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Don
29-02-2024, 06:11 PM
Israel on top form.

Spikey M
29-02-2024, 06:43 PM
Attacking civilians attending a humanitarian aid effort. That's unarguably a war crime, right?

Jimmy Floyd
29-02-2024, 06:47 PM
They went past the war crime threshold months ago. Hopefully uncle sam is about to pull the plug.

Lewis
29-02-2024, 07:05 PM
Some of the context. This stuff will run deep. For example, people arriving from war zones. Can they be expected to immediately become functioning members of society? Are we to discount the years, of no blacks, no dogs, no Irishmen? "Fuck that, you're equal now, catch up ffs".

There will be loads of shit factoring in that we haven't even began to consider.

Then there's the issue of our biggest net-drain. The Super Rich, buying everything, driving up prices, suppressing wages and hiding their cash however they can to avoid paying tax.

But no. No, it's the blacks that are wrong.

How long do we give them? The outcomes of Caribbean blacks are largely shit across the board, and they have been here for seventy years. Same for Pakistanis and Bengalis. Not so much in China, or in parts of India and Nigeria. Outcomes that tend to mirror the outcomes in their own countries, funnily enough. China must have fewer tower blocks than Jamaica.

All I'm asking for is a bit of selection in who we let in, and expecting foreigners to earn substantially more than the native population/not be a financial burden is not an unreasonable place to start.

Giggles
29-02-2024, 07:36 PM
Attacking civilians attending a humanitarian aid effort. That's unarguably a war crime, right?

Have they not been at those for months?

Disco
29-02-2024, 07:54 PM
Decades really but this is a particularly monstrous example of their fuckery.

Yevrah
01-03-2024, 10:08 AM
Amazing milestone for humanity hit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-68436642

Obviously we'd need to deduct the people who have positive body image to get the actual number, which might mean we're still some way short of the 1bn.

Ben
01-03-2024, 10:10 AM
Sugar tax working well.

Disco
01-03-2024, 10:21 AM
Prices are up so yes it is.

Spikey M
01-03-2024, 10:23 AM
I started reading this (https://www.waterstones.com/book/ultra-processed-people/chris-van-tulleken/9781529900057) a while ago and it's eye opening.

Blaming it on sugar and implementing sugar taxes is part of the problem. Sugar is the tip of the iceberg. The issue is that our eating culture has completely changed over the last 60 years, from meat and 2 veg, to processed foods.

Our bodies are wired to stop eating when we are full, and it works when you have a steak, potato and some greens, because it's hard to eat 1000 calories of that. It's piss easy to eat 1000 calories of Chicago Town pizza, microwave lasagne, etc. So we do. And they make sure we do, by making it addictive.

It's just one more evil of Western culture. Nothing to see here.

If they wanted to fix it, they'd ban it and go back to whole foods. But money printer go brrrrrrrrr. So, yeah. Enjoy the diabetes.

Spikey M
01-03-2024, 10:29 AM
Also, what the Yanks have done to Polynesia since WW2 is... I don't know what the word is. Evil doesn't do it justice.

Boydy
01-03-2024, 10:37 AM
I could easily eat 1,000 calories of steak, potatoes and veg.

Boydy
01-03-2024, 10:39 AM
But I take your overall point. And we all work so much (probably sat at desks) that people struggle to find time to fit any exercise in.

Don
01-03-2024, 10:41 AM
I love the "healthy food is too expensive" argument. You ain't priced out of healthy food, you disgusting piece of shit, you have an unhealthy relationship with food due to not being educated properly/childhood trauma.

Boydy
01-03-2024, 10:46 AM
Time is another factor in cooking healthy food too. Recently I've been making big pots of soup that last me about three days. But all the prep for that takes me maybe 45 minutes to an hour. And then cooking time of at least half an hour, maybe an hour. Imagine you were feeding a family and having to do that every night.

Disco
01-03-2024, 10:47 AM
Best thing I did was get out of (ie made redundant from) my office job and into something where I'm on my feet for most of the day. No reason not to eat sensibly either way though but if all you're raised on is potato smileys and extra chips in a bun then you don't know any better.

Spikey M
01-03-2024, 10:55 AM
Imagine you were feeding a family and having to do that every night.

We do, and Taz is largely right. We eat shite because we eat shite. It's cultural at this point. Something like 80% of all the food we eat is made by 5 companies and it's all processed shite. Cereal being marketed as healthy for example, because they've added some vitamins. Meanwhile, the recommended serving is about 2 tablespoons worth and kids eat 10 servings at a time because nobody actually weighs it and they know this.

We have made a conscious effort to change it and the kids rarely eat this stuff any more. We haven't completely removed it, obviously, we don't want to be hated, but they eat far less crap now. Meanwhile Me and the wife have pretty much stopped entirely. Batch cooking is indeed the answer. Chilli, curry, Taz's favourite Sheperd's Pie. Just find a recipe and make it in bulk. It's not that hard.

Jimmy Floyd
01-03-2024, 11:10 AM
This is another casualty of feminism.

Lofty
01-03-2024, 11:18 AM
I would argue eating healthy is partly prohibited by cost, because if you look at the bargain tier shops (I'm talking Home Bargains, B&M etc) people seem to do full shops in there but it's a lot more processed stuff, even when they do have fresh, frozen etc it is quite limited in selection unless you are at one of their huge stores.

People say Aldi is a bargain but we swapped from Asda to Aldi this week as an experiment and they came in at the same price including the fact Asda was delivered.

Also we are a household of two adults who cook meals from scratch and look to make 4 portions and use 2 portions as lunch the following day, both of us find it is hard to try the old 'reduce meat in the recipe to save money' trick without it resulting in feeling hungry quickly after lunch from the protein shortfall.

randomlegend
01-03-2024, 12:07 PM
When you reduce the meat what are you replacing it with?

niko_cee
01-03-2024, 12:31 PM
Beyond mince is better than actual mince, although is probably worse for you and the environment.

People should just eat more beans. Beans are great.

randomlegend
01-03-2024, 12:59 PM
Yeah I generally swap in beans or lentils to replace meat. Black beluga lentils are my favourite and have almost as much protein per 100g as beef, although admittedly they are more expensive than standard lentils.

Boydy
01-03-2024, 01:04 PM
I use beans and lentils quite a lot too. Usually chickpeas, butterbeans or red lentils. Must branch out into more types of lentils.

Giggles
01-03-2024, 03:34 PM
Butter beans are great in so much stuff.

Baz
01-03-2024, 04:06 PM
https://y.yarn.co/8ef1e732-ee7b-4dd4-a092-ab0a1dd21541_text.gif

randomlegend
01-03-2024, 04:25 PM
https://y.yarn.co/8ef1e732-ee7b-4dd4-a092-ab0a1dd21541_text.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCpzp-j58dY

Butterbean has not been OK :(

(This video is genuinely quite heartwarming and a good watch).

