge it. Like, Palestine should be free but, under Hamas it's still a dodgy proposition.

It's also not really our fight. We don't get to fix it.

Magic
15-10-2024, 06:34 PM
The end game here is Iran. Cut off the snake's head. Israel are just bantering around before unleashing hell. :drool:

Ben
16-10-2024, 08:58 AM
The end game here is Iran. Cut off the snake's head. Israel are just bantering around before unleashing hell. :drool:

That's how it's shaping up. Without the proxies causing just enough kerfuffle to keep the region in its usual state of flux, Iran is a massive sitting duck. I reckon once Israel feel like they've taken out enough of Hamas and Hezbollah, it's game on in Persia.

Manc
16-10-2024, 03:09 PM
Those Arabian nights hitting different in 2025.

Jimmy Floyd
16-10-2024, 03:18 PM
Shah back on the throne by Easter, Modi in the bin by June, CCP collapses some time in Q3. End of History II.

niko_cee
16-10-2024, 05:20 PM
A father hired a sex worker for his 13-year-old son then said “don’t be a p---y” when he said he did not want to have sex, a court has heard.

The man – who cannot be named to protect the boy’s identity – booked two rooms at a hotel in Bromley, south-east London, and arranged for a pair of sex workers to attend, Croydon Crown Court heard. The boy told his father he did not want to have sex with a 26-year-old.

The father also offered a line of cocaine to his son – who replied: “I’m f---ing 13, that’s ridiculous.”

The man pleaded guilty to arranging for a child to engage in sexual activity, as well as offering to supply cocaine.

Martin Ingle, prosecuting, said the man took his son to dinner then told him he had “bought a brass [prostitute]”.

When his son told him he didn’t want that, the father blamed it on the boy’s mother being “overprotective” and told him “don’t be a p---y”.

The father added that the sex workers were already in a taxi so it was too late to cancel, the court heard.

When the two women arrived the boy was taken to a separate room where a 26-year-old sex worker performed a sex act on him, the court heard.

In a police statement the boy said he did not want to do it and he was left feeling disgusted.

The father then paid the women £150 each and they left.

When the boy’s mother found out what had happened she drove her son to the police station and the father was later arrested, Mr Ingle said.

The defendant appeared in court but chose not to be represented by a barrister. He said: “I can’t have this hanging over my head, I just need it over with.”

Tony Hyams-Parish, the judge, warned him the offence has a starting point of five years and that he faces “significant” prison time.

The case was adjourned for sentencing at a later date.

RIP Bamster.

Magic
16-10-2024, 05:31 PM
I love the cocaine bit. :D

I want to know context, what happened to get them to this stage? Fascinating.

Sir Andy Mahowry
16-10-2024, 05:51 PM
Two of them as well, Jesus.

Pepe
16-10-2024, 06:03 PM
I read it as one for the kid and one for the father, hence the two rooms.

Shindig
16-10-2024, 06:15 PM
That was hilarious until the implied sex act. Like, I know prostitutes aren't known for their morals but ... can you not draw the line somewhere?

Yevrah
16-10-2024, 06:20 PM
I don't even know where to start with that story. Fuck me.

Pepe
16-10-2024, 06:32 PM
When I was in school (Google tells me I would have been 13 at the time) I was seething because I could not go to a Kiss concert my mates went to. Too expensive, my parents said. Well after the concert, the older brother of one of them (must have been in his late twenties at the time), who was in charge, took them to a brothel and got a prostitute for each of them. At the time, I wasn't sure whether to be happy or sad that I missed on that.

Magic
16-10-2024, 06:47 PM
That was hilarious until the implied sex act. Like, I know prostitutes aren't known for their morals but ... can you not draw the line somewhere?

He did draw a line.

phonics
16-10-2024, 06:51 PM
Birdman did that to Lil Wayne when he was 9 and he turned out fine outside of the depression and drug addiction that got him hospitalised multiple times to the point his heart needed restarting. Woke wins again.

My personal favourite part is "They're already in a taxi coming here, it would be rude of me not to have them rape my son"

randomlegend
16-10-2024, 07:14 PM
That story is really grim.

Presumably the prostitute is also going to be in hot water.

phonics
16-10-2024, 07:34 PM
This sort of thing and a myriad other reasons is why Prostitution is legal in Switzerland.

Spikey M
16-10-2024, 07:36 PM
I read it as one for the kid and one for the father, hence the two rooms.

Well, it would be inappropriate to share tbf.

Spikey M
16-10-2024, 07:37 PM
That was hilarious until the implied sex act. Like, I know prostitutes aren't known for their morals but ... can you not draw the line somewhere?

They do. Generally it's drawn at not being able to afford drugs.

Sir Andy Mahowry
16-10-2024, 07:43 PM
This sort of thing and a myriad other reasons is why Prostitution is legal in Switzerland.

Even for 13 year olds?

Lofty
16-10-2024, 07:54 PM
I didn't know I had a 13 year old half brother.

Shindig
16-10-2024, 07:58 PM
They do. Generally it's drawn at not being able to afford drugs.

You're right. I'm expecting too much of that institution.

phonics
16-10-2024, 08:51 PM
Even for 13 year olds?

