News of the day

[Alex]

It could have been Baz for me too, actually. Those first two albums were great. And definitely much loved by the music contingent of TTH at the time.

[mo]

But they're the method we use so the grades handed out this year (and last) should have been roughly equivalent to previous years and not miles ahead.

If this way is fine then presumably we'll do likewise every year now and everyone's happy with that, right?

No one is saying this way is 'fine' - it really isn't. Some people have used it as an opportunity to ask the question 'is there a better way?' but so far as I've seen, nothing comes even remotely close.

How would you have made grades roughly equivalent to 2019? Without blind marking, exam boards putting out the same papers and then paying examiners to mark them, you can't ensure any sort of consistency nationally - hell, we didn't even have consistency within the Humanities department. And this is why results are so skewed.

[Lewis]

The teacher assessments massively favouring girls could probably do with some sort of official explanation.

[Baz]

That first album is proper mighty.

Even the second one hits a special place in me cos of nostalgic association.

But yeah, dumb change.

[Shindig]

It's especially dumb when you consider the songs they write.

[Pepe]

The teacher assessments massively favouring girls could probably do with some sort of official explanation.

That will just be used as proof that conventional A levels are sexist.

[-james-]

Yeah British Sea Power are probably THE TTH music thread band. I got into them off here as well, felt like everyone that posted in ten songs was into then.

[Alex]

We should really make a concerted effort to bring back the "ten songs" format. It was great.

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-58009514

An interesting story all told but what I love is the journalistic pomposity around things like this:


A military analyst told the BBC that some of the weapons technology would only be available from the Russian military. Another expert, a specialist on the Wagner group, said the list pointed to the involvement of Dmitry Utkin.

He is the ex-Russian military intelligence man believed to have founded Wagner and given it its name (his own former call-sign). The BBC tried to contact Dmitry Utkin but has received no reply.

As if he's going to answer an email to a BBC journalist: "Hi mate, thanks for the email. Yeah, been a bit busy of late but happy to chat on Skype, I can do any time after 6 tonight. Thanks, Dmitry."

[Shindig]

At least the MH17 bloke answers his phone.

[Kikó]

I don't think it's pomposity, it's showing an attempt was made for comment.

[Raoul Duke]

Yeah British Sea Power are probably THE TTH music thread band. I got into them off here as well, felt like everyone that posted in ten songs was into then.

I'd say probably The Shins or The National, but they're definitely in the upper half of the table

[igor_balis]

British sea power are one of those bands that nobody really talks about anymore on account of them being pretty crap.

[igor_balis]

Be like if someone told you they were really into cooper temple clause or something you'd be like wow really? Why?

[Jimmy Floyd]

I gave it a listen last night and just thought it sounded like your mate's shit band in 2006. Maybe you had to be there.

[igor_balis]

I gave it a listen last night and just thought it sounded like your mate's shit band in 2006. Maybe you had to be there.

They're fine but from experience most fans are just REALLY into that specific brand of 90s-00s British guitar music. Sort of like genre fiction, e.g. like how my mum will read any old shite if it's a detective novel by one of about 4 authors she likes, and nothing else.

[Disco]

Be like if someone told you they were really into cooper temple clause or something you'd be like wow really? Why?

Despite the fact that they are also quite bad.

[Shindig]

Cooper Temple Clause were cast-iron wankers.

[igor_balis]

Despite the fact that they are also quite bad.

Yes that's what I'm saying bro

[Baz]

Despite the fact that they are also quite bad.

Nah this was and still is an absolute banger:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq5pYP92Vo0

[Queenslander]

Fortress Australia 1 - 4 year old girl born in QLD 0


. The High Court has refused a special leave request from lawyers for a four-year-old girl from Biloela who is seeking a chance to apply for a protection visa.

Tharnicaa Murugappan's Tamil parents have been fighting a long legal battle to remain in Australia.

The family is now in Perth after Tharnicaa became ill on Christmas Island where they were being held in detention.

Despite the High Court's decision today not to hear the case, supporters of the family are hopeful Immigration Minister Alex Hawke will use his discretion to clear the way for her to apply for a protection visa.



https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/high-court-rejects-biloela-aylum-seeker-case/100370346

[Spikey M]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/keir-starmer-defra-george-eustice-high-court-labour-b950229.html

Good/bad news, Jim.

[Pepe]

'Ordered his destruction.'

:D

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/keir-starmer-defra-george-eustice-high-court-labour-b950229.html

Good/bad news, Jim.

He does have the face, tone and manner of a man who might appear at your front door during your eggs benedict and say: "Madam, good morning. I am here to destroy your alpaca. Would you kindly show me to the stables?"

[Spikey M]

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article24013470.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Keir-Starmer-visit-to-Hull.jpg

I've got £50 on Geronimo in the 2nd.

[Disco]

Don't make livestock into pets is the lesson here, then nobody would care.

[Waffdon]

Apparently someone in Plymouth has went around shooting people.

[Waffdon]

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[Disco]

A completely understandable reaction to living in Plymouth.

[Shindig]

So erm .... imagine being such a tart you have to act all billy big bollocks in front of a copper when there's a body right in your line of sight.

[Lofty]

Imagine being so desperate for content you post someone's still warm corpse on twitter whilst describing the events as tragic.

[Luke Emia]

If only it was like America and they would have had guns to protect themselves…

[Disco]

The guy that did it looks just like Igor.

[Shindig]

Our first mass shooting in 11 years is one hell of a stat. Going postal in a British sense is usually a strong-worded letter of complaint.

[Spikey M]

Your reference point is about 50 years our of date with that one, Shinners.