Lewis
01-03-2024, 05:29 PM
The reason people in the olden days were thinner is because they either worked harder (physically-speaking) and/or couldn't afford to eat as much as we do. People in the seventies lived on red meat, bread, milk, and sugar, which was rationed during the darkest days of the Second World War in larger amounts than the government currently recommends you consume every day. Plus literally every other person smoked.

Giggles
01-03-2024, 05:36 PM
Aaaaah smoking. I so miss that.

Spikey M
01-03-2024, 05:38 PM
The reason people in the olden days were thinner is because they either worked harder (physically-speaking) and/or couldn't afford to eat as much as we do. People in the seventies lived on red meat, bread, milk, and sugar, which was rationed during the darkest days of the Second World War in larger amounts than the government currently recommends you consume every day. Plus literally every other person smoked.

If that were the case poor people would be thin and rich people would be fat. The opposite is true.

Jimmy Floyd
01-03-2024, 05:46 PM
Are you saying that the Fat Cats (who earn the Bankers Bonuses) are actually skinny dweebs?

Spikey M
01-03-2024, 06:22 PM
For the most part, sure. Although you might get some fat messes with no excuse for it. Obesity is the disease of the poor.

Lewis
01-03-2024, 06:24 PM
If that were the case poor people would be thin and rich people would be fat. The opposite is true.

The poor people of today have access to much cheaper food than even comparatively wealthy olden days people, and eat too much of it whilst not working strenuous jobs and/or smoking. It's not 'ultra-processed food' doing them in.

Shindig
01-03-2024, 06:26 PM
I was out in the park last weekend and it's come to my attention parents don't play footy with their kids any more. That's now granddad's territory. Or they leave the kid to do it themselves, if they do it at all.

Jimmy Floyd
01-03-2024, 06:33 PM
Food is a massive shift in the last 50 or so years (27 years). My old man was middle-middle-middle class probably (his dad was a teacher) and they seemed to eat corned beef, luncheon meat and absolutely filthy boiled potatoes the whole time. You look at old restaurant menus from the 70s and it's an absolute war zone.

Pepe
01-03-2024, 06:44 PM
Food is dirt cheap (healthy, unhealthy, processed, organic; all of it) so we eat a ton of it. We also do fuck all. Of course we are all fat.

Pepe
01-03-2024, 06:45 PM
Also, not only are the jobs done nowadays less strenous (even the lower class ones), but all of our free time is spent sitting staring at a computer/phone/TV, as opposed to going out to the stores or something.

niko_cee
01-03-2024, 06:47 PM
I was out in the park last weekend and it's come to my attention parents don't play footy with their kids any more. That's now granddad's territory. Or they leave the kid to do it themselves, if they do it at all.

Everyone is looking at their phone, all of the time, everywhere.

This includes most children over the age of 10.

Giggles
01-03-2024, 06:50 PM
I look at mine even more because of the type of person that rallies against it.

Ian
01-03-2024, 06:58 PM
Also, not only are the jobs done nowadays less strenous (even the lower class ones), but all of our free time is spent sitting staring at a computer/phone/TV, as opposed to going out to the stores or something.

Dunno how exaggerated it was but in a Bill Bryson book published many moons ago I remember him saying that even when Americans do go to the store they go by car in a lot of cases, no matter how close it is.* Saying when he moved back to the States he'd take a ten minute walk to the shop and he'd have neighbours comment on this like he was deranged for walking when they know he had a car on the drive.

* This is probably equally, or at least increasingly, true of Britons now as well.

Pepe
01-03-2024, 07:14 PM
My walk to work is 15-20 minutes long, depending how late I am running. I have a colleague who lives halfway. She drives to work every single day. The supermarket is a 20 minutes walk away and some professors where trying to organize rides for the students over winter break, because apparently expecting them to walk is beyond the pale.

Sir Andy Mahowry
01-03-2024, 07:56 PM
Sodium is becoming a massive thing in shit food.

Even "healthy" options (sandwiches and ready meals) at Supermarkets are absolutely fucking loaded with salt. You'd be hard pushed to find something with lower than 25% of your RDA when most are pushing 30-35%.

Ben
01-03-2024, 08:32 PM
Salt isn’t a bad thing if you offset it with water but too many people don’t drink it.

Dquincy
01-03-2024, 08:45 PM
Food is dirt cheap (healthy, unhealthy, processed, organic; all of it) so we eat a ton of it. We also do fuck all. Of course we are all fat.
You wot? Organic is not cheap. My wife is always buying it and our food shop cost has gone through the roof.

A whole chicken : £5
Organic whole chicken : £20

Madness.

Lewis
01-03-2024, 08:47 PM
Salt isn’t a bad thing if you offset it with water but too many people don’t drink it.

People at work lol at my water consumption. How they manage on a cup of tea every few hours is beyond me.

Shindig
01-03-2024, 09:06 PM
Yeah, I can't do tea or coffee when I'm the office. Two tall glasses of water sorts me out for the whole shift.

Lofty
01-03-2024, 09:10 PM
I just seem to be constantly needing a piss when I try and up my water consumption.

Sir Andy Mahowry
01-03-2024, 09:19 PM
I just seem to be constantly needing a piss when I try and up my water consumption.

Your body gets used to it.

When I started doing 2l a day (I really should move to 3l a day) I'd be pissing every 10 minutes it felt like.

randomlegend
01-03-2024, 09:35 PM
Unless you have renal failure, just drink when you're thirsty.

Don
01-03-2024, 09:52 PM
There's a lot to be said about the difference in quality between a supermarket chicken and a £20 high-end butcher one.

But the point that a healthy diet has to be expensive is also horseshit.

Baz
01-03-2024, 10:02 PM
I live mostly on bachelors noodles these days.

Spikey M
02-03-2024, 08:19 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-68431728

These grifts are spread far and wide. Easter and Christmas being the hotspots. Hopefully the Scot's have started the pushback against this shite. Well in lads.

niko_cee
02-03-2024, 08:40 AM
You get what you deserve if you can't spot that an absolute mile off.

Still seething about the fucking pumpkin farm.

Jimmy Floyd
02-03-2024, 01:22 PM
I'm afraid until people stop being suggestible, gullible morons there's nothing that can be done. See also online scams.

Spikey M
02-03-2024, 01:40 PM
Sadly, for every man saying "that looks like a load of shite", there's a woman calling him a miserable bastard as she clicks on the buy tickets button.

Pepe
02-03-2024, 02:52 PM
Speaking from experience there?

Spikey M
02-03-2024, 02:57 PM
Speaking from experience there?

Yes.


Last winter we didn't take the kids to see Father Christmas as Covid shut the gaff the day before we were going. So my Mrs started banging on about going to Lapland UK next Christmas and soppy bollocks here said "yeah, if you want."

So the tickets were released today (Yes lads, in March) and she's gone on and booked. £430. :moop:

On the plus side there was 165,000 people in the queue when she last looked, so there will be men up and down the country mirroring my seethe today.

