News of the day

[Yevrah]

They probably didnt even want to murder Mark Duggan in cold blood and then plant a pistol on him but Twitter told them he was a bad man so they just shot him 7 times.

I've genuinely no idea how or why you think I'm saying that or anything like it.

[phonics]

The former head of the met said ‘when we heard what he did we said we don’t consider him a police officer’. It literally doesn’t matter what any of them do. The institution protects itself. Nothing to do with Twitter, public opinion, the law, anything. It’s rotten to the core. They will take no responsibility for anything ever. Any police officer who does something illegal is either protected by the met or has done something so illegal and unethical that they cannot be protected and thrown overboard. That’s how it works. The institution is corrupt.

[Yevrah]

The former head of the met said ‘when we heard what he did we said we don’t consider him a police officer’. It literally doesn’t matter what any of them do. The institution protects itself. Nothing to do with Twitter, public opinion, the law, anything. It’s rotten to the core.

Yes, but the public outrage should have been focused on this and it wasn't, it was instead telling me, as a man, that I shouldn't be wolf whistling at Women. Something I never have done nor ever will.

[phonics]

The public outrage doesn’t matter one fucking bit. It hasnt effected anything. You’re just weirdly annoyed about a bunch of people you don’t know who weren’t speaking to you to stop being a creep and you’re mad about it months later.

[Yevrah]

The public outrage doesn’t matter one fucking bit. It hasnt effected anything.

So you'd agree that it was misplaced then?

[phonics]

The Met killed Mark Duggan and the public opinion concentrating on it resulted in… absolutely no change and they sent anyone who participated in said public outrage to jail for 2-3x longer than the offence they comitted suggested sentence was to teach them a lesson.

Unless the outrage is anything less than ‘I think we should round them all up and kill them’ and it succeeds. Who cares?

[Yevrah]

Yeah, you're right, no-one should ever bother focusing protest or outrage properly again.

[phonics]

Yevrah, to put it plainly… in the middle of a petrol shortage caused by absolutely nothing. I don’t think misplaced public outrage matters at all. Unless it’s the entire country ganging together and murdering/imprisoning the upper echelons of society in a bolshevikesque revolution. It doesn’t matter.

The people who let Saville rape kids, cover up the Duggan murder, let this shit happen, it’s all the same people.

[Yevrah]

That's sort of the point I'm making, in that so many of these public outrages are so misplaced these days they've lost before they've even started and it's giving those who've fucked up the easiest ride ever.

[phonics]

Technically you’re misplacing your outrage right now.

The whole #shewasjustwalkinghome and wolf whistle thing was before anyone knew it was a copper in the first place. Then we found out and the coppers turned up to her vigil and smashed peoples heads in for daring to turn up to it. And we’ve since spent the next year having to listen to Milwall fans And GB News saying it’s cultural Marxism to say it’s bad.

[Yevrah]

Hang on, didn't we know after about a day it was a copper?

[phonics]

Just remembered the irony of those coppers smashing heads in citing ‘covid regulations’ and got real sad.

Saw your post Yev I’ll check but I don’t think that’s true.

[phonics]

Hang on, didn't we know after about a day it was a copper?

Just checked. It was a week.

[phonics]

Also absolutely perfect that the cops clearly beat the shit out of him for making them look bad and covered it up.

On 10 March, the day Everard's remains were discovered, Couzens was re-arrested on suspicion of murder.[20] On 11 March, Couzens was hospitalised following a head injury sustained in custody; he was again briefly hospitalised the following day after a similar injury.[4][37] After the incident on 11 March, police said the injury was sustained while he was alone in his cell.[38

[Dquincy]

Missing man joins search party looking for him. :D

3rd para from the bottom is brilliant.

http://news.sky.com/story/turkey-missing-man-joins-search-party-looking-for-himself-12421588

[Ian]

Also absolutely perfect that the cops clearly beat the shit out of him for making them look bad and covered it up.

On 10 March, the day Everard's remains were discovered, Couzens was re-arrested on suspicion of murder.[20] On 11 March, Couzens was hospitalised following a head injury sustained in custody; he was again briefly hospitalised the following day after a similar injury.[4][37] After the incident on 11 March, police said the injury was sustained while he was alone in his cell.[38

Them police station steps are notoriously slippery.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm not sure 'He punched himself in the face, honest guv, wink wink' constitutes a cover-up.

[Spikey M]

I'm also not sure "we kicked the shit out of him" needs covering up too much in cases like this. Wrong as it may be, it probably has most people's support. I'd have got a few kicks in.

[Lofty]

I doubt there was any internal excuse making about what did or didn't happen when he was in custody, probably more like this:

https://youtu.be/2TMukcAYXq8

[-james-]

Lol at this from the defence


"But he did all he could after he was arrested to minimise the wicked harm that he did and in our respectful submission there is reason to draw back from what the prosecution invite you to do."

That was after he set her on fire and dumped her in a pond aye?

[Yevrah]

Can you imagine rocking up for work and finding out your job for the next six months is defending that thing.

[Disco]

So he put her out, that has to count for something.

[Boydy]

Whole life sentence.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Some of the quote tweets are the best.


still not enough but the most possible. sobbing. this shouldn’t have had to happen, there were massive massive failures in the system that allowed this to happen that need to be addressed and changed immediately. a complete overhaul with hundreds - if not thousands - fired.

Thousands fired :D

[Lewis]

They probably didnt even want to murder Mark Duggan in cold blood and then plant a pistol on him but Twitter told them he was a bad man so they just shot him 7 times.

lol

[Spikey M]

Some of the quote tweets are the best.



Thousands fired :D

My favourite have been the ones asking what they're meant to do if a lone policeman tries to talk to them.

Run, love. Run for your life.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I see it's national shit on the police day again. Imagine if we had a flawless organisation of 50,000 odd people who never fucked up. That would be a fine day.

I reckon one district of London (let's make it the safest one, to make things fair, and keep commutes short) should be handed over to a force of Guardian columnists for a year, on police pay of course, with all the relevant training provided. Let's see how well they get on.

[Spikey M]

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Her name wasn't that bad mate.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He has a point, in that if her name was Latifa or Noora he wouldn't have given enough of a fuck to send that tweet.

[Pepe]

Thousands fired :D

I think that you should start a national movement. I have a catchy phrase you can chant: 'Defund the police!'

