News of the day

[Spikey M]

Easy, my dad squatted one in Brixton years ago. Even started making improvements. Had to laugh when he bemoaned some Serbians squatting it in his absence.

It's not so easy these days. Residential Squating is now criminal so the police can turf you out. Squating in Commercial buildings is still a civil matter though, so you can get a good 6 months out of an abandoned office block if you know what you're doing.

[Ian]

https://news.sky.com/story/mps-who-break-rules-on-second-jobs-should-be-punished-says-pm-boris-johnson-12465409

Man, he's gonna be embarrassed he said that when he finds out about all the corrupt shit.

[Spikey M]

It's funny, you don't see many uncorrupt countries having to hijack global conferences to announce what a jolly good bunch of honest blokes they are, but here we are. Needed more flags really.

[Lewis]

I would rather have MPs being openly bent in their second jobs than the sort of melts you would attract if they could only be an MP.

[Lofty]

A house full of angry Dennis Skinners :drool:

[Lofty]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-59264238

Surely if they are ignoring bullying complaints you could put a DMCA claim in instead?

[Shindig]

I'm not sure that'll hold up either. It's not like class lectures are intellectual property.

[Pepe]

"I think it's pushing some over the edge because of everything we've been through in the last two years," he said, adding that some people were "quite fragile coming out of the pandemic".

"They will quit their jobs, they will have to go off work with stress-related illness because of this. This will be the tipping point," he added.

:happycry:

[Spikey M]

You know what will stop kids from bullying you? Letting them know they're winning. That'll learn 'em.

[Offshore Toon]

You can tell he's fragile cause he won't admit it's him that's being pushed over the edge.

[Disco]

How are you a teacher and can't handle kids taking the piss? Surely that's half the job.

[mo]

Most kids have the decency to do it behind your back. Having your picture/video of you used to call you a nonce on TikTok is slightly different, I'd argue.

[Pepe]

The only appropriate course of action is to wear a body cam to class and then upload to Tiktok when the little runts piss their pants. Eye for an eye.

[Spikey M]

I don't imagine it's nice, but surely nobody thinks this is how you stop it from happening? When I was at school a boy successfully managed to get one of the teachers to cry and that was it. She was hounded relentlessly until she left. School kids are like sharks, if they scent blood it's game over... and here's this cunt crying to the BBC. :happycry:

The most successful teachers were the ones that could take the ribbing and give it back. Although the teacher that was best at that might have taken it a bit too far at times. (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/teacher-who-kicked-schoolgirl-branded-12469517)

[Disco]

I fervently hope Mr Fryer is still known as Lawnmower Man to this day, even though that story was almost certainly not true.

[Shindig]

Most kids have the decency to do it behind your back. Having your picture/video of you used to call you a nonce on TikTok is slightly different, I'd argue.

We had a teacher that would yell "Sit down" and "Shut up." whenever the kids got out of hand. It got to a point where the kids just yelled that back at him. The whole class. Every lesson.

[phonics]

Doing a hunger strike and then giving up with zero change is so pathetic.

[Lewis]

I think she's out soon enough anyway (unless they charge her with something else, which they might). Just in time for me to dislike the government enough to delude myself that she wasn't there doing everything the Iranians say she was.

[Shindig]

And in local news .... (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-59263071)

Diane Abbot's went straight in suggesting they shouldn't train students to be sex students. That's not what they're doing by the sounds of it.

[Bernanke]

I think having an Onlyfans counts as SW, so that adds to the pool.

[Dquincy]

Anyone taking interest in this Rittenhouse case in America? My limited reading on it suggests he'll get acquitted or not found guilty.

[niko_cee]

Those are the same things, but yeah, do they have one of those laws like the Florida one which led Zimmerman (was it?) to get off when he shot that black kid in 'self-defence'?

[Spikey M]

Shooting people you don't like on the pretence of protecting your property is as American as apple pie. I'm sure they'll find a way to clear him.

[Shindig]

Yeah, the only real obstacle is him justifying why he drove 4 hours from his home to do it. Even so, there's video evidence of him clearly in a position of self-defence. I.e. having a gun pulled on him, someone trying to crack him with a skateboard, etc.

[Lewis]

Big Man filled a void the local government created and killed a nonce doing it. When he gets off - because the case was weak anyway, and they have done a terrible job prosecuting it - and sues various parties into oblivion he should go on Joe Rogan and gloat.

[Lewis]

https://i.imgur.com/NBZUAo2.png

The memes are good as well.

[Shindig]

"Mate, just sneeze." was my favourite.

[Lofty]

The interesting thing will be when (it sort of has already but not as blatant) it's an Antifa pleb doing the self defence executions, what the reaction is like based on the precedent of his predictable acquittal.

[Mike]

Someone has blown up a taxi at the Womens in Liverpool
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/liverpool-womens-hospital-death-incident-today-b1957432.html

[Lofty]

Some reports suggest the taxi arrived already on fire so not a car bomb, which sounds more likely given the pictures I saw had no damage to anything except the taxi. Usually these bombs are rammed full of shrapnel for maximum effect.