Fleecing cunts.

niko_cee
02-03-2024, 03:02 PM
Did we ever get a Spikey review of Lapland UK?

Spikey M
02-03-2024, 03:05 PM
You didn't. Kids enjoyed it, wife thought it was magical, I had a decent burger and chips. Fair value would probably be about £100.

For the day, not the burger and chips.

Giggles
02-03-2024, 03:12 PM
I actually thought you were being mean but I only copped the UK bit of it there now.

Spikey M
02-03-2024, 03:36 PM
She looked at the real deal around the same time and three nights in Lapland came to about the same amount as a 2 week, all inclusive Caribbean cruise. That's without whatever they charge for Husky, Reindeer and Big Santy C experiences.

Mental.

Shindig
02-03-2024, 03:46 PM
Plus it'd be -15c.

Dquincy
02-03-2024, 08:47 PM
There's a lot to be said about the difference in quality between a supermarket chicken and a £20 high-end butcher one.

But the point that a healthy diet has to be expensive is also horseshit.

Or maybe that's the correct price for the high-end one. Buy cheap, buy shit (or chemical laden produce).

phonics
05-03-2024, 10:57 AM
https://i.imgur.com/BDhcLwV.png

What a picture to use.

Lofty
05-03-2024, 12:58 PM
Done him dirty there :D

Spikey M
05-03-2024, 03:05 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-68480196?fbclid=IwAR3bU9QGAdLFr9AxaDFBztYoU9Es65IJ nvELCiJKokkL1H1JJjWenXCKdOA

:lol:

John Arne
05-03-2024, 03:11 PM
:d

1764769103422837063

Ben
05-03-2024, 04:25 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-68480196?fbclid=IwAR3bU9QGAdLFr9AxaDFBztYoU9Es65IJ nvELCiJKokkL1H1JJjWenXCKdOA

:lol:

Incredible. :lol:

Lofty
07-03-2024, 10:10 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68486069

Fair enough it seems, how the fuck are you in charge of the ammunition and dicking about with live rounds in the same area to the point they are all mixed together.

John Arne
07-03-2024, 10:14 AM
Yeah, I was surprised the sentence was so short. Completely the armorer's fault.

Spikey M
09-03-2024, 07:58 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-68518231

If this was a 4 part drama I'd say it was too far fetched to be enjoyed. Mental.

Shindig
09-03-2024, 09:44 AM
In the months before the fire, Allen was in contact with a woman in the United States whom he met through the online game World of Warcraft. In December 2017, he told her that his relationship with Denise Gossett had broken down and he talked about moving to America.

Imagine if that was the motive.


He said Sabrina had killed her own brother and daughter, and that he had strangled Sabrina.

:|

Jimmy Floyd
09-03-2024, 09:51 AM
I'd say it was almost certainly the motive.

Yevrah
09-03-2024, 10:44 AM
I'm seriously considering moving abroad when I retire, but I hadn't factored in that I'd have to kill any girlfriend or kids I had before I do. Need to update the plan.

Shindig
09-03-2024, 11:14 AM
"When police broke the door down, all they found was a snapped broom."

Baz
09-03-2024, 11:59 AM
Met on WoW? Definitely played as Alliance. :nono:

Giggles
10-03-2024, 12:53 PM
Guess where all the money is? :drool:


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Jimmy Floyd
10-03-2024, 12:59 PM
Referendums across the Anglosphere keep going horribly 'wrong', don't they. One day they might learn something about themselves.

Giggles
10-03-2024, 01:01 PM
They're just leaning heavily into "the stupid plebs didn't understand" way of thinking now. This type of person will never learn anything about themselves until they're voted out of their job.

Bernanke
10-03-2024, 05:25 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68526972

The photoshopping on the girls wrist and Kates hair. :D We sure it's not an AI pic?

SincereTheRebel
10-03-2024, 05:42 PM
Guess where all the money is? :drool:


1766649446538870980

Bottom ireland being divided isnt shocking.

Giggles
10-03-2024, 05:44 PM
Bottom ireland being divided isnt shocking.

The joke you're living off would maybe work if it was actually divided. Sorry if that was too complicated for you.

Lewis
10-03-2024, 07:06 PM
Am I missing a speck somewhere, or have they put Northern Ireland as 'Constituencies yet to declare'?

Giggles
10-03-2024, 07:10 PM
Am I missing a speck somewhere, or have they put Northern Ireland as 'Constituencies yet to declare'?

That tiny blue one in Dun Laoghaire (south east Dublin) where most of FG and the green party live. Asylum centres: 0.

Giggles
10-03-2024, 07:48 PM
Referendums across the Anglosphere keep going horribly 'wrong', don't they. One day they might learn something about themselves.

It was the far right after all. Far from the only one to trot this out.

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niko_cee
10-03-2024, 07:52 PM
What were the questions? There seems scant reporting on it, but I was fascinated what part of the constitution even pertained to 'the role of women in the home' and how it might have been being amended.

Of course, this is why you don't have a written constitution.

Giggles
10-03-2024, 07:54 PM
What were the questions? There seems scant reporting on it, but I was fascinated what part of the constitution even pertained to 'the role of women in the home' and how it might have been being amended.

Of course, this is why you don't have a written constitution.

You'd need to know the real writing and language to the amendments, it's far from as simple as that.

Jimmy Floyd
10-03-2024, 07:58 PM
It was the far right after all. Far from the only one to trot this out.

The initial gut reaction is always 'fucking thickos', then when you give them a day or two to think about it they start constructing conspiratorial villains in just the way that every sect of loons does when things don't go their way. The far right, the Russians, the media, whatever you need it to be to push back the day from finally arriving when you have to stop and take a good long look at yourself.

The Australian referendum last year was a great example and this looks like another.

Giggles
10-03-2024, 07:59 PM
The initial gut reaction is always 'fucking thickos', then when you give them a day or two to think about it they start constructing conspiratorial villains in just the way that every sect of loons does when things don't go their way. The far right, the Russians, the media, whatever you need it to be to push back the day from finally arriving when you have to stop and take a good long look at yourself.

The Australian referendum last year was a great example and this looks like another.

:hail:

Giggles
10-03-2024, 08:01 PM
That's how you say A-fucking-men but there's only a Taz style emoji.

Bernanke
10-03-2024, 11:05 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68526972

The photoshopping on the girls wrist and Kates hair. :D We sure it's not an AI pic?

https://news.sky.com/story/picture-agencies-pull-kate-photo-amid-manipulation-concerns-13092352

:happycry:

Jimmy Floyd
10-03-2024, 11:16 PM
I'm sorry to say this but the time has come for the Windsors to be deposed and their royal status taken up by the Famileigh.

Lewis
11-03-2024, 12:02 AM
They've been making a few stupid mistakes recently. I'm not sure whether they have new advisors who are shit, or their advisors were always shit but the Queen kept a lid on it all.

