News of the day

[Ian]

Well especially on that call. What's he gonna do, sack you twice?

[John Arne]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59559834

Wonder where that leaves LGBQT+.

A similar thing is happening in the US with 'Latinx', with most actual Hispanic folk preferring the terms Hispanic, Latino or Latina. Guardian journo's currently scrambling to blame the Latinx term as being the creation of a white monster.

[Shindig]

Well especially on that call. What's he gonna do, sack you twice?

"Err ... some background sound came through there. Can I remind you all to mute?"

[Baz]

146896571463142605418 month ban for bullying another jockey.

A trainer was photographed throwing up a peace sign while sat on a dead horse and only got a 12 month ban.

[Disco]

People > Horses.

[Spikey M]

I don't give a shit about horses and I still think you're wrong.

[Disco]

Take it up with whatever passes for horse racing authorities, them not giving much of a shit about horses should be no real surprise.

[phonics]

I saw the below posts before the news story and thought Bryony Frost was the name of the horse.

[Lewis]

This (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-59589775) is properly mental, and what I meant the other day about public health whammers not living in the real world.

[Baz]

Why?

[niko_cee]

Maybe not applicable in the instant case, but it gets a bit sketchy when a legislature can be passing laws which will universally not apply to themselves [ie the people voting], but will to other citizens or whatever you want to call them.

If it's that big a deal just outright ban them.

Also, a bit pointless what with the whole parliamentary sovereignty thing meaning the next parliament could just delete the law.

[Lewis]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10294391/Geronimo-never-TB-Tests-slaughtered-alpaca-wrongly-down.html

:humb:

[Spikey M]

Jimmy is getting his film. :drool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/09/22/51569645-0-image-a-103_1639088034035.jpg

Maybe they're the same six coppers who smashed my front door down.

[Shindig]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/09/22/51569645-0-image-a-103_1639088034035.jpg

Maybe they're the same six coppers who smashed my front door down.

They heard you had a Llama up there.

[Yevrah]

I'm just gonna leave this here and see what the good people of TTH think.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-59613311


Birmingham City have renamed part of their stadium in memory of six-year-old Arthur Labinjo-Hughes.

The family zone will be called Arthur's Area and will be "a fun-filled space for young supporters to enjoy prior to kick-off", the club said.

[Ian]

So they've renamed what, the creche? A family cafe bit or something?

You'd be doing well to get worked up about that.

[Spikey M]

I imagine most clubs would do the same. He was a Birmingham fan wasn't he? I seem to remember him having a Birmingham shirt which they destroyed to punish him.

[Disco]

Clubs name stuff after people all the time, I don't see the issue.

[mo]

Yep, not an issue at all. The 'RIP Arthur 6' printed shirts that were on display were on a par with the poppy-covered mannequins at Remembrance day, but this is a nice gesture.

[Lewis]

Birmingham are just Cringe FC, but the bit about that story I never got was why the uncle never went round because he was threatened with lockdown arrest. And? Go round, get yourself arrested, and then when they investigate it... Profit. Even if nothing happens because the same useless cunt social workers are on the job, at least you don't have to spend the rest of your life telling yourself that you didn't bother trying to save your nephew because you might have been fined sixty quid.

[Pepe]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10294391/Geronimo-never-TB-Tests-slaughtered-alpaca-wrongly-down.html

:humb:

:harold:

Credit to the Dailty Mail for following TTH's style guidelines though.

[randomlegend]

Birmingham are just Cringe FC, but the bit about that story I never got was why the uncle never went round because he was threatened with lockdown arrest. And? Go round, get yourself arrested, and then when they investigate it... Profit. Even if nothing happens because the same useless cunt social workers are on the job, at least you don't have to spend the rest of your life telling yourself that you didn't bother trying to save your nephew because you might have been fined sixty quid.

I try not to generalise about and shit on other professions, but in my experience social workers are universally absolutely incompetent.

A lot of the time they end up making friends with the parents, become completely blind to what's going on and will actively defend them to other professionals who have concerns.

[Yevrah]

Do you see a lot of kids who've been smacked about RL? Presume it's a piece of piss to spot and must be horrific, although I guess you become desensitised to these things over time.

[Spikey M]

I try not to generalise about and shit on other professions, but in my experience social workers are universally absolutely incompetent.

A lot of the time they end up making friends with the parents, become completely blind to what's going on and will actively defend them to other professionals who have concerns.

I "work with" Social Workers atleast a few times a month and I can count the number of positive encounters on one hand. Most of them spend their time just trying to palm off their workload.

I spoke to one last week that wouldn't remove a child from a known drug dealers house because "he'd only run away and come back".

[randomlegend]

Do you see a lot of kids who've been smacked about RL? Presume it's a piece of piss to spot and must be horrific, although I guess you become desensitised to these things over time.

Quite a few yeah. It got a LOT worse during lockdowns (I would say anecdotally we were seeing five times as many as is usual for us).

It's often not as straightforward as you'd. Some are, but you see quite a few injuries where you absolutely can't say for sure whether it's inflicted or not.

Some of the shit you see from social workers is unreal though. We had one the other week where a mum had fled an abusive partner from another region of the country with the kid. Kid had injuries who mum was worried might have been caused by the dad, but had never seen him actually hit the child (only her). The social worker saw her, did nothing about it and just told her to rock up to a hospital in a few days :cab:

[Yevrah]

Sounds like Social Workers are incredibly lazy.

What's the crack when you suspect a kid has been abused? Straight on the phone to the rozzers or does that only happen in tv dramas and you just contact the social workers?

[Spikey M]

They're Civil Service staff. They'll be over worked, under staffed, under paid, poorly managed and drowning in paperwork.