These days it's more likely to be stabbing, a woman on the warpath with a high-heeled shoe or a gammon ramming people with his car.

[SvN]

I reckon we can pretend this one didn't really count, given the guy was American.

[Shindig]

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/bx52.LjiNK6tYrai8uJqfA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTYwMC4xNjY4OTg0Nz AwOTc0O2NmPXdlYnA-/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/WRc.QtVBs.XGynUlw0bDXg--~B/aD04OTk7dz0xNDM4O2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_telegraph_818/de75e920f282c8657f71df5e85258da8

Apparently a screengrab from his youtube channel. Of course he does.

[SvN]

You could see it coming, really.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRrf7kIL_6I

[Spikey M]

The real crime is that accent. What the fuck is that?

[Shindig]

Plymouth, born and raised.

[Spikey M]

It's like a Farmer shagged a gangster and that's what was shat out 9 moths later.

[Lofty]

Watched about 5 minutes, the issue seems to be a heady mix of expecting his life to be that of the top 1% and ranting into his webcam about his problems instead of solving them. Have a wank and a walk and crack on you fucking nugget, don't compare yourself to elite athletes because you did a course of roids once then sprained your ankle.

[igor_balis]

The guy that did it looks just like Igor.
Ffs this is making a murderer all over again

[Ian]

don't compare yourself to elite athletes because you did a course of roids once then sprained your ankle.

:D

Excellent.

[Shindig]

Ah, ‘life is hard’ rants at 22. What a dumb sod.

[Jimmy Floyd]

This 'shooter' business has to go. We're not American. 'Gunman', please. 'Shooter' implies that guns are a thing.

[Disco]

He certainly packed a lot into six minutes, he's had to reload at least twice too, assuming he only had the one gun.

[Yevrah]

Just watched one of this dickhead's videos. What an absolute loser, which is exactly the way he should be portrayed everywhere.

[Lewis]

There will be a CLAMPDOWN on firearms licences now to cover for the local authorities somehow overlooking the fact he was a mentalist with a video blog full of shit.

[Baz]

Is there a video showing him on the rampage?

[Kikó]

Get a life Baz.

[Ian]

Just watched one of this dickhead's videos. What an absolute loser, which is exactly the way he should be portrayed everywhere.

Isn't attention usually what these lot are hoping for?

He shouldn't be portrayed as anything. Report the facts and don't talk about him again. Don't let more of his weirdo ilk think this is a path to some perverse glory.

[Spikey M]

Only report on his lagging calf muscles.

[Yevrah]

Isn't attention usually what these lot are hoping for?

He shouldn't be portrayed as anything. Report the facts and don't talk about him again. Don't let more of his weirdo ilk think this is a path to some perverse glory.

Well quite, but given the BBC led with a huge picture of him above his name I fear that ship may have sailed a while ago.

[Ian]

Yeah sadly ignoring the bastards doesn't generate as many clicks.

[Disco]

There will be a CLAMPDOWN on firearms licences now to cover for the local authorities somehow overlooking the fact he was a mentalist with a video blog full of shit.

I'd have to check but I don't think they do an independent psychological evaluation they just check your medical records for any history etc. Certainly the renewal checks only ever looked at the security of where you kept them. My experience is all about 15 years old by now so it could have changed since.

[Jimmy Floyd]

BBC as a public service broadcaster aren't in the business of clicks, so there's no excuse.

[Baz]

Watched some of his YouTube videos, and my Sonichu alarm went off.

[-james-]

https://www.reddit.com/user/Jake3572/

Lol they found his reddit account.

[Bernanke]

https://www.reddit.com/user/Jake3572/

Lol they found his reddit account.


Eminem is the goat bar none

Well there's your smoking gun.

[Spikey M]

https://www.reddit.com/user/Jake3572/

Lol they found his reddit account.

What a fucking loser. :happycry:

[Baz]

Gone now. :(

[Shindig]

Well there's your smoking gun.

That he was licensed to have.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gone now. :(

Most of them were in r/Uglyuncensored like this one:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UglyUncensored/comments/p1vzpn/not_a_single_like_on_my_facebook_profile_or_posts/

The sub has archived his posts:

https://archive.org/details/jakeuu_202108/12.png

[Shindig]

Watched some of his YouTube videos, and my Sonichu alarm went off.

That alarm's had a lot of use lately. :uhoh:

[Lewis]

Shit haircut aside, he doesn't look too bad there.

[Baz]

That’s cos he looks like if you and Fred West had a kid.

[Boydy]

That’s cos he looks like if you and Fred West had a kid.

:lol:

[Spikey M]

:D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tremendous.

[Lewis]

That was the gag Humour Champion. He just looks like lockdown me. :moop:

[Lofty]

Incels need to up their game, my mate is 5'5 and been bald since he was 21 and makes that lad look like Brad Pitt but funnily enough being actually able to talk to women gets you more dates than moaning about loneliness online.

[igor_balis]

Thankfully I've only had very limited interactions IRL with the, er, i forget which ones are which, red-pilled people? One of my peripheral mates from school was always particularly socially-awkward and shit with girls, even by the standards of me and my mates. We drifted apart, but agreed to go on a BIG SESH a couple of years after we both finished uni, cus we woz both back home, and i'd recently broken up with my ex and wanted to, I dunno, get battered and dance like a twat and maybe snog a girl.

While we were pre-drinking at his and catching up, he said a few things about how he had gotten into the whole pick up artist thingy, and how he read some of the books and had gotten "game" and other weird shit. I thought it was a bit dodgy but I kinda thought fuck it, he seemed to be more confident and had a fairly fit girlfriend based on the photos, so tried to give him the benefit of the doubt.

