News of the day

[niko_cee]

In fairness, it's the other people who are wasting their own money.

[Shindig]

Willingly, too. What I want to know is how long it took him to train the pup. Because that shows commitment to a stupid private joke. I get that he doesn't want the criminal record and to be labelled as a nazi but ... he took every wrong step along the way.

[Spikey M]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5679241/Essex-teacher-kicked-female-pupil-branded-f-ugly-barred-classrooms.html

He was my form tutor all the way through Secondary school. :|

[Pepe]

Did he stroke your hair?

[Spikey M]

Nope. Just my cock.

[wullie]

I remember a load of news vans turning up to school when this happened https://www.thefreelibrary.com/PUPILS+FORCED+TO+STRIP+IN+HUNT+FOR+MISSING+PEN%3B+ Fury+at+Sir%27s+search.-a061308498


SCHOOL pupils were ordered to strip down to their underwear by a teacher...because a ballpoint pen had gone missing.

Sixteen boys, aged 12 and 13, had to remove their red jumpers, white shirts, black trousers and shoes and socks, so the clothing could be searched.

Two girls in the class were taken to another room and their school bags were inspected. But the pen - the third that had gone missing from the class - was not found. Furious parents protested about the strip-search and teacher Peter Adams now faces disciplinary action at Cardinal Wiseman Roman Catholic School in Coventry.

Dad Jim Lennon, whose son Kevin, 12, is in the class, said last night: "I could hardly believe it when he told me.

"Every one of the children denied taking the pen - and they were told to start taking off their clothes. The teacher told them not to laugh or they would all be sent home."

Upset

Mum April Maddison said her 12-year-old son Paul was forced to strip down to his boxer shorts.

She added: "He was upset and didn't want to go back to school today."

The pupils had just finished a French lesson when it was realised that her Parker pen had gone missing.

No one owned up to having it, so the French teacher called in Mr Adams, the deputy head of year.

Mr Adams, who has taught at the school for 25 years, has now apologised for his "misjudgment".

It is thought he will get a formal warning.

Head Tony Riley said the action was "totally out of character and probably done in frustration".

There was "no question" of sexual impropriety.

That last line, the question was firmly answered a few years later.

[Lewis]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-43987148

lol at that fucking grass.

[Kikó]

The argument between the bloke who created Father Ted and DUKULA is intensely boring as well.

[Pepe]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-43987148

lol at that fucking grass.

I should leak the conversations from The Group.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Isn't it all just tee heeing at me and Giggles as well as stroking Benny's and GS's cocks?

[Kikó]

We've automated the conversation now and had to let Luca go.

[Disco]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-43987148

lol at that fucking grass.

I should leak some of their attempts at parking, get rid of a few more.

[randomlegend]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-43987148

lol at that fucking grass.

https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/6914/production/_100500962_11landscape.jpg

That ones a fucking quote/paraphrase from "Four Lions" for fuck's sake :D

EDIT


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAqIFtlH_hA

[Shindig]

Okay, this one instance where context matters.

[SvN]

"Fuck mini-babybells" got the biggest laugh I've ever experienced in a cinema.

[SvN]

992345338848653312

What? Apparently, John Terry has launched a swimwear range (https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/how-john-terry-taking-top-12475162)?!

[Lewis]

I saw something ages ago about him investing in a company that made swimming shorts, but it struck me as insurance against gambling bankruptcy. Good for him. It's a better retirement plan than pretend boxing.

[Pepe]

Something about diving.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I saw something ages ago about him investing in a company that made swimming shorts, but it struck me as insurance against gambling bankruptcy. Good for him. It's a better retirement plan than pretend boxing.

Especially with licences being so hard to come by.

[Giggles]

Shame is dead.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0504/960409-living-donor-transplant-case/

[Shindig]

If they argue it failed due to negligence, they might have a point. Not that the article implies that.

[John]

Shame is dead.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0504/960409-living-donor-transplant-case/

It's odd to think of someone who's donated an organ as hateful, but she sounds fucking hateful.

[Spikey M]

She needs a punch in the remaining kidney.

[Foe]

I'm no doctor, but I'm pretty sure they'd make you some kind of disclaimer before that sort of surgery to cover themselves given it's not a definite success.

Sweet precedent if it goes through though.

[Disco]

There's something impressive and terrifying about a volcano, plus you get to play the game of 'will there be more or less of Hawaii' after this eruption?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44027883

[Magic]

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/dundee/651381/medical-tribunal-hears-babys-head-was-pulled-off-in-womb-during-tragic-botched-delivery-at-ninewells-hospital/

What. The. FUCK.

A consultant gynaecologist at Ninewells Hospital caused an unborn baby to be accidentally decapitated inside her mother’s womb as she carried out a bungled delivery, a medical tribunal has heard.

THE HORROR.

Oh my lord it get's worse as you go on.

[Pepe]

Keep your hand out of your pants.

[SvN]

Jesus. The poor woman will be traumatised for life.

[Spikey M]

Well that’s fucked.

[Alex]

Shit. :|

[Spikey M]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-44068562

“Stoke-on-Trent house '30in too tall' risks demolition”

Land of Hope and Glory.

[Disco]

While you can never rule out local planning authorities doing something totally illogical and batshit insane, 99 times out of 100 this will be solved with a retrospective planning application. Rarely are people made to tear their house down unless they've built it inside an existing shed or behind a big pile of hay bales (neither of those are made up by the way) in an attempt to get past the moratorium on planning permission.

[niko_cee]

That hay bales guy was a legend.

[Lewis]

Yeah. He should have got an MBE.

[Disco]

It was a horrible place though, the kind of thing you'd see a cliched East End gangster living in. All mock tudor and gold sovereigns.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It was a horrible place though, the kind of thing you'd see a cliched East End gangster living in. All mock tudor and gold sovereigns.

Probably why his MBE was refused.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/e09fc3c8-c4f8-4877-b598-309a04df37f6


There's never been much debate around nappy changing. It can be a bit gross sometimes (ok, most of the time), but it's not usually that political. It's a non-negotiable part of being a new parent.

But that all changed this week, when a sexuality educator suggested that people ask their babies for consent before changing their nappies.

Speaking to Australia’s ABC News on 8 May, Deanne Carson said she works with parents from birth teaching them "to set up a culture of consent in the home" and to talk to their newborn baby saying things like "I’m going to change your nappy now, is that OK?"

“Of course a baby’s not going to respond and say, ‘Yes, mum, that’s awesome, I’d love to have my nappy changed!’ but if you leave a space, and wait for body language, and wait to make eye contact, then you’re letting that child know that their response matters,” says Deanne.

Fucking hell.

[Baz]

Moronic.

[Yevrah]

That baby delivery story is something else. There must be about 10 "what the fuck?" moments in the article. :sick:

[Baz]

Footballers' wages leaked again: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/8ipp22/football_leaks_arsenal_pays_aubameyang_173m/dytn776/

Alexis on £390k a week. :harold: and £75k bonus if he starts a game wtf.

[Shindig]

I've only just read the baby delivery one. :|

[niko_cee]

That nappy change consent thing sort of falls apart when they learn to say (or indicate) no, which they invariably do, and then say/do all the time. What then?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That nappy change consent thing sort of falls apart when they learn to say (or indicate) no, which they invariably do, and then say/do all the time. What then?

Let them walk around with shit in their pants.

That'll teach 'em.

[Shindig]

The parents would still have to clean them up, though. Who wins in that scenario?

[Kikó]

Freedom of choice.

[niko_cee]

Footballers' wages leaked again: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/8ipp22/football_leaks_arsenal_pays_aubameyang_173m/dytn776/

Alexis on £390k a week. :harold: and £75k bonus if he starts a game wtf.

The best thing about that 'Alexis' contract is its length. Absolute madness. I'd go as far to say Winston Bogarde country. We (being Liverpool) seem to have come out of it quite well 'only' paying Salah and Van Dijk £125k a week.

[Spikey M]

I have a 2 year old that doesn’t sit still for shit (lol). She’s nearly potty trained but needs a nappy if we go out. If I asked her if I can change her nappy she would still be wearing one from last month. Changing a toddler is like wrestling a snake.

Putting all that aside, consent is all well and good when the thinking agent has the ability to make a decision on what’s in their interest. There’s a reason that having sex with a minor, even if they consent, is illegal. You’d think someone that into this stuff would be able to grasp that pretty fucking simple concept. Otherwise where are we? Baby, can Daddy touch you down there? Yes? Awwwww. Fucking hell.

[John]

If you're giving them the chance to refuse consent for something so obviously in their best interests what do you do when they refuse to eat anything but jelly babies for six months? Or you tell them that they can't just take their trousers off and lie on the floor of Tesco all day? Or any of the other civilised behaviours that children generally reject for years?

See how she gets on when she gets her kid taken away for leaving baby's first shit strapped to its arse until it's eighteen months old. What a cunt.

[Disco]

... what do you do when they refuse to eat anything but jelly babies for six months? Or you tell them that they can't just take their trousers off and lie on the floor of Tesco all day?

What else is Mahow going to do at the weekend?

[Dquincy]

I wonder if the sexuality expert has children. I'm guessing she hasn't.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The best thing about that 'Alexis' contract is its length. Absolute madness. I'd go as far to say Winston Bogarde country. We (being Liverpool) seem to have come out of it quite well 'only' paying Salah and Van Dijk £125k a week.

With the top, TOP players it will soon get like baseball where you have washed up 39 year olds in the 8th of an 11 year contract on £30 million a year being absolutely shite but the team is unable to do anything with them, because the only alternative was letting another team have them to begin with.

Pogba's next contract, for example, with any club, will be one that sees him into his mid 30s on monstrous money.

[niko_cee]

This (http://metro.co.uk/2018/05/16/seven-sausage-dogs-maul-woman-death-home-7550698/) can't possibly have happened.

How can you be mauled to death by 7 tiny dogs? She looks more likely to have eaten them if anything. The Sun has a slightly more amusing rendition of the story (with one of the little blighters 'charging' police).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-44153864

A mum from Sweden has taken drastic steps when a tattoo of her son Kevin's name was spelled wrongly.

To make sure her new ink was accurate, the mum (who wants to be known only as Johanna) decided to officially change five-year-old Kevin's name to Kelvin.

After looking into getting the tattoo removed, Johanna was told it could take up to a year to get the work fully removed.

"After thinking a little, we decided to rename him Kelvin," she says.

:lol:

[Baz]

Heard this (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44149281) on the radio today and the report just kept getting better.

So the blokes vape stick thing first exploded and the glass shards penetrated his skull, and then it caught fire and set him on fire. Double dead.

Serves you right for ever smoking. :harold:

[Kikó]

I hate those penis pipes and all that smoke them.

[randomlegend]

Vaping somehow annoys me more than smoking.

[phonics]

This happened in my families (and I guess Mellins?) end. It's a bit odd as I always thought of Erdington as the place I would get stabbed not the Sutton Coldfield Mall.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/18/boy-arrested-over-fatal-stabbing-of-16-year-old-in-sutton-coldfield?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_b-gdnnews#link_time=1526646713

[Spikey M]

There's something impressive and terrifying about a volcano, plus you get to play the game of 'will there be more or less of Hawaii' after this eruption?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44027883

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44187836

“The first serious injury has been reported as Hawaii continues to grapple with weeks of volcanic eruptions and lava flow.
The injured man was sitting on a balcony at his home when "lava spatter" - projectile molten rock - landed on him.”

Fuck. That.
‪

[Yaysus]

This (http://metro.co.uk/2018/05/16/seven-sausage-dogs-maul-woman-death-home-7550698/) can't possibly have happened.

How can you be mauled to death by 7 tiny dogs? She looks more likely to have eaten them if anything. The Sun has a slightly more amusing rendition of the story (with one of the little blighters 'charging' police).

pitbull mixes, what did you expect? that dog breed should've stopped existing a century ago

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-44209141

The rapper invited the woman, who identified herself only as "Delaney", to sing M.A.A.D City during his set at the Hangout Festival in Alabama.

But Kendrick stopped her after she repeatedly used the N-word - which is heard multiple times in his song.

As the crowd reacted angrily, Kendrick told her: "You gotta bleep one single word."

lol.

[Magic]

She appeared not to realise why she had been stopped, and asked: "Am I not cool enough for you, bro?"

That is an epic reply. Though she should have asked for a pass before the song started.

[Spikey M]

That looks fake as fuck in the video

[Mazuuurk]

It's a bit prissy I think to use a word in your own lyrics and then not accept that other people use it when singing the songs. It always looks a little stupid when white people do that obviously but still. If you don't like the word being used, as an artist maybe don't use it. I can get that it might be hard to change the way you speak every day, but when you write songs you could leave it out then.


She handled the situation well though so fair play to her.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

https://s31.postimg.cc/sgr91z3or/nigger.jpg (https://postimg.cc/image/reh2jfkvb/)

What is wrong with people?

Those ratios are fucked up.

[Shindig]

I dunno about you guys but I specifically go to rap gigs to hear radio edits. :dc:

[Dquincy]

Is an offensive word. Nobody should use it.

[Shindig]

Their mistake was re-appropriating it in the first place.

[Baz]

If you wanna hear white people say the N word, that’s basically all a Hopsin concert is. Was diabolical. He didn’t even seem to mind, pretty much encouraged it.

[Spikey M]

If you say it, help make it fashionable and advertise towards market sectors that are heavily white, you have no business getting pissy about it. Especially if you invite someone white up on stage to sing a fucking song that is 90% ‘N word’.

It’s either a stunt, or he’s a fucking mong.

[Lewis]

I thought that. Probably the former, and that makes him a massive cunt.

[Mazuuurk]

Decent comment on the topic:

http://variety.com/2018/music/opinion/kendrick-lamar-rappers-should-stop-using-n-word-1202818977/

Of course, the writer is black. You sort of get the feeling a white journalist wouldn't have wanted to publish that for fear of backlash.

[John]

The 'both sides have valid arguments' shit in that article renders it meaningless. Only one side does. It's perfectly reasonable for that girl to assume that having been invited on stage to sing a song chosen by the person inviting her on stage, that it's fine for her to do so. It's deeply unreasonable for that arsehole to have invited her on stage to sing a song he's chosen then go off on one when she gets the lyrics right.

He can fuck right off.

[Mazuuurk]

I don't think he's referring to the girl when saying that, as he seems to be defending her. Granted, it's such a sensitive subject so you'd expect any journalist to be very PC about it all. But at least the main statement - at least how I interpret it from the title - is stop using the damn word since it's clearly offensive.

[John]

Did you read the article?


Response has been mixed. Some have accused the young girl of being insensitive and foolishly failing to understand the potential ramifications of a white person using the N-word. Meanwhile, others have wondered why Lamar didn’t use a more lyrically neutral song for the rap-along while branding him a hypocrite for practicing what he preaches against. I believe both sides have valid points.

[Spikey M]

Yeah, that article is just one big fence sit. He might as well be a scared white bloke.

[Mazuuurk]

Did you read the article?

Of course. I was thinking more about this:


If you are going to accept royalties from album sales and concert revenue from both black and white fans, you can’t legitimately expect them to consume your music differently. Would Lamar have reacted the same way to a black fan? Did he really think a starstruck teenage girl who probably has never been in front of such a massive crowd would instinctively know that she was supposed to censor herself when he doesn’t? Is it really fair to have one set of rules for black fans and another for white fans?

[Spikey M]

Which is great, if he hadn’t already cringed and bent over backwards to blame her. I mean, she’s a bit of an idiot for thinking that there wouldn’t be some backlash from black people, but that cunt had no place leading the OUTRAGE. And anyone taking any position other than ‘you don’t invite someone on stage to sing a song, then get shitty when they sing it’ is wrong.

[Mazuuurk]

No I agree with you on that part. I just meant the discussion on the use of the word in general in that article is good. This particular case aside.

[bruhnaldo]

i was listening to NPR this morning and heard a story about my old hometown:

Lake Worth's alert system is hacked and sends out a warning of a zombie invasion

Matthew Diebel, USATODAY Published 9:22 a.m. ET May 23, 2018 | Updated 9:42 a.m. ET May 23, 2018

Somebody has a lot of explaining to do.

Yes, officials in Lake Worth, Fla., a city next to Palm Beach, are trying to find out who sent out a cellphone alert warning of a zombie attack.

Lake Worth spokesman Ben Kerr told the Palm Beach Post that an independent investigation is underway to determine who was behind the message sent to some 7,880 customers during a 27-minute power outage early Sunday.

During the city’s own investigation officials found that no current or former employees hacked the message to include the warning of an alien invasion, Kerr said.

BREAKING: Lake Worth falsely sends out ‘zombie’ alert during power outage https://t.co/LJOVesWFVUpic.twitter.com/7D5HPQovga

— The Palm Beach Post (@pbpost) May 21, 2018
“Those messages are pre-prepared,” Kerr added. “There’s literally thousands of them. At some point, some edits were made and that’s what you saw. Someone edited it with a zombie invasion going on.” He told the paper that “no one was fired for it.”

The zany zombie episode began at 1:41 a.m., when a message went out alerting residents to the power cuts but it also warning of a “zombie alert for Lake Worth and Terminus.” Terminus is nowhere near Lake Worth – it’s a reference to the city in the zombie TV show “The Walking Dead.”

[mikem]

The 'both sides have valid arguments' shit in that article renders it meaningless. Only one side does. It's perfectly reasonable for that girl to assume that having been invited on stage to sing a song chosen by the person inviting her on stage, that it's fine for her to do so. It's deeply unreasonable for that arsehole to have invited her on stage to sing a song he's chosen then go off on one when she gets the lyrics right.

He can fuck right off.

That’s silly. There are boundaries in culture and we all know it. If invited to a Scottish wedding I’m not wearing a kilt. If you are one of those inane American idiots rocking up to Ireland pretending you are Irish you look silly. Would you imitate a gay celebrity when talking with them? Personal responsibility is equal if you don’t want to look an idiot in public. White people are such snowflakes.

[Disco]

I not sure your examples equate, if you were invited to a scotch wedding and the invite carried a dress code then you'd feel hard done by if everyone tutted at your kilt when you arrived.

This guy invited a fan to sing one of his songs then got pissy when she did just that. It was his concert, he's in control.

[John]

That’s silly. There are boundaries in culture and we all know it. If invited to a Scottish wedding I’m not wearing a kilt. If you are one of those inane American idiots rocking up to Ireland pretending you are Irish you look silly. Would you imitate a gay celebrity when talking with them? Personal responsibility is equal if you don’t want to look an idiot in public. White people are such snowflakes.

Neither of which are in any way relevant. It's perfectly reasonable for her to assume that if he's chosen a song with that word in it for her to sing, that in this context it's fine for her to use the word.

To make one of your examples close to apposite, it's like someone inviting you to a Scottish wedding for which kilts are the stated dress code, then tearing strips off you for turning up in one because you should have known it only referred to Scottish people.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

King Kunta is a better song anyway and there's less of the N-word in it. Should have gotten her to sing that.

[Raoul Duke]

Is she retarded? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44230380

[Disco]

Not really, what would be the point of killing her in Russia?

[Disco]

If he had a sensible name like Trevor or Geoffrey this would be the most British story ever.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-44222054

[Alex]

So she was under the impression that she had parked the car on a street "within a mile and a half" of the hospital, but it was actually in a car park about a minutes walk away? Yeah, I wouldn't be letting her back behind the wheel. :D

[Baz]

Why would they be able to successfully appeal the tickets? :nono:

[Shindig]

If the vehicle was moved from the original place it was parked.

[Disco]

It's the best, in America they would be in prison by now and the car would be crushed into a matchbox. All we did was passive aggressively put little notes on it then let them off completely.

[mikem]

Neither of which are in any way relevant. It's perfectly reasonable for her to assume that if he's chosen a song with that word in it for her to sing, that in this context it's fine for her to use the word.

To make one of your examples close to apposite, it's like someone inviting you to a Scottish wedding for which kilts are the stated dress code, then tearing strips off you for turning up in one because you should have known it only referred to Scottish people.

Sure, I should have said that we all know in-groups use derogatory words about their group to indicate kinship and soften the blow. African Americans, women, homosexuals, the obese, and the comely all do this. Even millennials do it with millennial. We all know we can offend using the terms from an out group position regardless of the source. Familiarity is what gets you over the offense hurdle. The more derogatory the word, the higher the familiarity bar. A crowd of mainly white people from the sjw bastion of Alabama understood this. ThatÂ’s just pretty basic social etiquette.

But this notion that black artists must self censor because it is possible that white teenagers may misread social situations and feel embarrassed is dumb.

[Baz]

Are you black mikem?

[Spikey M]

Probably just self hating after being in America for too long.

Nobody alive kept anybody else alive as a slave*. Can we stop pretending this happened 5 years ago? It was a fucking horrible period in history, but there’s been 2 world wars and a mass genocide since then, and the worst we say about the perpetrators of that is that they’re a bit grabby with sun-beds for fuck sake. I know there’s been a lot of racism since then and there’s still a fuck load of police brutality over there, but going on about this stuff and throwing up barriers in the faces of well meaning idiots is not helpful.

*well they have, but you know what I mean

[Lewis]

He should release censored white person versions of his albums like those shit 'clean' ones you used to be able to get of Eminem singles and the like.

[Baz]

He should release censored white person versions of his albums like those shit 'clean' ones you used to be able to get of Eminem singles and the like.They weren't shit, they were class.

Miles more impressive having different lyrics for radio edits, rather than just censoring it with silence. The "clean" Purple Hills/Pills is probably even better than the dirty one.

[Spikey M]

Purple Hills was the worst.

[Lewis]

They weren't shit, they were class.

Miles more impressive having different lyrics for radio edits, rather than just censoring it with silence. The "clean" Purple Hills/Pills is probably even better than the dirty one.

Yeah possibly, but eleven year old me was not impressed when my mother (inadvertently, it must be said, since I was one of those absolute legends who was allowed to watch eighteen-rated films and that) brought home the lame My Name Is.

[Spikey M]

My Auntie once allowed me and my cousins to crank up Prodigy in the car because she thought ‘Slap my bitch up’ was ‘snap my picture’.

[Lewis]

The only thing I can recall her moaning about was this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmKJOdRf_3s), which I still skip because it's shit.

[Shindig]

My Auntie once allowed me and my cousins to crank up Prodigy in the car because she thought ‘Slap my bitch up’ was ‘snap my picture’.

:D

Excellent. And if we're talking radio edits that ruin things, Wu Tang Clan Ain't Nothing to Fuck With. There's barely any lyrics left.

[Giggles]

My Auntie once allowed me and my cousins to crank up Prodigy in the car because she thought ‘Slap my bitch up’ was ‘snap my picture’.

:D
I think that's the single greatest thing I've ever read on here.

[Giggles]

Another win for generation snowflake.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/cork-opera-house-cancels-offensive-roy-chubby-brown-gig-844698.html

[Shindig]

... the fuck is wrong with these cunts?

[Giggles]

... the fuck is wrong with these cunts?

Nobody seems to have heard of a new phenomenon where you don't have to go if you don't want to.

[Boydy]

You voting in the referendum Giggles?

[Giggles]

You voting in the referendum Giggles?

Didn't care enough to register on the electoral list. Even if I was on it, both campaigns are too much of a disgrace to warrant ten minutes of my time.

[Spikey M]

Stepping out of the 1800’s isn’t worth 10 minutes of your time?

[Lewis]

I saw a bit about this on ITV News the other day and they were treating the people against it as cranks. I'm 'pro-choice', to the point where I think our laws (as I understand them) are a bit restrictive, but the 'pro-life' argument also seems a pretty logical one (and one maintained with more consistency than the other side), and not deserving of the ridicule it attracts.

[Spikey M]

I’m pro-life and pro-choice. Given the choice I would keep any child (severe medical issue aside) I helped produce, but I’m not in a position to decide whether that’s right for everyone else. Get an abortion and I’ll possibly agree or disagree with your reasonings, but ultimately it’s none of my business.

[Disco]

I assume the pro-life lot are closely linked to religious groups, which can't be helping their credibility.

[phonics]

I saw a bit about this on ITV News the other day and they were treating the people against it as cranks. I'm 'pro-choice', to the point where I think our laws (as I understand them) are a bit restrictive, but the 'pro-life' argument also seems a pretty logical one (and one maintained with more consistency than the other side), and not deserving of the ridicule it attracts.

If they were also for supporting the type of person that feels it'll ruin their/the childs life then the position is understandable. Otherwise, they're cranks.

[Boydy]

I assume the pro-life lot are closely linked to religious groups, which can't be helping their credibility.
There's been loads of American pro-lifers getting involved in the campaign.

[Spikey M]

Because they’re all Irish, obvs.

[Lewis]

If they were also for supporting the type of person that feels it'll ruin their/the childs life then the position is understandable. Otherwise, they're cranks.

Is this that unless you're willing to cover the bill/adopt the kid you're not 'pro-life' meme that appears to ignore how societies collectivise costs for things? Fine, but enjoy rolling that principle out.

[Boydy]

Because they’re all Irish, obvs.
I think it's more because they're not content with just fucking up their own country.

[Giggles]

Stepping out of the 1800’s isn’t worth 10 minutes of your time?

I just don't care really as I have no interest in 'society'. They keep going on about 100,000 women travelling to England on boats for them but there's only 3 women in my life I give a shit about and I'll look after them of needs be. If the other 99,997 fall into the sea on the way over then that's their problem. Same as the gay marriage one we had too. I'm not gay and haven't kids so it really didn't matter enough to me to go to a polling station.

Anyway, even if I did care, when you've a No side making out that voting yes means you'll be slitting babies throats at 6 months, and Yes side telling any man that votes no that he doesn't trust women therefore he's basically a RAPIST then it's enough to put anyone off bothering. Everyone campaigning for either should be exiled.

[Magic]

What if one of those 3 women wanted an abortion?

[Giggles]

What if one of those 3 women wanted an abortion?

One is too old for it to be a worry and either of the other two would be got to England. I don't have to get 100,000 women over.

[John]

What a backwards, deeply prickish way of thinking.

[Magic]

One is too old for it to be a worry and either of the other two would be got to England. I don't have to get 100,000 women over.

It's a shame the old one didn't go to England circa 40-odd years ago.

[niko_cee]

Really we should be looking for a no vote and then we can tariff the abortions post-brexit. Sweet sweet aborted foetus money.

[Giggles]

What a backwards, deeply prickish way of thinking.

Why would I care about people I don't know? You're hardly a shining beacon of 'love thy neighbour'.

[Spikey M]

Not having opinions on anything that doesn’t directly affect you is more than a bit odd, Giggs. In this case all that’s required to vote is a basic level of empathy.

[Magic]

Why would I care about people I don't know?

:D

[Giggles]

Not having opinions on anything that doesn’t directly affect you is more than a bit odd, Giggs. In this case all that’s required to vote is a basic level of empathy.

Maybe if someone came to me with two buttons then I'd bother as I don't care either way, but I'm not going down a polling station to queue up with wankers I don't know. And anyway, when you say empathy, so you only mean voting the way you want or just voting at all?

[Giggles]

:D

Only way to live. You could waste a whole lifetime worrying about people who don't matter.

[John]

Why would I care about people I don't know? You're hardly a shining beacon of 'love thy neighbour'.

Even taking the people you don't know out of the equation, you'd rather take the risk, however small, that you might have to spend a small fortune to get someone you do care about onto foreign soil for an abortion rather than take half an hour out to pop along to a polling station and check a box?

That's more than just not caring about people you don't know, it's actively spiting yourself to avoid doing anything that might positively impact someone you don't know's life.

You've said you'd get someone you care about an abortion if they needed one, so you obviously think they're fine. Why not vote?

[Spikey M]

Maybe if someone came to me with two buttons then I'd bother as I don't care either way, but I'm not going down a polling station to queue up with wankers I don't know. And anyway, when you say empathy, so you only mean voting the way you want or just voting at all?

No, both sides require empathy. Just different viewpoints.

[Giggles]

Yes is getting in with ease anyway, all the celebrities jumped on it from day one and have been at nothing else since. In all these things there's always a cert so there's zero point in making the effort. Only thing would get me on a voting register is if they ever manage to push one on this "Irish unity" pipe dream. NI voting yes and then us voting no so you can keep them is just :drool: inspiring.

[Baz]

Why would I care about people I don't know?This is exactly how I feel about everything. :thbup:

[Giggles]

Baz :cool:

[Spikey M]

Yes is getting in with ease anyway, all the celebrities jumped on it from day one and have been at nothing else since.

Sounds a lot like Brexit. Good job that didn’t happen.

[Magic]

Giggles baiting all the snowflakes is a joy to behold.

[Kikó]

Slavery doesn't bother me. Why should I care about people I don't know?

Great way to think about the society you live in.

[Giggles]

There isn't a society. Just look after your own affairs and let other people do the same.

[John]

Right, so if someone stole your car you'd just have a look for it yourself and not call the police?

[Giggles]

Right, so if someone stole your car you'd just have a look for it yourself and not call the police?

They're paid to involve themselves in it. Though I probably would be better looking for it myself.

[Boydy]

NI voting yes and then us voting no so you can keep them is just :drool: inspiring.

This would be hilarious, to be fair.

[Boydy]

I'm regretting asking about the referendum now though.

[Giggles]

I'm regretting asking about the referendum now though.

:D

[Shindig]

"Hello and welcome to a united, pro-choice Ireland."
"Feck."

I mean, Giggles is right. He doesn't have a womb and therefore doesn't feel like he has a dog in the fight.

[Pepe]

Giggles. :cool:

Also, I think I am glad that I have never lived in a country where referendums are a thing. Seem like a pointless exercise.

[Giggles]

Giggles. :cool:

Also, I think I am glad that I have never lived in a country where referendums are a thing. Seem like a pointless exercise.

The government are behind yes in this so even if they didn't get the right answer they'd just keep having the referendum until they did. And I'm not even making that up, it's happened before.

[Magic]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/cops-hunt-driver-stolen-car-12595827

Horrible story. Some joy riding cunt caused a crash, but wasn't actually involved properly in it, one of the cars caught fire and only when the fire brigade put it out they realised there had been a person inside. Joy rider sped off and dumped the car.

[Giggles]

There you go, my ten minutes didn't matter a jot after all. I feel justified.


1000263033782972416

[Shindig]

Expected it to be closer than that. Kinda pleased it was more cut and dried.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIgSTjzrmRg

[Lewis]

There's no mandate destructive so-called 'Hard Abortions'. The limit should be set at four weeks.

[Giggles]

The next thing that needs to happen is the right for men to have a 'financial abortion' of a child in the interests of equality. Even have an opt out period in the same timeframe a woman can decide not to have the child at all. Not that it will though.

[Kikó]

What does that mean? If you don't want to pay for your child's life you don't need to?

[Lewis]

They call that 'paper abortion' and you're right.

[Giggles]

What does that mean? If you don't want to pay for your child's life you don't need to?

Yeah if a woman can decide to get rid with the father having no say, then a man should be able to cut all responsibilities to the child with no say from the mother. The decision should have to be made in the same time frame before birth though, and should be irreversible.

[Disco]

What does that mean? If you don't want to pay for your child's life you don't need to?

I assume if you don't want to have a child but your partner decides to keep it you aren't liable?

[Kikó]

Would you want to actually walk away from your child? Even if you didn't want the pregnancy, you did provide half of the output on the day and surely would feel some responsibility. On a human level.

[Giggles]

Would you want to actually walk away from your child? Even if you didn't want the pregnancy, you did provide half of the output on the day and surely would feel some responsibility. On a human level.

Exactly half the output but currently one party has all the say in the matter. If a man's responsibility can be questioned without questioning the responsibility of a woman who can decide to terminate it completely, then we really are on a bad road.
You ask why would you want to walk away but you don't ask why you would want to get rid altogether?

[Spikey M]

Would you want to actually walk away from your child? Even if you didn't want the pregnancy, you did provide half of the output on the day and surely would feel some responsibility. On a human level.

You can apply that exact same argument to the abortion. If you don’t want a kid, you don’t want a kid.

[Kikó]

I get that but once you know it's there, would you not want anything to do with your child?

[Giggles]

I get that but once you know it's there, would you not want anything to do with your child?

No different from knowing there's going to be a child and deciding to kill it off early.

The main thing though is that the kid is made between two parties but currently one is making all the decisions for both. Men should be afforded the same choice the woman has.

[Spikey M]

I get that but once you know it's there, would you not want anything to do with your child?

It doesn’t really matter does it? I support a woman’s right to say ‘fuck, I didn’t want to get pregnant’ and take steps to sort it. A man isn’t afforded the same right. Why not? Whether many would actually do it is kind of irrelevant.

[Baz]

Could men vote in that referendum? :cab:

[Yevrah]

There's no mandate destructive so-called 'Hard Abortions'. The limit should be set at four weeks.

The morning after pill would probably be enough at that point, so are you basically saying you don't agree with abortion?

[Yevrah]

And that isn't to have a go, it's such a fine line one that I could easily see the first world having reached the opposite conclusion of where most of it has actually ended up.

[Giggles]

Could men vote in that referendum? :cab:

Of course they could. Not sure what your point is though.

[Lewis]

It was a [shit] joke about referendum results.

[Yevrah]

Of course they could. Not sure what your point is though.

That it's a woman's choice so men shouldn't have a say, not being able to get pregnant and all.

As you were Lewis.

[Giggles]

That it's a woman's choice so men shouldn't have a say, not being able to get pregnant and all.

As you were Lewis.

That's a massive load of bollocks though.

[Yevrah]

That's a massive load of bollocks though.

Yeah, it probably is.

It's an interesting one, and I'm not entirely sure where I sit. A while ago it would definitely have been, "entirely the woman's choice, no time limit, etc." but now I'm not so sure.

[Kikó]

It doesn’t really matter does it? I support a woman’s right to say ‘fuck, I didn’t want to get pregnant’ and take steps to sort it. A man isn’t afforded the same right. Why not? Whether many would actually do it is kind of irrelevant.

I'm pretty much asking *you* the question. What would you do?

[Spikey M]

I'm pretty much asking *you* the question. What would you do?

Nope. But if I was a woman I wouldn’t have an abortion either.

[Baz]

Of course they could. Not sure what your point is though.I don't think men should get to decide what women can and can't do.

[Giggles]

I don't think men should get to decide what women can and can't do.

You can't change the constitution of the country by only polling half of the electorate.

Women get to decide what they want to do with a pregnancy now anyway after the vote (once the legislation is drawn up), but men should now also be allowed to decide for themselves what they do with it too.

[Spikey M]

It does seem a bit odd. I have no issue with it really, it’s a woman’s issue really, but If they were voting to bring back military service would they only allow people under 16 to vote?

[SincereTheRebel]

Its a tricky situation.

[Pepe]

it’s a woman’s issue really

Abortion is tricky business, and I avoid discussing the issue at all costs, unless speaking to someone who I know has a basic grasp of reason/logic. All I'll say here is that making abortion a 'woman's issue' is the biggest flaw of the whole discussion.

[SincereTheRebel]

Lets get to the real question. Anybody in here been every had to go through the topic of discussion? I have, I'm ashamed to say and it burns me every time I think about it.

[Spikey M]

Abortion is tricky business, and I avoid discussing the issue at all costs, unless speaking to someone who I know has a basic grasp of reason/logic. All I'll say here is that making abortion a 'woman's issue' is the biggest flaw of the whole discussion.

How so? I get that men are impacted - how could I not, I have a child and another on the way - but ultimately it is women who’s lives are put at risk with illegal abortions. Or women having to leave the country for treatment. Or women being force to carry a baby they don’t want only to have it immediately removed at birth. Pregnancy is not an easy thing, I dread to think what it’s like when you don’t want to be.

On the whole, it is a woman’s issue. Men deserve some say, sure, but we shouldn’t be able to refuse them the option when the potential impact of such a decision is almost all on them.

[Giggles]

How so? I get that men are impacted - how could I not, I have a child and another on the way - but ultimately it is women who’s lives are put at risk with illegal abortions. Or women having to leave the country for treatment. Or women being force to carry a baby they don’t want only to have it immediately removed at birth. Pregnancy is not an easy thing, I dread to think what it’s like when you don’t want to be.

On the whole, it is a woman’s issue. Men deserve some say, sure, but we shouldn’t be able to refuse them the option when the potential impact of such a decision is almost all on them.

But giving men the choice wouldn't be taking the woman's choice away, nobody is trying to do that. It would just give men their own separate choice.

[Spikey M]

But giving men the choice wouldn't be taking the woman's choice away, nobody is trying to do that. It would just give men their own separate choice.

I agree with you. Men should have the choice to say ‘I’m out’. But if the woman chooses to get rid, as fucking horrible as it would be, that’s the woman’s decision to make.

[Giggles]

I agree with you. Men should have the choice to say ‘I’m out’. But if the woman chooses to get rid, as fucking horrible as it would be, that’s the woman’s decision to make.

Most definitely.

[Kikó]

Lets get to the real question. Anybody in here been every had to go through the topic of discussion? I have, I'm ashamed to say and it burns me every time I think about it.

Share?

[SincereTheRebel]

It was all unplanned. I've made it very clear I don't want any children or want to get married but she ended up pregnant. I still don't know how because at the time, we were still under protection. There was a discussion. I wasn't going to be there for the baby if she went through it. I made up my mind from the moment we found. I was and still am a coward and I'm afraid of the whole family thing.

We were together for a long time after the situation but I refused to talk about it which broke the relationship in the end. She did everything I ever asked her to do, and I refused to do anything any normal male is required to do in a relationship. I've got so much respect for the man that has a family and takes care of his. I'm just really selfish and cant bring me to do the whole family thing.

My views haven't changed since I was 16 and I'm damn near 30 now. All the people that I know have their little families, but they are unhappy. I like to think I've done the right thing as I'm much happier alone but think ’what if’

[Kikó]

Thanks. I think if the child isn't growing into a loving home, then you did the right thing.

If you read freakonomics, the author makes the argument that the thing that saw the largest drop in crime in NY was the change in law twenty years previously which allowed for abortion. It meant that those kids who would have been born into unloving, poor, crime ridden homes were never born and never fell into the life.


Not saying that last bit is about you btw.

[SincereTheRebel]

Its all good.

[Foe]

It was all unplanned. I've made it very clear I don't want any children or want to get married but she ended up pregnant. I still don't know how because at the time, we were still under protection. There was a discussion. I wasn't going to be there for the baby if she went through it. I made up my mind from the moment we found. I was and still am a coward and I'm afraid of the whole family thing.

We were together for a long time after the situation but I refused to talk about it which broke the relationship in the end. She did everything I ever asked her to do, and I refused to do anything any normal male is required to do in a relationship. I've got so much respect for the man that has a family and takes care of his. I'm just really selfish and cant bring me to do the whole family thing.

My views haven't changed since I was 16 and I'm damn near 30 now. All the people that I know have their little families, but they are unhappy. I like to think I've done the right thing as I'm much happier alone but think ’what if’

Not just you chief. I've never been through it but I have no plans on having children for the same reason. You get some joy no doubt, but it's ridden with tiredness, financial woes and a restriction of what you do. It's a sacrifice I don't think I'll ever want to do.

Plus, most women don't want to sleep with me so it's really not that hard to enforce. :cool: / :(

[Magic]

Perverts in your postcode: Heat map reveals areas where Tayside and Fife’s 724 sex offenders live

http://i66.tinypic.com/jkxa45.png

:sherlock:

[Shindig]

Looking to make some friends outside of work?

[Raoul Duke]

Neither of those map points match up... :sherlock:

[Kikó]

I think they're all housed in the Mecca bingo.

[SincereTheRebel]

Not just you chief. I've never been through it but I have no plans on having children for the same reason. You get some joy no doubt, but it's ridden with tiredness, financial woes and a restriction of what you do. It's a sacrifice I don't think I'll ever want to do.

Plus, most women don't want to sleep with me so it's really not that hard to enforce. :cool: / :(

Well said. It took me a long time to figure out but I'm not responsible for a female happiness. Off-topic completely and should probably go into the relationship thread. Let me just slow down as I could go off :lol:

[John Arne]

So, that anti-Kremlin Russian journalist shot and killed last week...… is alive. Apparently the whole thing was a ruse to expose Russian spies.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44307611

[phonics]

So, that anti-Kremlin Russian journalist shot and killed last week...… is alive. Apparently the whole thing was a ruse to expose Russian spies.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44307611

Didn't tell his wife either, probably going to end up keeping the funeral date once she turns on the news.

[Lewis]

That's pretty mega, but won't Russia (and whoever else) just be able to claim a stitch-up now whenever they off somebody?

[Spikey M]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/30/rape-rarely-violent-doesnt-merit-jail-term-claims-germaine-greer/

“Rape is rarely violent and doesn’t merit a jail term, claims Germaine Greer”

I mean... you what mate?

[phonics]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/30/rape-rarely-violent-doesnt-merit-jail-term-claims-germaine-greer/

“Rape is rarely violent and doesn’t merit a jail term, claims Germaine Greer”

I mean... you what mate?

Helps to read the context of what she's talking about


Every time a man rolls over on his exhausted wife and insists on enjoying his conjugal right, he is raping her. It will never end up in a court of law.”

[Spikey M]

And that’s still wrong. If your other half isn’t in the mood you don’t just stick it up her.

I get that not all rape is equal. A partner demanding, and taking sex without consent is probably not as bad as being dragged into the car of a sweaty stranger and being kept there, but to treat the former as more similar to Shop Lifting is bonkers.

[SvN]

The most ridiculous part of that entire diatribe is this:


I was found wandering in the street very confused and rescued, thank God, because the people in the car were a man and a woman. If there had been four men in that car I don’t think you would have heard of me again.

Yeah, the first instinct of any four men upon finding a raped girl would be to have another go and then murder her. Jesus Christ, why does anyone still pay attention to this idiot?

[Yevrah]

Germaine Greer fascinates me.

She's clearly got a terminal case of "I'm old and I'll say what I like", but there's something endearing about her whether I agree or not.

[Pepe]

There is obviously plenty of 'old person saying daft stuff,' but I do think her point has some merit and nuance to it.

[Magic]

The most ridiculous part of that entire diatribe is this:



Yeah, the first instinct of any four men upon finding a raped girl would be to have another go and then murder her. Jesus Christ, why does anyone still pay attention to this idiot?

If she'd said 'Muslim' I'd have agreed.

[SvN]

There is obviously plenty of 'old person saying daft stuff,' but I do think her point has some merit and nuance to it.

When you really drill down into it, her actual point - that not every rape is equal - is correct. But she ruins it by filling the remaining 95% of her speech with crap.

[Pepe]

When you really drill down into it, her actual point - that not every rape is equal - is correct. But she ruins it by filling the remaining 95% of her speech with crap.

There are two things there: One, that the definition of what constitutes rape has become more and more inclusive. At the same time, the view of just how bad rape (all rape!) is has moved further towards the 'worst possible thing that could ever happen' edge. Then there is the current trend of treating rape victims (and lets remember, most rape talk nowadays centers around campus and Hollywood) as 'survivors' who are too weak to even talk to the police and should be sheltered from the whole world, lest they get triggered and feel raped over and over. Traditional feminism was all about empowering women, and the current trend does the exact opposite, telling women they are too weak to deal with this shit and as such they need to be protected by the institutions they are part of. Meanwhile, actual vulnerable groups and their issues go on ignored. I'm sure you can see how an old feminist might think that is fucked up.

[Spikey M]

I’m sure she does, and there is some merit to that, but jumping from there to ‘a few hours community service would fit the crime’ is mental.

[Pepe]

If the crime is drunken sex, then that's more or less what happens already when universities and not the police deal with rape. Also, I am not sure what the tone was, but it seems a bit bantery to me.

[Spikey M]

‘Drunk sex’ has no place on the rape spectrum.

Assuming we’re talking about 2 drunk people fucking then one of the parties regretting it.

The tone I get from it is ‘what happened to me was rape, anything else is fuck all’.

[Pepe]

‘Drunk sex’ has no place on the rape spectrum.

Assuming we’re talking about 2 drunk people fucking then one of the parties regretting it.

The tone I get from it is ‘what happened to me was rape, anything else is fuck all’.

I agree. Yet:

http://www.studlife.com/forum/2018/04/26/op-ed-three-weeks-later/

[Dquincy]

I think in Spike's post, both people are awake. If you shag a person who is unconscious then that's beyond the pale. Unlike what Pornhub portrays.

[Spikey M]

Yeah, that’s not what I’m talking about. That’s date rape.

[Pepe]

Have fun with this one:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/title-ix-is-too-easy-to-abuse/561650/

[Spikey M]

Yep, that’s what I was talking about. Mental. Regretting a drunken fumble with a creature of the night is one of life’s simple pleasures.

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-44337277?__twitter_impression=true

If I was going to write a parody News Story about Mahow, this would be it.

[Baz]

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/beauty-hair/advice/a35197/drinking-water-skin-benefits/

3 litres of water a day can make your face “better,” apparently. And, going by the pics, give you weird nostrils. Surely she looks less wrinkly cos she’s smiling in the second pic but grinning in the first? Either way I’m gonna try and drink 3 litres everyday for five days.

[Pepe]

https://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/food/blog/21007220/busboys-and-poets-plays-the-race-cardand-it-backfires


Sometimes you can have the best of intentions and still miss the mark completely. Such is the case with Busboys and Poets' "Race Card" initiative, which aims to foster discussions about race and privilege among its diners by handing out literal "Race Cards"—cards featuring larger questions about the state of race relations in America—to patrons as they enter.

:lol:

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44421642

Meat found in Vegetarian and Vegan meals.

Lads, Twitter, now.

[Pepe]

:harold:

[Pepe]

If you buy 'vegan meatballs,' you had it coming.

[Magic]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/vile-sex-beast-who-raped-12754589

Lol.

A bit like Ian Watkins having ifuckkids as his password.

[Giggles]

13 weeks for the marathon thing? The fuck?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/21/man-jailed-someone-elses-london-marathon-number-stanislaw-skupian

[Pepe]

Fucking wankers.

[Giggles]

Fucking wankers.

There's cunts walk straight out giving the cops two fingers that do far far worse.

[Pepe]

The more appropriate response to the 'crime' would be to lol it off. Or to invite him to run the next marathon for free. Prison time? What a fucking joke.

[Spikey M]

Snowflakes. Hang the cunt.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What a joke.

[Baz]

I don’t understand what he did wrong.

[Yevrah]

“The offences are so serious as only a prison sentence will suffice,” magistrate Michael O’Gorman said

:sorry:

[phonics]

Good money on police being low on their arrest quota and the court system refusing to take a hit to their prosecution stats. Disgusting.

[John Arne]

Given the ridiculous sentence, hopefully, this is just the judge giving him a place to stay for 13 weeks.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If you read it, he seems to have done a fair amount more than just nick a marathon number to earn his 16 weeks.

[Giggles]

If you read it, he seems to have done a fair amount more than just nick a marathon number to earn his 16 weeks.

3 weeks for that and 13 for the marathon number it says.

[mugbull]

Ok I know nobody likes the people who brag about how they can handle extreme temperatures, but after reading this article about the “hottest London marathon on record” that apparently had people dropping like flies i had a look at the numbers. 24 degrees? Are you fucking kidding me?

[Jimmy Floyd]

3 weeks for that and 13 for the marathon number it says.

13 for 'fraud' which seems to involve a few offences. Either that or he has history. You just wouldn't get 13 weeks for that.

[Spikey M]

Ok I know nobody likes the people who brag about how they can handle extreme temperatures, but after reading this article about the “hottest London marathon on record” that apparently had people dropping like flies i had a look at the numbers. 24 degrees? Are you fucking kidding me?

Bare in mind a lot of people don’t start training until they get their place in October. They then run in cool/cold temperatures all winter and are not really/just about ready for it. It’ll be those ones passing out, not the regular runners.

[randomlegend]

Ok I know nobody likes the people who brag about how they can handle extreme temperatures, but after reading this article about the “hottest London marathon on record” that apparently had people dropping like flies i had a look at the numbers. 24 degrees? Are you fucking kidding me?

Depends what you're accustomed to doesn't it. It's only 24 for a few weeks or even days of the year here.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/senegal-world-cup-2018-squad-12766201

Also just seen this. What was he thinking? :D

[Spikey M]

Depends what you're accustomed to doesn't it. It's only 24 for a few weeks or even days of the year here.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/senegal-world-cup-2018-squad-12766201

Also just seen this. What was he thinking? :D

:cab: Where the fuck do you live?

[randomlegend]

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/uk/norwich/climate

Near Norwich. Your reaction made me think maybe I was way out, but I don't think I am looking at that.

[Baz]

It’s meant to be scorchio next week. And by scorchio I mean over 20 degrees for at least six hours everyday.

English weather. :sick:

[mugbull]

Depends what you're accustomed to doesn't it. It's only 24 for a few weeks or even days of the year here.


Yeah, but there are some objective truths along the way. If you had lived your entire life in Antarctica then 5 degrees would be fucking boiling, but it just objectively isn’t.

[mugbull]

I’m just surprised that people who have the intense willpower to train for a marathon are actively put off by 24 degree weather

[Spikey M]

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/uk/norwich/climate

Near Norwich. Your reaction made me think maybe I was way out, but I don't think I am looking at that.

That’s averages. We get above 24c regularly in the summer months. It’s not only for a few days or weeks a year.

Edit: I mean, Madrid barely gets above 24c if you do it by averages, which is clearly absurd.

https://www.holiday-weather.com/madrid/averages/

[Pepe]

37 degrees every day next week over here. :moop:

[randomlegend]

That’s averages. We get above 24c regularly in the summer months. It’s not only for a few days or weeks a year.

Edit: I mean, Madrid barely gets above 24c if you do it by averages, which is clearly absurd.

https://www.holiday-weather.com/madrid/averages/

I know it's averages, but if the average is (at most) 21 in the hottest years then it can't be 24+ for many weeks at all.

[Lewis]

Norwich always seemed a lot hotter than it probably was because it never gets any wind ever, so the heat and humidity just hangs around in the air making all of your foreign housemates stink.

[Spikey M]

I know it's averages, but if the average is (at most) 21 in the hottest years then it can't be 24+ for many weeks at all.

Not really, it’s night time temperatures that have the numbers that low.

[mugbull]

Average high temperature for London in July is 23.5

[randomlegend]

Not really, it’s night time temperatures that have the numbers that low.

My bad.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The marathon is always in April though so a scorcher (23+) is rare.

[mugbull]

I bet i could run a marathon in 40 degreees in 2 hours flat

[John Arne]

I play football every week in 33 degree's. Me > London marathon runners.

[Spikey M]

I bet i could run a marathon in 40 degreees in 2 hours flat

You’d have to be an absolute masochist to do this (https://marathondessables.co.uk).

[niko_cee]

I know a seasoned runner who did the marathon (and has done it and others before) and they said it was very tough due to the heat.

Also, having been an inhabitant of London and other hot places, when it gets 'hot' in London it feels like a billion degrees for some reason, even when it's only mid-20s. No wind, all the concrete, I don't know why but it does.

[Shindig]

It's a dense city with high pollution. You're running in a greenhouse.

[Pepe]

You lot just need to harden the fuck up.