The prostitute wasn’t 13. The prostitute could report that to the police without facing consequences.

niko_cee
17-10-2024, 09:09 AM
If you're going to be this fucking stupid (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5zn1l6g5yo) I'm not sure it's really on the state to try to help you out.

Jimmy Floyd
17-10-2024, 09:18 AM
General credulity of the masses is becoming a serious problem. We need to stop painting cynicism as a bad trait. It's a fantastic virtue.

Spikey M
17-10-2024, 09:35 AM
Scepticism is alive and well when it comes to anything an authority has to say, which does leave the door open for all sorts of bullshit. Apparently 60s style doomsday cults are making a come back too, such is the appetite for meaning in this capitalist dystopia.

Boydy
17-10-2024, 09:40 AM
Reopen the churches!

Spikey M
17-10-2024, 10:28 AM
Reopen the churches!

I do wonder how much the crumbling of Christianity in the West is to blame for many of the "identities" we have these days. Climate Change, Gender dysphoria, Veganism, you name it. They're basically just faiths with their own sets of beliefs and rules, but you kneel to St Greta of Stockholm instead of a man in a dog collar*.

*A Priest, not a Furry, although that may be a new religion too, I don't know.

Manc
17-10-2024, 10:46 AM
Off the deep end.

Jimmy Floyd
17-10-2024, 11:14 AM
He's spot on. The West = Christian civilisation and nothing else. Once it stops being about literal Christianity, then it's either about replacement belief systems that people tell themselves had superseded the real stuff, or it's about nothing and just crumbles to dust.

Lofty
17-10-2024, 04:00 PM
Those scammers are doing it wrong, just make a twitrer account claiming kids are gonna starve unless you get enough donations, then never mention it again. Every day.

niko_cee
17-10-2024, 05:22 PM
Show of hands who wants to be the next leader of Hamas . . .

Spikey M
17-10-2024, 05:31 PM
Giggles

Magic
17-10-2024, 05:36 PM
I'm sure there will be many, many hands to choose from. Plz be LGBTQ+.

Jimmy Floyd
17-10-2024, 06:25 PM
This seems to be going the same way as all previous Arab-Israeli wars.

Manc
17-10-2024, 06:48 PM
Show of hooks who wants to be the next leader of Hamas . . .

Fixed.

Lofty
17-10-2024, 07:22 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3wkzgpjxvo

Pepe
17-10-2024, 07:28 PM
That's insanity, but I guess Twitter posts are more dangerous than actual criminals now.

Spikey M
17-10-2024, 07:35 PM
That's insanity, but I guess Twitter posts are more dangerous than actual criminals now.

You don't need to do any work to convict mongs on Twitter, whereas investigating actual crime is a pain in the arse. So here we are.

niko_cee
17-10-2024, 07:41 PM
In fairness, lots of people have been locked up for 'actual crimes' related to those riots.

Fuck the first amendment. There's obliviously a high degree of exemplary punishment there, but fuck 'em, the mongs need to be deterred. This is the government of GROWTH after all. Grow the prison population. What do you mean they have to let a bunch of sex offenders out to lock these idiots up?

randomlegend
17-10-2024, 07:44 PM
Have no problem with people being properly punished for trying to incite a mob to burn people to death to be honest.

Shindig
17-10-2024, 07:50 PM
In fairness, lots of people have been locked up for 'actual crimes' related to those riots.

Fuck the first amendment. There's obliviously a high degree of exemplary punishment there, but fuck 'em, the mongs need to be deterred. This is the government of GROWTH after all. Grow the prison population. What do you mean they have to let a bunch of sex offenders out to lock these idiots up?

The first amendment is fine. It's just used incorrectly by retards who think, "I can say it." means they're also protected from the consequences. They are not and never were.

Spikey M
17-10-2024, 07:54 PM
Have no problem with people being properly punished for trying to incite a mob to burn people to death to be honest.

Nor do I really, but it only happened because they did so on camera and in footage posted on Social Media.

Now... steal a bike or rob a house and see how quickly the rozzers come for you. They won't. And that's where the argument falls apart.

Incite someone to do something? STRAIGHT TO JAIL.

Actually do something? Well, erm, do you have any video footage? No? All charges dropped.

Pepe
17-10-2024, 07:56 PM
Do you mean the American first amendment? If so, it definitely protects you from consequences, if the consequences are the government prohibiting you from "saying it."

What was the jail-worthy post btw? Surely not "mass deportation now", which is what is quoted in that article.

Lewis
17-10-2024, 07:57 PM
It seems a bit of a stretch to suggest that some sad bint posting shite on Twitter really incited anything. You wonder how many of these people have just been bounced into admitting it by the duty solicitor.

Jimmy Floyd
17-10-2024, 08:05 PM
The police (certainly outside London and the transport networks) don't do any policing these days, it's quite deliberate, they aren't resourced to do so. Little more than a statistical recording office and box ticking operation.

Surrey has the lowest crime solving rate of any force in the country, I was told the other day, it's something like 3 or 4%. They don't try and are instructed not to try.

Lofty
17-10-2024, 10:03 PM
Speaking of police investigations, here's one that's been boiling away for a while for our Essex board members: https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/woman-two-men-accused-driving-9640037

Lofty
17-10-2024, 10:05 PM
The police (certainly outside London and the transport networks) don't do any policing these days, it's quite deliberate, they aren't resourced to do so. Little more than a statistical recording office and box ticking operation.