I imagine they all start out keen and well intentioned. I don't think you'd go into that line of work if you weren't. It'll be the system that's the problem.

[randomlegend]

They absolutely are overworked but a lot of the stuff I take issue with - like them blatantly getting taken in by the parents - aren't "overwork" issues.

I doubt they're lazy in general.

[randomlegend]

Sounds like Social Workers are incredibly lazy.

What's the crack when you suspect a kid has been abused? Straight on the phone to the rozzers or does that only happen in tv dramas and you just contact the social workers?

It all gets done by my seniors, but I think initially we contact CADs (whatever that stands for) and it goes from there. Whether and how quickly police get involved depends on how significant the injuries are and how definite it is they were inflicted.

I have seen a parent arrested from the ward though.

[Pepe]

All they need is more funding. The solution to every problem.

[randomlegend]

Probably, if it's directed well. Better training and more of them definitely needed.

[Boydy]

It probably doesn't help that a lot of people who go into the job are thickos. It's another HR.

[Lewis]

The civil service basically runs on people ducking making decisions/taking responsibility for things, so, in these sort of areas it must be especially easy to just leave things as they are. If you play the odds then not many kids get abused and killed, and if they do then you can point to the process and the organisation will cover your arse; but if you prematurely remove them from their family then you get pulled into the courts and your prospects get tanked. With that in mind, blaming the individual social workers is probably a bit pointless.

[randomlegend]

In my experience it's more a case of wild inconsistency than persistent inaction.

[Spikey M]

It's definitely inacation in my experience, but that's probably easier to justify when the kid isn't in hospital.

[randomlegend]

We've also on more than one occasion had social workers blatantly lie to parents to get them to take the child to hospital and we then have to deal with the fallout when they realise they aren't just coming for the kid to have a quick checkup.

I'm sure from a bystander point of view people would make the "well you say what you can to get them to come" argument but it's insanely unprofessional/unethical.

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59635607

This identity politics maze has no centre, does it? I don't see how things like the film industry can continue to operate in the long run.

[Yevrah]

That caught my attention earlier too, but how do you mean 'has no centre'?

[Pepe]

If anyone is wondering, this is the goal of 'wokeism' right here:


In response, the HFPA has taken steps including recruiting 21 new and "predominantly diverse" members, appointing a chief diversity officer and making its members take diversity, equality and inclusion training.

Advancement for people in the DEI industry. There is no 'making the world a better place' intent at all.

EDIT: Someone should cancel the BBC. That should be equity, not equality.

[Kikó]

1470465097323659264?t=20S0xxsPwpL6ZTX0L4Doiw&s=19

Superb.

[Ian]

EDIT: Someone should cancel the BBC.

The Tories are working on it, I expect.

[Spikey M]

1470465097323659264?t=20S0xxsPwpL6ZTX0L4Doiw&s=19

Superb.

Deserved it for the kids names.

[Jimmy Floyd]

That caught my attention earlier too, but how do you mean 'has no centre'?

I mean that there are no end goals or cause (say, 'Free Nelson Mandela') but just an endless logical process that will end in society seizing up.

[niko_cee]

Like the maze in Westworld.

[Spikey M]

There's a complete lack of Asian involvement in Westworld.

[Shindig]

Why couldn't they get an HIV positive actor to play Freddie Mercury?

[Spikey M]

At some point we're going to end up with "Why do we have an American playing a Brit?!" and we'll never have to hear another terrible accent. Play the long game guys.

[John Arne]

The problem with this equality of outcome stuff, is where do you stop? Equality of the sexes, ok. Fine. How about trans equality, ok, sure. Ageism much? Short people... fat people... rich people.... people from the north... people who don't drive a car to work...

You could probably find people demanding equality ad infinitum.

[Pepe]

You could, but it really has narrowed down to two things:

- More black people on everything.
- Never question anything 'trans'

Anyone else can fuck off.

[Manc]

people from the north.

The war is over pal. Leave the commies be.

[Jimmy Floyd]

In my politics degree ten years ago, I remember writing an essay arguing that instead of all-women shortlists, Blair's Labour could just as easily have had a shortlist of dog owners only. Got a high mark for it. Don't think I would these days.

[John Arne]

You could, but it really has narrowed down to two things:

- More black people on everything.
- Never question anything 'trans'

Anyone else can fuck off.

Regarding the first point.... I must admit whenever I tune in to an illegal Sky Sports stream, I always find the adverts really weird. Like Every ad contains a black person/family, maybe an Asian family, a same-sex couple... its kinda, yeah ok - that's fine, but that seems to be way over-representative of the country I lived in... Perhaps I've been away longer than I care to remember. Maybe it's a good thing, I really don't know.

[Shindig]

The war is over pal. Leave the commies be.

You realise who you've just said that to? :D

[John Arne]

The war is over pal. Leave the commies be.

You weren't there man.

[Giggles]

Regarding the first point.... I must admit whenever I tune in to an illegal Sky Sports stream, I always find the adverts really weird. Like Every ad contains a black person/family, maybe an Asian family, a same-sex couple... its kinda, yeah ok - that's fine, but that seems to be way over-representative of the country I lived in... Perhaps I've been away longer than I care to remember. Maybe it's a good thing, I really don't know.

Equality doesn't mean equal, it means vast overcompensation in the other direction. Try getting a job these days if you're white and have a pair of balls (unless your name is now Barbara and you still have the balls).

[Pepe]

Regarding the first point.... I must admit whenever I tune in to an illegal Sky Sports stream, I always find the adverts really weird. Like Every ad contains a black person/family, maybe an Asian family, a same-sex couple... its kinda, yeah ok - that's fine, but that seems to be way over-representative of the country I lived in... Perhaps I've been away longer than I care to remember. Maybe it's a good thing, I really don't know.