EDIT: seen another picture now with a nearby car on fire and the subsequent response is very terror orientated.

[Lewis]

It appears to have been somebody with a bomb/suicide bomber in the taxi, the taxi driver clocked him acting suspiciously, locked him in the taxi, and he blew [himself] up. If that is indeed what happened fucking lol out loud at that absolute whopper. Out-witted by a Scouse cabbie. Get that man a medal and a new house.

[Dquincy]

Yeah, the only real obstacle is him justifying why he drove 4 hours from his home to do it. Even so, there's video evidence of him clearly in a position of self-defence. I.e. having a gun pulled on him, someone trying to crack him with a skateboard, etc.

One of the fellas who got shot is a right melt as well.

[Boydy]

https://twitter.com/LiamThorpECHO?t=Jyt3dq-NZb2HOxakCr--GA&s=09

Seems to be a pretty big police operation still ongoing in Liverpool. This guy's been covering it all evening. Is it some sort of hostage situation now or what?

[Gray Fox]

Lots of armed police showing up at near 1am says there's still some serious shit going down.

[Gray Fox]

Spoke to my sister back home and the word is that the fella got into the taxi and wanted to go somewhere else. One of the Cathedrals has been said but not sure if that's true. Cabbie has clocked the guy acting suspicious and refused to stop. Carried on to the nearest hospital and jumped out of the car locking the guy inside. Taxi driver is pretty torn up and obviously the guy with the bomb is now in a lot of pieces.

Armed police and negotiators have arrived at a street in the city connected to it and most of the street is evacuated now.

[John Arne]

Spoke to my sister back home and the word is that the fella got into the taxi and wanted to go somewhere else. One of the Cathedrals has been said but not sure if that's true. Cabbie has clocked the guy acting suspicious and refused to stop. Carried on to the nearest hospital and jumped out of the car locking the guy inside. Taxi driver is pretty torn up and obviously the guy with the bomb is now in a lot of pieces.

Armed police and negotiators have arrived at a street in the city connected to it and most of the street is evacuated now.

Sounds like they're both pretty torn up.

[John Arne]

Some bloke in the hospital reckons he heard the blast, looked at the window and saw the driver getting out AFTER the blast - which seems to contradict most rumours. No idea how he survived if that is the case.

[Giggles]

Normally when you heard of something like this the finger was pointing straight at us, but Taz and the lads have well and truly picked up that baton.

[Baz]

Why is it that when you see kids in military gear, it’s always the proper mongs?

[Shindig]

You never send your best and brightest.

[Adramelch]

Judging from my brother's experience in the greek police, the riot police and similar units (if that's what you are referring to) are sort of selected to be proper mongs, so that they can be radicalized easily and follow orders strictly.

[Baz]

I meant the losers who go to “cadets” and then parade round town dressed like a traditional Action Man around Remembrance Day, but I think your reasons are still correct.

[Waffdon]

Some bloke in the hospital reckons he heard the blast, looked at the window and saw the driver getting out AFTER the blast - which seems to contradict most rumours. No idea how he survived if that is the case.

The CCTV video of it shows exactly that. The driver was in the car when the explosion went off and then got out the car. Hardly locked the geezer in

[Waffdon]

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[Dquincy]

Imagine getting a taxi on the way to carry out a suicide bombing. :D

[Don]

That's a shoddy fucking bomb, complete lack of nails.

[SvN]

Aren't the doors of black cabs locked by default until the driver unlocks them?

[Kikó]

According to the Arctic monkeys, yes.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If anything, the suicide bomber was the hero, for selflessly blowing themselves up in a confined space, saving the lives of so many others.

[Spikey M]

Worst (best?) terrorist in history. 0/10 (10/10?).

[Ian]

I read about this one years ago and it's the one I tend to think of first:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomb_plot_against_the_Thomas_Jefferson_Cultural_Ce nter

[John Arne]

I read about this one years ago and it's the one I tend to think of first:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomb_plot_against_the_Thomas_Jefferson_Cultural_Ce nter

I love the specificity here...



Sa'ad Kahim, drove a Japanese-model car and parked...


A Japanese car... the absolute monsters.

[Kikó]

The Glasgow one that got punched has to be the worst.

Best is likely to be the obvious.

[Jimmy Floyd]

'Japanese-model car' is a beautifully 90s phrase. Like that clip when Ugo Ehiogu says his favourite drink is 'bottled lager'.

[Spikey M]

The Glasgow one that got punched has to be the worst.

Best is likely to be the obvious.

I'd forgotten about that one :D

[Disco]

It was a shit bomb but at least it went off, where does the shoebomber fall in this scale?

[Baz]

'Japanese-model car' is a beautifully 90s phrase. Like that clip when Ugo Ehiogu says his favourite drink is 'bottled lager'.

What clip? :D

[Ian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yajBDdKmk0s

I'd never seen this before. :D

"At the moment I'm into bottled lager."

[Giggles]

McGrath - the odd pint :D

[Jimmy Floyd]

I can't believe you've found that, Ian. I was starting to doubt myself.