Surrey has the lowest crime solving rate of any force in the country, I was told the other day, it's something like 3 or 4%. They don't try and are instructed not to try.

A friend of mine used to work for the BTP at Liverpool Lime St. He had a very binary view on things, and decided one month he was going to really go for it: he would issue no cautions, anyone caught breaking the law he would arrest. Made it 2 weeks before being hauled in because he was tanking the figures for their region. Said that was when he started just making cups of tea and looking for other jobs.

Lewis
18-10-2024, 08:35 AM
It seems a bit of a stretch to suggest that some sad bint posting shite on Twitter really incited anything. You wonder how many of these people have just been bounced into admitting it by the duty solicitor.


Mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, while you're at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them. I feel physically sick knowing what these families will now have to endure. If that makes me racist so be it.

Why would you admit to inciting racial hatred for that? You see stronger stuff about Israel/Palestine every day. The only explanation seems to be that they were threatening to keep people on remand for years, which would explain the weird pro-diversity remarks in the sentencing. The Rule of Law.

Spikey M
18-10-2024, 08:55 AM
I think it would be difficult to argue that "set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care" isn't racial hatred.

Giggles
18-10-2024, 08:56 AM
Should have just done a bit of paedoing instead.

Yevrah
18-10-2024, 09:33 AM
I was watching QT last night and it was a perfect example of how absolutely tone deaf the Israel/Palestine stuff is and on a wider point people in general these days. Both 'sides' of the argument are incapable of appreciating the other properly (which is intriguing given very few people who gob off on the issue actually have any proper skin in the game) and the whole thing descends into a shit off about whose behaviour is worse, which is utterly irrelevant in solving the problem, if a solution is indeed even possible.

Just awful.

Spikey M
18-10-2024, 09:44 AM
The same is true of basically everything these days. Immigration is either Open Borders or Closed Borders, Climate Change is either Burn no fossil fuels or burn all the fossil fuels, etc.

Everything is binary. No room for nuance or thought. Just pick a team and parrot the catchphrases of your team into the void.

Yevrah
18-10-2024, 09:46 AM
Indeed. It makes the Henry vs RvN debates of yesteryear on here look genuinely balanced.

SvN
18-10-2024, 09:53 AM
The same is true of basically everything these days. Immigration is either Open Borders or Closed Borders, Climate Change is either Burn no fossil fuels or burn all the fossil fuels, etc.

Everything is binary. No room for nuance or thought. Just pick a team and parrot the catchphrases of your team into the void.

Add League 1 Manager of the Month Steve Bruce's managerial prowess to the list.

Sir Andy Mahowry
18-10-2024, 01:35 PM
https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2024-10-17/bomb-squad-called-after-wwi-shell-brought-to-church-coffee-morning

I wonder who would have been blamed had it gone off...

Pepe
18-10-2024, 01:48 PM
Has one of those old bombs ever gone off?

Magic
18-10-2024, 02:03 PM
"military enthusiasts"... :sick:

Shindig
18-10-2024, 06:02 PM
Has one of those old bombs ever gone off?

As recently as a couple of weeks ago. (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/02/buried-us-second-world-war-bomb-explodes-at-japanese-miyazaki-airport)

Dark Soldier
18-10-2024, 06:13 PM
My mate was cleaning out his dad's old canal boat after he passed, and found a fucking grenade in there. Made the BBC news. Happens so much it's insane.

Dquincy
18-10-2024, 07:38 PM
Has one of those old bombs ever gone off?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68787845

If this one goes off, Spikey and me are done for.

niko_cee
18-10-2024, 08:17 PM
Just blow the fucking thing up. All the money they'll waste on surveyors and other experts will dwarf whatever the cost of sending a tsunami into whichever shithole ends up in the [non-existent] firing line. Is it Clacton? Could we wipe Clacton off the map?

Expert in risk management ffs, strap him to the bomb.

Spikey M
18-10-2024, 08:35 PM
Just blow the fucking thing up. All the money they'll waste on surveyors and other experts will dwarf whatever the cost of sending a tsunami into whichever shithole ends up in the [non-existent] firing line. Is it Clacton? Could we wipe Clacton off the map?

Expert in risk management ffs, strap him to the bomb.

Shoeburyness (an explosion would improve the place) and Thorpe Bay (full of rich cunts). I am in favour of the motion.

Clacton is a long way away but would also benefit from an explosion.

Kikó
19-10-2024, 05:58 AM
Add League 1 Manager of the Month Steve Bruce's managerial prowess to the list.

Speaking of which https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/oct/18/blackpool-steve-bruce-to-miss-barnsley-match-four-month-old-grandson-dies

Manc
19-10-2024, 02:36 PM
Dquincy

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/oct/19/im-33-and-my-husband-is-77-this-is-why-our-relationship-works

Jimmy Floyd
19-10-2024, 02:55 PM
Pretty amazing how he can write all that self-indulgent pap and then in the penultimate paragraph refer to late capitalism as being somehow against him. Late capitalism, my darling, is the reason you are able to write all that euphemistic dreck in a major publication without being sent to some kind of gulag. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Dquincy
19-10-2024, 07:56 PM
Dquincy

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/oct/19/im-33-and-my-husband-is-77-this-is-why-our-relationship-works

Am I giving off old man queer vibes?