[John Arne]

I don't consume lots of lots of UK news, but what I have seems to be weirdly focused on the fact that he was a copper... Are people expecting such a large organisation to have no complete nut jobs in its employ? Presumably he didn't kill her because he was a copper, more that he was a bit of a mentalist. Also, the vast majority of murder victims are men, yet, once again, this is being phrased as a 'women aren't safe on the streets'. It's a bit weird.

[Baz]

Has anyone reported on how short her skirt was?

[Pepe]

Lewis declared shorts season over, so I am guessing that she was wearing pants.

[niko_cee]

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Her name wasn't that bad mate.

Her name was Robert Poulsen.

[Baz]

Lewis declared shorts season over, so I am guessing that she was wearing pants.So it wasn’t even deserved. What a monster.

[Yevrah]

Shakira: Singer attacked by a pair of wild boars https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58747464

I think that story has everything.

[Pepe]

How about

Don’t follow us around the park
Don’t roar at us
Don’t steal our purses
Don’t force us to shoot you and shoot our partners instead

[Shindig]

Her name was Shakira.

[Gray Fox]

#BoarLivesMatter

[Shindig]

"They're picking us off like game." An actual quote from today from the wrinkled Reclaim These Streets founder.

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58746701

:happycry:

[Shindig]

There's no deceit in that.

[Queenslander]

Humoristic has to be the most autist word used to describe a prank.



"He stirred up my curatorial staff and he also stirred me up a bit, but I also had a laugh because it was really humoristic,"

[-james-]

https://news.sky.com/video/sarah-everard-murder-wayne-couzens-police-interview-in-full-12422146

Lmao what a maggot. Pretty great seeing him realise he's fucked.

[Shindig]

Yeah, sure. Criminals pressure policemen into doing crime all the time.

[Lewis]

It was a very shit cover story/attempted cover up considering he must have had some understanding of just how hard it is to get away with murdering somebody, so you wonder whether the urge to do it is so strong that you just convince yourself that yeah they will buy that shit cover story, won't catch me if I hire a car, etc. The fucking mongs who stab people in broad daylight, or kill their own kids and say they dropped them, are literally just that. They genuinely don't have the intelligence to consider things like the million CCTV cameras or forensics. But he can't be one of those, which is another thing that makes is all the more noncey.

[-james-]

It's very strange. He's clearly thought about it for ages and planned it in detail, but the plan involves hiring a car in his own name and then driving it around, and committing the crime, in the middle of London. Can't possibly have thought he would get away with it.

[Lewis]

It would stand to reason that you could convince yourself that your plan/cover story would work. People convince themselves of all sorts of shit in all walks of life for lower stakes reasons - political shit, anti-vaccine, Mark Duggan was murdered, Juventus are good - so if you really, really, really wanted to rape somebody, but were still capable of thinking beyond the initial impulse (unlike a lot of criminal retards), you could surely talk yourself into thinking your scheme was a winner.

[-james-]

Must have been a power thing, wanting to do it with his badge in London. Probably could have ended up on the leaderboards if he'd done it in the middle of nowhere.

[phonics]

Is why I find that show where people have to evade being found so fascinating. I think I’d be really good at it.

[phonics]

lol

If you can look at the official story of that and think ‘makes sense’ and not ‘someone involved didn’t want him talking’ then you’re less of a legit conservative than I thought.

The gun they were ‘threatened’ with was found 10 feet away over a fence. And the only bullet a police took was another officers mp5. It just makes no sense. Someone in the Met was selling drugs and killed him.

My aunts boyfriend got mullered by 3 guys after asking the next door neighbour to move one of their multiple ‘ice cream’ vans off his parking spot and the police said that he was the one trying to beat them up. Even the judge didn’t believe it. It’s just being a realist.

[phonics]

I see it's national shit on the police day again. Imagine if we had a flawless organisation of 50,000 odd people who never fucked up.

Might disagree with me but At least I’ve been consistent on the issue.

[Giggles]

Is why I find that show where people have to evade being found so fascinating. I think I’d be really good at it.

How would you find the time to do that and be a professional NFL kicker?

[phonics]

How would you find the time to do that and be a professional NFL kicker?

No one goes missing more than an NFL kicker.

[Queenslander]

Enjoy prison bin chicken.


https://youtu.be/QZjeBxM2nOg

[Lofty]

https://news.sky.com/video/sarah-everard-murder-wayne-couzens-police-interview-in-full-12422146

Lmao what a maggot. Pretty great seeing him realise he's fucked.

'Then they made me dispose of her body next to my own land, for some reason.'

[Shindig]

It's very strange. He's clearly thought about it for ages and planned it in detail, but the plan involves hiring a car in his own name and then driving it around, and committing the crime, in the middle of London. Can't possibly have thought he would get away with it.

He sounds like the type to rape a lass and assume that she might actually stay with him. Once she couldn't stop screaming, he probably went turbo.

[Yevrah]

I don't pretend to understand how the mind of a psychopath works at the best of times (I'm Ye..), but a lot of this doesn't add up. I'd have thought there'd be some sort of mentally ill angle chucked into the mix, but maybe that doesn't exist outside of wellbeing these days.

[niko_cee]

Is why I find that show where people have to evade being found so fascinating. I think I’d be really good at it.

Do you mean Hunted? Yeah, I've always thought access to this community would be invaluable in such an endeavour. We're spread far and wide, with so little in common and [other than it being fixed, which sadly I think it is] I don't see how you'd ever crack a random internet messageboard as the key to someone's evasion plot.

My other plan involved using Guernsey plated cars to move about as they are immune to ANPR, but again, it's all set-up so they could just smooth that over.

[Ian]

Rocking up at Baz's only to find yourself five minutes later in a selfie on his Twitter account above a #nikoontherun! hashtag.

[niko_cee]

:D

Aye, you'd need to be selective.

[Kikó]

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Sensational.

[Spikey M]

:D

[Spikey M]

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Heads have gone, through the looking glass, jumping over a load of sharks, in the last days of Rome.

[Pepe]

That's going to go well.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Heads have gone, through the looking glass, jumping over a load of sharks, in the last days of Rome.

And we've missed the last beamer out of Saigon.

[Shindig]

Officers will now rape in pairs.

[Dquincy]

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Sensational.

Amazing. :D

[Dquincy]

Officers will now rape in pairs.
It's what I do. Can't be too safe nowadays.

[Queenslander]

Report on the prison Islands next please.


https://youtu.be/-2OjNqgJVM4

[Shindig]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-57858103

Aviation causes 2% of all emissions. So 1% of people cause 1% emissions? Splitting hairs, lads.