Jimmy Floyd
11-03-2024, 12:48 AM
They had a golden era until Harry got involved with the American, it's all completely unravelled since then.

John Arne
11-03-2024, 01:04 AM
Looking at the photo now, the youngest kids' crossed fingers are pretty mangled. The girl's wrists seem normal to me. Kate left hand also a bit weird. Seems less crappy Photoshop and more AI crap.

niko_cee
11-03-2024, 08:19 AM
So are we saying she's actually dead/quadraspaz on a life glug?

Spikey M
11-03-2024, 08:54 AM
Would we get a bank holiday out of it?

Don
11-03-2024, 09:54 AM
Love how this shit still gets gammons talking as if it's of any consequence.

Spikey M
11-03-2024, 10:05 AM
You just focus on that war in that country you've never visited lad.

Baz
11-03-2024, 10:46 AM
What a strange response. :harold:

Luke Emia
11-03-2024, 11:03 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68526972

The photoshopping on the girls wrist and Kates hair. :D We sure it's not an AI pic?

I actually didn't see the wrists or any of the other bits it's here head that looks weird. It almost looks like it's been superimposed on the biggest child's chest.

Bernanke
11-03-2024, 11:12 AM
1767135566645092616

:lol:

Jimmy Floyd
11-03-2024, 11:15 AM
The most plausible theory is that they took a few in a row on a phone and then used an app to merge them together so that everyone's smiling, not exactly grand conspiracy.

Spikey M
11-03-2024, 11:15 AM
What a strange response. :harold:

The geezer was sat crying tears of joy over an American burning himself alive a couple of weeks ago. He's just as balls deep in discussing inconsequential shit as the rest of us.

Pepe
11-03-2024, 11:21 AM
Armchair photo detectives will have a lot of fun in the next few years.

Spikey M
11-03-2024, 11:26 AM
AI is going to make this stuff undetectable (without some serious tech). Living in a post-truth world is going to be interesting. We're increasingly not going to be able to trust anything we see or hear and there are some properly nasty bastards that are going to take full advantage of that.

Don
11-03-2024, 11:27 AM
Spikey, calm down mate, you're digging yourself deeper here.

Pepe
11-03-2024, 11:27 AM
Hence next few years as opposed to decades. Maybe just months.

Pepe
11-03-2024, 11:31 AM
I played with Photoshop a little bit last week after maybe two years and it really can do a lot of shit on its own now.

Yevrah
11-03-2024, 11:32 AM
AI is going to make this stuff undetectable (without some serious tech). Living in a post-truth world is going to be interesting. We're increasingly not going to be able to trust anything we see or hear and there are some properly nasty bastards that are going to take full advantage of that.

It might actually help solve one problem in all the narcissistic stuff we see on social media. If your image can be used to create anything, who on earth is going to want their's in the public domain?

-james-
11-03-2024, 11:35 AM
1767135566645092616

:lol:

This is a very weird response lol. As fucking if she has anything to do with the photos that get published of her at any point.

Kikó
11-03-2024, 11:56 AM
C for COVID. Coincidence?

Baz
11-03-2024, 11:56 AM
It might actually help solve one problem in all the narcissistic stuff we see on social media. If your image can be used to create anything, who on earth is going to want their's in the public domain?Especially people who flood it with their kids.

Kikó
11-03-2024, 11:57 AM
Anyway, I look forward to the talking heads Channel 5 program on this "Weirdest Royal moments" with some Emmerdale character describing the tweet.

Boydy
11-03-2024, 01:47 PM
1767176606374678724

:sherlock:

Spikey M
11-03-2024, 01:52 PM
Jesus :D

niko_cee
11-03-2024, 01:53 PM
:D

Although I reckon I'm probably wearing pretty much the same stuff today as I would have been on any given day in November last year.

Jimmy Floyd
11-03-2024, 02:08 PM
Ending up backed into a corner where Piers Morgan is demanding proof-of-life probably has to go down as a failed comms strategy.

Boydy
11-03-2024, 03:15 PM
1767196092578279932

:sherlock:

Jimmy Floyd
11-03-2024, 03:20 PM
Does look very similar. Maybe because... it's her face.

If there's a conspiracy to be had here, it's that Kate is (by far, far, far) the person whose photo appears the most in the British press and they've been denied that for several months now, it's like starving a Bengal tiger, ends up acting all cornered. They're always going to force the issue eventually.

Sir Andy Mahowry
11-03-2024, 03:27 PM
Maybe it's not even her actual face.

Maybe she's ugly as shit but they use Photoshop on stills and a Body Double on videos.

Ian
11-03-2024, 03:28 PM
Does look very similar. Maybe because... it's her face

Wake up Jimmy, this is just what Big Faces wants you to believe.

Sir Andy Mahowry
11-03-2024, 03:36 PM
Wake up Jimmy, this is just what Big Faces wants you to believe.
His company is a front for Big Faces, it's the only thing that makes sense.

Spikey M
11-03-2024, 03:38 PM
The more I look at her face, the more it looks like a balloon. :sherlock:

Sir Andy Mahowry
11-03-2024, 04:13 PM
The more I look at her face, the more it looks like a balloon. :sherlock:

Don't tease me.

Sir Andy Mahowry
11-03-2024, 04:16 PM
1766978926411166025

:D

dots.

Pepe
11-03-2024, 04:53 PM
Couldn't they just get the body double to wave from a balcony in whatever castle she lives in, or have the voice double call the radio and tell everyone to fuck off?

7om
11-03-2024, 05:59 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-68531759

Haiti is falling apart apparently. It reads like something out of a Far Cry game.

Jimmy Floyd
11-03-2024, 06:08 PM
I like the sound of a 'Kenyan-led rapid reaction force', presumably rapidly reacting to something 5,000 metres away.

Spikey M
11-03-2024, 06:28 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-68531759

Haiti is falling apart apparently. It reads like something out of a Far Cry game.

Another one for the "countries destroyed by the west" list.

They've essentially been punished for kick-starting the Caribbean / American slave revolts for about 200 years now.

Spikey M
11-03-2024, 06:31 PM
I like the sound of a 'Kenyan-led rapid reaction force', presumably rapidly reacting to something 5,000 metres away.

Judging by a video I watched a while back. they've been trying to set this up for a while now, but the Kenyans can't get it through their Parliament because there's nothing constitutionally appropriate about posting their police officers in another continent.

Lewis
11-03-2024, 06:41 PM
Another one for the "countries destroyed by the west" list.

They've essentially been punished for kick-starting the Caribbean / American slave revolts for about 200 years now.

As much as the evil International Monetary Fund stiffed them over rice, it's still a country comprised entirely of absolute retards, so its ceiling is pretty non-existent.

Baz
11-03-2024, 07:01 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-68531759

Haiti is falling apart apparently. It reads like something out of a Far Cry game.I watched a video from Haiti earlier where there'd been a fire at a prison and a man was walking around eating human barbecue.