Spikey M
19-10-2024, 07:57 PM
No. Young twink vibes.

niko_cee
21-10-2024, 08:18 AM
What with the king being shouted at by some hysterical woman in Australia (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c79n20r750po), why is it that the most shrill 'indigenous activists' are often ostensibly white people?

And in other weird ethno-separatist news how am I only now learning that the Cornish have been some sort of protected minority in the UK for the past 10 years? My mum is from Cornwall, maybe I'll go down and berate the king in the style above the next time he's down there.

Jimmy Floyd
21-10-2024, 08:22 AM
There's an epidemic of white people cosplaying as non-white in American academia. Brain disease, I think they call it. It's long been time for western culture to reassert itself over these people. You got conquered because you were fucking useless and we're better, as you prove by living like westerners now rather than sitting around in the wilderness waiting for the spirits to point you to which wild animal you should lob a tree branch at next. Deal with it. Oh and this post refers to Cornwall, lest anyone think I am racist.

Spikey M
21-10-2024, 08:44 AM
White women, for the most part.

Lewis
21-10-2024, 03:59 PM
In Australia in order to be considered an indigenous fella you need to be able to demonstrate ('prove' might be too strong) some ancestry, and then get the local tribe, who obviously benefit from increased numbers, to accept your claim. Then you are in, and you can apply for all sorts of stuff. Whenever you see some story like 'First Indigenous *profession*', it's always some guy with my skin tone who lived a perfectly normal suburban life until university.

Who was that pasty cricketer who said he was indigenous, and the only experience of racism he could come up with was people not believing him?

niko_cee
21-10-2024, 04:27 PM
Part of me thinks Jason Gillespie might have claimed/had some sort of indigenous origin.

Yeah, here we go:


Jason Gillespie is a descendant on his father's side of the Kamilaroi people of Indigenous Australians, and is the first acknowledged Aboriginal male to become a Test cricketer.

His dad:

https://img1.hscicdn.com/image/upload/f_auto,t_ds_w_1280,q_70/lsci/db/PICTURES/CMS/142500/142582.2.jpg

Jimmy Floyd
21-10-2024, 10:10 PM
On a similar note, check out all the black faces at the 'Black Lives Matter' protest for Chris Kaba. Whiter than a polar bear in Narnia.

Shindig
21-10-2024, 10:24 PM
Is the Aussie woman's fur coat some kind of cultural appropriation as well? Is she part-mink?

Spikey M
22-10-2024, 07:24 AM
This Chris Kaba stuff is peak silly bollocks. How did that even end up in court? Every police officer should just quit.

Baz
22-10-2024, 07:35 AM
I don’t know where else to post this but felt the need to vent my amusement. There’s a brother and sister on the school run. She’s called Cayenne, he’s called Brian.

Jimmy Floyd
22-10-2024, 11:07 AM
The more you read into this Chris Kaba case, the more mental it is that there was ever a criminal charge brought. Would like to think that things might be different today now that the full-on insanity of the BLM era is fading.


Mr Kaba's cousin Sheeda Queen said the family was "devastated" by the outcome.

"The acquittal of Martyn Blake isn't just a failure for our family but for all those affected by police violence," she said. "Despite the verdict, we won't be silenced."

You need it, don't you, Sheeda? The police violence. Without it, you'd have to face up to reality.

Jimmy Floyd
22-10-2024, 11:20 AM
I'm probably being hard on Sheeda there. The real bad guys are the campaigning lawyers using her and people like her as sock puppets.

niko_cee
22-10-2024, 11:36 AM
The CPS charging meeting must have been quite lol.

"Erm, he's tried to run a copper over and the other firearms guy says he was about to shoot him himself."

Yeah, but, you see, black lives matter . . .

Wait, he'd also shot someone himself in the days immediately prior?

:happycry:

Jimmy Floyd
22-10-2024, 11:39 AM
I don't really know much about the internal workings of the CPS but can only think there must have been unreal levels of political pressure/influence on it, probably from our old pal the mayor.

Spikey M
22-10-2024, 12:00 PM
I honestly don't know how the police put up with it. I'd have quit long before this. Talk about a thankless job.

Lofty
22-10-2024, 12:21 PM
The other problem is the profitability of talking bollocks about these issues. There's people on twitter going mad about the verdict who have previously wanted the police to raid the houses of people who disagreed with them on twitter :moop:

Jimmy Floyd
22-10-2024, 01:00 PM
Deborah Coles, director of charity Inquest, said: “It is difficult to reconcile the verdict with the evidence heard at the trial and the shocking reality of an unarmed black man being shot in the head.

“It is clear from our work that when the police kill, they seek to operate above the law.

“This verdict must not now be used by the police lobby to further dilute police accountability.

“We know that Chris’s death is not an isolated case but part of systemic racism and stereotyping that equates black men with dangerousness.

“For decades, black men have disproportionately been killed by the police.

“However, the conviction of one police officer does not stop the violence, racism and misogyny entrenched in police culture and practice.

“Real justice and accountability is when the deaths and harms of policing stop.

“To achieve this, we must urgently redirect resources away from police and into communities.”