[phonics]

https://twitter.com/skyandyhughes/status/1444761906783342601?s=21

So that’s two rapists in the same unit and he’s suddenly being prosecuted for it a year later. The Met definitely aren’t just prosecuting this because some journalist found out about it and did something before it got reported on. Definitely not. The Met don’t cover for their own like that.

[Ian]

Must be coincidence. This guy probably wasn't even a known sex offender so it doesn't count.

[Queenslander]

NSW Deputy Premier and Nationals Leader has quit due to more corruption coming out of an ICAC investigation. This on top of the Liberal Party Leader and NSW Premier stepping before she she was sacked due an incredible amount of corruption of her own.

If rural NSW keep voting for the Nationals instead of The Fishers and Shooters party going forward they deserve to live in a scorched earth wasteland untill the end of time. That goes for the country in genereal, the dumbest people in our history are the inbred fucks who keep voting for the Nationals.

What a day. :cool:

Stolen from social media...


"I'll miss John Barilaro's strong commitment to rural NSW.

Like when he opened the new Department of Regional NSW with its head office in The Rocks, Sydney."

[Dquincy]

It's very strange. He's clearly thought about it for ages and planned it in detail, but the plan involves hiring a car in his own name and then driving it around, and committing the crime, in the middle of London. Can't possibly have thought he would get away with it.

You're trying to rationalise the mind of a psychopath. They clearly do not think like you and I. More like Mahow.

[Queenslander]

NSW Liberals have a elected a new leader, a far right Christian nut job who thinks pedo priests should be protected.

:drool:

[Ian]

An openly pro-nonce political strategy is.... bold.

[Ian]

EDIT: Posted in the wrong fred like an eejit.

[Queenslander]

An openly pro-nonce political strategy is.... bold.

Apparently he dislikes the fact that the Nationals have destroyed that much native forest it would make Brazil blush.

Fun times for the koala killer/Nonce loving State.

[Ian]

Is that related to the noncing? Does he want more forest so there are more places to have some privacy where nobody will hear a child's cries or something?

[Queenslander]

Just trying to get across his values. Pro nonce, anti koala killing.

The real question is how many kids will it take to save the remaining Koala population in NSW?

Rezoning koala habit to diddle kids would be undesirable.

[Shindig]

Depends if they can mate directly with your kids.

[Ian]

The little buggers are riddled with chlamydia though.

And the koalas are no better.

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-58790840

We need systemic change. Time for root and branch NHS reform, and training courses educating all staff against the dangers of killing babies.

In all seriousness though, how is this not bigger news?

[Spikey M]

I saw this last night and wondered the same. Without meaning to go all Incel, you know it would be if it were a male nurse.

[Ian]

I was a bit surprised it wasn't an "all over the news" type story when it first came out back in the Spring or whenever it was. I guess it will be once the trial's actually running.

[Kikó]

Yep - contempt of court etc. What a story.

[randomlegend]

I saw this last night and wondered the same. Without meaning to go all Incel, you know it would be if it were a male nurse.

I'd have thought a female nurse would be even more likely to be the big story. "Evil" women get the public imagination going wild as it is, nonetheless one who's in a traditional female caregiving role and murdered BABIES.

Doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of detail about the case online; apparently she was arrested previously and has now been rearrested on the same plus additional charges?

If I were a betting man my money would be on an 'angel of death' type situation where she had seen enough of what some of these babies go through and the lives they are sentenced to and decided to put some out of their misery.

[Spikey M]

I'd have thought a female nurse would be even more likely to be the big story. "Evil" women get the public imagination going wild as it is, nonetheless one who's in a traditional female caregiving role and murdered BABIES.

Doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of detail about the case online; apparently she was arrested previously and has now been rearrested on the same plus additional charges?

If I were a betting man my money would be on an 'angel of death' type situation where she had seen enough of what some of these babies go through and the lives they are sentenced to and decided to put some out of their misery.

My thinking is that women generally get the "poor twisted soul" card to play, be it her own inability to conceive, or "PTSD" from a baby related experience of her own. Whatever the reason for her doing it, she will have some kind of get out of jail free card up her sleeve.

With blokes that shit never flies. They are EVIL.

Even with Brady and Hindley she was seen as the hapless sidekick until it emerged that she was a more than willing accomplice.

[randomlegend]

I think the BABIES card might trump the WOMAN card, but we'll have to see.

[randomlegend]

In tenuously connected news, one of our NICU nurses gave one of the doctors a blowjob in a storage room at work. Someone caught them and reported it. She admitted to it and was disciplined, he denied it and so wasn't. How does that work? Some proper Schrodinger's blowjob shit.

[Kikó]

Dunno, hard to say without vids.

[randomlegend]

As the old saying goes, the people you are imaging in these stories don't look anything like the people actually involved in these stories.

[SvN]

These cases of killer nurses always seem to be based on someone noticing that they're always on shift when people die. Colin Norris is a perfect example of how flimsy the evidence usually is.

[Lofty]

He could have argued he did a Corrigan in Peep Show and just stood like a statue while it happened to him.

[Ian]

"Look, if I happen to be standing in a cupboard with a stiffy and somebody happens to put their gob round it that's nothing to do with me."

[randomlegend]

These cases of killer nurses always seem to be based on someone noticing that they're always on shift when people die. Colin Norris is a perfect example of how flimsy the evidence usually is.


In January 2015 the foreman of the jury that convicted Norris told the BBC that he now believes him to be innocent

Jesus. How could you live with yourself if you believed you sent an innocent person to prison for 30 years?

[Spikey M]

What has changed for the foreman of the Jury to go from "beyond a reasonable doubt" to "he's innocent"?

[randomlegend]

As always in these cases, doubt about the expert testimony given at the time.

[Spikey M]

Not even anything you can challenge the conviction over then. Welp.

[niko_cee]

I think the veracity of expert testimony/evidence is very much something which can be grounds for appeal/review - Sally Clarke/Roy Meadows etc.

The truly terrifying thing is quite how many 'expert witnesses' are in fact absolute charlatans.

Wasn't there some reasonably recent high profile fraud case that collapsed when it turned out the star prosecution expert witness had essentially made up all of his qualifications and had been whoring himself out as an expert in such matters for years?