We arrived at the club, got a drink, and after about 10 minutes he asked if we could go for a fag, yeah sound mate. He sat us next to this lass in a wheelchair and then proceeded to spend the next fucking hour doing his fucking pick up artist routine at the poor girl, as I desperately tried to persuade him to come inside and have a dance. It felt like an eternity, partly cus it never actually developed into proper conversation, just a series of lines and tactics the lad had clearly read on some fucking PUA forums, and her sorta going along with it because I guess she didn't usually get much attention from guys in night clubs. Finally got him back inside for about half an hour, before he dragged us back outside to try and fail to make conversation with other random girls. My main takeaway from that evening was thinking fucking hell, his poor girlfriend. At least he hasn't shot anyone I spose.

[Queenslander]

'Lass in a wheel chair' :lol:

[Spikey M]

I had a mate try to pull a bird in a wheelchair once.

"I'm disabled, not desperate" she said.

Poor lad.

[Lofty]

Amazing :D

Thankfully I have never witnessed a PUA in action, I can imagine it is suitably cringe.

My idiot mate once went over to a girl sat on her own in a club, as soon as he sat next to her she got up and immediately left the club, don't think she even said anything to him :D

[Disco]

It's easier to push them rather than pull them.

[Spikey M]

:D

[Ian]

I had a mate try to pull a bird in a wheelchair once.

"I'm disabled, not desperate" she said.

Poor lad.

Fucking hell. :D

[Bernanke]

The All Gas No Brakes report from a Vegas PUA course was incredible.


https://youtu.be/7wH2YySpoXE

[Giggles]

Nice of the yanks to leave the muzzers a load of bases and equipment to play with.

[Dquincy]

Nice of the yanks to leave the muzzers a load of bases and equipment to play with.

Has the last week or so in Afghanistan effectively rendered the past 20 years of US/UK occupying the region as worthless?

[Lewis]

Pretty much. The initial invasion to destroy the training camps etc. was worthwhile, although supporting those same people in Syria probably reversed much of that good work, but the nation-building part of it all yeah lol.

[Queenslander]

Toutai Kefu has been stabbed in his home current ly in Hospital they reckon he isn't looking good

https://www.news.com.au/sport/rugby/wallabies-legend-clinging-to-life-after-stabbed-inside-family-home/news-story/901ac39b8ad29e912f3b67f19c9ede4e

Him his missus and 2 kids are in Hospital.
https://www.rugby.com.au/news/wallabies-legend-toutai-kefu-rushed-to-hospital-after-stabbing-2021815

[Spikey M]

The media are absolutely desperate to get our Army back in Afghanistan but none of the Politicians seem keen, which is an interesting development. Are they out of Oil or are they just not as useful as they were in terms of Middle Eastern politics?

[Jimmy Floyd]

The media are quite happy to send working class kids to die, obvs. Not quite so easy as a politician.

[Ian]

With all the violence and human rights abuses going to be going on I assume they're just hoping if we stay out of it we can get a trade deal.

[Spikey M]

The BBC in particular are never normally this hungry to send OUR BOYS off to battle if memory serves. They weren't with Syria Et Al anyway.

I suppose it's easier to paint this as a Humanitarian mission though.

[Ian]

Priti Patel is presumably breathlessly pushing for us to go out and bomb some civilians before they get any funny ideas.

[Spikey M]

Meanwhile, Rory Stewarts political career has taken an interesting turn.

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[Pepe]

That everyone is shitting on Biden right now tells you why it has been two decades. Why try to be the one pulling troops out and have to deal with this crap? Just keep kicking that can. Tronald with the big brain play though, ordering the evacuation but ensuring that it happens after the election. Or am I completely off-base here? Haven't really been following at all.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, I thought it was a bit off [although entirely predictable] him wading in when it was his policy in the first place.

I can understand people who have been involved with the whole business in the past two decades feel a bit shat on [and obviously the families of those killed are probably rightfully asking for what], but then isn't that just what being in the military adds up to? Being shat on by the government in perpetuity?

[Manc]

Didn't Biden publicly back the move at the time?

[Yevrah]

The World should probably help anyone who wants to leave get out (if they still can) and then build a wall around (what will no doubt become) the medieval shithole and leave everyone that's still there to it.

[Disco]

That's been the same verdict every time someone leaves Afghanistan, I'm not sure what people thought would happen when we got bored policing their country but it was always going to be this.

[Spikey M]

The only way of potentially stopping it would be to give them the ability to defend themselves (properly that is. Not a 2 bit army with spud guns), and I'm not sure giving them 21st century fighter jets and missiles is the best idea for anyone.

[Kikó]

Yeah, I thought it was a bit off [although entirely predictable] him wading in when it was his policy in the first place.

I can understand people who have been involved with the whole business in the past two decades feel a bit shat on [and obviously the families of those killed are probably rightfully asking for what], but then isn't that just what being in the military adds up to? Being shat on by the government in perpetuity?

Trump even came out recently and said Biden shouldn't wait until September for the full withdrawal and do it sooner (since deleted that post the pussy ole).

It's tragic that those people who had found hope are now left to go back under the rule of complete cunts.

[Don]

Are the arts and feminism evening classes in Kabul being postponed now then? :(

[Disco]

The only way of potentially stopping it would be to give them the ability to defend themselves (properly that is. Not a 2 bit army with spud guns), and I'm not sure giving them 21st century fighter jets and missiles is the best idea for anyone.

The Americans have all those things and are still very careful only to go up against people with half timbered rifles and no shoes, and even then their results are pretty patchy.

[Spikey M]

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Fucking hell.