Indeed. In the name of the representation, ads have become even less representative of the populations they claim to purport than before. You love to see it.

[Lofty]

1470465097323659264?t=20S0xxsPwpL6ZTX0L4Doiw&s=19

Superb.

So she just let some random in her house for hours and hoped they didn't nonce the kids?

Yeah it seems to be an easy way to hit the quota now, interracial couples on ads. I don't care either way, one of my best friends married a woman from Nigeria, but it is a bit jarring in every advert when the UK is as white and as racist as ever.

[Baz]

Who are these “Island Boys” and what have they done/do they do?

[Jimmy Floyd]

The black people in adverts always have bright, colourful interior decor compared to the white people. Sofa over and cushions especially. Check it, I don't invent these things.

Pub groups of men in betting ads and the like always have exactly one black man.

[Spikey M]

I have noticed Asian people are still pretty underrepresented in Adverts, but they do get shoehorned into Christmas Adverts a bit more than Adverts for the rest of the year.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm pretty sure there are more Asian people than black people in the UK, aren't there? The difference in marketability is that black people are associated (for some reason) with the US civil rights movement, which is the lens through which quite a lot of freaks view all of human affairs.

Jazz, hip-hop and sweet, sweet soul a lot more ad-friendly than bhangra and raga.

[Manc]

one of my best friends married a woman from Nigeria.

Next time you head to the barbers get a 0 all over and reveal your true identity. Gammon scum.

[Spikey M]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_Kingdom

A bit out of date, but:

Asian - 7.19%
Black - 3.01%

[Jimmy Floyd]

But black people place exactly 33% of weekend 'accas' according to gambling adverts. Must be total addicts.

[Yevrah]

At some point we're going to end up with "Why do we have an American playing a Brit?!" and we'll never have to hear another terrible accent. Play the long game guys.

Not if they're both white we won't.

[Spikey M]

Not if they're both white we won't.

Give him time. (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/aug/16/benedict-cumberbatch-exposed-chink-pc-armour)

[Offshore Toon]

If you were going to include two races in the same bracket for marketing, it's probably white and black. All the Asian demographics refuse to embrace Western culture.

[Yevrah]

I mean that there are no end goals or cause (say, 'Free Nelson Mandela') but just an endless logical process that will end in society seizing up.

You're right, the train doesn't stop and proportionate representation is not enough. I happened to catch Emmerdale the other day for the first time in decades and white people were the minority in the episode I saw. A minority, in a rural village in Yorkshire.

[Kikó]

Immigration gone mad.

[Yevrah]

Immigration gone mad.

:D

It does make a mockery of stuff like this though.


The Black to Front Project is part of Channel 4’s ongoing commitment to improve Black representation on-screen and more widely in the TV industry. The purpose of the project is two-fold: firstly, to challenge us all to see our content differently, and secondly, to leave a lasting legacy in terms of increased Black representation both on- and off-screen.

And I say that as someone who really couldn't give a shit what colour the actors are as long as they're good, but when the ethnicity of the group you're claiming is under represented only make up 3% of the population, meaning they're actually over represented, my bullshit detector goes haywire.

[-james-]

Equality doesn't mean equal, it means vast overcompensation in the other direction. Try getting a job these days if you're white and have a pair of balls (unless your name is now Barbara and you still have the balls).

:lol:

[Spikey M]

Eastenders always makes me laugh. One Black family. One Asian family. One gay family. Everyone else is WhiteCisgenderyGammon.

In East London.

[Yevrah]

Eastenders always makes me laugh. One Black family. One Asian family. One gay family. Everyone else is WhiteCisgenderyGammon.

In East London.

And I guess that's where we hit the tipping point of this in that I'm sure the BBC know that if they actually represented East London properly ratings would dive as far more people care about these things than should.

On a separate point Hollywood have served up some absolute stinkers with Women in lead roles (labouring under the misapprehension that if you do that you don't need to worry about the quality of the writing or anything else) and at some point audiences will switch bad films off, even if they're films that are cannon in a beloved franchise. Ironic that once again Hollywood are years behind the pace with this stuff and haven't yet caught up with the fact that Women don't matter anymore.

[Pepe]

The reason Asians are not more represented is that they manage to do just fine without needing the white man to change their ways to accommodate them. In the US they are basically considered part of white supremacy nowadays.

[Jimmy Floyd]

We're talking about south Asians.

[Pepe]

Those do fine too, in the US. And as you mentioned, what matters is how things play out in the US, not over there.

[John Arne]

The reason Asians are not more represented is that they manage to do just fine without needing the white man to change their ways to accommodate them. In the US they are basically considered part of white supremacy nowadays.

A fair few South Vietnamese flags were spotted at the Capital Riot :D

[Lewis]

Those do fine too, in the US. And as you mentioned, what matters is how things play out in the US, not over there.

Pakistanis are more likely to be cousin-shagging whingers, but Indians just get on and succeed. The exception seems to be high caste Indians in America (and therefore increasingly here) who throw their lot in with the grievance people as a way of obtaining the sort of unearned reverence they expect back home.

[Lofty]

Next time you head to the barbers get a 0 all over and reveal your true identity. Gammon scum.

My eyebrows are not suited to that :D I went out with a girl from Fiji once, she was fit. Had a Brazzers subscription :drool:

I haven't seen the stats on the population make up south asian vs black but assume it is as said here.

The best over representation is Hollyoaks where everyone is gay or bi.

[Yevrah]

When I was younger we were taught that life wasn't fair, but you could win. The Indian population seem to have stuck with that mantra while everyone else (of nearly all other backgrounds) has just focused on the unfair bit.