Aye, here it is:


An example of the continuing problems with expert evidence was provided on 30 May 2019, when a multimillion pound fraud trial collapsed at Southwark Crown Court. It collapsed because the prosecution’s expert on the carbon credit market, a Mr Andrew Ager, was found to be entirely unqualified for the role. Mr Ager stated he had given evidence in a 22 previous trials, where defendants had been convicted and imprisoned, before his inadequacies were revealed, which should be a cause for considerable anxiety.

:cab:

[SvN]

The Sally Clarke case is so tragic. Imagine losing two kids, then being split from your newborn because you were falsely convicted of murdering them.

It's hardly a surprise she ended up drinking herself to death.

[Pepe]

Defund the NHS.

[Lewis]

Why is it always nurses who bump people off rather than doctors? Doctors, as we know, are solely motivated by money, so maybe the perks/wages keeps them in line, where as the hard-pressed nurses have less to lose.

[randomlegend]

I don't think Harold Shipman was a nurse.

[Lewis]

The exception that proves the rule, and - and mate - he blew it trying to make money out of it.

[SvN]

I only just realised that Shipman was only 52 when he was caught. I thought he was about 70.

https://i.imgur.com/Knch4gk.png

[Spikey M]

All those late night ward shifts as an F1 took their toll.

[Lofty]

He was billy big bollocks when he first went in the nick thinking he would get away with it at trial, by all accounts.

[Lewis]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-58805186

What? Does she think nobody else knows how it works?

[Don]

It was a serious piece on the BBC News at ten :D

[Queenslander]

Marketing grifter.


Why Scott Morrison and his government oppose a NSW-style anti-corruption watchdog


https://www.sbs.com.au/news/why-scott-morrison-and-his-government-oppose-a-nsw-style-anti-corruption-watchdog/2be5613e-b7fe-49af-876f-acb423e850ef?fbclid=IwAR0cBNLjTcMLDgkKffj_5vspyKtf GXCoyoc9aoRLgczZ_c7K0xRSdQ1KUZs

[Lofty]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-58805186

What? Does she think nobody else knows how it works?

Isn't she actually an aspiring actor/model? Not a 'crisis actor' as she bemoans to the press but someone who would be potentially pleased with all this media attention?

[Lewis]

This cunt (https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/cole-jarvis-found-guilty-murdering-6021597) is my second cousin, although I have never met him and never knew he existed until he was in the news. His defence - which the family apparently sold their house to pay for - didn't submit any evidence, and tried to argue that the fact he didn't dispose of his dirty murder scene clothes, and went round trying to sell the dead lad's bike, actually proves he never did it, because only a murderer would attempt to cover their tracks. What sort of Lionel Hutz shit is that?

[phonics]

The rest of that website is hilarious. The ‘top 6 people who have been jailed this week’ popped me.

[Lofty]

This cunt (https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/cole-jarvis-found-guilty-murdering-6021597) is my second cousin, although I have never met him and never knew he existed until he was in the news. His defence - which the family apparently sold their house to pay for - didn't submit any evidence, and tried to argue that the fact he didn't dispose of his dirty murder scene clothes, and went round trying to sell the dead lad's bike, actually proves he never did it, because only a murderer would attempt to cover their tracks. What sort of Lionel Hutz shit is that?

They had a cheeky toke together every day, thus proving there was no murder!

£100,000 please.

[Baz]

Apparently Jon Venables isn’t dead, as initially reported. (Eyes gouged out in Port Talbot)

[SvN]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58826189

I mean really, what's the point at this stage?

[John Arne]

There's a bit of a storm in US women's soccer at the moment, with a male head coach accused of sexual harassment now, I'm going to sound like a bit of a dinosaur, but some of the allegations are really weird.



In the report, former player Sinead Farrelly described how a married Riley coerced her into his hotel room to have sex. Another reported incident describes Riley coercing Farrelly and teammate Mana Shim back to his apartment and pressuring the two to kiss each other in exchange for the team not doing training the next day".


How are grown-assed women "pressured" or "coerced" by that. Tell him to fuck off and leave the room. Maybe I'm out of touch, and these women really were scared for their life/careers.

[Queenslander]

Aren't they all lesbians?

[John Arne]

Aren't they all lesbians?

Aye, that too :D

[Don]

Either they're all empowered these days to chat shit and have their moment in the limelight or I really slept on the power we yield. Both equally disgusting outcomes.

[Spikey M]

There's a bit of a storm in US women's soccer at the moment, with a male head coach accused of sexual harassment now, I'm going to sound like a bit of a dinosaur, but some of the allegations are really weird.



How are grown-assed women "pressured" or "coerced" by that. Tell him to fuck off and leave the room. Maybe I'm out of touch, and these women really were scared for their life/careers.

Someone in a managerial role pressuring their underlings to kiss for their own sexual gratification is a bit off mate. Soz like.

[randomlegend]

Pretty unprofessional for an International football player to be trying to get days off training.

[John Arne]

Someone in a managerial role pressuring their underlings to kiss for their own sexual gratification is a bit off mate. Soz like.

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I agree it's a bit off, especially given he's the manager. My issue is why these players merrily went along with it and fucked him, or kissed a mate. Just tell him to fuck off and get on with it and report it if you deem it worthy.

[Spikey M]

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I agree it's a bit off, especially given he's the manager. My issue is why these players merrily went along with it and fucked him, or kissed a mate. Just tell him to fuck off and get on with it and report it if you deem it worthy.

Have a quick word with Pavel on Twitter and he can help you nail the victim blaming properly.

[John Arne]

Have a quick word with Pavel on Twitter and he can help you nail the victim blaming properly.

Yes, these victims - being asked to have sex and agreeing to it - not quite the same as short skirt wearing asking to be raped, is it? Nice false equivalence though.

[niko_cee]

That first sentence is all over the place though. Married? Relevance? He coerced her into the room, but no mention of the sex being coerced, did she want it in the corridor? The less said about the second bit the better, although I see he was busy coercing people into rooms again.

[Spikey M]

Yes, these victims - being asked to have sex and agreeing to it - not quite the same as short skirt wearing asking to be raped, is it? Nice false equivalence though.

Mate...

If you can't see the subtext behind a manager asking for sexual favours in exchange for rewards then I can't help you.

[Queenslander]

Final piece of the puzzle.



Prime Minister Scott Morrison says he is planning further action to deal with anonymous abuse online
The Deputy Prime Minister has also argued for social media companies to shoulder more responsibility
Mr Morrison says social media companies should have to identify anonymous trolls or be held accountable


Mr Morrison said he wanted to add his voice to what Mr Joyce had said and urged tech giants to take more responsibility for what was published on their sites.