7om
11-03-2024, 07:03 PM
As much as the evil International Monetary Fund stiffed them over rice, it's still a country comprised entirely of absolute retards, so its ceiling is pretty non-existent.

@Sincere

Pepe
11-03-2024, 07:10 PM
Thing with Haiti is that you can just compare them with their same-island neighbors.

Lewis
11-03-2024, 07:22 PM
The bit full of Africans is like Africa, and the bit that isn't isn't. More when we get it.

Ben
11-03-2024, 07:27 PM
Jimmy "Barbecue" Cherizier :D

Boydy
11-03-2024, 09:54 PM
1767301966684995836

:sherlock:

Jimmy Floyd
11-03-2024, 10:05 PM
Sounds subtle enough to be the CIA's doing.

niko_cee
11-03-2024, 10:32 PM
Suppose it's the price you pay for having everybody plausibly the victim of a gunshot wound at all times.

Lofty
12-03-2024, 06:51 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68541161

Bit of a kneejerk reaction really as anyone inclined to put perv cams in will do it regardless but as my mate found out there are organised groups of arseholes who rent your property, turn the doorbell wifi off and then have a massive party and take as many valuables as they can carry with them on the way out.

Spikey M
12-03-2024, 08:49 AM
Andrew Tate arrested again, but on a UK issued warrant this time.

niko_cee
12-03-2024, 07:31 PM
Bad news for Japanese mice (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-68547839)

Manc
13-03-2024, 12:40 AM
What has Andrew Tate got against Japanese mice?

Disco
13-03-2024, 06:15 AM
Presumably it's the ones with extra ears growing on them who have to listen his whiny bullshit.

randomlegend
14-03-2024, 01:54 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-68549091.amp


Children will no longer routinely be prescribed puberty blockers


Fewer than 100 young people in England are currently prescribed puberty blockers

:sherlock:

niko_cee
14-03-2024, 07:24 PM
The MET get a lot of well deserved bad press, but well done to the armed copper who told those dickhead tourists to fuck off when they were heckling the stupid palace guard person.

Don
14-03-2024, 11:40 PM
Melanie Phillips on QT :D Fucking dirty frog-looking bitch has been pummelling us with zionist shit for over a decade but I think the regular slot on QT may have now been revoked on tonight's showing.

Lewis
15-03-2024, 12:24 AM
Posts from over a decade ago.

Lofty
15-03-2024, 07:51 AM
Our lot are flapping about the possibility of Diane Abbot being allowed to speak at PMQs meanwhile this lad is out canvassing face to face no fucks given:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-68561346

Disco
15-03-2024, 08:20 AM
Perfectly innocent behaviour.

Spikey M
15-03-2024, 09:54 AM
So are we saying she's actually dead/quadraspaz on a life glug?

It's increasingly looking like she might be, you know.

Lewis
15-03-2024, 05:36 PM
If she had something actually wrong with her they would have wasted no time in mobilising the national sentimental/weirdo streak to be 'raising awareness' and all that. She probably just looks like puffy-faced shit after whatever operation she's supposed to have had.

Jimmy Floyd
15-03-2024, 05:40 PM
My spies tell me (think this is widely suggested anyway) that she had a hysterectomy against the wishes of The Firm and so they are nobbling her in the media as revenge.

Ian
15-03-2024, 05:43 PM
Such nice people.

Yevrah
15-03-2024, 05:48 PM
She had the kids though, so why would The Firm care about that?

randomlegend
15-03-2024, 05:51 PM
My spies tell me (think this is widely suggested anyway) that she had a hysterectomy against the wishes of The Firm and so they are nobbling her in the media as revenge.

She was in hospital for quite a while wasn't she, nearly 2 weeks? Very unusual length of stay for a hysterectomy.

Jimmy Floyd
15-03-2024, 05:51 PM
Dunno. Maybe three isn't up to scratch as a return from a lower-order brooding mare.

niko_cee
15-03-2024, 06:17 PM
This 'The Firm' business only makes me hate them all the more.

Also, nobbling your only saleable asset sounds like the kind of thing the 8 and a half brain cells involved in the entire institution would come up with, so sign me up to the theory. As an aside, surely some sort of 'women's health issue' is the most likely story isn't it, be it hysterectomy or something more severe/invasive, something 'private'. if it was appendicitis they would have said as much.

Giggles
15-03-2024, 06:19 PM
They probably just should have said that. Job done.

niko_cee
15-03-2024, 06:20 PM
They'd have fucked it up when it turned out she had it out when she was 15 or something and some local rag/nutter remembered.

Jimmy Floyd
15-03-2024, 06:28 PM
They're running out of genetic material and good news stories. Next big set pieces are when Charles carks / William gets crowned, then you're running dry of sexy material until Princess Charlotte grows knockers and/or the boys start dating, which, by the way, is going to be a disaster. I was reading the other day about how when Charlie Woods (15 year old son of Tiger) plays in minor/junior golf tournaments, local women take their daughters out of school and do them up in the mirror before taking them to watch these very minor local golf events in the hope that Charlie 'notices' them. George and Louis are going to be that x1000.

Gray Fox
15-03-2024, 06:51 PM
The Twitter consensus I've seen is he's cheated on her with someone who looks like a discount bin version of her. Also may have knocked this other one up. This would now be a very bad time for all of this to come out because we need him to not look like a cunt when he's about to be King.

Spikey M
15-03-2024, 07:08 PM
Is he? Charles should have atleast another 20 years in the tank.

Boydy
15-03-2024, 07:23 PM
The Twitter consensus I've seen is he's cheated on her with someone who looks like a discount bin version of her. Also may have knocked this other one up. This would now be a very bad time for all of this to come out because we need him to not look like a cunt when he's about to be King.

He's supposedly been shagging her for ages now. But it's the knocking her up that's the problem apparently cause she's keeping it.

Giggles
15-03-2024, 07:25 PM
He's supposedly been shagging her for ages now. But it's the knocking her up that's the problem apparently cause she's keeping it.

Surely they've enough pull to make sure she doesn't.

Jimmy Floyd
15-03-2024, 07:31 PM
Henry VIII just called his Henry Fitzroy and made him Duke of Richmond, now that's called kingship.

Gray Fox
15-03-2024, 07:31 PM
Do they usually start with asking nicely before they get to the car crash in the tunnel?

Boydy
15-03-2024, 07:36 PM
Surely they've enough pull to make sure she doesn't.

I dunno. She's proper aristo as well.

niko_cee
15-03-2024, 07:42 PM
someone who looks like a discount bin version of her

Think this is harsh. She's got a definite air of filth to her.

Gray Fox
15-03-2024, 07:47 PM
Think this is harsh. She's got a definite air of filth to her.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIokOtOXQAAHnR0?format=jpg&name=large

Netflix is gonna love this shit.