[niko_cee]

On the theme of there being no end for all this shit:


In response, Tony's said: "We failed to consider the difficulties empty windows can cause for neurodivergent children and adults. We have more to learn in considering how we can make our products as inclusive as possible."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59636955

Dear lord.

[Yevrah]

That has to be a wind up, but if it isn't...

It's funny, when I accuse the World of being soft as shit at the moment I get Phonics and/or Kik's lumping in one me for my wrongness. But there it is, people's mental disorders being triggered by a window behind an advent calendar being empty.

[Ian]

I saw that and I'm prepared to bet the adults were angrier than the majority* of kids would have been. That said, it's a stupid thing to do.

* Allowing for the kids who do genuinely have issues and will go apeshit.

[Yevrah]

Yeah, there is nothing good at all in that article, for anyone involved.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The problems in British society began when people started putting chocolate in advent calendars. When I was a kid my calendar doors would contain nothing but a small Christmas-related picture (a snowman, a robin, one of the Three Wise Men, etc) and that was more than enough of a thrill.

[Pepe]

Pakistanis are more likely to be cousin-shagging whingers, but Indians just get on and succeed. The exception seems to be high caste Indians in America (and therefore increasingly here) who throw their lot in with the grievance people as a way of obtaining the sort of unearned reverence they expect back home.

A Pakistani Math Prof I play football with is full into the whole shit. Once we were playing and told me that some new lad never passed the ball to non-white people. Didn't even know what to say, so I just said 'ohrly?' and moved on. Took about five seconds of inspection to realize that he was wrong. He is lighter skinned than me, of course. I am sure the U S of A is extremely unfair to him.

[Pepe]

I also had a Pakistani student doing research with me last summer and he was complete dogshit, to the point that I fired him before his term was over. Based on these two examples, I will conclude that Pakistanis are shit. Indians are class though.

[Boydy]

The problems in British society began when people started putting chocolate in advent calendars. When I was a kid my calendar doors would contain nothing but a small Christmas-related picture (a snowman, a robin, one of the Three Wise Men, etc) and that was more than enough of a thrill.
What sort of upper class faux-Victorian shit is that? All my advent calendars had chocolate in them.

[Pepe]

Explains why you're a wrong'un.

[niko_cee]

Not sure I ever had an advent calendar.

[Yevrah]

What sort of upper class faux-Victorian shit is that? All my advent calendars had chocolate in them.

:D That tickled me.

So did mine and I'm sure I'm older than Jimmy.

[Pepe]

I am sure that I have never had one. I don't think that they were a thing in Mexico, or at least my parents didn't bother.

[SvN]

My first ever advent calender was one that just had a Christmas illustration behind it. I think that was because we were poor, though.

[Manc]

Started from the bottom.

[Spikey M]

https://youtu.be/wJfL2mjS_4s

[Jimmy Floyd]

What sort of upper class faux-Victorian shit is that? All my advent calendars had chocolate in them.

It was a conscious decision by my mum as she thought we ate enough chocolate as it was. A common theme actually - she also didn't play any pop music in the house until I was about ten (even though she herself liked pop music) because she thought we'd discover that for ourselves anyway, so it was always Classic FM or classical CDs. Oh yeah, and I could only have the much sought after Coco Pops on Saturdays - had to be blander cereal on the other days of the week.

Funny, looking back. I've started reading loads of books about the 60s, 70s and 80s recently to try and understand where it is I actually come from.

[Disco]

Some of that sounds insane but then I remembered that we were only allowed fizzy drinks at the weekend (a single bottle of lemonade between all of us).

[Giggles]

You haven't turned out a bad skin all the same so she can't be faulted.

[Jimmy Floyd]

We weren't allowed fizzy drinks at all until I was about 11. Remember an orangina on holiday in France being the first one I ever had and thinking it was some kind of magical nectar. I was very restricted on things like computer games etc as well.

I think even she would now think it was all insane, but it's definitely contributed to my having a deep fear of breaking rules, among other things.

[Foe]

I’m still really disappointed my mum has stopped getting me an advent calendar. So good.

Kicked up a fuss a few years ago so Easter eggs are back though, which is probably more critical.

[Baz]

. Based on these two examples, I will conclude that Pakistanis are shit. Indians are class though.

This is basically the opinion of the whole of India and anyone with any kind of Indian heritage.

[SincereTheRebel]

One of the reasons that black people are targeted more for things, especially in adverts over the brown asians. According to my dad, was because black people are happy to spend off their money on stupid things. He would often refer to them as "negro trinkets"

[Spikey M]

He probably has a point. People emulate People they share traits with.

But it's probably also because Black is cool at the moment and mixed race People in particular are good looking. (:cool:)

[Lewis]

Another top result (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-59637683) for the nation's social workers. Me being a man of the world I would have clocked 1) the fact that they were lesbians; and 2) the age gap and worked on the assumption it was a weirdo house where somebody is battering somebody. But no, because stereotypes aren't real, a child is dead.

[Yevrah]

The pair would document their abuse in photos and videos, sometimes uploading clips of the "exhausted" toddler, with visual effects and comical background music, to social media.

I mean, fucking hell.

[Waffdon]

Another top result (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-59637683) for the nation's social workers. Me being a man of the world I would have clocked 1) the fact that they were lesbians; and 2) the age gap and worked on the assumption it was a weirdo house where somebody is battering somebody. But no, because stereotypes aren't real, a child is dead.

If they were real you’d be locked up on the nonce ward for drinking milk in a pub, surely?

[Yevrah]

If they were real you’d be locked up on the nonce ward for drinking milk in a pub, surely?