How scared would you have to be for that to seem like an acceptable level of risk to escape?

[Lewis]

Joe Biden looks a bit daft with his quote about how it won't all just collapse, but that will have been the military/security agencies lying to him like they have been all the others, so anyone blaming him is being a bit unfair. The best reactions are all the British idiots thinking we can lead some sort of effort to fix it. It's one thing being wrong about something, but anyone that deluded should be disqualified from having a say.

[Spikey M]

The Americans have all those things and are still very careful only to go up against people with half timbered rifles and no shoes, and even then their results are pretty patchy.

Granted, but those Planes and Missiles are what kept the Taliban quiet for so long.

[Disco]

They might not die doing it whereas they're pretty sure the Taliban will cut their heads off and rape their families.

[Disco]

Granted, but those Planes and Missiles are what kept the Taliban quiet for so long.

I would say it was the American commitment behind them, whatever weapons they left behind (whoever they left them with) were just presents for the Taliban.

[Kikó]

You're not going to beat the Taliban if you let them sit about in Pakistan while they wait for you to fuck off.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Joe Biden looks a bit daft with his quote about how it won't all just collapse, but that will have been the military/security agencies lying to him like they have been all the others, so anyone blaming him is being a bit unfair. The best reactions are all the British idiots thinking we can lead some sort of effort to fix it. It's one thing being wrong about something, but anyone that deluded should be disqualified from having a say.

Has anyone who works in new media or comedy writing said they are 'angry' about it yet? That should solve things if nothing else has.

[Lewis]

The problem with Old Taliban was them openly hosting most wanted terrorists, which was largely down to Mullah Omar being a top tier autist who refused to turn them away (or hand them over) because Islam, so if they can manage not to do that then they're just another shithouse country to ignore and our focus can turn back to supporting the very same people oppressing Women and Girls in Syria.

[Disco]

You're not going to beat the Taliban if you let them sit about in Pakistan while they wait for you to fuck off.

And they took the entire place in a fortnight with little more than technicals and AKs, a pile of aircraft or missiles that they don't have the infrastructure to properly deploy are unlikely to have slowed them down very much.

[Spikey M]

And they took the entire place in a fortnight with little more than technicals and AKs, a pile of aircraft or missiles that they don't have the infrastructure to properly deploy are unlikely to have slowed them down very much.

That's kind of in there with giving them the gear in the first place and I wasn't arguing that it was a workable solution. I was saying it's the only possible solution, but the outcome would have likely been worse than the current one. (See: Saddam Hussein)

[Lewis]

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[Bernanke]

The whole reaction in (social) media to this is so confusing (well, not really). On a fundamental level, the populace seems to prefer Taliban rule to anything else, so of course the "Afghan army" was gonna roll over in 5 seconds flat.

I saw some Pew survey or something that listed 99% of the local muslim population being in favor of Sharia (40% in Russia, 20% in Bosnia) which just makes you wonder what the fucking point of it all was other than boosting Lockheed profits for a couple of decades.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's all just dumb liberal guilt.

[phonics]

The whole reaction in (social) media to this is so confusing (well, not really). On a fundamental level, the populace seems to prefer Taliban rule to anything else, so of course the "Afghan army" was gonna roll over in 5 seconds flat.

I saw some Pew survey or something that listed 99% of the local muslim population being in favor of Sharia (40% in Russia, 20% in Bosnia) which just makes you wonder what the fucking point of it all was other than boosting Lockheed profits for a couple of decades.

I think there's a good argument that we might have actually been able to do something in Afghanistan if we hadn't fucked off to Iraq. Dick Cheney just happened to be the CEO of Haliburton and let's take a look at how their stock price was affected by the decision, pushed for by Dick Cheney. to go into Iraq.

https://i.imgur.com/vBmxjqI.png

Weird.

[Spikey M]

Take away any Islamic wording and ask our population if they'd be in support of chopping the hands off thieves etc. and I reckon we'd pull similar numbers.

[phonics]

Take away any Islamic wording and ask our population if they'd be in support of chopping the hands off thieves etc. and I reckon we'd pull similar numbers.

I've said it before but if a party suggested their main policy was "Reinstating the death penalty, but only for pedophiles", they'd win in a landslide.

[Lewis]

The Taliban became popular for hanging nonces, but I would like to see it expanded to other groups before I voted for it.

[Spikey M]

I've said it before but if a party suggested their main policy was "Reinstating the death penalty, but only for pedophiles", they'd win in a landslide.

I don't doubt you're right for a second either.

[Disco]

That's kind of in there with giving them the gear in the first place and I wasn't arguing that it was a workable solution. I was saying it's the only possible solution, but the outcome would have likely been worse than the current one. (See: Saddam Hussein)

Quite, even if you decide to leave them the slice of the USAF they would need to run everything you still just armed a potentially hostile Islamic nation and made them a sizeable power in the region with no real assurances that they're going to be your friends or run their country in the way you want them to. The alternative is staying there forever, like Korea, without any of the strategic upsides.

[phonics]

I don't doubt you're right for a second either.

Relatedly I saw this and I'm like 'looks like the same platform as 49% of the country voted for last time round'

https://i.imgur.com/vTKJUEi.png

[Manc]

Yevrah

[Bernanke]

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You can definitely turn this into a viable democratic nation by sending troops there for 20 years and holding some classes on how to treat women. :cab:

[Spikey M]

Relatedly I saw this and I'm like 'looks like the same platform as 49% of the country voted for last time round'

https://i.imgur.com/vTKJUEi.png

They're basically becoming the Southern States of America.