Dquincy
15-03-2024, 07:51 PM
These 'theories' you lot are spouting are wild. Bit enjoyable.

Giggles
15-03-2024, 08:13 PM
I dunno. She's proper aristo as well.

They'd surely be able to lift her and do whatever, they've savage pull.

Spikey M
15-03-2024, 08:16 PM
The Prince of Wales has impregnated the balloon and it's laying eggs. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-68547161)

Ben
17-03-2024, 11:37 AM
Continuing the theme of Kate Middleton, someone just put this in one of my (slightly unhinged) WhatsApp groups:


King Charles' cancer diagnosis raised the spectre of succession. William has had a mistress for about 8 years - Rose Hanbury. He wants her to be his queen.

Recently, Thomas Kingston, a royal by marriage and old friend of Kate Middleton's, recently committed suicide. This, and William's wish to divorce Kate, drove her to a nervous breakdown.

Ask yourself why Charles' cancer diagnosis was made public but not whatever Kate was in hospital for. Because what's worse than having cancer? How about the social stigma - the royal social stigma - of having a nervous breakdown?

And now Kate is refusing to co-operate with the palace. Hence the photo.

It’s from Reddit but links from mobile don’t want to work here.

niko_cee
17-03-2024, 11:52 AM
The difficulty I'm having with all these rumours, delightful as they are, is, if there isn't really any proper smoking gun evidence of this affair, I find it very difficult to believe that anything like that could really be kept even plausibly deniable in the modern age. Maybe the evidence is there though and I just have no interest in it.

Jimmy Floyd
17-03-2024, 12:33 PM
If Bill thinks he's going to get away with divorcing Kate and replacing her with some slapper he's delusional, that would probably end the monarchy.

Spikey M
17-03-2024, 01:49 PM
Fingers crossed.

Manc
17-03-2024, 02:08 PM
If Bill thinks he's going to get away with divorcing Kate and replacing her with some slapper he's delusional, that would probably end the monarchy.

Like father, like son.

Yevrah
17-03-2024, 02:13 PM
I think what's abundantly clear if it wasn't before was just how much Liz held this shitshow together. Only 18 months dead, it's all unravelling and Jim's bang on, if they become like any other dysfunctional celebrity family then it'll be game over.

Spikey M
17-03-2024, 02:14 PM
I think old people dying will see the end of them anyway. Nobody born after 1980 gives a fuck about them.

Turn the Palices and sprawling estates into HMO's, jobs a goodun.

Jimmy Floyd
17-03-2024, 02:35 PM
Like father, like son.

Slightly different as Diana was an obvious bad match and a pain in the arse, whereas I can't think of anything at all for anyone to hold against Kate.

Spikey M
17-03-2024, 03:17 PM
According to Twitter, which has never been wrong, the BBC have been told to expect an imminent "Royal Announcement". Good? Bad? Who knows. Just keep everything crossed for a bank holiday lads.

Lewis
17-03-2024, 03:44 PM
The difficulty I'm having with all these rumours, delightful as they are, is, if there isn't really any proper smoking gun evidence of this affair, I find it very difficult to believe that anything like that could really be kept even plausibly deniable in the modern age. Maybe the evidence is there though and I just have no interest in it.

The logistics of it are the issue aren't they. Where is the most recognisable man in the country, who can't go anywhere any time without a load of security, conducting this eight year affair? In his palace where loads of people work?

Shindig
17-03-2024, 03:59 PM
Surely the easiest scenario is that they couldn't get a Mother's Day (tm) photo out to the press on time so they cobbled one together.

randomlegend
17-03-2024, 04:03 PM
I suspect she has a more significant and longer term condition than has been let on and needed fairly major surgery.

Something like Crohn's and the admission was for a resection.

Ben
17-03-2024, 04:07 PM
Boring you lot.

No one would have believed they’d dare kill Diana until they did either.

niko_cee
17-03-2024, 04:08 PM
Maybe she's had a whipple.

Lewis
17-03-2024, 04:11 PM
I suspect she has a more significant and longer term condition than has been let on and needed fairly major surgery.

Something like Crohn's and the admission was for a resection.

Somebody I work with knows somebody whose son is at Eton (we were lolling as well), and the word round there was colostomy bag-related.

Ben
19-03-2024, 07:07 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68601354


The UK's electricity network needs almost a further £60bn of upgrades to hit government decarbonisation targets by 2035, according to a new plan.

About 4,000 miles of undersea cables and 1,000 miles of onshore power lines are needed, said the National Grid's Electricity Systems Operator (ESO).

The investment would add between £20 to £30 a year to customer bills, it said.

The cheek. :D

Baz
19-03-2024, 07:25 AM
Black Dick news: https://amp.tmz.com/2024/03/18/orlando-magic-delete-gradey-dick-anthony-black-jersey-swap-nsfw-phrase/

John Arne
19-03-2024, 02:23 PM
Some 86 people have been arrested in Vietnam in one of the largest ever cases of embezzlement and bribery (42,000 bond investors robbed). Head of VTP Real Estate and SCB bank accused of somehow managing to fleece 304,000,000,000,000 (304tn dong), or $12bn USD. That's 6% of Vietnam's GDP :D



This case is coming to and end, and the prosecution have recommended the death penalty be handed down to the lady who ran all of this.

Interestingly, the international coverage of this has been strangely quiet. $12bn is fucking huge - more than FTX.

Jimmy Floyd
19-03-2024, 08:20 PM
I see Bibi is ratcheting up the anti-US rhetoric, smacks of someone who thinks he might end up in The Hague.

Don
19-03-2024, 09:22 PM
It's all just a show to continue the killings. We've had 6 months of the same bullshit comments back and forth.

phonics
19-03-2024, 09:38 PM
Netanyahu has been a massive GOP guy because they love think him being a massive criminal is patriotism.

Spikey M
20-03-2024, 06:53 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68479491

Here we go.

They should just put me and Baz in charge of the country.

Spikey M
20-03-2024, 08:33 AM
1770334057374564708?t=wnqSjWCBOgLvq8UZEhw2Hg&s=19

Keep those e-victories rolling :drool:

Ben
20-03-2024, 08:41 AM
Yeah I'm having this one as well. :cool:

There's going to be a massive epidemic amongst today's youth.

Baz
20-03-2024, 08:58 AM
Who’d have guessed inhaling steam laced with nicotine wasn’t good for you.

Jimmy Floyd
20-03-2024, 08:59 AM
Vaping has always baffled me - isn't it just smoking without the good stuff? - but then I think because I'm the ultimate in calmness/boringness as a personality type, I've always misunderstood how many people are rolling around who just can't live without some kind of stimulus fix every five seconds.

niko_cee
20-03-2024, 09:01 AM
Wasn't it meant to more be the good stuff without the bad stuff, or perhaps, with different bad stuff?

It is fucking weird and probably just another symptom of the infantlisation of society.