:lol:

[Spikey M]

One copper kills a bird and we end up with criminals having face time chats with female officers while they're getting nicked.

What do we do in revenge for 2 of their number being child murderesses? I'll be giving my daughters teacher a talking to tomorrow morning.

[Lofty]

The problems in British society began when people started putting chocolate in advent calendars. When I was a kid my calendar doors would contain nothing but a small Christmas-related picture (a snowman, a robin, one of the Three Wise Men, etc) and that was more than enough of a thrill.

Ruud Gullit sitting on a shed.

[phonics]

Jim sounds like the Latvian kid I went to school with who said he used to get an Orange for Christmas and now runs a Eastern European bank that’s exclusively a money laundering operation.

[phonics]

I mean, fucking hell.

Ian Watkins the lead singer of Lost Prophets got arrested by the coppers for pedo stuff and when they asked for the password told them it was ‘ifuckkidz’.

[Yevrah]

He did sound like a very bad man.

[phonics]

Fake sound of progress… sounds like the modern prison system am I right [chubbybrown]

[Spikey M]

And he's still the least annoying of the famous Ian Watkins'.

[Boydy]

Another top result (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-59637683) for the nation's social workers. Me being a man of the world I would have clocked 1) the fact that they were lesbians; and 2) the age gap and worked on the assumption it was a weirdo house where somebody is battering somebody. But no, because stereotypes aren't real, a child is dead.

Is eight years that big an age gap?

[Lofty]

It's all relevant I'd say, 32 and 40, probably not. But 28 and 20 is a bit suspect. When I was 28 I could have thought of anything worse than being in a prolonged conversation with a 20 year old. I think when you are the older one messing around with someone who is barely out of their teens it suggests the whole thing is heavily reliant on the sexual dynamic.

[Spikey M]

Is eight years that big an age gap?https://i.imgflip.com/4zrp0s.jpg

[Giggles]

Forced? Could she not have fucked off after the first month of it?


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[John Arne]

Accountant forced to prepare P&L for past 10 years.

[Spikey M]

My work keeps forcing me to talk to people. It's terrible.

[Lewis]

It's all relevant I'd say, 32 and 40, probably not. But 28 and 20 is a bit suspect. When I was 28 I could have thought of anything worse than being in a prolonged conversation with a 20 year old. I think when you are the older one messing around with someone who is barely out of their teens it suggests the whole thing is heavily reliant on the sexual dynamic.

The younger one was seemingly new to gayness/biness as well, which, given that she was also half a rerard, whiffs of the older one grooming her into it.

[Shindig]

Aye, 70 IQ. The mark of all great thinkers. Knock 20 points off for the heavy drinking as well.

[igor_balis]

1470465097323659264?t=20S0xxsPwpL6ZTX0L4Doiw&s=19

Superb.

I'm struggling to understand the nature of the service she's paying for there.

[randomlegend]

Ian Watkins the lead singer of Lost Prophets got arrested by the coppers for pedo stuff and when they asked for the password told them it was ‘ifuckkidz’.

A load of the court documents of that case are online. It's grim reading.

[Spikey M]

It's all grim, but the bit that really sticks with me is the copper moaning at the woman reporting him because arresting and prosecuting celebrities is a bit of a pain.

[Shindig]

"You belong to me and so does your baby." is probably one of life's all-time worst quotes. Right up there with Rolf Harris' lawyer trying to explain away, "How'd you like to be molested in the morning?"

If and when I ever wind up on jury duty, I hope it's not a nonce case.

[Yevrah]

A guy in my old local did and he looked utterly haunted by the whole thing.

[-james-]

I got called up for the Alesha MacPhail case, managed to get excused thank fuck.

[Giggles]

So many questions.


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[Ian]

I though that was saying there is a range called the "Steve Bloom Mountains" and now I'm sad that I misread it.

[Spikey M]

Jimmy, if you go out licking door handles now, you could be boss by February. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59674616)

[Raoul Duke]

I think it might also be Xmas skiving...

[Don]

Do the Irish have a fetish for personal injury claim stories? It's clearly bigger than just a Giggles thing as I'm not even sure why this continual stream of stories are reported by the accompanying articles.

[Giggles]

Judges here have a fetish for rewarding chancers.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I think the Irish just have a very completist press. If I google any of my Irish customers it gives me reports on all the times they appeared in court or employed a woman (front page news in the engine business).

[Queenslander]

David Pocock is running for an ACT senate seat next Federal election. :cool:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-17/former-wallaby-david-pocock-to-run-for-act-senate/100705718?fbclid=IwAR1-_Ecbvuhpjxa8mLlBf2UeqE8YX88ysx98sAxl3bjslrKLHcKKc2 lbShc




https://www.dpfortheact.com/home/#page-section-61ba79dc8f66b25068ef35cc

[Bernanke]

The Gävle goat was defeated for the first time in years.

https://cached-images.bonnier.news/swift/bilder/mly/42789ffe-e8df-4f14-93b0-1ee58de590fb.jpeg?interpolation=lanczos-none&fit=around%7C2020:1137&crop=2020:h;center,top&output-quality=60

Last time was in 2016:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38148925

Timeline here, as fantastic as ever:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A4vle_goat

2001:


In 2001, the goat was burned down by a 51-year-old visitor from Cleveland, Ohio in the United States, who spent 18 days in jail and was subsequently convicted and ordered to pay 100,000 Swedish kronor in damages. The court confiscated his cigarette lighter with the argument that he clearly was not able to handle it. He stated in court that he was no "goat burner", and believed that he was taking part in a completely legal goat-burning tradition. After he was released from jail he returned to the US without paying his fine.