"[The] lack of accountability that sits around it is just not on," he said.

"You can expect us to be leaning further into this."

Mr Joyce urged his colleagues to consider what could be done to fix the problem in a timely manner.

"There's a congressional inquiry in the United States looking into this," he said.

"I think Australia should be looking into this.

"The idea that someone can have a pseudonym on Twitter and say the most outrageous things and we in 2021 sit back and say that is fair enough, that has got to stop."

[John Arne]

Mate...

If you can't see the subtext behind a manager asking for sexual favours in exchange for rewards then I can't help you.

You seem to be really struggling here. Yes, he is a bad person - we all know that - but equivalating somebody using a position of power to ask to get laid (and them agreeing to it) and rape, well... we are probably done here.

[Spikey M]

You seem to be really struggling here. Yes, he is a bad person - we all know that - but equivalating somebody using a position of power to ask to get laid (and them agreeing to it) and rape, well... we are probably done here.

https://www.womenshealth.gov/relationships-and-safety/other-types/sexual-coercion


Sexual coercion is unwanted sexual activity that happens when you are pressured, tricked, threatened, or forced in a nonphysical way. Coercion can make you think you owe sex to someone. It might be from someone who has power over you, like a teacher, landlord, or a boss. No person is ever required to have sex with someone else."


Sexual coercion can be a type of sexual violence. If you are in immediate danger, call 911. If you are in a safe place, call the National Sexual Assault Hotline at 800-656-HOPE (4673) or chat online with a trained hotline worker on the National Sexual Assault Online Hotline at any time to get help.

Some sexual coercion is against the law or violates school, rental, or workplace policies. Sexual coercion from someone at school, work, or a rental company or loan office is usually called sexual harassment. If you are younger than 18, tell a trusted adult about what happened. If you are an adult, consider talking to someone about getting help and reporting the person to the local authorities. You could talk to a counselor, the human resources department, or the local police.

You can also file a sexual harassment complaint with a federal agency. For workplace sexual harassment complaints, contact the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC). For school sexual harassment complaints, contact the U.S. Department of Education. For housing sexual harassment complaints, contact the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development or the U.S. Department of Justice at 1-844-380-6178 or fairhousing@usdoj.gov.

Sorry for conflating rape and "sexual violence".

[Don]

Shut up, you intersectional feminist wannabe.

[Spikey M]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/01/1414875826491_wps_13_Nick_Clegg_This_is_What_a.jpg

[Lewis]

This stuff was conflated a lot during the Harvey Weinstein coverage. By all means nail him to the wall for the assaults 'n' rapes, but you didn't *have* to suck his cock for a job love.

[randomlegend]

Given the power he had in the industry at the time, they essentially did have to or they'd lose their livelihood, right?

[Lofty]

Don't know about your areas but there has already been a Couzens copy cat in Barrow: https://www.facebook.com/82942783549/posts/10159442644443550/

[Jimmy Floyd]

There have been a couple of people around here asking women to get into their cars the last few days. For a certain percentage of men the Couzens/Everard details must have been proper wank bank material.

[Spikey M]

Magic

[Magic]

What details la's.

[Lofty]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-58841887

Heads refreshingly intact?

[Giggles]

About time someone had a bit of sense against these cunts.

[Queenslander]

What a way to go Jesus Christ.



Crocodiles kill two divers hunting for sea cucumbers in Solomon Islands after ban lifted

http://home.gihttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-10/divers-killed-by-crocodiles-hunting-sea-cucumber-beche-de-mer/100515588

[Spikey M]

Lifting the ban on crocodiles killing people was always going to end badly.

[Disco]

Do sea cucumbers require very much hunting? Surely it's more going and picking them up.

[Lewis]

Don't they literally shit their guts out when touched, or is that just when an animal tries to eat them?

[Foe]

There’s a programme called meat eater on Netflix where he goes searching for these in Alaska after struggling to find deer.

It’ll be on your tube too. Good episode, good programme. Foe recommended.

[Foe]

Don't they literally shit their guts out when touched, or is that just when an animal tries to eat them?

They need to be distressed. Just touching them won’t do it.

[Foe]

Also, you’d have to be absolutely desperate to fire into waters you expect crocodiles to be in the dark.

Proper mad man behaviour.

[Spikey M]

They need to be distressed. Just touching them won’t do it.

Depends who it is surely. What if it's Mahow clawing at you? I'd shit my guts out.

[Foe]

Meat eater series 7, episode 6.

[Disco]

Depends who it is surely. What if it's Mahow clawing at you? I'd shit my guts out.

Nah you just point behind him and shout 'A female!' and he'll be too busy sweating through his trainers to finish you off.

[Queenslander]

Meat eater series 7, episode 6.

Steve Rinella is a mans man. :cool:

[Dquincy]

Nah you just point behind him and shout 'A female!' and he'll be too busy sweating through his trainers to finish you off.

Sweating through his trainers. :D

[Lofty]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58863678

We were just on about this werent we?

[Spikey M]

Top work Agent Lewis.

[Mellberg]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/oct/11/ali-jawad-paralympians-are-forgotten-about-until-the-next-games

So are normal Olympians. Who gives a fuck what Jason Kenny is doing the rest of the time? I get they may have been blown off by a landmine, but grow a pair.

[mo]

...of legs?

[Disco]

Nobody cares about powerlifters legs or no legs.

[Waffdon]

https://news.sky.com/story/norway-several-people-killed-and-others-injured-in-bow-and-arrow-attacks-say-police-12433212

Sounds fun

[Lewis]

Bowan darrow.

[Queenslander]

I swear the only people I share my English surname with is Indigenous people from Western Australia. Im sure the women were all married in to the family and not how's ya fathered in.


Brooke Blurton is the first; will a bisexual Bachelor be close behind?


https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/culture/tv-and-radio/brooke-blurton-is-the-first-will-a-bisexual-bachelor-be-close-behind-20211008-p58yig.html?fbclid=IwAR3HKUh8lrL0RkD-86TSeRRR49uVJkm7Lz6yIO2FzddPMJsN9pA2-RCn5L4



In Blurton, it gets two jolts for the price of one: the 26-year-old West Australian is of mixed-race heritage, with an Aboriginal-Malaysian mother and a white father and, to the best of Innes’ knowledge, that makes her the first First Nations person to front the franchise anywhere in the world.

[John Arne]

Imagine being rattled by this, or it even registering to you as a thing.