Yevrah
20-03-2024, 09:16 AM
There's no mystery to it. Nicotine is an incredibly addictive substance and with vaping, we've basically introduced a way for people to ingest it 24/7 without any of the hassle that comes with actual smoking - no fire involved, no lingering awful smell, nowhere you now can't do it and not being physically sick if you're doing it constantly. If it had been introduced this way in the first place I'm pretty sure 90%+ of the population would have been doing it. Marketeers might have struggled with how to make it look as cool as a Cowboy smoking a lit cigarette, but they'd have found a way around that.

It's back to Lewis' point really about us being useless at doing things. Ok, so we're banning the flavoured and disposable ones, but not until next year. It should be far sooner and I don't care that it plunges the businesses involved into bankruptcy. We've already proven it's bad, even if the long term health impact is still not completely clear.

Ben
20-03-2024, 09:41 AM
The ONS data (via The Telegraph) shows that there are now more vapers than smokers but the total combined (vapers + smokers) is more than in 2012.

So it hasn't done the intended job because of course there was no regulation and it's resulted in a load of vaping kids who probably would never have smoked otherwise. I'm with Yev, ban them now and fuck the businesses profiting off this shit.

Baz
20-03-2024, 09:43 AM
What’s annoying is there is loads of grant money available to run smoking cessation campaigns and programmes but it explicitly says it’s not to be used to discourage vaping. Authorities had to declare whether or not they were promoting vaping as means to quit smoking, and those who aren’t ended up with less money. :cab: I try not to get involved though cos ketamine is far more of a concern among yungens.

Yevrah
20-03-2024, 10:24 AM
It’s public health England (or whatever body) being behind the curve again, as with Covid. First they wouldn’t recommend it when it was clearly a better option than smoking, then they did but by this time they were almost endorsing the legions of kids doing it who’d picked it up in the meantime.

Spikey M
20-03-2024, 10:35 AM
I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to the outright banning of all smoking, but it seems like a slippery slope. It's a short hop from there to booze, burgers and gambling. I'm not sure I want the government deciding what I can and can't do to that level.

phonics
20-03-2024, 10:39 AM
I love smoking. It's probably the only habit I enjoy.

Giggles
20-03-2024, 11:20 AM
Same here. I don't do it as much these days but I absolutely adore it.

Giggles
20-03-2024, 12:30 PM
Ding dong. Though it's not like any of the rest of the cunts will be much better.


1770414625877540919

Don
20-03-2024, 10:54 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/mar/20/ex-takeaway-worker-guilty-money-laundering-2bn-bitcoin-operation

£3.4bn :D

Spikey M
21-03-2024, 06:31 AM
What a woman. :drool:

John Arne
21-03-2024, 09:16 AM
Yeah, stuff like that is just genuinely impressive. Except the getting caught part.

niko_cee
21-03-2024, 09:22 AM
As if anti-money laundering checks would stop her from being able to buy prime London property. :lol:

Manc
21-03-2024, 12:30 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/21/labour-party-cancelling-membership-policies

Election on the rocks.

Spikey M
21-03-2024, 12:39 PM
I can't stand the bloke, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Jimmy Floyd
21-03-2024, 02:22 PM
I find it so bizarre, those people. Fucking 40% of the country is instinctively conservative, historically bloody difficult to beat in elections, and yet this is a moment when the other lot could and should win a 200 seat majority in a few months just by existing. If I was of the red persuasion and a public figure like Owen Jones I'd be getting myself right involved in the party, writing papers and trying to influence things. But no, it isn't some utopian socialist paradise of his dreams that he sees before him so he's washing his hands of it. It's somewhere between childishness and cowardice with hints of both, and until they stop being like this the Tories are always going to keep coming back.

Yevrah
21-03-2024, 02:30 PM
Think you're being a bit harsh there Jim. Owen has, after all, won the argument.

Sir Andy Mahowry
21-03-2024, 03:22 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68628989

I'd lol if Apple crumbles.

Obviously it wont and this shit will go nowhere but I can dream.

Ian
21-03-2024, 03:34 PM
I see what you did there.

Ben
21-03-2024, 03:37 PM
Android is a load of toss so they better get this ironed out.

Boydy
21-03-2024, 03:55 PM
Android is a load of toss so they better get this ironed out.

I've only ever used Android so I don't have anything to compare to but in what ways?

Spikey M
21-03-2024, 03:59 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68628989

I'd lol if Apple crumbles.

Obviously it wont and this shit will go nowhere but I can dream.

They'll just do some kind of stock split to get around it.

CJay
21-03-2024, 04:13 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68628989

I'd lol if Apple crumbles.

Obviously it wont and this shit will go nowhere but I can dream.

Android is the dominant player in most smartphone markets. That the iPhone is seen as a status symbol in the land of the free is hardly Apple's fault.

Lofty
21-03-2024, 04:21 PM
I find it so bizarre, those people. Fucking 40% of the country is instinctively conservative, historically bloody difficult to beat in elections, and yet this is a moment when the other lot could and should win a 200 seat majority in a few months just by existing. If I was of the red persuasion and a public figure like Owen Jones I'd be getting myself right involved in the party, writing papers and trying to influence things. But no, it isn't some utopian socialist paradise of his dreams that he sees before him so he's washing his hands of it. It's somewhere between childishness and cowardice with hints of both, and until they stop being like this the Tories are always going to keep coming back.

You will see all the perma gobshites will pivot this way soon enough if Labour win as their entire brand is slagging the government off and you can't do that if it's your 'team' dropping the bollocks.

Don
21-03-2024, 04:26 PM
How dare he not champion a genocide-supporting collection of scumbags with no redeemable qualities.

Lofty
21-03-2024, 04:55 PM
It could be the second coming of Jesus and Mohammed rolled into one poised to win the next election they would still all flounce because they need the money the simp supporters all give them for 'the important work they do' firing off tweets calling politicians cuntwombles and shitpuffins all day.

Ben
21-03-2024, 04:58 PM
Shitpuffins. :D

Boydy
21-03-2024, 05:12 PM
It could be the second coming of Jesus and Mohammed rolled into one poised to win the next election they would still all flounce because they need the money the simp supporters all give them for 'the important work they do' firing off tweets calling politicians cuntwombles and shitpuffins all day.

Those sort of compound swears are the preserve of "sensible centrists". Know your twitter subcultures. :nono:

Spikey M
21-03-2024, 05:37 PM
Lib Dem Ben in the mud.

Jimmy Floyd
21-03-2024, 07:03 PM
The cuntwomble brigade are the ones with cartoon avatars of themselves and self-diagnosed mental health issues. Owen Jones is of (though not entirely beloved of) proper left twitter, many of whom, unlike the cuntwombles, have actual jobs and lives, but are just as fucking useless when it comes to never wanting to compromise on anything ever.

Lewis
21-03-2024, 07:06 PM
There is a whole section of freaks that is going to have a difficult time with a Labour government. The left don't want them, so it's no use trying to criticise them from that perspective, and they won't want to burn their bridges with anybody of any influence. James O'Brien might as well get his HGV licence.

Jimmy Floyd
21-03-2024, 07:11 PM
They've got five years of 'To be fair to Starmer...' and '14 years of corruption and failure' to get through first, and after that we'll probably be at war with Norway or something anyway so it won't matter.

The ones I'll have my eye on are a) the Spectator establishment types and b) the nut fringe right, whatever they cook up should be more interesting than anything happening on the centre or left.

Boydy
21-03-2024, 07:18 PM
Why would anyone on the Labour left help the people who actively undermined the leader of the party when he was from the left? And then promised to do a lot of the same things that guy has proposed to win the leadership election but has since gone back and all those promises and offers nothing instead?

Fuck them.

Yevrah
21-03-2024, 07:19 PM
Why would anyone on the Labour left help the people who actively undermined the leader of the party when he was from the left? And then promised to do a lot of the same things that guy has proposed to win the leadership election but has since gone back and all those promises and offers nothing instead?

Because it's better than having a Tory government. It's staggering that this is such a difficult concept for some people on the left to grasp.

Lewis
21-03-2024, 07:26 PM
Only if you think that there is any substantial difference between the current Conservative and Labour parties, which there isn't, which is why half the Conservative vote will stay at home.

Shindig
21-03-2024, 07:27 PM
They need to start caring about winning. Principles can wait until the day after the election.

phonics
21-03-2024, 07:27 PM
Because it's better than having a Tory government. It's staggering that this is such a difficult concept for some people on the left to grasp.

How so? If you believe that Tory spending policies are the key factor of why you and your community is struggling and has been for your entire voting life, how does a Labour party offering the exact same policies 'but competent' offer you anything. This current Labour agenda is literally 'the last 15 years but with a new coat of paint'.

Labour will win and win heavily but it won't be people voting for Labour, it'll just be Tories not voting.

Jimmy Floyd
21-03-2024, 07:27 PM
Until you accept that the totality of left views (because they can't bring themselves to divorce, say, addressing wealth inquality from also fucking loving Vladimir Putin and wanting unisex toilets everywhere) will never sum to more than about 15% of the British vote, you can't bring yourself to compromise to get the most favourable possible democratic government into power.

Lewis
21-03-2024, 07:58 PM
David Cameron said the same sort of shite, and, fourteen years later, what has the 'instinctively conservative' half of the country had to show for it other than Brexit, which, lest we forget, the Conservative Party fought all the way until it nearly destroyed them?

There is a whopping great space between supposedly unelectable throwback socialism and just letting Doreen Lawrence design a new cover for the existing Conservative Party programme, and that is where the Labour Party could be if it wanted to actually do anything different. Especially now, when people will vote for literally any old shit to bring a change of government about. They could be making all sorts of not even that mental spending commitments and still piss it; but they won't, because they are quite happy with most of what the Conservative Party has done over the past decade.

The problem they will have is that, whilst New Labour could sit in and govern like the out-going Conservative government for four years because they inherited a booming economy and a country that worked, the next Labour government will walk into a rotting shit show and double-down on everything making it such. How do you fight any subsequent election on that?

phonics
21-03-2024, 08:16 PM
Until you accept that the totality of left views (because they can't bring themselves to divorce, say, addressing wealth inquality from also fucking loving Vladimir Putin and wanting unisex toilets everywhere) will never sum to more than about 15% of the British vote, you can't bring yourself to compromise to get the most favourable possible democratic government into power.

This is just bollocks and you know it. I don't know how you've gone from 'Government stopped caring about people, vast swathes of the county have been left behind etc' like a week ago to this nonsense.

Ben
21-03-2024, 08:32 PM
Only if you think that there is any substantial difference between the current Conservative and Labour parties, which there isn't, which is why half the Conservative vote will stay at home.

I think a lot of people will just be satisfied with not having rampant corruption waved in their faces for a bit.

Lewis
21-03-2024, 08:40 PM
I'm sure you aren't fifteen.

Dquincy
21-03-2024, 08:53 PM
UK inflation falls to 3.4% in February.

Thank you Tories, you're the best.

Jimmy Floyd
21-03-2024, 09:10 PM
The problem they will have is that, whilst New Labour could sit in and govern like the out-going Conservative government for four years because they inherited a booming economy and a country that worked, the next Labour government will walk into a rotting shit show and double-down on everything making it such. How do you fight any subsequent election on that?

Probably because Starmer will be quite different to what he says he's going to be, and is being like this to win. He is a snake after all. I still think he'll have a run at going back into Europe.

There is nothing in his personal history to suggest a Tory in a red tie, other than the fact that he picked up the party after the 2019 disaster and needed to make it win again. Doing it this way he wins but he doesn't over-promise. It's just good politics. I think he's a twat but it's good politics.

Lewis
21-03-2024, 09:58 PM
He is a 'Tory in a red tie' insofar as the Conservative Party have done more 'left-wing' things over the last decade than Ed Miliband was proposing to, and he agrees with ninety-five per cent of it. The only things he will do differently is sub-contract even more government out to various cunt 'stakeholders', except he won't have to pretend to be against it like Conservative politicians do.

7om
21-03-2024, 11:28 PM
The problem they will have is that, whilst New Labour could sit in and govern like the out-going Conservative government for four years because they inherited a booming economy and a country that worked, the next Labour government will walk into a rotting shit show and double-down on everything making it such. How do you fight any subsequent election on that?

Genuine question: why is that?

Lewis
22-03-2024, 12:10 AM
If you take all of the things the country is failing on - to name a few: planning, energy, universities, devolution, transport crime, immigration, taxation - all of their instincts are either exactly the same as the Conservative Party (whose instincts are terrible largely as a result of wishing to avoid getting into confrontations with the Labour Party and/or vested interests), or, in the case of things like crime and devolution, even worse. It will be government by Oxfam and the ten worst universities in the country.

John Arne
22-03-2024, 12:29 AM
Interesting.

phonics
22-03-2024, 06:34 AM
At the end of the day we had a decade and a half where investing was cheap and did the opposite. In 2008 you round up the bankers and summarily execute/arrest them so every country east of France isn't running a money laundering operation in the capital, in 2012 commit to building microchip and EV manufacturing in the north instead of a slightly faster train and a really good excel file for the NHS and you'd still be able to make the fake COVID money work and you'd be running the world.

phonics
22-03-2024, 09:41 AM
If anything wasn’t a perfect summmary of what we’re talking about Keirs also said the St George’s flag on the England kit is too woke.

Don
22-03-2024, 09:45 AM
This flag discourse is sensational. I hope it's some absolute don at Nike towers knowing how easy it would be to activate the gammonati like this. You could take a dump into these people's open mouths and they'd not get as triggered as they do when they sniff out such an opportunity to vent.