I'm trying to construct the world that this idiot imagines she's living in. Calling him 'unarmed' when he was trying to run people over with an enormous car is outrageous, for a start.

niko_cee
22-10-2024, 01:06 PM
Member of a gang, lengthy record, implicated in a shooting immediately prior, trying to run police officers over. Sometimes you've got to say there's some personal responsibility at play here.

It doesn't help, I don't think, that people don't generally appreciate that armed officers are trained to shoot to kill, for the very reason that they should only shoot if they think there is an imminent threat to life. This wasn't some random yankee style stop and search execution.

Pepe
22-10-2024, 01:13 PM
The world she is living in is one that pays her and her ilk a lot of money to repeat that shit over and over. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Actually, hate both, fucking grifters.

Spikey M
22-10-2024, 02:10 PM
What's particularly fucked is that the media were banned from reporting what a piece of shit the deceased is, but they were perfectly able to bang on about institutional racism within the policeforce. The Officer involved will in all likelihood lose his job regardless now, even if it is via a sideways step into another (non-frontline) job, because he will be treated as if he was guilty anyway, such is the level of earth salting that went on.

He should demand an inquest into the decision to prosecute really.

Yevrah
22-10-2024, 02:21 PM
Have these SJW's responded to the fact he shot someone in the run up to his death? I ask because how does that reconcile with this?


We know that Chris’s death is not an isolated case but part of systemic racism and stereotyping that equates black men with dangerousness

I mean, in this case, it seems clear as day that he absolutely was.

Deborah Coles could really do with the Andrew Neil treatment.

Jimmy Floyd
22-10-2024, 02:43 PM
Sadiq made this tweet when the officer was referred to prosecutors in March 2023 (not charged, that was later):


My thoughts are with Chris Kaba’s loved ones today. His death has had a huge impact on Londoners, and in particular Black Londoners. Anger, pain and fear has been felt across communities, along with a desire for change and justice.

If the fucking mayor is saying that before you've even been charged with anything, how can there ever be justice? And of course Sadiq must have known full well that CK was a bad guy at the time he tweeted that as well.

niko_cee
22-10-2024, 05:25 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx252v6l60lo

This is something that needs to be addressed as a matter of urgency given the state of the population. Keep sticking it to the old.

Pepe
22-10-2024, 05:46 PM
Driving in your nineties should definitely not be a thing.

Alex
22-10-2024, 06:10 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx252v6l60lo

This is something that needs to be addressed as a matter of urgency given the state of the population. Keep sticking it to the old.


There is no legal age to stop driving in the UK and Mrs Duncan had renewed her driving licence earlier in the year.

Yeah, fuck that. The fact you can presumably just fill a form in to renew your driving licence, totally unchecked, at such an advanced age is absolutely insane.

Fuck taking a "cognitive test" or whatever as well. If you want to keep driving at that age you can pass your test again or hand the license over. Although I imagine the line of driving instructors who would be willing to take the doddering old cunts out for re-testing would be a very small one.

niko_cee
22-10-2024, 06:16 PM
Just get them to do a lap of the top gear test track seeing as it's no longer in use. Could send them off 6 at a time for extra lolz, only the top 3 get their licences renewed.

Shindig
22-10-2024, 06:58 PM
Saw a bloke tip his electric wheelchair just getting on the bus today. Took three people ('cos I'm mostly useless in these situations) to get him upright. His head was bleeding but the old fella wanted nowt to do with an ambulance. There's a stubbornness with the old that you need to conquer to stop them driving.

Dquincy
22-10-2024, 08:07 PM
Sadiq made this tweet when the officer was referred to prosecutors in March 2023 (not charged, that was later):



If the fucking mayor is saying that before you've even been charged with anything, how can there ever be justice? And of course Sadiq must have known full well that CK was a bad guy at the time he tweeted that as well.

Even if Sadiq didn't know the back story of the deceased fella, that is a mental statement by him.

Lewis
22-10-2024, 08:16 PM
I'm trying to construct the world that this idiot imagines she's living in. Calling him 'unarmed' when he was trying to run people over with an enormous car is outrageous, for a start.

The simple explanation is that these people are pro-crime, especially when black people are doing the crimes, because they can only conceive of crime being down to a comparative lack of opportunities. Until the Chris Kabas of the world have every opportunity afforded to them, their crimes are entirely natural and rational, and anyone/thing attempting to stop them is oppressive.

Jimmy Floyd
22-10-2024, 08:29 PM
Where does it end? Is the black Levi Bellfield (or the white one, for that matter) doing his crimes because of a lack of opportunity? Or is shooting people in nightclubs OK because of racism, but raping and dismembering women isn't? We need a clear set of guidelines.

Jimmy Floyd
23-10-2024, 12:00 PM
The BBC coverage of the story today is led by this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3dvdmzxz82o

Feels like a proper sand-shifting moment to me in terms of a fundamental rupture taking place between the hoi polloi and normal people.

Pepe
23-10-2024, 12:24 PM
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndoh/pr/blm-activist-sentenced-prison-wire-fraud-and-money-laundering


Sir Maejor Page, 35, of Toledo, has been sentenced to 42 months in prison by U.S. District Judge Jeffrey Helmick after a jury convicted him of wire fraud and money laundering for defrauding donors of more than $450,000 that they collectively gave to his nonprofit “Black Lives Matter of Greater Atlanta” (BLM of Greater Atlanta) based on Page’s false representations. He was also ordered to pay a $400 special assessment fee.