I too hate being called “mum” in medical appointments. Even as a cis woman, it forces you to choose between being an adult, with your name in the notes right there, and a biological function with clothes on (ideally)


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/14/language-society-trans-people-tolerance-debate-words

Time to ban the 'm' word.

[Queenslander]

Take her kids off her.

[Spikey M]

Imagine being rattled by this, or it even registering to you as a thing.



https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/14/language-society-trans-people-tolerance-debate-words

Time to ban the 'm' word.

These are people that need real problems.

[phonics]

columns are churned out in a matter of minutes, with no loftier goal than meeting a deadline and filling up space — meaning that columnists will often resort to using the same words or phrase again and again and again and again and again. And rather than doing any original writing, the slothful columnists will rely on so-called “experts” to supply them with quotes to fill up space, experts say.


“They’ll often quote people you’ve never heard of,” says Harold Crimmins, an expert in the field of filler columns. “It’s pretty shameless.”

And in order to fill up space even faster, Crimmins says, the lazy beach-bound columnist will compose his summer “filler” columns with short paragraphs.

Many of these paragraphs will be as short as one sentence, he says.

“Or shorter,” he adds.

There are other telltale signs a reader can look for in order to determine whether a writer has, in fact, filed a so-called “filler” column, according to Crimmins.

Ban columnists.

[Disco]

Just don't read them, I can't fathom why anyone would bother in the first place when it's such obvious bullshit.

[Ian]

Another suicide bombing at an Afghan mosque. If it's ISIS (or a splinter of ISIS or whatever) doing them were they doing this before the US pulled out or is this a renewed anti-Taliban thing?

[Boydy]

It was a Shia mosque, wasn't it?

[Ian]

Think so, was last week's as well?

Are ISIS sectarian? I had it in my head they just hated everybody who's not them but I haven't read up on it.

[Disco]

ISIS-K have been fighting the Taliban (and everyone else in the region) for years, they're both Sunnis but that does not appear to matter.

[Ian]

Yeah that's kinda what I thought, ISIS and Friends just seem to want to murder fucking everybody.

[Lewis]

New Taliban seem a bit more tolerant of the other sects, having oppressed them all last time round, but the ISIS wallies still want them all dead. They're probably just an easier target at the moment, since their areas won't be quite as heavily policed/networked as where their main support is.

[phonics]

There was an interesting article about how a lot of the taliban guys got frustrated after the deal because they got transferred from shooting people in the head to effectively systems administrator. They weren’t interested in the goal they liked the war.

[Ian]

New Taliban seem a bit more tolerant of the other sects

Is that so? Interesting. Is this part of their attempt to seem like, actually lads, if you get past the hatred of women and fun and sex and tolerance and stuff, we're actually a load of totally rad dudes and you should just fuck off and ignore us yeah?

Or an actual shift in their leadership where they've realised that sectarianism is possibly the most demented form of bigotry?

[Queenslander]

Speaking of Afghanistan Scummo and mates have left 100+ Afghans to fend for themselves on PNG. A place where the locals have been known to still cut peoples heads off for banter.



Asylum seekers in PNG say they feel 'abandoned' by shift in Australia's offshore detention policy



While Australia will end its offshore program in PNG, processing will continue in Nauru.

"Anyone who attempts to enter Australia illegally by boat will be returned or sent to Nauru," Home Affairs Minister Karen Andrews has said.

The Refugee Council has called on New Zealand, US and Canadian governments to assist resettling the remaining refugees.

"It is laughable for the Australian government to pretend that it no longer has any responsibility for people it transferred to PNG," council spokesman Paul Power said.



https://www.sbs.com.au/news/asylum-seekers-in-png-say-they-feel-abandoned-by-shift-in-australia-s-offshore-detention-policy/d14c8a03-0582-4b15-81b6-7cffc1a39d02

[Lofty]

There was an interesting article about how a lot of the taliban guys got frustrated after the deal because they got transferred from shooting people in the head to effectively systems administrator. They weren’t interested in the goal they liked the war.

Surprise surprise. A bit like how it was convenient in the hey day of the empire to keep the army continually deployed as the things that made them an excellent fighting force also made them not people you wanted dossing about in Blighty.

[Lewis]

Is that so? Interesting. Is this part of their attempt to seem like, actually lads, if you get past the hatred of women and fun and sex and tolerance and stuff, we're actually a load of totally rad dudes and you should just fuck off and ignore us yeah?

Or an actual shift in their leadership where they've realised that sectarianism is possibly the most demented form of bigotry?

Nineties Afghanistan was literally a lawless wasteground (as opposed to merely a wasteground) with no anything, so they were a bit more severe when taking control because their gimmick was no nonsense. Plus the minorities were affiliated with the non-Taliban groups which don't really exist anymore. So there is that, and more than likely an element of trying to act a bit more normal now so that they get left alone.

As for the boredom of not fighting, there is that great anecdote about how the Americans would capture 'Taliban' and then during questioning find out that they weren't anything to do with the Taliban, they had just heard gunshots echo round the valley and flocked to the fighting for something to do. That ought to have been the signal to stop bothering really shouldn't it.

[Queenslander]

The Government, which is currently being run by the National Party while scummo is overseas, has just voted against a net zero by 2050 target.

The Nationals pull in 10% of the national vote same as the Greens Party.

[Pepe]

Those targets are completely useless anyway.

[Spikey M]

But it shows (the pretence of) AMBITION.

[Queenslander]

The Nationals ambition is to protect the mining industry for as long as possible.

Just in time Jordan Shanks posts a handy video about the Nationals permanently destroying river systems in NSW by building damns for the cotton industry.


https://youtu.be/n6xCu2vgjfc

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-58968692

:lol:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:D

[Ian]

Christ. :D

Bet his garden is a right dump.

[Queenslander]

:lol:


. Obviously he wasn't going to do that for the sake of a couple of garden umbrellas, in terms of bumping up his premium, so he's just sort of had to take it on the chin," she said

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-58978455

:cab:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Cabezas están fueras.

[Shindig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM7olfip8u0

Take that, you childless hu.... oh, this is close to attempted murder ...

[Spikey M]

*sits in road*

*outraged that car hits them*

Stupid cunts. It's only a matter of time until someone actually does run them over and it will be a great day.

[Offshore Toon]

They're idiots but I'm also not going to side with 'MY SON IS ELEVEN!' woman. Most people are just tragic.