[niko_cee]

Southgate. :face:

[Ian]

I can't believe you've found that, Ian. I was starting to doubt myself.

I would love to say some masterful Google-fu was employed but I literally just searched "Ugo ehiogu bottled lager" and went from there.

[Dquincy]

If anything, the suicide bomber was the hero, for selflessly blowing themselves up in a confined space, saving the lives of so many others.
Jimmy's Hot Takes

[Shindig]

The radio’s being a bit prophetic on that CCTV clip.

[Lofty]

The BBC reckon laddo wanted to go the hospital so that muddies the waters a bit. Hold off sticking the cabbie's medal in the post.

[Dquincy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yajBDdKmk0s

I'd never seen this before. :D

"At the moment I'm into bottled lager."

:D This is amazing.

"...bicardi and coke...usually a double."

[Spikey M]

Southgate. :face:

:D

[Lewis]

Hopefully he's having a few beers to celebrate pwning Roy Keane earlier.

[Luca]

If the bomb wasn’t powerful enough to give the cabby in the front seat more than a few scratches, doesn’t it point to some dimwits with a half-cocked idea for jihad, as opposed to some well-funded cell with connections to the Middle East?

Probably also why it flew under the radar.

[Smjffy]

:D This is amazing.

"...bicardi and coke...usually a double."

Mark Bosnich was the one.

Ribena....? Ribena and a line of coke, more like.

It was refreshing to see how candid footballers used to be, none of the usual generic statements being said with zero emotion.

[Spikey M]

Still not a double digit IQ amongst them, mind.

[Mellberg]

Yeah, Bozzie and McGrath are having us on. Taylor too, I think. Yorke sounds genuine, but I know what him and Bozzie were up to, so must just be a good blagger.

Thanks for sharing that. My first Villa team :cool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Consensus from his Chelsea days is that Mark Bosnich is one of the worst human beings ever to be involved in football. Not sure if that applied at Villa.

[Baz]

Who? Oh, Bozzie.

[Giggles]

At least nobody went with just Mark.

[igor_balis]

https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/216699182_204384554939945_1706853520852441659_n.jp g?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=19026a&_nc_ohc=OAmgepyEN_MAX-I-u6e&_nc_oc=AQm2FNXBosEGtYARrZdkF67nxcY7s2pZ5JPfyGlZhAh 5yCLsqLa-lFlKrpHIrWbh6wM&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=3c51b31a15bf6dd3ca0da15db0331003&oe=6199B448

[Lewis]

Mark Bosnich is the lol pundit on Australian 'soccer' coverage where they waaaay his drug use and his diet and that. What a life.

[Queenslander]

He has stolen a career as a pundit down here.

One of the thickest we have to offer.

[Boydy]

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[Lofty]

Not sure when exactly Remembrance Day became a one-upmanship contest but it definitely is for some now. In Wigan there is some lunatic with a nazi skeleton, horse wrapped in barbed wire and a machine gun nest in their front garden.

In contrast, my great grandad was quite a prolific soldier by all accounts but just chucked all his war stuff in a biscuit tin and banished it to the back of the shed.

[Ian]

https://i.ibb.co/F7Y1y62/image.png

[Spikey M]

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They shud respect are solders. They dide for are country. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Baz]

Not sure when exactly Remembrance Day became a one-upmanship contest but it definitely is for some now. In Wigan there is some lunatic with a nazi skeleton, horse wrapped in barbed wire and a machine gun nest in their front garden.

In contrast, my great grandad was quite a prolific soldier by all accounts but just chucked all his war stuff in a biscuit tin and banished it to the back of the shed.
Where are you living now?

[Kikó]

Not sure when exactly Remembrance Day became a one-upmanship contest but it definitely is for some now. In Wigan there is some lunatic with a nazi skeleton, horse wrapped in barbed wire and a machine gun nest in their front garden.

In contrast, my great grandad was quite a prolific soldier by all accounts but just chucked all his war stuff in a biscuit tin and banished it to the back of the shed.

I don't think those who actually served were ever that keen to talk about it or celebrate it like it is today. Those after it seem to have become obsessed with the myth of the glamour of "being at war".

[Giggles]

It's all just another extension of Brexit and all that chest beating shite now. From commemoration to triumphalism.

[Spikey M]

I wonder if they double down so hard because the alternative is admitting that our last worthwhile war ended 75 years ago and everything since has either been a waste of time (The Falklands) or Political tinkering to keep oil supply under control? Probably.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's not about war, it's become the closest thing we have to a national day/independence day. Millions want that sort of outlet for expressing national pride, whether the Guardian likes it or not.

[Lofty]

Where are you living now?

Leyland.

There is definitely a hard on for it all from the old lads who were too young for the big wars and now too old for any future war. The reality is the majority of people who went off to the glorified wars were mown down like dogs, died in horrible, preventable ways or survived knowing all their friends were dead. 100 poppies, please.

[Lewis]

It only went mental during the past twenty years, largely to conflate 'supporting' (whatever that means) the armed forces with supporting their pointless deployments. It could well be dialled down now, especially if there are other outlets for it (flags on butter).