Page used the donations to BLM for his own personal benefit. He purchased entertainment, hotel rooms, clothing, firearms, and a property that he intended to use as his personal residence. He attempted to conceal the purchase of the property by using the name “Hi Frequency Ohio” and asked the seller to sign a nondisclosure agreement that would have prevented the seller from listing Page as the actual buyer.

:harold:

Lofty
24-10-2024, 05:16 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd7n3zyp114o

I like the Vaping association's comment at the end that children will be turned to the black market, like it's not the fact they are so readily available in the first place that's the issue.

Bam
24-10-2024, 05:22 AM
The government plans to introduce legislation to ban the sale of disposable vapes from 1 June 2025, allowing retailers time to sell their remaining stock.

Let the kids carry on until stock runs out???

Spikey M
24-10-2024, 05:31 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd7n3zyp114o

I like the Vaping association's comment at the end that children will be turned to the black market, like it's not the fact they are so readily available in the first place that's the issue.

I like the fact that a black market springing up is used as a reason not to ban something.

Where does that logic end? Organ Transplants? FGM? Suicide? Rape? All illegal. All have black markets. Would the Vaping Association support the legalisation of these practices?

Ben
24-10-2024, 06:55 AM
I thought they were supposed to be banning flavours as well? Kids will soon stop when it doesn't taste like their favourite pick 'n mix.

niko_cee
24-10-2024, 01:23 PM
Michael Buerk laying the smack down:


He said on Radio 4's Today show: "I think it's really different. I'm looking at television in particular... There was more of an appetite for seriousness."

He went onto explain his point: "It was only last week I think this programme decided that the most important thing that happened in the world was that a drugged-up faded boyband singer had fallen off a balcony.

"Even the 10 o'clock news which normally are good on these things thought it was the second most important thing that had happened in the world.

"And I think there was a wider agenda or wider appetite if you look at the news these days, they seem to be hammering away at the same half dozen stories. While whole continents go unmentioned for month after month."

Someone call 999.

:cool:

niko_cee
25-10-2024, 03:39 PM
Have I missed this (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx245q4nyyet) prior to today because it was not being reported on, due to obvious reasons, or have I just not been paying attention? Fucking hell. Sharpen your shanks prisoners of wherever he ends up.

Baz
25-10-2024, 04:48 PM
Probably Henry’s mate.

Jimmy Floyd
25-10-2024, 05:09 PM
Out for another crack in 2044.

niko_cee
25-10-2024, 05:34 PM
2039, but I doubt he'll ever be released/ever not be viewed as a threat to the public.

Shindig
25-10-2024, 05:56 PM
As the shanks get sharpened, he'll transition whilst in prison.

Yevrah
25-10-2024, 06:11 PM
It took him 4 days from making contact to drive that girl to suicide. Ah, the internet.

Lofty
25-10-2024, 08:41 PM
Why shank him when you can kettle him over and over again.

Spikey M
26-10-2024, 08:11 AM
I saw a documentary on this happening in Korea a few years ago, and they have thousands of him over there. It's insane.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/outrage-in-south-korea-over-telegram-sexual-abuse-ring-blackmailing-women-and-girls

Shindig
26-10-2024, 08:28 AM
Cheese heist. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cje03dq2pyyo)


Westcombe Dairy's maturing cave is equipped with cheddar-turning robot, nicknamed Tina the Turner.

Maturing cave sounds like a Bond villain hideout. Or a retirement home.

niko_cee
26-10-2024, 10:09 AM
Patrick Holden, who owns the farm where Hafod Cheddar is made, added: "It might sound naive to fall victim to a scam, but the truth is that the artisan cheese world is a place where trust is deeply embedded in all transactions.

:happycry:

Pepe
26-10-2024, 10:46 AM
So can we expect to see people selling cheese from the trunks of their cars soon? Sorry, high-end cheese.

Spikey M
26-10-2024, 10:48 AM
So can we expect to see people selling cheese from the trunks of their cars soon? Sorry, high-end cheese.

I once went to a pub where a man was selling meat and cheese from his coat pockets. I assume he had just robbed it and needed the money for some gear.

Shindig
26-10-2024, 11:01 AM
The perfect crime as well. They can just eat the evidence if the police close in. Assuming they haven't sold it to another trustworthy cheese place.

Jimmy Floyd
26-10-2024, 12:02 PM
'The artisan cheese world is a place where trust is deeply embedded in all transactions' is one of the great quotes of our time. Absolutely perfect.

Jimmy Floyd
26-10-2024, 03:13 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c207m3m0xpjo

Why are we giving these mooks the time of day? Why do we give a fuck what St Kitts and Nevis think about the slave trade?

3 of the top 10 slave holding countries today are in the commonwealth of course and none of them is the UK.

Lewis
26-10-2024, 03:20 PM
They should be paying us.

Lofty
26-10-2024, 04:38 PM
Can't wait to get our reparations from Italy and Norway :drool:

Spikey M
28-10-2024, 12:26 PM
1850818595032367399?t=xrmE4J8S8YEC-9Qn01dG3A&s=19

What?

niko_cee
29-10-2024, 08:39 AM
In similar paedo news, I'm all for this AI paedo getting locked up, but where is the logical limit of this stuff? If I draw a really realistic picture of some naked child is that a crime? If AI generates something in the style of a renaissance master which has naked children, is that a crime? This is straight out of Brass Eye again, isn't it? Yep, 16:54 in the paedo special.