[Kikó]

I don't know how you can be so angry that you want to drive someone over.

[Spikey M]

I don't know how you can be so angry that you want to drive someone over.

Roadrage innit. Cars multiply all emotions by a factor of 10, be it exhaust nonces like Pepe or the MY SON IS 11 lady that definitely shouldn't be wearing leggings in that manner.

[Kikó]

Kids probably delighted that he's getting a few hours bunking it as well. What a fucking mess.

[Spikey M]

Sadly, he's probably less delighted with his mum going full Croydon on the news.

[Boydy]

Saw that the other day.

The MILF. :drool:

[Baz]

Why’s Calvert Lewin getting involved?

[Giggles]

She should have went clean out over the top of the two lazy wasters.

[Kikó]

Why? What's murder going to achieve?

[Ian]

In before WELL OF COURSE YOU WOULDN'T CARE KIKO THE ROADS ARE BENEATH YOU IN YOUR GOLDEN HELICOPTER.

[Giggles]

In before WELL OF COURSE YOU WOULDN'T CARE KIKO THE ROADS ARE BENEATH YOU IN YOUR GOLDEN HELICOPTER.

I wouldn’t even bother at this stage when he’s playing up that kind of stupidity.

[Baz]

Why? What's murder going to achieve?
More than sitting in a road.

[Giggles]

Anyway a proper police force would have had their heads cracked open like coconuts before it ever got to that stage.

[Kikó]

Again, why do you want police brutality? Strange fascist yet lawless state you want to live in.

[Giggles]

Lawlessness is disrupting people with your squealing little bored student crusade. A few proper beatings would send a good strong message that it won’t be happening. If a few die in the process then no loss, they’d never have amounted to anything anyway.

[Smjffy]

Some of the last few comments are why people are fucking ugly. Reasoning with someone trying to run over anyone is just bonkers irrespective of what they are doing.

Life is precious.

[Pepe]

Insulate Britain. :D

If your shitty little hobby is disrupting people's lives, you cannot be surprised when everyone gets mad at you. But I guess some people are more important than others.

[Pepe]

If my hombres and I were to shut down a road to do some burnouts and someone came and gave one of us a shove, how many of you would be all 'life is precious' and whatever? It would be 'they deserved more' all throughout.

[Ian]

I've no idea what a burnout is but anybody trying to resolve anything by starting a physical altercation is probably at least a bit of a cunt.

[Giggles]

Nobody would need to if these wasters were properly policed instead of protected.

[Giggles]

Even if you want to go soft on them, at the very least the cops should be dragging them off the road and locking them up a while. Cutting their benefits would go a long way too.

[Pepe]

I've no idea what a burnout is but anybody trying to resolve anything by starting a physical altercation is probably at least a bit of a cunt.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7f0qvqt-s4

[Pepe]

At least those lads have the decency of doing their pathetic demonstrations at night.

[Kikó]

Even if you want to go soft on them, at the very least the cops should be dragging them off the road and locking them up a while. Cutting their benefits would go a long way too.

Ah so everyone who protests are on benefits. Any more prejudices you have?

[Giggles]

They’ll tend to be bored students or other lazy cunts.

[Giggles]

If they happen to be employed then force the termination of the employment.

[igor_balis]

Giggles thinks they should bring back capital punishment, but only for those people who fall over in supermarkets and try to sue them, students, and people who serve him spaghetti.

[phonics]

“What are you in for?”

“Third degree pretension”

[Lofty]

Are we hastening climate change through being wankers? Probably.

Were the five previous ice ages due to the dinosaurs leaving the boiler on? Probably not.

Make hay while the sun shines, and if it degenerates into Mad Max then it'll be a change of pace at least.

[randomlegend]

The protest was about the government insulating homes properly so thousands of old people don't die in the winter, not climate change lol.

[Offshore Toon]

I love how Giggles has decided that if they're somehow not on benefits, they should be put in a position where they will be.

[Spikey M]

The protest was about the government insulating homes properly so thousands of old people don't die in the winter, not climate change lol.

Then they're even more retarded than I realised. Why aren't they blocking the offending house builders?

[Pepe]

Luckily, global warming is predicted to decrease deaths due to cold weather.

[Shindig]

Greta Thunberg would probably do more good if she knew how to lobby. That's what these people lack. A fucking sales team.

[Lewis]

Insulating all the shitty old housing stock would be a good idea (better than subsidising heat pumps and other shit), but you can't just block Her Majesty's highways, and if it was any less fashionable cause they would all have had their heads bashed in by now.

[Foe]

Surely only a matter of time before the dragging them off the road and shouting at them turns into giving them a kicking, particularly if they’re young.

The general public aren’t that tolerant to inconvenience.

The old retirees are more likely to break a hip getting shoved over you’d think.

[Lofty]

The protest was about the government insulating homes properly so thousands of old people don't die in the winter, not climate change lol.

Their campaign is ineffective then as I have just lumped them in with the other twats.

[Spikey M]

Their campaign is ineffective then as I have just lumped them in with the other twats.

And for good reason. Blocking traffic implies that you think traffic is a problem. What they're doing is the equivalent of holding a nationwide blockade of Greggs because you oppose the development of Nuclear Power Stations.

[Kikó]

I'd be knocking heads clean off if they were blocking Greggs.

[Yevrah]

The protest was about the government insulating homes properly so thousands of old people don't die in the winter, not climate change lol.

Was this not an Insulate UK one then? If it was, then they're definitely all about climate change as a banner to excuse their mischief.

[Yevrah]

Then they're even more retarded than I realised. Why aren't they blocking the offending house builders?

Presumably for the same reason we end up redacting Fawlty Towers on the back of racial injustice protests. If someone comes along and mobilises all these disparate groups we're in a World of trouble.

[phonics]

This whole thing is such a tiring conversation and perfectly summarised in the above posts.

1) murdering a protestor of any sort because they make you late for work is bad. Anyone saying otherwise is a freak.

2) These protests have to be be approved weeks in advance. Listen to the traffic updates or use waze if your life’s important enough to murder someone else over.

3) the guy who doesn’t know anything but wants to be seen to be on the right side says a bunch of guilt trip bollocks. Insulate UK is not about keeping granny’s house warm and stopping her from dying. If anything granny dying is a net positive for these types.

4) I’m not around to point out that insulate uk actually have a very specific policy goal which is in the name. Vast swathes of the country are poorly insulated, I didn’t even realise single glazing still existed till I moved back to the Uk in 2005. Poor insulation means you have to spend more on gas to keep the heat in. It requires more energy to knock down a shit house and build a new one than improving the old one.