[phonics]

It's not about war, it's become the closest thing we have to a national day/independence day. Millions want that sort of outlet for expressing national pride, whether the Guardian likes it or not.

It was very much about war and the politicians pushing it to cover for their shitty Middle Eastern exploits and then got rolled into part of the culture war after they tried to use it to batter the BBC as a bunch of lefties who hated the troops.

Nothing to do with ‘national pride’.

[Kikó]

These days you can't even say you're English.

[Giggles]

Throwing a chair through a Spanish cafe window says more than words ever could.

[Shindig]

They said he could take one.

[mo]

On the fetishising of remembrance, I give you: Why More Teenagers Need to Die for No Reason

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She is thick as mince. Best mates with Calvin Robinson :happycry:

[Spikey M]

The NHS system that never happened, those dickhead Citizenship cards that never happened, even the Lateral Flow Test shenanigans. NOTHING comes close to how big a waste of fucking money this is. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59320576)

[Shindig]

It's astonishing. We should be good at building railways and infrastructure.

[Lofty]

I had to write an essay about this for a course I did at work but essentially the reason we are wank is due to short sightedness. When the electrified the Heathrow line in the 90s a lot of lessons were learned and skills developed that were then lost by not commissioning any other projects. By the time the next one was commissioned everyone involved in the last one had retired, so they had to start from scratch with the talent pool.

Compare that with a country like Germany where they constantly have a slate of projects going to ensure they retain a pool of talent that can work on whatever they need.

There is no understanding of the railway at a political level. They announced £500m to reopen closed stations and lines a while backed which was opened lolled at in my office, local councillors reckoning it would only cost £15m to reopen their line that has been shut for decades. It cost £7m to relay the coping stones at Wigan North Western so good luck with that, Grandad.

[Smjffy]

Stumbled across this on Twitter. Not quite sure what the problem is.

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Never heard of him before but sounds like quite a top guy tbh.

[Lewis]

It's a joke at this point isn't it. The business case was weak at its starting price and non-existent at its current (and eventual) price. Then they moved the argument to capacity, but that doesn't necessitate high-speed rail, and they only plan to have a few trains running on it anyway, so you could just upgrade the other main lines or build new ones for a fraction of the cost. Local authorities were bounced into it because it was that or nothing, when every single one of them could spend the money better, and then you could just re-build the Great Central Main Line which follows much of the same route. I always felt part of it was an indirect way of pulling the Midlands into the London commuter orbit and preserving South East property prices, but now it's simply at the too many people would look stupid if it was canned stage (see: Afghanistan).

[Raoul Duke]

I always felt part of it was an indirect way of pulling the Midlands into the London commuter orbit and preserving South East property prices

It's pretty much always been about that, no? Plus some grift to chuck their pals some extra money

[Don]

This Azeem fella looked a fucking despicable melt crying at changing room banter that happened 50 years ago but the lizard-hating comments development is class. Gave it but can't take it. Classic melt. Can't even be arsed to find out the details, you can spot these cunts from a mile off.

[Lewis]

Let's all just racially abuse each other and get along.

[Don]

This lad's doesn't count, did you see the quality of his apology? Like a Man Utd player.

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/nov/18/english-cricket-nuclear-option-regulator-sports-minister-racism

"More than a decade ago"! Sean Ingle, take a bow, son.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He's made the mistake of having a genuine case on the national stage, once you rile up the Piers Morgans with a bit of truth-telling on their mates it's all over. The very power structures he exposed, doing their thing.

They need to boil it down to a playground game of who called who a Paki or a Jew, because that way they stay in charge. Real moment of fear on multiple fronts for the thicko Tory establishment this week and how it shows.

[Baz]

About time something like this happened: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/offenders-to-be-banned-from-drinking-to-cut-alcohol-fuelled-crime

[Dquincy]

About time something like this happened: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/offenders-to-be-banned-from-drinking-to-cut-alcohol-fuelled-crime

Add castration to the proposal.

[-james-]

Has anyone broken the news to Tim Martin yet?

[Giggles]

I hope GS got one.


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[Spikey M]

We're all British, does it really matter?

[Giggles]

Yes, indeed and you are.

[Ian]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/

Fuck's sake, Niko, what've you been doing? :nono:

[Spikey M]

What in the name of virginity is that shit?

[Giggles]

As Jimmy or Yev says from time to time, heads have gone.

[Spikey M]

Yev would say THE HEADS have gone.

[Kikó]

Talking about heads gone.

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[niko_cee]

40k is for the worst kind of losers, but yeah, that's something else.

What the fuck are you doing reading things on the warhammer community anyway Ian?

[Spikey M]

Talking about heads gone.

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:cab:

[Giggles]

Talking about heads gone.

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Hopefully she's getting presented with a medal at it.

[Dquincy]

I often forget what a bunch of nerdy vrigin weirdos you all are. Well, the majority of you.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Talking about heads gone.