Kikó
29-10-2024, 08:52 AM
https://www.404media.co/email/bdb85ae5-d347-4521-8920-688059d94faf/ this was a pretty interesting read about why AI CSAM isn't a victimless crime.

And yes you should be locked up.

Shindig
29-10-2024, 09:07 AM
My understanding is AI pulls from existing images.

Spikey M
29-10-2024, 09:09 AM
In similar paedo news, I'm all for this AI paedo getting locked up, but where is the logical limit of this stuff? If I draw a really realistic picture of some naked child is that a crime? If AI generates something in the style of a renaissance master which has naked children, is that a crime? This is straight out of Brass Eye again, isn't it? Yep, 16:54 in the paedo special.

The line should probably be drawn at sexual gratification, which I imagine it already is. That's why it's not illegal to have a picture of your baby enjoying a bath, but it's illegal to send it some guy on the Internet.

niko_cee
29-10-2024, 09:11 AM
And neatly allowing for the research purposes defence.

niko_cee
29-10-2024, 09:14 AM
The CCP rightly takes a lot of flack but even authoritarian lunatics get it right (https://news.sky.com/story/halloween-crackdown-in-shanghai-as-chinese-police-arrest-people-in-costume-13243452) sometimes.

Jimmy Floyd
29-10-2024, 04:07 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c05zpdq0lzgo

Justice for those who said it was a Muslim.

Ben
29-10-2024, 04:10 PM
Don't bury the lead. The guy was cooking ricin like he's Walter White.

Spikey M
29-10-2024, 04:16 PM
It really does come to something when we should be grateful that he only murdered a few kids. :|

Jimmy Floyd
29-10-2024, 04:26 PM
If they carry on duping the public like this they're going to cause themselves a serious problem, if they haven't already. They really need to decouple virtue from the imagined fortunes of 'communities'.

Lofty
29-10-2024, 04:30 PM
I mean when they are bang to rights guilty like this or the mega nonce what is the actual argument against just executing the cunts?

randomlegend
29-10-2024, 04:48 PM
Who draws the line on "bang to rights guilty"?

Spikey M
29-10-2024, 04:48 PM
I mean when they are bang to rights guilty like this or the mega nonce what is the actual argument against just executing the cunts?

He'd have a grifter claiming he was a good church going boy that is facing brutality from the prison guards within the hour.

niko_cee
29-10-2024, 05:42 PM
Who draws the line on "bang to rights guilty"?

This is where it breaks down if you want a non-arbitrary [aka "fair"] system.

Should that Letby woman, for example, be launched into space? I feel people would be less comfortable with that than, say, melting the dad of that Sara girl who was recently battered to death, even though on the balance sheet of evil maybe her crimes are worse?

Spikey M
29-10-2024, 06:00 PM
I oppose the death penalty purely because I don't trust those in power with the power to kill citizens. They have proven that they will cheat, lie and steal to achieve what they want, I have no doubt they'd be very happy to add kill to that list.

Shindig
29-10-2024, 06:11 PM
Counter Terrorism Police have not declared the matter a terrorist incident.

What was it, then? Research for a book?

Lewis
29-10-2024, 06:13 PM
I think you could safely neck people where there is absolutely zero chance it wasn't them, i.e. this lad who killed those kids, that Muslim bloke who stabbed his ex to death in the street, or that copper who killed that woman. The mere ninety-nine per centers like Lucy Letby would likely not meet the threshold.

Yevrah
30-10-2024, 12:16 AM
If they carry on duping the public like this they're going to cause themselves a serious problem, if they haven't already. They really need to decouple virtue from the imagined fortunes of 'communities'.

They have already and it's a serious problem that will ultimately end up ushering in the far right, as it has/is all over Europe.

Yevrah
30-10-2024, 12:18 AM
Oh and the death penalty is barbaric and a civilised country simply shouldn't be doing it, even before you get to the 99%/100% issue. It's also a fairly useless deterrent.

Lewis
30-10-2024, 12:38 AM
It's a completely non-existent deterrent. Its purpose is rubbing out murdering filth after the fact.

Lofty
30-10-2024, 07:33 AM
Oh and the death penalty is barbaric and a civilised country simply shouldn't be doing it, even before you get to the 99%/100% issue. It's also a fairly useless deterrent.

It might not be a deterrent but if someone gets caught interfering with children are we really supposed to waste time and money 'helping' them then crossing our fingers they wont do it again?

Baz
30-10-2024, 08:02 AM
You could say that about every crime.

Shindig
30-10-2024, 08:05 AM
On average, the wait for execution in America is over a decade. You don't cut incarceration out of the process.

Lofty
30-10-2024, 08:14 AM
You could say that about every crime.

Yes but some crimes are more serious than others, I'm not advocating for executing people nicking freddos or siphoning fuel.

Yevrah
30-10-2024, 08:16 AM
It might not be a deterrent but if someone gets caught interfering with children are we really supposed to waste time and money 'helping' them then crossing our fingers they wont do it again?

Helping them or not isn’t the issue, there just shouldn’t be state sponsored killings of citizens. It’s eye for an eye shit that should be left in medieval times.