4) All the people who say ‘individuals can’t change anything about climate’ get mad as fuck about these peoples existence and say they’re all hippies on benefits (which they may be but they have a point for once)

5) I wonder whether actually doing the really obvious policy choice that creates jobs, energy efficiency and good publicity is worth it because fucking hell do I want off this planet so why not speed up the process.

[phonics]

Presumably for the same reason we end up redacting Fawlty Towers on the back of racial injustice protests. If someone comes along and mobilises all these disparate groups we're in a World of trouble.

Fucking hell mate you’re about one news cycle away from joining Linehan and Pavel.

[Yevrah]

Fucking hell mate you’re about one news cycle away from joining Linehan and Pavel.

Hardly. There are a load of absolute weirdos in this country (even if we excuse Insulate UK from that) wasting their time on absolute nonsense. If someone were to unite them in a common cause and go on the disrupt, it would be a massive pain in the arse.

[phonics]

What if the common cause was something that made the world better. Would that be a pain in your arse?

What a weird hypothetical. Get a grip.

Edit: Also ‘there are a load of absolute weirdos in this country wasting their time on nonsense’

You’re one of them! You spent hours statistically tallying your fucking nba2k21 franchise. What if someone activated you to disrupt?

[Yevrah]

What if the common cause was something that made the world better. Would that be a pain in your arse?

What a weird hypothetical. Get a grip.

Edit: Also ‘there are a load of absolute weirdos in this country’

You’re one of them! You spent hours statistically tallying your fucking nba2k21 franchise. What if someone activated you to disrupt?

Clearly struck a nerve there, didn't I. Go and have fun with the Covid deniers and FREEDOM! crowd if you think they're a good bunch.

[phonics]

They were literally outside my window not an hour or so ago and I managed not to froth into a rage and murder anyone. I just shut the window.

[Yevrah]

They were literally outside my window not an hour or so ago and I managed not to froth into a rage and murder anyone. I just shut the window.

I don't want to murder anyone and nor have I suggested otherwise. Once again you've projected what you think someone has said onto what they actually have. It's tiresome. Stop it.

[phonics]

I grew up with video tapes of Tom and Jerry that opened with ‘these reflect views of older times’ warnings. That was nearly 30 years ago. But do it to Basil Fawlty and Yevrah thinks the world is about to be overtaken by purple hair hippies.

[phonics]

I don't want to murder anyone and nor have I suggested otherwise. Once again you've projected what you think someone has said onto what they actually have. It's tiresome. Stop it.

Where did I say your name once on the murder part. You just randomly said that I like to hang out with anti vaxxer because I called you weird. You’re the one projecting projection sir.

[Yevrah]

But do it to Basil Fawlty and Yevrah thinks the world is about to be overtaken by purple hair hippies.

Again, I don't. But you carry on assuming someone has affronted the cause of those (and only those) you're sympathetic with.

[phonics]

I’m on the left. The only thing we do better than fail to mobilise against the right is telling each other we’re wrong. I don’t agree with any of these sort of protests. However I have absolutely no idea what sort of protest would work. So you have to spend your time telling nutters like Giggles and friends they’re knobs and psychos.

For context though I do realise I kind of misread your fawlty towers post and apologise for the inference. However my larger point still stands.

[randomlegend]

This whole thing is such a tiring conversation and perfectly summarised in the above posts.

1) murdering a protestor of any sort because they make you late for work is bad. Anyone saying otherwise is a freak.

2) These protests have to be be approved weeks in advance. Listen to the traffic updates or use waze if your life’s important enough to murder someone else over.

3) the guy who doesn’t know anything but wants to be seen to be on the right side says a bunch of guilt trip bollocks. Insulate UK is not about keeping granny’s house warm and stopping her from dying. If anything granny dying is a net positive for these types.

4) I’m not around to point out that insulate uk actually have a very specific policy goal which is in the name. Vast swathes of the country are poorly insulated, I didn’t even realise single glazing still existed till I moved back to the Uk in 2005. Poor insulation means you have to spend more on gas to keep the heat in. It requires more energy to knock down a shit house and build a new one than improving the old one.

4) All the people who say ‘individuals can’t change anything about climate’ get mad as fuck about these peoples existence and say they’re all hippies on benefits (which they may be but they have a point for once)

5) I wonder whether actually doing the really obvious policy choice that creates jobs, energy efficiency and good publicity is worth it because fucking hell do I want off this planet so why not speed up the process.

Not surprising to see you can't count to 6.

I wasn't trying to guilt trip anyone. One of their clearly stated aims one their own website is ending fuel poverty and that's what the particular protest was about (or at least that's what they said when I was listening to the report about it).

[Yevrah]

Nothing you say stands. You've taken my weirdos point and assumed it only applies to left/liberal groups, because of the image you have of me assumes I disagree with those groups and only those groups.

It doesn't. People bothering vaccination centres are weirdos. People putting actual effort into denying COVID's existence are weirdos.

[Yevrah]

Maybe Jimmy was more right about this 'culture war' stuff (it's still a dreadful name for it) than I ever imagined.

I'm not even in the war and I'm getting dragged into it.

[phonics]

Nothing you say stands. You've taken my weirdos point and assumed it only applies to left/liberal groups, because of the image you have of me assumes I disagree with those groups and only those groups.

It doesn't. People bothering vaccination centres are weirdos. People putting actual effort into denying COVID's existence are weirdos.

No I just don’t think ‘if they unite a large swathe of the population that disagree on everything around a common cause’ is instantly bad.

What about if that common cause was ‘feed the homeless’. It’s just a dumb comment.

[phonics]

Maybe Jimmy was more right about this 'culture war' stuff (it's still a dreadful name for it) than I ever imagined.

I'm not even in the war and I'm getting dragged into it.

Welcome to 2012/13. Glad you could join us.

[Pepe]

People who have politics as their hobby are often weirdos and always insufferable. Whether they support Real Left of FC Right doesn't really make a difference.

[phonics]

I’d like to make it clear I was insufferable long before I was political.

[Yevrah]

No I just don’t think ‘if they unite a large swathe of the population that disagree on everything around a common cause’ is instantly bad.


But for the purposes of my point, them being united by someone with nefarious motives (not hard to do I'd imagine given how easily a lot of them are manipulated) it would be bad.

What are we even discussing? How does this always happen?