[Lewis]

'Rejection of science'. :harold:

[phonics]

These people can't poll a western election between two parties correctly and I'm supposed to believe their findings when it comes to Afghanistan public sentiment? How the fuck did they even survey them?

[Bernanke]

These people can't poll a western election between two parties correctly and I'm supposed to believe their findings when it comes to Afghanistan public sentiment? How the fuck did they even survey them?

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/09/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

https://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

"Interviews".

[phonics]

38 thousand interviews representing the views of 2 billion people lol.

[Bernanke]

https://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2013/04/gsi2-appc-1.png

Sampling a population, how does it work?

Edit: Hey, they even had specifics per country.

Afghanistan
Sample design: Stratified area probability sample of all 34 Afghan provinces (excluding nomadic populations) proportional to population size and urban/rural population.
Mode: Face-to-face adults 18+
Languages: Baloch, Dari, Hazara, Pashto, Uzbek
Fieldwork dates: Nov. 27–Dec. 17, 2011
Representative: Nationally representative of 94% of the adult population.
Design effect: 3.4

[Spikey M]

I don't think this stuff can ever be truly representative because the real wingnuts are going to stop for a chat with a cunt with a clipboard. If you want to get their opinions you'd have to do it via the Muslim version of Fox News or something.

[Bernanke]

Overall point I was making is that the country is an irredeemable shithole (to borrow from Donny's vocab) with zero overall interest in anything Western. It's not like a silent majority is suddenly going to be oppressed by the Taliban. A few high-profile women will be dragged through the streets, a few interpreters who got left behind will be stoned to death, and it'll return to the general state it's been in for the decades before the invasion.

[phonics]

https://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2013/04/gsi2-appc-1.png

Sampling a population, how does it work?

Edit: Hey, they even had specifics per country.

Afghanistan
Sample design: Stratified area probability sample of all 34 Afghan provinces (excluding nomadic populations) proportional to population size and urban/rural population.
Mode: Face-to-face adults 18+
Languages: Baloch, Dari, Hazara, Pashto, Uzbek
Fieldwork dates: Nov. 27–Dec. 17, 2011
Representative: Nationally representative of 94% of the adult population.
Design effect: 3.4

Yes and that's absolute nonsense. 1500 people are representative of 94% of the population of Afghanistan (38 million people) give or take 5%?

It's nonsense and lies and a scam.

[Bernanke]

Yes and that's absolute nonsense. 1500 people are representative of 94% of the population of Afghanistan (38 million people) give or take 5%?

It's nonsense and lies and a scam.

So your argument is that statistics as a whole is bullshit?

[phonics]

Yes. From an economic standpoint it's used to produce something that supports the conclusion of whoevers paying you to do it.

From a political standpoint they've proved themselves absolutely useless over and over and over.

[Ian]

So your argument is that statistics as a whole is bullshit?

Well, 82% of them are.

[Spikey M]

:D

[phonics]

Based on an interview with me and there being about 30 active posters (a far higher ratio than 1500:38000000) I can presume with a 5% margin of error that 100% of the board thinks the same as I do on every subject ever.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm not sure that's how maths works.

[Pepe]

So your argument is that statistics as a whole is bullshit?

Statistics? No. Surveys? Definitely.

[Kikó]

It's amazing that sampling a population is suddenly useless. You should write a paper on it before big Survey crushes you.

[phonics]

I'm not sure that's how maths works.
Similar to the stat on Afghanistan, I’m talking to my editor now and he said ‘Change the number to 99% so they don’t think we’re just making it up.’

[Pepe]

It's amazing that sampling a population is suddenly useless. You should write a paper on it before big Survey crushes you.

I am not afraid of them.

[Spikey M]

Statistics as a whole aren't bullshit but as with Pepe's email the other day, they very easily can be. Especially with small samples, which this has.

[Pepe]

If you are in fucking Afghanistan and someone comes around asking you questions about Sharia, I am sure most people will just answer whatever they think is less likely to get them killed.

[Pepe]

Which is the number one issue with surveys: people answer based on what they think is the correct answer, not on what they actually "believe" (believe goes in quotations since very few people hold actual beliefs on anything). If you want to really know what people value, watch their actions. They tell you a lot more than what they respond when asked.

[Shindig]

"Oh, I loved her first album." <sound of a gun being loaded>

[phonics]

It's amazing that sampling a population is suddenly useless. You should write a paper on it before big Survey crushes you.

A couple of thoughts;
1) Looking at the members of ‘The British Polling Council’, most of the ones big enough to have their own wiki page have only existed since the mid to late 2000s. I don’t think they suddenly got shit, I think they always were we just have statistical data (lol) to show how it’s flawed.

2) Maybe older polling pre-2000s was more correct thanks to a more homogenous opinion/Overton Window due to; a low information populace, less diversity in media etc. Going back to this being an American company. Only 2/3rds of the country could read in the 1950s. Considering how thick everyone is we’re a far more educated populace now which creates nuance that you can’t get from talking to 300 people and saying it speaks for 3 million.

[Spikey M]

My employer sends out Resident Satisfaction Surveys every year and they are absolutely pointless. They were wringing their hands over it last year because the "Very Satisfied" percentage went up (great) but so did the "Very Unsatisfied" one (:() and they were fretting over the lack of Middle ground.

They employed a fucking team to phone around the people that didn't return the survey and were somehow surprised that it was the entirety of the middle ground they were missing. Well fucking obviously lads, no cunt fills out a survey to say "yeah s'alright".

[Raoul Duke]

"Oh, I loved her first album." <sound of a gun being loaded>

That don't impress me much

[Lewis]

I think you just know when surveys are bullshit. I knew the Conservative Party were going to win in 2015, in spite of the polls, just as phonics can presumably feel that Afghanistan is a lot more enlightened than that survey would suggest.