2005:


Burnt by unknown vandals reportedly dressed as Santa and the gingerbread man, by shooting a flaming arrow at the goat. Reconstructed on 5 December. The hunt for the arsonist responsible for the goat-burning in 2005 was featured on the weekly Swedish live broadcast TV3's "Most Wanted" ("Efterlyst") on 8 December.

[Spikey M]

It's not been a good month to be a woman.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-59695030

[Jimmy Floyd]

Or a young child.

[Yevrah]

Redressing the balance.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-59643929


Jordan Monaghan, 30, smothered his daughter Ruby at the family home in January 2013 before also smothering his son Logan at a swimming pool eight months later.

He was on police bail for their murders when he killed his partner Evie Adams, 23, by poisoning her in 2019.

How the hell do you get bail having been charged with murder?

[niko_cee]

Dave printed Spikey the wrong papers for that hearing.

[phonics]

Found a new cryptocurrency:

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/nonce.asp

https://i.imgur.com/nobmBzy.png

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59703523

Necklaces and accessories claiming to "protect" people from 5G mobile networks have been found to be radioactive.

The Dutch authority for nuclear safety and radiation protection (ANVS) issued a warned about ten products it found gave off harmful ionising radiation.

:lol:

[Ian]

People needlessly scared of normal thing in make fools of themselves shocker

[Spikey M]

They should have stuck with good old fashioned tin foil.

[Shindig]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59223081

£400 a month? Are you running a grow op?

[niko_cee]

People don't turn anything off anymore.

[Spikey M]

Alright Grandad.

[Don]

And yet we've got a few years of "energy prices ra ra" headlines and sob stories to look forward to from the cunts. The fact people think wearing layers at home is an inconvenience shows prices need to rise and rise tremendously.

[Giggles]

It’s all gone such a scam here that your own electricity company will be emailing you to recommend another one for a discount. All about 6 month changeovers.

[Spikey M]

They've started on animals now. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-59728476)

[Ian]

That's what happens when you put a stupid, flighty animal in charge of a horse.

[niko_cee]

Misleading headline. :nono:

Was hoping the horse was going to be the one doing the kicking.

[Yevrah]

A mundane article really, but one bit caught me.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59703257


But is she right? Many comedians say their industry is in fine - and funny - form. Nobody is being censored, they claim. And in the end, it is audiences who decide what's funny and what's offensive.

Take comedian Russell Kane, who knows a thing or two about cancellation. He presents Radio 4's Evil Genius, which each week takes a different figure from history and decides, based on their actions, whether they should be saved or cancelled.

He told me it's "complete nonsense" that comedians are sacrificing being funny because they don't want to be cancelled.


Seems a reasonable stance and one at this point I agree with.


However, he does think he and his fellow comedians worry about being cancelled for things they might have said in the past which have since become less acceptable. "I signed up for a website called TweetDelete and all my posts that are older than six months have gone. It's a bit of self-protection."

Mate.

[Ian]

"It's in the balance whether we will ever be funny again," might be the stupidest thing I've read this week, and I looked at RAWK yesterday.

[Yevrah]

Maureen Lipman's never been funny so she must be taking this all very hard.

[Ian]

:D

[SincereTheRebel]

https://news.sky.com/story/72-million-year-old-dinosaur-embryo-discovered-inside-fossilised-egg-12501849

It is going to be Jurassic Park out here.

[Shindig]

Mystery virus host.

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59753535

I think the... ahem... lady doth protest too much.

[Shindig]

I mean, she has two daughters who look very much like her.

[Spikey M]

My kids look like me but I didn't drop them out the end of my plonker.

[Disco]

Something else that's altogether too narrow.

[Lofty]

Does Maureen qualify as shameful lustage?

[Yevrah]

For anyone under about 60 I'd say, yeah, she does.

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59753535

I think the... ahem... lady doth protest too much.

Elle n'est pas un homme, mais une barbe.

[mo]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-59754035

All the more galling considering this is the person who would've sat through hundreds of hours of training on things like sexual abuse, rape, trauma, etc, and dealt with numerous horrific issues as part of her job.

[Shindig]

The 8 year age gap strikes again.

[SvN]

They've started on animals now. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-59728476)

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/EFCB/production/_121478316_slapping.png

The action shot of the horse being hit has really tickled me :D It looks like a still from a Rocky film.

[Yevrah]

I don't know what it is with horsing types, but they seem to have a much higher streak of cruelty in them than you'd expect to find in a walk of life of similar size.

[Ian]

But would be absolutely furious if you suggested to their face that they perhaps don't love horses after all.

[Spikey M]

It's just a shame that animals so able to kick heads into orbit, don't do so more often.

[randomlegend]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-59754035

All the more galling considering this is the person who would've sat through hundreds of hours of training on things like sexual abuse, rape, trauma, etc, and dealt with numerous horrific issues as part of her job.

Those sentences seem incredibly lenient to me.

[Manc]

I'm presuming you got longer?

[Spikey M]

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Enough is enough. I want male only train compartments immediately.

[Lewis]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-59754035

All the more galling considering this is the person who would've sat through hundreds of hours of training on things like sexual abuse, rape, trauma, etc, and dealt with numerous horrific issues as part of her job.

Not a bad looker for her age as well. :o

EDIT: I bet the arsonist scrubs up alright too.

[Baz]

Not a bad looker for her age as well. :o

Wiganer. Probably got a hairier bumhole than Lofty and Mahow combined.

[Ian]

Have you looked at a lot of Wiganer bumholes?

[Baz]

Have you looked at a lot of Wiganer bumholes?