Spikey M
30-10-2024, 08:34 AM
You could say that about every crime.

You could, but it sounds a bit more ridiculous when you're talking about littering.

niko_cee
30-10-2024, 08:53 AM
The deterrent effect is much stronger if you impose capital punishment for trivial offences.

Jimmy Floyd
30-10-2024, 10:03 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2dqd2yy5do

Russians getting busy again I see.

John Arne
30-10-2024, 10:10 AM
Apologies for interrupting the whole death penalty stuff... some news from Vietnam.

It looks more likely that the Gov is going to waste money and build a north-south high speed rail from Hanoi to Ho Chi Minh City.
- Current train takes 30hrs (or 2hr flight, 40 per day) and is dirt cheap. New train would still be 5.5hrs
- 1700km
- Estimated cost back in 2006 was $33m USD, 2010 cost of $55m finalized and rejected
- 2024 Vietnam turned to China, but then decided to fund the new line entirely by themselves, at an estimated cost of $67bn (16.5% of GDP)
- Project to start in 2026 and complete in 2035 (it won't).

Firstly, we don't need it - flying is relatively quick, easy and cheap - and a 5.5hr train journey just won't sell enough high value tickets to make any money outside of lunar new year.
Secondly, the money would be much better spent building an actual metro in both cities. In my city of Ho Chi Minh City, we have 11m people and our FIRST metro line was due to complete in 2014... it's opening later this year, 10 years late and only one line so far. Traffic is fucked in this city nowadays.

Spikey M
30-10-2024, 06:56 PM
I'm not sure how this passed me by until now and I'm even more not sure why Right Said Fred appears to be a news outlet now, but the flooding in Valencia looks absolutely mental.

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Kikó
30-10-2024, 07:58 PM
What's right said Fred and Melville attributing it to? The Jews? Space lasers? Government weather control?

Spikey M
30-10-2024, 08:22 PM
No idea, just the top 3 tweets from the Valencia trending page.

Have they (he?) become Far Right Fred then?

Shindig
30-10-2024, 08:35 PM
Richard Fairbrass went anti-vax during Covid. He wound up on oxygen.

Ben
30-10-2024, 08:45 PM
One year's worth of rain in 4 hours apparently. Insane.

Jimmy Floyd
30-10-2024, 08:51 PM
What would it take for 90+ to die in floods here? I can't remember even double figures being reached in my lifetime.

niko_cee
30-10-2024, 08:56 PM
It would take the industrial revolution and subsequent building of modern society to have not happened.

Spikey M
31-10-2024, 11:44 AM
I see we have a case of the DEADLY RacistPox in London.

A return to lockdowns and Magic being a retard again on the cards.

Sir Andy Mahowry
31-10-2024, 11:49 AM
Don't forget Yev's battle with SCIENCE.

Yevrah
31-10-2024, 12:17 PM
I mean, I won that a long time ago. The South African variant that was supposedly going to see us all frothing at the mouth was the final nail.

Pepe
31-10-2024, 12:42 PM
What would it take for 90+ to die in floods here? I can't remember even double figures being reached in my lifetime.

British water seems more interested in taking its (female) victims one at a time as opposed to showing off with a sporadic massive flood.

Magic
31-10-2024, 12:49 PM
What would it take for 90+ to die in floods here? I can't remember even double figures being reached in my lifetime.

I wondered that too. Apparently most of the people that died were in cars.

Spikey M
31-10-2024, 12:51 PM
I wondered that too. Apparently most of the people that died were in cars.

Being stuck in a car that's slowly filling with water, unable to open the doors or windows must be a top 10 worst way to die.

Magic
31-10-2024, 12:54 PM
Being stuck in a car that's slowly filling with water, unable to open the doors or windows must be a top 10 worst way to die.

Just below being assessed for work by Shinners whilst dying of cancer.

Kikó
31-10-2024, 01:57 PM
Being stuck in a car that's slowly filling with water, unable to open the doors or windows must be a top 10 worst way to die.

I guess the Chinese balloon makes up the other 9.

Shindig
31-10-2024, 07:18 PM
Just below being assessed for work by Shinners whilst dying of cancer.

Woah, woah, woah. Work capability assessments are not part of my job. Yet.

Ben
02-11-2024, 02:22 PM
The Valencia floods have been handled awfully. Apparently the response was pathetic so there was some protests and the government responded by sending 500 more troops. This then kicked off more protests for being such a rubbish response, so 12 hours later they've upped it to 10,000...

Magic
02-11-2024, 02:41 PM
North Korea sending any over?

Lofty
02-11-2024, 02:50 PM
They also turned down an offer of 200 French Firefighters.

Spikey M
02-11-2024, 06:37 PM
A good decision at last.

Waffdon
03-11-2024, 01:07 AM
There’s a video going about on Twitter where a man picks up someone’s decapitated head thinking it’s a Halloween costume. (Well, assuming that’s what they thought anyway)

Police reporting a road traffic accident but I’m not so sure. Looks like a clean cut with a fucking sword or something. Right beside one of the most lively areas in Edinburgh

Dark Soldier
03-11-2024, 01:11 AM
Baz'll be wanking to that shortly.

Waffdon
03-11-2024, 01:15 AM
Nvm there’s a close up of his head with tyre marks all over it. Nice way to go out