[Lewis]

My colleague knows this legend (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14245758/british-soldier-ian-cameron-arrested-alcohol-kabul-afghanistan/), who he says was actually arrested because he put his prices up, so nobody was really worried about him since it was just a routine shakedown thing. But obviously things have slipped a bit over there, so ​the prison officers released him with a mobile phone and a rag for his head and told him to run for it. He rang his wife and posted a Facebook appeal for help, and his old network got him on a flight back. The balls on that man. He was making a fortune as well. :cool:

[Queenslander]

I look forward to my mates in China stabilising the country while turning it into the world's biggest open cut mine.

[Disco]

Why bother though given the place is such a nightmare to get into and out of, that's half the reason it had been left to the pyjama crew for so long.

[Queenslander]

They won't care what the Pyjama mob get up to as long they get a taste of the sweet natural resources needed to keep them ticking over eg lithium, gold and copper.

Sharing a border with them makes it even easier.

[Don]

The vids that have 'four lions' trending :D it's like Planet of the Apes (not racist as no BLM).

[Yevrah]

I think you just know when surveys are bullshit. I knew the Conservative Party were going to win in 2015, in spite of the polls, just as phonics can presumably feel that Afghanistan is a lot more enlightened than that survey would suggest.

The all time classic has to be that recent one (around June time) that confidently asserted something like 82% of people were following COVID rules. I doubt it was ever that high, but that high in June this year, after over a year of this arse? Not a fucking chance in hell.

[Kikó]

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All about the talibanter.

[Disco]

Have we found a new development index, how shitty and slow your bumper cars are? Anderton & Rowland have missed a trick here.

[Spikey M]

1427268019714240512?s=19

... how?

[Jimmy Floyd]

I was fighting for some serious freedoms trying to get out of the Sainsbury's car park last night.

[Spikey M]

Jim, you translate Engine parts to French Farmers all day. You should be on the New Years Honours list with Abdul.

[Jimmy Floyd]

That's just dirty talk really. Bonjour, Jean-Michel, vous voudriez faire raidir votre vilebrequin? Mais oui, bien sur je peux vous aider.

[Kikó]

Femi is the biggest fucking idiot ever.

[Spikey M]

I can't even begin to understand his train of thought. Does he think the Taliban were a threat to our Freedom? If not how did the translators protect our freedom?

I'm on board with letting them seek refuge here. They're at risk and they did play a part in gaining freedom for their own country, but why do people like Femi have to add a layer of bullshit onto everything?

[Don]

Would you be picking on him if he was called Frank and had the same gammon roots as yourselves? Thought so.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The Taliban are/were a threat to our freedom in the sense that they harboured terrorists who targeted the west. Whether Femi is thinking this or just trotting out more glib asides for FBPE likes in the hope he will never have to get a proper job, who could possibly say.

[Baz]

1427257165367193615

:harold:

[Lewis]

If Nige gets the dinghies sunk then I'll take back every time I ever slagged him off.

[Queenslander]

The 15 year old kid who stabbed Toutai Kefu and his mate who was with him will both be deported if convicted.

[Spikey M]

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[Ian]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-58244518

Plus a big twitter thread of somebody digging through 4chan posts about it: https://twitter.com/Angus_Duncan/status/1426881259524050944?s=08

Either way this fella sounds like a total moron who'd have been no great loss had the Taliban got him.

[Spikey M]

Genuinely gutted he wasn't one of the people clinging to the side of that plane.

[Ian]

Genuinely gutted he wasn't one of the people clinging to the side of that plane.

:D

[Lofty]

An execution video posted where he is inadvertently Ellis from Die Hard.

[Spikey M]

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What a man. :cool:

[Ian]

:cool:

[Bernanke]

What an absolute don. :cool:

[Offshore Toon]

I like to think I'd help out in almost any situation, but fighting an alligator just ain't happening.

[Manc]

Dylan's a nonce.

[Lofty]

Looks like it's The End of the Line for him.

[Alex]

I mean, I'm a huge Bob Dylan fan so any defence of him is probably going to come across as hero worship, but it genuinely looks to be a very tenuous accusation.

She claims he groomed and abused her over a six week period in April and May of 1965 at the Chelsea Hotel in New York during a time when his life was very well documented to the point where it's basically fact that he didn't spend more than a couple of days in New York during said period. In fact, for much of it was in England on tour, actually documented by one of the the most famous music documentaries of all time.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/bob-dylan-assault-accusations-timeline_n_611beb8fe4b0ff60bf7a46ad?ri18n=true


“It’s not possible. Dylan was touring England during that time, and was in Los Angeles for two of those weeks, plus a day or two at Woodstock,” in upstate New York, Heylin told HuffPost. “The tour was 10 days, but Bob flew into London on April 26 and arrived back in New York on June 3.”

“If Dylan was in New York in mid-April, it was for no more than a day or two,” he added. “Woodstock was where he spent most of his time when not touring. And if he was in NYC, he invariably stayed at his manager’s apartment in Gramercy, not the Chelsea.”

Heylin also said the singer didn’t start living at the Chelsea Hotel until autumn of that year.

The alleged abuse would have occurred while a film crew was following Dylan around 24/7 for what became the 1967 documentary “Don’t Look Back.” Heylin said he is skeptical the singer could have gotten away with the alleged abuse during the most documented time of his life.

[Queenslander]

Didn't most big name musicians in the 60's and 70's get their end away in underage teenage girls?