Can’t miss em on Kings Street, gone 8pm

[Shindig]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59765052


He said he had not started the school to lure women for sexual purposes. :D

[Baz]

I mean, I’d sleep with him.

[Pepe]

Not a bad looker for her age as well. :o

EDIT: I bet the arsonist scrubs up alright too.

Give us your criminal lady rankings.

[Shindig]

I hope Karen Matthews is nowhere near that list.

[Spikey M]

She's an absolute babe compared to Hindley.

[Shindig]

Can we just suspend the voting on Rose West? This is Lewis we're talking about.

[Shindig]

"No Alexa, no!" (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59810383) :D

[Lewis]

Can we just suspend the voting on Rose West? This is Lewis we're talking about.

There is that black and white picture of Fred and Rose when they were young and she wasn't bad. Maybe it really was all him.

[Spikey M]

I had to see this, so now you do too. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-59808883)

[Shindig]

I was watching something the other day about Lenin's mummified corpse and he's practically hollow.

[Dquincy]

New BBC newsreader who has a chin tattoo. Looks like a goatee at first glance.

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[Giggles]

Looks like she’s dribbling.

[Spikey M]

Looks like she broke through that glass ceiling face first.

[Queenslander]

Haka!

[Jimmy Floyd]

Always gives me the chills when people use terms like 'full-blood', even though it's seemingly allowed for designated Oppressed Groups.

[Lewis]

The whole Polynesian island-hopping story is fascinating, and I often wonder whether it doesn't get that much attention because it would slightly undermine Maori claims of equivalence to the Australian indigenous fellas. Those poor saps genuinely were as indigenous as it's possible to be without sprouting from the ground, where as the Maori had only been in New Zealand for a couple of centuries by the time we got there, which, a couple of centuries later, does complicate matters as far as who gets to lay moral claim to what.

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/jan/02/attention-span-focus-screens-apps-smartphones-social-media

Increasingly thought the same over the last 2 years. Need to get on that internet detox but like fuck am I doing it without an accompanying holiday.

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59852577

It is very funny how our remain lot (who can't speak French) refer to these clowns as 'the grown ups' and so on when they're just as batshit mental as we are.

[Lewis]

Even our biggest remainer dickheads wouldn't stick an EU flag on the Cenotaph, so they are right to be seething about that.

[Pepe]

My wife is a full-on lefty and I can tell you that she would be having none of that.

[randomlegend]

I dunno how anyone can remotely give a shit about things like what flag is flying.

[Baz]

I dunno how anyone can remotely give a shit about things like what flag is flying.

I feel like that about most things.

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59854919

"eight people over the age of 90 who needed hospital treatment after falling from playground equipment, were recorded."

Go on lads :cool:

[Shindig]

One 90-year-old woman was admitted to hospital after being bitten or struck by a crocodile or alligator.

How the fuck do you manage that in lockdown?

[randomlegend]

My Mum still goes round my grandparents and finds my 91 year old grandad up trees. The day after I took him to the football, he took his tractor and trailer down to the local woods and collected a trailerful of firewood on his own. Man is a beast.

[Boydy]

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Has he got Covid again? :D

[Boydy]

Oh no, wait, apparently he's constipated.

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[Ian]

Well he has had his head stuck up there so that makes sense.

[Shindig]

News just in: Bolsonaro full of shit.

[Dquincy]

Made sure she took a selfie in the ambulance for the gram. :happycry:

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[Queenslander]

Australian versions of The Masked Singer and I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here! in 2021


What an irrelevant mong.

[wullie]

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/rugby-man-fly-america-meet-22623356


Warehouse worker Paul Martin had his bags packed and was ready to fly to the Alabama hospital bed of former top global porn star Sasha Grey.

The 52-year-old bachelor was also ready to send £1,700 for the medication the X-rated Californian needed to save her life.

Then the Sunday Mercury burst the fan’s bubble.

We have found no evidence Ms Grey, whose body of cinematic work includes The Porn Diaries, Dawn of Sex and Bang Gang (A Modern Love Story), is battling for life in the UAB Hospital, Madison County, Alabama, as Mr Martin,from Rugby, has been informed.

We have been unable to contact the medic who sent a pleading message to Paul which included the emotive line: “Send £1,700 or she will die.”

He is the unwitting victim of a porn scam.

Ms Grey, who turned her back on the X rated industry 10 years ago to successfully pursue a mainstream career, is also an unwitting victim of the salacious con.

Her name has been used without her knowledge to prise money from punters.

Paul – despite being presented with our evidence – still intends to fly to the Deep South on Friday. He has paid £600 for a flight.

He admits to working “72 hours for the last 14 weeks” to finance the mercy dash.

“If I don’t see her, I don’t see her,” he shrugged. “I’d like to visit the place, anyway. I think it’s got mountains"

[Kikó]

A bangs a bang.

[Pepe]

Bro, just go on Twitch. She streamed a few days ago.

[Spikey M]

Twitch doesn't have mountains, dick head.

[Pepe]

I can't think of a less desirable place to visit than fucking Alabama.

[Spikey M]

You've not been to the West Midlands.

[Pepe]

Fair enough.

[Spikey M]

It's basically Alabama but with an even worse accent. And rain.

[Giggles]

And more interbreeding.

[igor_balis]

Of course he's from here ffs

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/jan/05/text-appeal-ceefax-recreated-by-20-year-old-northern-irish-man

Has my don's service gone down? :D

[Lofty]

Bro, just go on Twitch. She streamed a few days ago.

If she isn't drinking a cocktail of baby batter that has leaked out of her arse I'm not bothered.

[Ian]

Phweurgh.

[Shindig]

Four of the whitest people you'll find. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-59727161)

Topknot wearing a fucking tie and jeans to court whilst the others stick with hastily made campaign t-shirts.