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She was also selling Merch:

https://www.ladbible.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=648,quality=70,format=jpeg,fit=pad,dpr=1/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-images.ladbible.com%2Fs3%2Fcontent%2F2c894561618d2 359ac50115c42edc419.png

But the site got pulled down, presumably by Range Rover.

[Kikó]

I'm going fwiw.

[Offshore Toon]

That's maybe the most mental thing I've ever seen.

[Pepe]

Boydy will be camping there three days before.

[Spikey M]

That's maybe the most mental thing I've ever seen.

It is AGGRESSIVELY American.

[Disco]

If it's Warhammer then the heads haven't gone they're just sold separately £6.50 each thanks very much.

[Ian]

I often forget what a bunch of nerdy vrigin weirdos you all are. Well, the majority of you.

We're not all "ask a fella on a Football Manager forum about a woman who's recently recently started work in his office" (https://www.thethirdhalf.co.uk/showthread.php?2153-The-All-New-Jobs-Thread&p=509768&viewfull=1#post509768) levels of studliness, Quincy, cut us some slack.


40k is for the worst kind of losers, but yeah, that's something else.

What the fuck are you doing reading things on the warhammer community anyway Ian?

A person even nerdier than I that I follow on Twitter posted about it.

Is the one with Skaven the 'cool' one? I'm taking notes in case I ever have the disposable income to go balls deep on the nerdiness.

[Ian]

If it's Warhammer then the heads haven't gone they're just sold separately £6.50 each thanks very much.

:D

[Spikey M]

We're not all "ask a fella on a Football Manager forum about a woman who's recently recently started work in his office" (https://www.thethirdhalf.co.uk/showthread.php?2153-The-All-New-Jobs-Thread&p=509768&viewfull=1#post509768) levels of studliness, Quincy, cut us some slack.


:D

[niko_cee]

Is the one with Skaven the 'cool' one? I'm taking notes in case I ever have the disposable income to go balls deep on the nerdiness.

Skaven are cool in Total War: Warhammer II. They were sort of forgotten about in fantasy before the [old] world was blown up and replaced with banter (https://www.escapistmagazine.com/8-ridiculous-rules-from-the-new-warhammer-age-of-sigmar/). I don't think they've made it back yet either, which probably only serves to heighten their coolness. You probably need a private income to collect them though.

[Dquincy]

We're not all "ask a fella on a Football Manager forum about a woman who's recently recently started work in his office" (https://www.thethirdhalf.co.uk/showthread.php?2153-The-All-New-Jobs-Thread&p=509768&viewfull=1#post509768) levels of studliness, Quincy, cut us some slack.


None of you are, and that's the problem.

And I'm not sure how to fix this.

[Ian]

I'll endeavour to say "Phwoar" more often as a starting point.

[Dquincy]

Thank you x

[Boydy]

Boydy will be camping there three days before.
I can appreciate a tick ting but I'm not that mental.

[Spikey M]

She was more of a wobbly wing.

Can I get a phwoooar?

[Ian]

Phwoar!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

[Ian]

I'd walk it into HER net if you know what I mean.

[Dquincy]

This is appalling.

Try harder.

[Raoul Duke]

Phwoar!

Phwoarhammer

[Shindig]

Phwoarhammer Pwoarhty Phwoarsand

[Ian]

Total Phwoar: Phwoarhammer.


This is appalling.

Try harder.

I'd try HER harder.

[Ian]

I see the Rittenhouse jury has taken a strong stance in favour of just mooching about with guns and shooting people up and pretending you had good intentions.

[Shindig]

By all accounts, Rittenhouse was effectively firing in a scuffle. Y'know, self-defence. The paedo with a deathwish started a fight with him. Everyone involved looks really dumb.

[niko_cee]

I was confused as I saw that story, and then saw it dated the 16th and was wondering how I'd missed it.

It's America. Wandering around and shooting people is the norm.

[Spikey M]

16th

Phwoar?

[Lewis]

By all accounts, Rittenhouse was effectively firing in a scuffle. Y'know, self-defence. The paedo with a deathwish started a fight with him. Everyone involved looks really dumb.

Killed a nonce, beat the Deep State murder angle, and will be set for life when he sues the media into oblivion. All by nineteen. :cool:

[Kikó]

There's nothing cool about that story. What a complete mess America is.

[Lewis]

A rare NARRATIVE speedbump from the dying empire. But yes, we (including Europe) need to block all of their media like the East Germans did.

[Shindig]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59356081

Have the bottle to pull the second amendment, then.


During last year's election campaign, Mr Biden tweeted a video that appeared to link Rittenhouse, without any evidence, to white supremacists.

Oh.

[Kikó]

He was with the proud boys. He's definitely a fascist cunt.

[Pepe]

Did anyone expect the trial to go any other way?

[Baz]

The majority of American gaming forum ResetEra seemed to.

[Lofty]

Kyle Acquittenhouse.

[phonics]

Think people should just watch the judge in that trial and realise how broken the system is.

[niko_cee]

I haven't really followed the ins and outs of it at all, but from what I have read it seems that the prosecution were fairly useless. Not that they necessarily had much of a hope of winning.

[Shindig]

That was my understanding too. The witness testimony went a long way, too.

[Lewis]

Beyond all the NARRATIVE and wank the basic fact is that America lets you shoot people attacking you. He shouldn't have been there etc. and so on, but he was, and they attacked him.

[Pepe]

That is the beginning and end of it, yes.

[phonics]

Shouting fire in a crowded place is illegal but shooting anyone who then rushes you is self defense is a great system.

[Spikey M]

Kinder Eggs: too dangerous.
Hello Kitty child size Rifles: fine.

[phonics]

Zimmerman was the ultimate test case.

Guy attacks an unarmed kid for no reason, kid fights back and wins the fight so shooting him multiple times counts as legal self defense.

[niko_cee]

Zimmerman was the ultimate test case.

Guy attacks an unarmed kid for no reason, kid fights back and wins the fight so shooting him multiple times counts as legal self defense.

Exactly. I have no idea if they have the same laws (those were some funky Floridian statutory expansions of the concept of self-defence no?) that led to that in Minnesota (was it?) but if they did then there would have been no point even going to trial. As it is (assuming they don't have those laws) it's still probably 'self-defence' even in the vanilla situation. The problem is being allowed to walk the streets with an AR-15, not the legal mechanics of what happens when you defend yourself from a perceived threat.

[Shindig]

Open carry really kicked it off. Conceal that and you walk right through. I'm still stunned the dumpy little gimp didn't think that far ahead but carried medical gear with him.

[mikem]

Exactly. I have no idea if they have the same laws (those were some funky Floridian statutory expansions of the concept of self-defence no?) that led to that in Minnesota (was it?) but if they did then there would have been no point even going to trial. As it is (assuming they don't have those laws) it's still probably 'self-defence' even in the vanilla situation. The problem is being allowed to walk the streets with an AR-15, not the legal mechanics of what happens when you defend yourself from a perceived threat.

70% of it. Most states have similar. Likely prosecutors choose the wrong charges due to public pressure because nobody understands the technical nature of the law. Reckless endangerment (“I don’t really have a clue as the the exact charge in Wisconsin) would probably have been better but the left / right divide would still be upset because we all pretend we understand a technical area we are genuinely clueless about.

30% is that defendant’s rights are very robust here. You wouldn’t know it due to our prison population but if you can afford competent defense prosecuting cases is tough. Most people can’t so they fall prey to the plea bargain system and can’t take access of their rights. Leading to shit cops who get away with being shit, prosecutors with political ambitions not really being able to actively try cases, and poor people having the same rights but lacking the ability to actually access them.

[phonics]

Tldr:
Law is just the judge working out ‘who is the asshole’ and if he’s on your side you win.

[Pepe]

:face:

[mikem]

When less than 2% of criminal cases go to trial, judges really are not going to be the issue. Here are federal stats, if you are interested:

https://judicature.duke.edu/articles/going-going-but-not-quite-gone-trials-continue-to-decline-in-federal-and-state-courts-does-it-matter/

[Spikey M]

The Simpsons have done it again. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-59331975)

[Dquincy]

That Christmas parade in Wisconsin. Fucking hell.

[Shindig]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59369492

"Damn protesters, I'll fix 'em." <hits school marching band>

[Spikey M]

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That's Baz's next album sorted anyway. Might be able to get an NFT of the car.

[Giggles]

It's a wonder it's being reported at all given the 'direction' of the attack.

[Spikey M]

Reversing at speed is more difficult I suppose.

[Boydy]

Shouldn't have been having a Christmas parade in mid-November, should they?

[Dquincy]

Shouldn't have been having a Christmas parade in mid-November, should they?

Maybe it was for Thanksgiving.

[Spikey M]

What, the "Christmas Parade"?

[Dquincy]

Nah, deffo Thanksgiving parade.

[Disco]

Don't lecture the Irish on parades, they have more experience than most.

[Giggles]

Maybe it was for Thanksgiving.

The dinner is the only similarity between Christmas and Thanksgiving. They don't do the trees and all that.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59372210

:D

[Kikó]

Isn't that a typical rugby indoctrination?

[Waffdon]

https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/news/12040/12476222/kevin-sinfield-raises-over-600000-by-completing-101-mile-run-in-24-hours

That isn’t normal. What a freak

[Lewis]

Nice they're raising money for him though.

[Spikey M]

:D

[Alex]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59372210

:D

Why would the mother want, or allow, a national news story to be made out of that? Not even anonymously either. "Here is the full name and even pictures of my six year old son who got vomited on by a stranger!". Was it not embarrassing and unpleasant enough for the lad in the first place? It seems like a very strange parenting choice.

[Boydy]

Probably to get free stuff.

[Spikey M]

It's not a parenting choice, it's an attention seeking choice.

[Shindig]

If I was to guess, her kid being threw up on really ruined her day.

[Spikey M]

I can only speak as a Dad, but it's the sort of thing you get mad about, laugh about and begrudge having to sort out all at the same time. But the primary concern would be getting photos for his 18th birthday / stag t-shirts, not phoning the beeb.

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-59386281

I wouldn't even go public in this country, too many tales of friends and family turning on people. Why the fuck would you do so in Mexico of all places? No offence Pep, like.

[Pepe]

$500 tickets? Damn, they used to be $15 back in the day.

I also wouldn't go public anywhere and definitely not in Mexico. Kidnap guaranteed.

[Spikey M]

Sort yourself out Lofty, ffs. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-59401037)

[Lewis]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-59386281

I wouldn't even go public in this country, too many tales of friends and family turning on people. Why the fuck would you do so in Mexico of all places? No offence Pep, like.

A family in my town won a few million in the late-nineties and they all fell out. The local rumour was that the ticket was actually bought by the teenage son, so the parents had to claim it, and then they pissed 'his' money up the wall and nobody could do anything about it. :harold:

[Spikey M]

They've just robbed that off Only Fools and Horses, haven't they?

[Lewis]

The family definitely won the lottery and fell out, so if that is less cretinous than whatever really happened then lol.

[Spikey M]

Speaking of which, how are you getting on with your Milf in law these days Mahow?

[Lofty]

Sort yourself out Lofty, ffs. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-59401037)

None of that story surprises me, unfortunately.

[Kikó]

https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/26/mum-seven-shocked-appalled-open-pack-aldi-bourbon-biscuits-find-none-filled-chocolate-buttercream-12303777/?s=09

Outrageous

[Jimmy Floyd]

Curious Britons were also keen to know what love was and to pick up some tips on how to flirt and kiss.

Fuck, wish I'd been around in 2012 for this knowledge.

[Ian]

Are we sure there wasn't just a Best of Foreigner album released or something?

[Kikó]

Sorry for posting links from 9 years ago.

[Ian]

I didn't even question how old the article was I just assumed something had gone over my head.

[Spikey M]

2012 was a great time to be alive. I think 2007 was the best year of my life, but 5 years either side of it were mega.

Fuck I'm old.

[Ian]

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So Queen Latifah starring in the Equalizer has reverberated backwards in time and caused men to be violent twats.

Makes sense.

I also love the notion that anybody sane would think James Bond, a man who beats up and kills people for a living, is the sort of role model to stop men doing a crime.

[Boydy]

*googles* 2019 intake. Yeah, thought so.

[Disco]

He's objectively wrong within the first few seconds so I assume it doesn't get any better.

[Lewis]

This twelve year old girl being murdered by teenage boys is failed state stuff, and the sort of thing, rather than social media abuse, that we ought to be having moral panics about (see also: that lad who got shot in Birmingham by feral cunts). When Damilola Taylor got killed it was the biggest thing ever, and they had us writing about it at school. Now it's just meh.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Social media abuse is a much friendlier topic for middle class moral posturing, which is what people in power are interested in doing. Difficult questions are only allowed to be asked of lower-educated sectors like footballers and the police.

The David Amess thing suddenly turning into a social media abuse debate despite having literally nothing to do with it should be studied in sociology departments, and would be if they weren't part of the problem.

[Lewis]

Remember when teen pregnancies were a big issue? That is sort of related, being at the thinner end of the paying retards to produce more retards wedge. Maybe if you rolled knife crime into school meal discourse you might get some results.

[Boydy]

Whatever happened to teenage pregnancies being a big issue? Seemed like it was in the papers all the time in the noughties. Did they fall or what?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Think they've plummeted (along with drink, drugs and everything else) since the advent of smartphones. Much less boredom these days.

[Lewis]

It presumably rose through the nineties and beyond as kids started shagging more but there wasn't any free contraception or 'education' about how it would ruin your life. Once they got that in place it appears to have tumbled. That sort of thing seems to inform the knife crime debate, since people think a youth club and the EMA coming back would stop sub-intelligent cretins getting into fights and escalating it.

[Raoul Duke]

Think they've plummeted (along with drink, drugs and everything else) since the advent of smartphones. Much less boredom these days.

Or much more porn, which is kinda the same thing...

[phonics]

Sex, generally, is down massively.

[Manc]

Tier 1 source.

[Lofty]

:D

[Don]

:rasta:

[phonics]

Brutal.

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59504943

That credit bubble just keeps on growing.

[Spikey M]

This (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-5) is proper lol.

They made 5% of the cladding that was put on Grenfell and Michael Gove - of all people - is calling on Mercedes to end the deal?

Mate, Mercedes made half the shit the Nazi's used during WW2. They've got UBS that were balls deep in the 2008 market crash and Hewlett Packard who made the worst printer I've ever owned. Truly an evil organisation.

[Spikey M]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/michael-gove-grenfell-donations-b1969245.html


"I am writing to ask that you take the same principled stance in relation to the decision by the Conservative Party to take millions of pounds in donations from property developers responsible for flats that have been covered in the same dangerous ACM cladding since the fire in 2017."


"It also includes personal donations to the Prime Minister, including a donation of nearly £25,000 from a major shareholder in Arconic, the company that made Grenfell Tower's combustible cladding in 2017 - the year the fire took place."

It's almost like he has an ulterior motive.

These people are beyond shame.

[Disco]

You left out Petronas who are probably the worst of the lot.

[Kikó]

The Tory party can get away with it. The UK system is now endemic for corruption and sleaze.

[Shindig]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59536433

What a daft question to ask him.

[Lewis]

Does anyone take money off the fire brigade who killed the people who might have got out? You could end up with your head right up your arse going down that road, so hopefully Mercedes start publishing crank letters about every shitty government/opposition decision.

[Spikey M]

Does anyone take money off the fire brigade who killed the people who might have got out? You could end up with your head right up your arse going down that road, so hopefully Mercedes start publishing crank letters about every shitty government/opposition decision.

The Fire Brigade got off far too lightly for their part in that. Sticking to a "stay put, we'll come and get you" strategy in a post 9/11 world is criminal. Especially when they couldn't get past the first few floors, but the people on the phoneline were still telling people on the top floor to stay put as their rooms filled with smoke. Only the people that ignored them survived.

[Yevrah]

I thought about this a lot when watching the 9/11 documentaries, but if I was in a situation with any hint of fire there is not a chance in hell I'd stay put.

[Spikey M]

There's a Dispatches on Channel 4 about it that I'd recommend. The Fire Brigade barely even accept wrong doing. It's mental.

[Shindig]

I assume it's to stop clogged stairwells during any rescue attempts. I'd be out like a shot, though.

[Spikey M]

I assume it's to stop clogged stairwells during any rescue attempts. I'd be out like a shot, though.
The official line is that each of the flats are cleaned cement structures in their own right and that fire transfer between them is basically impossible, so staying put SHOULD have been the right response. But that kind of falls apart when you can quite clearly see that the entire fucking building is on fire and it was getting in window by window.

There was just nobody willing to deviate from the fire pla that was in place, even though the fire plan was for an individual flat being on fire. Not the entire bock.

[Spikey M]

I assume it's to stop clogged stairwells during any rescue attempts. I'd be out like a shot, though.
The official line is that each of the flats are closed cement structures in their own right and that fire transfer between them is basically impossible. So staying put SHOULD have been the right response. But that kind of falls apart when you can quite clearly see that the entire fucking building is on fire and it was getting in window by window by just looking at it.

There was just nobody willing to deviate from the fire plan that was in place, even though the fire plan was for an individual flat being on fire. Not the entire block.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It was a very interesting dynamic how the fire brigade got zero criticism for basically doubling the death toll at Grenfell, compared to what the police get in situations of much lesser seriousness. It's a media narrative thing of some sort.

[Spikey M]

I suppose when people die because of the Fire Brigade it's usually a failure/accident. When people die because of the police it's it's usually through an act of violence.

It's hard to spin a shooting in the same way as you can people dying in a fire. You can't just say "we did our best" in the same way.

[Lewis]

Stay home, protect the LFB, erm...

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59540781


Other planned measures include using drug dealers' seized phones to message their clients to discourage drug use.

Genius. Problem solved lads.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I always get reminded of this scene in the Wire when policy wonks start talking about drugs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMtQ2vnlYWE

[Lofty]

I thought about this a lot when watching the 9/11 documentaries, but if I was in a situation with any hint of fire there is not a chance in hell I'd stay put.

Full Rescorla is the only option in any building damage scenario and the only cunts advising you stay put are the ones in a position of safety.

[Spikey M]

SVN needs to step his game up. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59554585)

[Yevrah]

"Last time I did [this] I cried," Mr Garg told the staff on the call.

What an absolute pervert.

[Pepe]

I love the idea of there being better and worse ways to fire someone. I mean, don't laugh in their faces (or they might come murder you), but if I am going to be fired, who the fuck cares if it is through a Zoom call, a meeting in the office, or a fucking letter?

[Shindig]

I've been sacked in worse ways. "We just need your badge. We'll replace it tomorrow." And then I get a call from the agency as soon as I've clocked out. :D

[Spikey M]

Logically it makes very little difference whether you lose your job via text message or a one on one meeting, but from a personal stand point it definitely gives you the measure of the man. In this instance my measurement tells me he will be a manlet. 5' 8" maximum. I bet he loved it.

[Spikey M]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theparadise.ng/vishal-garg-ceo-better-com-wiki-bio-age-wife-ethnicity-net-worth-facts/amp/


In centimeters – 178 CM approx
In meters- 1.78 m
In Feet Inches – 5.8

Boom.

[Pepe]

One on one meetings with 900 people? Nah, fuck that. They were probably all WFH wankers anyway.

[Spikey M]

He'd have various underlings that could have done it. There's no reason for a CEO to muddy their hands with it.

So he does it because he wants to and no doubt had a raging below average erection whilst doing so.

[Manc]

Being let go over zoom/teams is brutal tbh. The awkwardness will stay with me forever.

[Pepe]

So he does it because he wants to and no doubt had a raging below average erection whilst doing so.

At least someone got something out of it.

[Yevrah]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59559834

Wonder where that leaves LGBQT+.

[Lofty]

In a call that large you could probably shout 'fuck off you twat' and get away with it.