[Lewis]

lol out loud at all of the seething MPs utterly incapable of processing twenty years worth of delusions and shit policy coming crashing down in a week. As a group they literally have no idea what to do and say about it, which is why it pointlessly went on for years, and why we're now split down the middle between idiots wanting to re-invade the place and muh women 'n' girls.

[Lofty]

On the Dylan stuff it is unlikely but not impossible, my uncle used to work lights at a big theatre that Steven Seagal played a few years ago with his band, apparently Seagal was there with his shaolin monk mate and two suspiciously young eastern european girls and no-one challenged it.

[Ian]

I can't imagine many things which would be less surprising than Seagal turning out to be a nonce.

[Jimmy Floyd]

While looking at an article on R Kelly's trial for being a nonce/perve/rapist or whatever he is, it suddenly struck me how absurd courtroom sketches are.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/FF20/production/_120021356_rkellyartistreuters.jpg

Like, why is there someone at a nonce trial with the pastels out doing a full Tony Hart job on some people sat behind a desk? It's ridiculous. If photos aren't allowed then fine but why do we need this?

[Pepe]

How much for the NFT?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Baz has bid $2500.

[Queenslander]

Scummo committing to only 3000 refugees is another on brand desicion. Ideally for him/happy clappers and the White Nationalists they would be dumped on Manus Island indefinitely.

[Danny]

I can't imagine many things which would be less surprising than Seagal turning out to be a nonce.

The ‘Behind the Bastards’ podcast on him was eye opening.

[Ian]

He's an absolute loon.

[SvN]

While looking at an article on R Kelly's trial for being a nonce/perve/rapist or whatever he is, it suddenly struck me how absurd courtroom sketches are.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/FF20/production/_120021356_rkellyartistreuters.jpg

Like, why is there someone at a nonce trial with the pastels out doing a full Tony Hart job on some people sat behind a desk? It's ridiculous. If photos aren't allowed then fine but why do we need this?

https://i.imgur.com/VRiV6aH.jpg

[Baz]

https://pagesix.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/12/tekashi-sentenced-sketch-2.jpg

[Shindig]

That's on a wall of your house, isn't it?

Not a surprise but still a shit way to go. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58272740)

[Yevrah]

What the hell is this all about?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58273914

Do they actively want to torch their business model?

[Queenslander]

Probably for the best in the long run. I can easily see some Sheila suing them in the future on the grounds of mental health/exploited/etc.

[Pepe]

Nudes still allowed. They just want to keep it classy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They'll be dead by Christmas.

[Kikó]

As it explains, getting the cash and having banking services is the issue. Pornography is basically blacklisted for most banks.

[Giggles]

Which is strange in itself seeing as it makes money and it's not as if banks morals are anywhere other than the gutter anyway.

[Kikó]

It's because of the links to human trafficking and prostitution plus the reputational risk.

(But you're right that some banks also like to bank for warlords and despots)

[niko_cee]

Some.

:harold:

[Kikó]

Some small banks might not bank Gadaffi.. I guess?

[Ian]

Classic Keeks, believing whatever Small Banking tells him.

[Jimmy Floyd]

My company uses an Israeli bank (because why wouldn't you) and about 20 countries therefore have to send us funds via some kind of back channel as they refuse to deal with the cunning Jew. I always find it hilarious that they won't deal with a certain bank for that reason, but all actual crimes committed by all the other banks are A-OK.

[Lofty]

The best thing about this Onlyfans news from a local angle is a couple from my home town have just been exposed as selling videos of themselves on it, the girl wearing massive strap ons and abusing the fella with them. Sure they'll be glad they have had the double whammy of infamy coupled with their business model crumbling in the same month :D

[Yevrah]

BANKING can be added to the list of things that Kik's will always trust then....

This makes no sense to me at all. It'd be similar to Tim Martin saying 'alcohol causes problems in society, so on 1st October we're going to remove all alcohol from all of our 925 pubs'.

Maybe the OF's owners have already trousered enough money not to care, but I can't see how their platform will go any way other than that Play.com on the back of this.

[Spikey M]

It does seem a strange decision and I allowed myself a little chuckle at BIGBANKING being above porn money.

[Disco]

I assume the adult industry makes a reasonable amount of money, they must put it in a bank at some point.

[Spikey M]

It's all under one of their well worn mattresses.

[Offshore Toon]

They're doing it to sell it off.

[Yevrah]

They're doing it to sell it off.

Because it makes good business sense to tank its value before doing that?

[Disco]

It does seem an odd move but if it opens up the range of people willing to buy it then it just might. The modern tactic is to demonstrate a service is profitable then flog it to a sovereign wealth fund, which is more likely if it's not stuffed with porn.

[Kikó]

BANKING can be added to the list of things that Kik's will always trust then....

This makes no sense to me at all. It'd be similar to Tim Martin saying 'alcohol causes problems in society, so on 1st October we're going to remove all alcohol from all of our 925 pubs'.

Maybe the OF's owners have already trousered enough money not to care, but I can't see how their platform will go any way other than that Play.com on the back of this.

I work for a bank and pretty well versed in AML but please tell me more oh divine one.

[Spikey M]

And Yevrahs a Pornstar. I know who I'm backing (oi oi).

[Disco]

Is Mark Noble on Onlyfans?

[Yevrah]

I work for a bank and pretty well versed in AML but please tell me more oh divine one.

Unless you're telling me that Pornhub etc. and the major porn studios are genuinely keeping all of their money under mattresses and you have proof of such, I don't care where you work - the porn industry will manage its money through banks like everyone else does.

I would respectfully suggest that you need to be less trusting of what you're told or what you see on face value.

[Spikey M]

Is Mark Noble on Onlyfans?

Just verified on Porn Hub I think.

You can send him a tip but you'll have to put it through his letterbox because he's not allowed a bank account.

[Ian]

You can send him a tip

Just the tip.

[Disco]

The difference is probably down to payment processing between users rather than just being able to open an account at your local Barclays. Still doesn't seem like it should be an insurmountable problem or Mahow would be a whole lot richer.

[Boydy]

Remember when Yev wanted to start his own porn company?

[Spikey M]

Now who's stealing posts that have already been made, huh?

[Raoul Duke]

I work for a bank and pretty well versed in AML but please tell me more oh divine one.

AML = Arse-to-Mouth-Lesbians?

[Kikó]

Unless you're telling me that Pornhub etc. and the major porn studios are genuinely keeping all of their money under mattresses and you have proof of such, I don't care where you work - the porn industry will manage its money through banks like everyone else does.

I would respectfully suggest that you need to be less trusting of what you're told or what you see on face value.

It's down to the organisations risk appetite when it comes to having this sort of business on the books.I doubt pornhub banks with a major US bank.

And on the list line, respectfully fuck off. I work for a bank, I know the type of customers we have and the procedures and KYC processes we have to go through.

[Spikey M]

Respectfully tell us what you know about KY Jelly processes.

[Offshore Toon]

Because it makes good business sense to tank its value before doing that?
Businesses see the user base and move from there. I don't agree with it, but I'm fairly sure Tumblr was a place for perverts before Yahoo took it over.

[Lewis]

They're doing it to sell it off.


It does seem an odd move but if it opens up the range of people willing to buy it then it just might. The modern tactic is to demonstrate a service is profitable then flog it to a sovereign wealth fund, which is more likely if it's not stuffed with porn.

Yeah, they want to move into more respectable content lines, i.e. singers posting shit and whatever else, possibly in order to sell it to some other twats, which you can't do if you're known as the grumble app.

Banks can fuck off as well. Private ones can do what they want; but if you expect the taxpayer to backstop you and bail you out when necessary, your services should be available to anybody doing anything that you can't prove to be illegal.

[Ian]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58272740

"The US air force has also confirmed that human remains were found in the landing gear of an aircraft after it arrived in Qatar."

:sick:

[mikem]

Yes, yes - thinking that it is inconceivable that major financial institutions could cut off funding / services to Only Fans is silly when Visa and MasterCard shut off access to Pornhub in December 2020 over how videos were posted.

If you want to read more:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/14/business/mastercard-visa-discover-pornhub/index.html

And is there any such potential issue with Only Fans? Here is a BBC report clearly showing this moves comes in the dead zone between outlets getting internal documents but before the stories are out:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58255865.amp

[Disco]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58272740

"The US air force has also confirmed that human remains were found in the landing gear of an aircraft after it arrived in Qatar."

:sick:

Makes a change from blowing them up at a wedding I suppose.

[Spikey M]

Atleast he/some of him made it out of Afghanistan too.

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-58272630

I can only imagine what treasures might ensue if they award the UK city of culture to Medway.

[Ian]

Where the fuck is Medway?

[Spikey M]

The wilds of Kent.

[Pepe]

Ian exposing himself as uncultured. :harold:

[Yevrah]

I toyed with the idea of moving to Medway for work and then I saw the place. Bullet dodged.

[Spikey M]

I briefly considered it too when I found a 4 bed house for about £12.50. Sadly, there's a reason. There's also a reason they created the worlds first Covid VARIANT.

[Ian]

Ian exposing himself as uncultured. :harold:

:cool:

[Alex]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-58272630

I can only imagine what treasures might ensue if they award the UK city of culture to Medway.

Wakefield in the mix. :cool:

Hepworth Gallery. Something about rhubarb. Pie shop. Don't see how we can lose, to be honest.

[Lewis]

Ian Watkins lives locally.

[Shindig]

I hope you mean the one from Steps.

[Spikey M]

He's the worse of the 2 tbh.

[Ian]

You know he doesn't.

[Lewis]

This Sporting Life. The National Coal Mining Museum. John Harrison the clockmaker. You could claim Henry Moore and the people making the decision wouldn't know any better. It probably has the least ethnics of any city in the region as well, so the White Rose gimmick writes itself.

[Queenslander]

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/companies/a-bad-business-decision-australian-creators-disappointed-by-onlyfans-change-20210820-p58kgf.html?fbclid=IwAR1Qpccstto69lEKvraK8rh9IcsUE sBnnSkO7xqW5BKZ62sGk-DmPuXagIQ



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:happycry:

[Shindig]

Isn't that the thing every content creator moans about? Check your emails for "Changes to Terms and Conditions" silly. And 'responsible for your success' is a bit rich when the money floating around that system is all crowdfunded. The service doesn't owe you anything.

[Spikey M]

How is she one of Australia's top slags? Flat chested, man jawed bint.

[Queenslander]

How is she one of Australia's top slags? Flat chested, man jawed bint.

Many, many women seem to think there isn't anything between them and a Super Model.

[Queenslander]

Isn't that the thing every content creator moans about? Check your emails for "Changes to Terms and Conditions" silly. And 'responsible for your success' is a bit rich when the money floating around that system is all crowdfunded. The service doesn't owe you anything.

Dog brains a plenty down here.

[Disco]

If it's all about the creators then they should find it relatively simple to set up a website and carry on as they were.

[Yevrah]

Now I think about it, those most pleased with this change will probably be ManyVids and then the porn industry itself.

[Ian]

Dunno where to put this but I just saw it on Twitter:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9Qp280XIAE7QtB?format=jpg&name=large

Fuck's sake. :D