[Lewis]

Is that embarrassing failed state shit really as simple as the jury agreeing that it was a good idea? Because that could get out of hand.

[Dquincy]

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[Manc]

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/jan/05/text-appeal-ceefax-recreated-by-20-year-old-northern-irish-man

Has my don's service gone down? :D

It isn't Ceefax without Bamboozle.

[Giggles]

It isn't Ceefax without Bamboozle.

Wasn’t that on the ITV/C4 version?

[Pepe]

Is that embarrassing failed state shit really as simple as the jury agreeing that it was a good idea? Because that could get out of hand.

As long as you are on 'the right side of history.'

[Lofty]

This flag shagging MP who is demanding the National Anthem played on tv everyday and kids singing it in school once a week is definitely wearing spunky Union Jack Y fronts.

[Ian]

I did like with that clip Nadine Dorries stretching the definition of 'fantastic' to absolute breaking point with "Fantastic question!"

Personally I think all programming should be replaced with the national anthem. Including streaming platforms. If they want to make money over here they can respect our customs.

Anyway, I came to post this:
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Couple of follow-up posts in the thread.

Very "Jimmy's over-the-road neighbour" vibes off this fella's dad.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'll support his proposal on the condition we change the national anthem to I Vow To Thee, or Land of 'ope and Glory. The Germanic dirge we currently have is a nonsense.

[Kikó]

If only we had a way to play the national anthem on demand like some sort of music or video platform.

It's another nonsense comment though to capture the attention of the "woke" and then say how they don't love Britain when Jim Felton makes a funny.

[Shindig]

Just re-write Three Lions and everyone's happy.

[Yevrah]

It's proper North Korea shit and we shouldn't be doing it.

[niko_cee]

Is that embarrassing failed state shit really as simple as the jury agreeing that it was a good idea? Because that could get out of hand.

I was always under the impression that if people basically admit offences in open court then the judge has to direct the jury to return a guilty verdict [they don't get to just decide whatever they want] so there must have been something else at play here. That said, I didn't know 'the right side of history' and/or 'Bristol City Council have been cunts for years' were actual legal defences.

[Ian]

I've no idea if that Secret Barrister on the Twitter is full of shit but they said:

Since the 17th century, juries have been entitled to acquit a defendant for any reason. They are not explicitly told this – they are directed by the judge that they must reach verdicts based on the evidence they have heard. But a judge cannot force a jury to convict. So the jury retains the prerogative to acquit, irrespective of the strength of the case against a defendant, and the courts cannot interfere (sometimes referred to as a “perverse verdict” or “jury nullification”). This principle is embedded into our common law.

I've just found the bit I saw tweeted but the full waffle is here: https://thesecretbarrister.com/2022/01/06/do-the-verdicts-in-the-trial-of-the-colston-4-signal-something-wrong-with-our-jury-system-10-things-you-should-know/

If anything that just strikes me as something that'll make those who want politicians to be able to change any verdicts they don't like the look of even more adamant about it.

[niko_cee]

That just reads as their lawyers threw enough shit at the wall and some of it stuck.

Pretty unusual for criminal damage to go to the crown court anyway so it was always likely they'd get off [I think you have a better than 50% chance of acquittal in a jury trial].

[Lewis]

They seem to have argued that a) the statue being up was the real crime; and b) that the people who 'owned' the statue wouldn't have minded. They both seem like balls given that the local government had consistently chosen not to remove it, but it sounds like there could be interesting implications for anyone bashing a paedophile because the state had chosen to be lenient and endanger the locals.

[Spikey M]

It was a political hearing with just as political an outcome.

Choose who you want to annoy; the statue staggers that will sit and tut and the Daily Mail tomorrow morning, or the Antifa bods that are likely to smash London up and Piss on Churchill.

[Yevrah]

It's a ridiculous outcome, with potential consequences far graver (as Lewis describes). Don't these things set precedents as well?

[Lewis]

I don't think they set formal precedent, but it will give people grounds to challenge things. That said, it will all still have to come under sanctioned vigilantism, so [increased] free rein to assault 'racists' (but not anyone directly involved in politics) and vandalising things on climate grounds. Something which the 'lol lets smash Karl Marx' professional right-wing wankers have all missed.

[Yevrah]

Looks like it might set some form of precedent without further clarification:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-59909823


Ms Braverman said she would decide whether to use powers that, as Attorney General, allow her to seek a Court of Appeal hearing so senior judges "have the opportunity to clarify the law for future cases".

[Lewis]

A Conservative government with a large majority would simply legislate to protect historic monuments with specific offences (and probably do so in about a week), rather than just treating it as if you kicked a fence down. Maybe if we get one one day.

Interesting to note that the original BBC story refers to taking the knee as a 'symbolic gesture of the BLM movement', having been assured for eighteen months solid that it definitely wasn't. That could do with some clarification as well.

[Kikó]

A jury can't set precedent.

[Yevrah]

A jury can't set precedent.

Maybe precedent is the wrong word then, but the outcome of this case appears to suggest that it's absolute fine to commit criminal damage if the target of such damage is deemed deserving of it. You might have to go to court, but get a sympathetic jury and you're golden.

No idea how they clarify it as anything other than that, so I'm genuinely intrigued.

[phonics]

It’s called Jury Nullification and has existed since juries have existed. It’s not the end of the world as we know it.


You might have to go to court, but get a sympathetic jury and you're golden.

Hence why you can challenge the jury and prosecution has the right to stand jurors too.

[Shindig]

Yeah, mistrials are a thing. Everyone has biases. The key thing is keeping your mouth shut and an open mind.

[Spikey M]

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:happycry: