The NFL Thread

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I wouldn't say it's not a big factor, it's less of a factor than other sports but it's still there.

At the end of the day only the Patriots, Ravens, Seahawks, the Saints and the Bucs have won the Superbowl since 2000 for the first time in team history.

Saints and the Buc have yet to be back and only the Ravens and Pats have won it again.

I'm not saying that I don't think that the Jags could make the Superbowl but there is a reason why the bookies have the Ravens at a shorter price and why you'd imagine they're more likely to make it this year than the Jags.

[Magic]

Lol gay soccer lol mahow cunt

[wullie]

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Lockette's retiring, which is far from surprising after that hit he took.

[Gray Fox]

Gronks on the cover of the new Madden game.

Had to be between him or Watt surely(with Beckham being last year).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Could have been Von.

First time in a good few years that they didn't hold a fan vote though, I guess they really wanted it to be Gronk.

[Pleb]

The Madden curse on Gronk :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The curse is dead.

Megatron broke it with Sherman and Beckham also not being afflicted with it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

730797049491431424

Archived games :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Keenan Reynolds has been given permission to play this year by the Navy.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000662485/article/navy-secretary-keenan-reynolds-can-play-in-nfl-in-16

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Not the greatest day for the Bills.

Their first round pick, Shaq Lawson is out indefinitely (they expect him to be out for around the first half of the season) after having shoulder surgery and Sammy Watkins has broken a bone in his foot but should be fine for week 1 unless he has a setback.

And the Ravens have signed Jerraud Powers who is probably going to start, possibly as the nickel corner which is good. We needed better options at corner.

[Ian]

With Sports Authority going bust there's a lot of stuff in the Post at the moment about what's going to happen to the Mile High naming rights, with Sports Authority wanting to sell them to the highest bidder. Seemingly they're not allowed to just do without written consent and yet it looks like it could end up in a situation where a court just says "Nah, that's fine."

I'd rather they just didn't sell them at all but I suppose that's unlikely.

[Dan]

Jalen Ramsey's torn his meniscus. (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000663805/article/jalen-ramsey-suffers-small-meniscus-tear-in-right-knee)

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000665832/article/walter-thurmond-28-retiring-after-six-nfl-seasons

Walter Thurmond has decided to retire at 28.

I'm not really sure why, he was getting offers of around $4m a season to play after he had his first ever good season having been converted to safety by the Eagles.

[Gray Fox]

28 does seem far too young to retire without it being for injuries. Last season being the first time he played a full 16 games too.

In other news Ryan Fitzpatrick is being backed into a corner quite fast. The Jets offer on the table is for $36m over 3 years with $24m guaranteed. It has $12m in the first year, so they are trying to cover off having to cut him/pay him for his last 2 years.

Fitz has rejected that and countered with a one year, $12m fully guaranteed deal. The problem with this is that the Jets can't accept without cutting someone, but Fitz has nothing to push them into it. No one else is interested in him and they are in no rush to pick him up.

[Ian]

I think we're going to see more of that sort of retirement going forward. From guys who aren't necessarily threatening to win a ring but have made enough money to set themselves up for life, anyway.

[Foe]

I think we're going to see more of that sort of retirement going forward. From guys who aren't necessarily threatening to win a ring but have made enough money to set themselves up for life, anyway.

It seems a bit bonkers when you think about it but I suppose what's the difference between having 5 and 15 million in your bank account?

The Fitzpatrick think is a bit odd. He must still fancy himself to play for a good 2 or 3 more years. Otherwise why not take the longer contract and then just let the jets cut him and take his guaranteed money (or sit in a backup role like Matt Moore and be comfortable knowing he's getting paid without damaging his health).

Ballsy move for someone who could easily flame out.

[Browning]

Is it just me who can't get my head around that?

24m possibly riding to 36m over 3 years implies that the 24m is guaranteed. Given the 24 is made up of 12 + 6 + 6 he had been offered 12m guaranteed for this year. How can they afford that but can't afford the 12m one year deal?

[Foe]

Is it just me who can't get my head around that?

24m possibly riding to 36m over 3 years implies that the 24m is guaranteed. Given the 24 is made up of 12 + 6 + 6 he had been offered 12m guaranteed for this year. How can they afford that but can't afford the 12m one year deal?

They can Defer money out to the back end of the deal. So it's probably not an issue this year but a fucking massive one next year.

[Gray Fox]

I've not seen anything to confirm it yet, but there's strong rumours that Aqib Talib was shot in a club in Dallas last night.

[Browning]

It's true but he has been discharged from hospital.

[Gray Fox]

Shot in the leg. Lucky escape.

[The Bruce]

Was the gun in his own pocket? Amateur if not...

[Foe]

Was the gun in his own pocket? Amateur if not...

Or somebody wanted to piss him off / ruin his career and made a mess of it.

[Gray Fox]

The consensus is that he shot himself accidentally. No official word yet though.

[Gray Fox]

Some contract news about the league as news has been a little slow lately.

The Broncos talks with Von Miller have stalled days after saying 'real progress' had been made.
Malcolm Butler is on hold out from Patriots practice over wanting a new deal. He earned $500k last year which was a pro bowl year, but stands to make 'only' $600k this year.
Gio Bernard has signed an extension with the Bengals, 3 years and $15.5m.
The Panthers are planning to tie up a lot of their team. They've got Norman off the cap and are looking to front load all of their extensions so that they pay a lot less after this season.

Lastly is Andrew Luck. This season is his 5th year option which will bag him $16m. If they can't do a deal there than franchise tagging him would see him earn $25m in 2017 and then if they tagged him again, he'd earn $35m in 2018. The talk is that there are 2 types of deal being explored. One is a 10 year contract, so he will essentially spend all of his career with the Colts. The other, more realistic one, suggests a 5-6 year deal that would make him the highest paid player in the league, possibly of all time. The current top earner is Joe Flacco who is on about $23m per year, so he's about to get paid.

[Ian]

Sooner or later Denver will just give Miller the money if they can't get him to budge at all.

I've no concerns about it getting done.

[Browning]

He turned down a deal that would have made him the highest paid non QB. What on earth does he want?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

More.

[Gray Fox]

$115m turned down. :serious:

[Ian]

MMQB say, via Schefter I think, that the current stall is no longer over the total size of the contract but the guaranteed money.

[Gray Fox]

The people of San Diego have delivered a 110,786 strong signature petition to the City of San Diego. They got that number in 6 weeks.

It gets submitted to a test, which if it passes, I believe entitles the people of San Diego to vote on whether or not the Chargers get their stadium money.

http://www.chargers.com/news/2016/06/10/110786-signatures-filed-qualify-chargers-citizens-initiative-ballot

[elth]

Luck's career would probably be better off if he played out his franchise years until the Colts can't afford him, and then goes to a proper team, but he'd be silly to turn down the guaranteed payday given his injury history recently.

[Foe]

Breshard perriman has buckled his PCL 12 months after doing his ACL.

No luck for the kid - 26th pick in the draft last year and struggling to get on the field.

Mahow

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking hell.

Oh and it wasn't an ACL last year, it was his PCL in his right knee.

This one is a tear of his ACL in the left knee.

[Gray Fox]

Speaking of knee injuries. One of the Saints only proper pass rushers Hau'oli Kikaha has torn his ACL. He was only drafted last year but that's his 3rd ACL tear already(2 while at college). Probably done for the season.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It was a bit strange that all the media were touting Perriman to instantly come in the team though.

There's no chance that the coaching staff would put him instantly ahead of Kamar Aiken in the depth chart.

It's less of a blow than last year as Aiken came on strong in his first season as a starter. We've also got Steve Smith coming back, the 2 we drafted this year (including Keenan Reynolds), Campanaro is coming back from an injury and looked great at times last year (that rushing TD against the Steelers was fucking brilliant), Mike Wallace (lol), Chris Matthews who went mental a couple years ago in the Super Bowl and a couple of other promising youngsters.

Last year it was so much bleaker.

[Ian]

Super Bowl rings really are the most hideous things, aren't they?

http://www.denverpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/cj-anderson-ring-e1465844002920.jpg?w=922

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They're so typically American.

The early ones aren't too bad.

http://www.playinthepaint.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Vince-Lumbardis-Ring-From-Super-Bowl-1.jpg

And this one from 5:

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/collegefootballmania/images/3/36/Super_Bowl_5_Ring.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130109174859

[Browning]

Was Aiken really any good? His fantasy performances were abysmal.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Was Aiken really any good? His fantasy performances were abysmal.

He was the 30th best in terms of Fantasy points scored last year at WR, abysmal is a bit far.

He started a little slow last year but he was great, 944 yards with 5 TD's is a good return. Especially as he didn't feature that much in the first few games and he had to catch balls from Mallett, Clausen and Schaub who started 6 of our games last year.

[Browning]

30th? That's shocking. I had him on my roster on and off all year but he never seemed to score much at all.

[Gray Fox]

He was one of the Ravens only passing targets not taped together and still got the ball well. He'll drop off I think now they have 50 odd tight ends and RBs to feed.

[Browning]

Their only serviceable player was Steve Smith until he broke. The rest were all forgettable, fantasy wise.

[Gray Fox]

Fletcher Cox has extended his deal with the Eagles. 6 years $103m with $63 guaranteed. :|

[Browning]

The Lions have signed Andre Roberts and are meeting Boldin. Yea... that'll replace Megatron.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fletcher Cox has extended his deal with the Eagles. 6 years $103m with $63 guaranteed. :|
As good as he is, that seems far too much.

Especially as he's being shifted to DT as Schwartz is moving them to a 4-3.

[Gray Fox]

Perriman has been lucky. After checking on him they've decided it can be treated with Stem Cells and he should be okay for most if not all of 2016.

Run DMC in Dallas hasn't been so. He broke his elbow trying to dive to save his mobile phone and has had to have surgery.

The other news of the day is Joey Bosa. He still hasn't agreed his contract and is now on a hold out. The dispute comes from him wanted all of his contract money, regardless of if he gets cut or moved on or whatever. Essentially if he becomes a free agent and switches teams, he could end up being paid by two teams at once, should he get what he wants.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We're trying to trade Monroe which makes sense.

He was great when we first signed him but he's on the decline and far too injury prone.

Stanley-Alex Lewis/John Urschel/Ducasse-Zuttah-Yanda-Wagner should do fine.

Left guard is a bit of a mess with one option being a rookie (who has impressed in training apparently but that means fuck all) and Ducasse being bounced around a few teams. Favourite right now has to be Urschel who has played a few games along the line.

[Foe]

Perriman has been lucky. After checking on him they've decided it can be treated with Stem Cells and he should be okay for most if not all of 2016.

Run DMC in Dallas hasn't been so. He broke his elbow trying to dive to save his mobile phone and has had to have surgery.

The other news of the day is Joey Bosa. He still hasn't agreed his contract and is now on a hold out. The dispute comes from him wanted all of his contract money, regardless of if he gets cut or moved on or whatever. Essentially if he becomes a free agent and switches teams, he could end up being paid by two teams at once, should he get what he wants.

That's what contracts should be, so don't have an issue with that. He's the number 3 pick on a shit team. Particularly given the new rookie wage scale, I don't really get why more of them don't just turn up and say fuck it, I want it all completely guaranteed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Trade talks with the Giants broke-down so Monroe has been released.

Likely going to the Giants or Seahawks.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000670199/article/report-ravens-trent-richardson-needs-knee-scope

Trent Richardson needs knee surgery.

His chances of making our roster have gone from microscopic to zero.

Justin Forsett, Kenneth Dixon, Javorius Allen and Lorenzo Taliaferro should be our four.

[Gray Fox]

I've just worn that shirt for the first time today and it's warn so I've been sweating in it. It looks like the black dye of the shirt has come through the white numbers.

Kind of disappointing for what's supposed to be a $300 shirt. I'm hoping it comes out in a wash but I doubt it.

We'd tidied the wardrobes up so I'd forgotten about this shirt until I came across it the other day.

I got in touch with the US NFL store about the issue and they credited my account with $10 without seeing the shirt. They said normal practice is exchange or refund but as they all went in the sale(they would being reduced from $300 to $20) they could only offer a refund. It's technically not worth all the hassle as I'd only get the $20 back I think, no shipping costs/tax. So I thought fuck it and bought some spray to put on it which supposedly removes dye that has run and then put it on a wash.

Other than a couple of tiny specks which are hard to spot it almost entirely came out. Basically gave me my shirt back. Still maintain that it's awesome, but I'll be washing it separate to everything else just in case that dye decides to run again.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's been revealed what the mistake in Wade Phillips' ring was:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClGskobUsAUdk3E.jpg:large

I was thinking an extra L in the name...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000671403/article/johnny-manziels-lawyer-expresses-doubt-qb-can-stay-clean

"Heaven help us if one of the conditions is to pee in a bottle," the attorney wrote.

:D

[Browning]

You can vote on NFL.com for the "best game of all time" and the top 3 are going to be put on Youtube. I don't know anywhere near enough about historic games to vote, and I wouldn't want to watch something I've already seen, so I won't bother, but seems pretty good. Hopefully something I've not seen before will make it.

[Foe]

Andrew luck won't be short of a few quid.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000672131/article/andrew-luck-signs-sixyear-140-million-colts-contract

Woof.

[Gray Fox]

It just got slightly harder for the Chargers to build a new stadium. They now need a 2/3rds majority vote rather than a simple 51% in their favour now.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2016/jun/29/stadium-initiative-faces-high-vote-hurdle/

Also just in case any team wanted to take a punt on Manziel, he's banned for 4 games after essentially no showing the players union meetings(they were there to try and fight for him) involving the case.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Rolando McClain suspended for 10 games.

The Cowboys wont have shit.

Oh and Darren Waller who we (fuck you John) drafted the other year has been suspended for 4 games. He was a long shot to make the team especially after we asked him to move to TE but that's pretty much sealed his fate.

[Gray Fox]

we (fuck you John)

:D

[Ian]

Dr. Z week on MMQB has been ace. It's all worth a read, especially if you've not read his stuff before, I'm currently reading his all-time teams.
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/06/24/dr-z-paul-zimmerman-memoirs-alltime-team-offense
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/06/26/dr-z-paul-zimmerman-memoirs-alltime-team-defense-special-teams

[Giggles]

Can't believe Zimmerman had the stroke so long ago. He used to be the one writer I'd look forward to every week. Time absolutely flies.

[Gray Fox]

Brady suspension stands.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000674332/article/tom-bradys-appeals-petition-denied-remains-suspended

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'd let it stand, they'd lose to the Cards even with Brady and then their next few games are winnable even without him.

[Gray Fox]

This afternoon is the deadline for franchise tagged players. If they don't sign by 4pm ET then they either have to sit the year out without pay, or play at the one year tender rate.

Players still not signed:

Kirk Cousins
Von Miller
Alshon Jeffery
Eric Berry
Justin Tucker
Muhamamad Wilkerson
Trumaine Johnson

By the sounds of it only Miller is close to signing. And signing for $114m and $70m guaranteed by 2018 at that.

[bruhnaldo]

I hate this thread because it reminds me my LOLphins still exist :(

[Browning]

Tucker is off next season unless they offer him a deal today.

[Browning]

Tom Brady has also given up and will serve the ban.

[Gray Fox]

He's still not admitting any wrong doing either. Not that I ever thought he would. His ban is basically the entire of September plus 3 days of October and in that time, he is allowed no contact with the team. Might be a little rusty his first game back but that may be wishful thinking.

The Cousins and Jeffery situations are interesting. The Redskins are still to be convinced Cousins is the real deal despite finishing the season on fire and aren't too keen on handing him anything long term until he proves it next season. We'll see how he deals with that pressure.
Jeffery though is a known quantity. His ability says he should be getting a good pay day, but his being likely to be injured by a slight breeze would suggest most of his offer wouldn't be guaranteed. I don't think they'll end up agreeing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

His game back is against the Browns, he'll be fine.

[Gray Fox]

Miller and Broncos have agreed on 6 years $114m. $70m guaranteed.

And yeah, RIP in pieces, Browns.

[Gray Fox]

Ravens and Tucker have come to a 4 year $17m deal with nearly $11m guaranteed.

Chiefs and Berry have failed to agree. The Chiefs wanted Berry to pay for a disability policy that named the club as beneficiary. He said no.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Good deal that, best kicker in the league and we've locked him up for not too much.

[Ian]

No surprise that the Miller deal got done. It'll probably stick in Elway's craw a bit given this is the first big negotiation with the Broncos where he seems to have felt the need to back down but it was the right thing to do so at least he's not a total control freak.

[Browning]

Arian Foster to the Dolphins is happening.

[Giggles]

Just seen the Packers and Bears are doing the colour rush thing in October :sick:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've actually liked the colour rush uniforms.

[Giggles]

All 32 are doing it this year I've just read. If this chart is correct there's some strange colour choices too.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25559279/look-did-every-nfl-color-rush-uniform-just-get-leaked

[Pleb]

Arian Foster to the Dolphins is happening.
That signing might make them a little bit watchable.

[Gray Fox]

Why have a 'colour rush' and put us in fucking silver.

This had better look good.

[Gray Fox]

Le'Veon Bell is looking at a 4 game suspension for missing a few drugs tests. That'll change some drafts up :D

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000676126/article/steelers-leveon-bell-facing-fourgame-suspension?campaign=fb-nf-sf31516011-sf31516011

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000676568/article/josh-gordon-reinstated-will-be-suspended-four-games

Josh Gordon has been reinstated, albeit after he has served an additional 4 games out. He last played in December 2014 and he'll be back on October 9th. I wonder how long until he's caught again.

Also a few players have decided to retire:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000676436/article/phil-loadholt-set-to-announce-his-retirement-from-nfl - Phil Loadholt
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000675893/article/eugene-monroe-announces-his-retirement-from-nfl - Eugene Monroe
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000676456/article/darnell-dockett-retires-after-10-seasons-in-nfl - Darnell Dockett
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000676465/article/greg-jennings-announces-his-nfl-retirement - Greg Jennings

However one retired player is coming back:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000676557/article/retired-rt-anthony-davis-applies-for-reinstatement - Anthony Davis.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000676829/article/baltimore-ravens-add-fourtime-pro-bowl-ot-jake-long

We've signed Jake Long which is a great move, assuming it's for close to the veteran minimum. The geezer has talent when he's not injured.

Also, Randy Gregory is facing another ban:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000676843/article/cowboys-randy-gregory-facing-additional-suspension

He was already set to miss the first four games of the new season for failing a drugs test.

https://media.giphy.com/media/vLruErVSYGx8s/giphy.gif

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000677227/article/ryan-fitzpatrick-jets-strike-oneyear-contract

Fitzpatrick has gotten a contract. One year $12m with a chance to make another $3m.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000677136/article/rams-cut-quarterback-nick-foles-after-release-request

Nick Foles has been cut by the Rams.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Andre Johnson is doing a tour of the AFC South by signing for the Titans:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000677694/article/andre-johnson-will-sign-with-tennessee-titans

Jags next season to complete the set.

Also Jake Long wont be joining us as he declined to sign the injury waiver.

"This is the healthiest and best I've felt in probably about five, six years," Long said. "My knee's back. I've just been working out, feeling good and ready for the opportunity when it comes along."

Clearly he knew he was chatting bollocks or believed it was only a matter of time until it gave out again.

[Browning]

That's my number 1 pick in the draft sorted then. Andre Johnson can't let me down again!

[Gray Fox]

DeAndre Hopkins has gone on official contract holdout. In other words, he wants a new deal and wont take part until he gets one. Some would say he deserves one after being a top 5 WR last season. However Brock Oswieler and Lamar Miller have both signed for good money so the Texans might not really have all that much left to play with. This could all lead to a trade but it wouldn't leave the Texans with all that much to throw to.

[Giggles]

I didn't even think he could get one as a 2013 rookie.

[Gray Fox]

He's contracted to the end of the 2017 season and could potentially be franchise tagged after that if the Texans played hardball. He's due $1m base this coming season and I'd imagine the leap up to what he wants would be something like $13m a season. I think he could end up being disappointed.
Still, he gets fined $40k per day he misses so he'd better make up his mind soon.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000678137/article/chiefs-ot-eric-fisher-signs-6year-63m-deal

Chiefs have given Eric Fisher a 6 year deal worth $63m with $40m guaranteed which is fucking nuts.

He was wank in his rookie season and hasn't been much better in the previous two years. He's now being paid top 8 in terms of average per year and top 5 in total contract value.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Fisher-Inside-1.gif

https://www.profootballfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Fisher-Inside-2.gif

Those were in his rookie season.

PFF graded him as the 36th best tackle last year.

[Browning]

They won't trade him. He'll end up going back.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Apparently RG3 is taking all first team reps in practice for the Browns.

If they actually make him the number one for the season :harold:

[Giggles]

Griffin leading the Browns to the playoffs :cool:

[Browning]

He was never going to sit behind McCown in fairness.

[Pleb]

Are there any preseason games on Sky or are they all on game pass? :moop:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Why would you want to watch a pre-season game? They're awful.

[Gray Fox]

I thought RG3 was essentially confirmed started when they gave up their draft pick in the 1st round.

[Browning]

Why would you want to watch a pre-season game? They're awful.

Was going to say exactly that. Pre-season in every sport is shit but especially in the NFL.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's a shame but it was to be expected. Trent Richardson has been waived.

Was always going to be a struggle for him as we had 4 solid options and then drafted a 5th.

[Browning]

Is there genuinely going to be a RBBC in Baltimore? Surely it's still Forsett and then the others.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well obviously there's a lot of smoke and mirrors, as is the case in the pre-season.

It wont be a committee but I also don't see Forsett carrying the load like some RB's. We will work in the other 2/3 that we keep around, I can see Buck Allen and the rookie Dixon getting a decent number of touches in the season. That's primarily because the coaches don't know who will be the guy after Forsett.

[bruhnaldo]

You guys doing a fantasy league or anything?

[Gray Fox]

There's a separate sign up thread for it, but yeah. We just need to agree on a draft day.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We've lost one of our rookies, Bronson Kaufusi, for the season. Which sucks a lot, it was looking likely that he might have the biggest impact on the team other than Stanley as we needed more pass rushers.

Also, the Chiefs have picked up Nick Foles and the Giants have signed Leon Hall.

Strangest news of the day is the Niners giving NaVarro Bowman and HUGE contract extension.


According to Pro Football Talk, the Bowman deal is an odd one. Not only did it come with three years left on his old deal, but the 49ers gave their linebacker a serious raise. For the four-year extension (2019-22), Bowman will make a total of $44 million, which includes $20 million in guaranteed money.

The 49ers are also giving Bowman a raise on the remaining portion of his old contract. Under the old deal, Bowman would've made roughly $23.55 million over the next three years. Under the new deal, Bowman will pull in $33 million over the next three years, which gives the deal a total of value of $77 million over seven years.

He's 28 and already had 3 years on his contract, struggled in coverage last year (especially in his first few games although he was still great against the run) and he's still pretty fresh off the injury table.

[Giggles]

Went to the domestic final today. Absolutely horrible flag riddled game but last minute TD at least made the end exciting.

[Gray Fox]

I'd love to get involved with the local stuff. It's got a fair following around here, with some people from work in one of the teams. Unfortunately I'm 5 ft 8(9 on a good day) and slow as fuck, so I'm a bad fit for almost every position that isn't on the sideline.

[Ian]

How about holder?

[Giggles]

I'd love to get involved with the local stuff. It's got a fair following around here, with some people from work in one of the teams. Unfortunately I'm 5 ft 8(9 on a good day) and slow as fuck, so I'm a bad fit for almost every position that isn't on the sideline.

I catch any game I can get to in the area (5 teams within half an hour) and have got into a few fundraising bits for one of them but of never think of playing again. You're only asking to miss time in work with injuries.

Today had a decent enough turnout. I'd hazard a guess at around 1500 as they'd only one side open and the stand was half full (Shamrock Rovers seats 6000). A lot of them were other teams players that ran buses to it though.

[Foe]

Tyrod is staying at the Bills and betting on himself to have a big year. On the surface it looks mental, but they're effectively giving him $9.5mill this year and raping themselves if they decide to keep him beyond that.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000684170/article/tyrod-taylor-signs-sixyear-92m-bills-extension

[Giggles]

Picked up tickets for BC v Georgia Tech last night. Both are shit but hopefully it'll be close.

[Ian]

Denver's offensive line issues aren't getting any better. Going to need backs and tight-ends to pull their weight with the bloocking this year, I feel, if Sanchez or Siemian aren't going to get battered.

Sounded like if you can take anything from pre-season games it would be mostly positive for the game against the Bears though, which is nice.

[Gray Fox]

Carson Wentz has cracked some ribs in his first practice game. Bodes well for the future that.

[Foe]

Dorian Green-Beckham has been traded to the Eagles.

And the Bills have a PED cheater as a NT who's going to get banned.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Ravens-Have-No-Timetable-On-Breshad-Perrimans-Return-But-Hes-Running/cf521a8c-c7cd-4ee6-98a2-fa3fb8415dd7

The never ending knee injury continues, still no idea on when Perriman will return.

Shambles.

[Gray Fox]

Dorian Green-Beckham has been traded to the Eagles.

And the Bills have a PED cheater as a NT who's going to get banned.

Guy at work is fuming over this. He's a massive DGB fan. Even drafted him last year and never put him in his lineup once just so others couldn't have him. We're short at WR really so here's his chance to shine. All I know of him is that he's rapid as hell.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Green Beckham isn't that fast. Yeah he's pretty quick but I wouldn't say 'rapid as hell'.

Good big bodied receiver though but he has his problems and you got him for fuck all by trading some shit guard for him.

[Gray Fox]

Worth the punt either way. Not likes he's any worse than what we have now. Matthews and fuck all else :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000689696/article/chargers-issue-statement-on-bosa-contract-negotiations

Could only happen to the Chargers.

[Dan]

Chargers latest offer to Bosa has been rejected. (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000689696/article/chargers-issue-statement-on-joey-bosa-negotiations)

Almost certainly won't start the season playing now, and going by the details San Diego released in their statement it does sound like Bosa's side are being greedy bastards, but then that report is coming directly from the team on the other side of the deal.

EDIT: Mahow :panda:

[Gray Fox]

Not even into the season proper and Romo has broken a bone in his back. Never change, Tony.

[Foe]

Not even into the season proper and Romo has broken a bone in his back. Never change, Tony.

Good thing they've got Dak. The saviour. It would be amazing if he went on to be amazing and wentz/goff face planted.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Good thing they've got Dak. The saviour. It would be amazing if he went on to be amazing and wentz/goff face planted.

His stat line for the pre-season (lol) is amazing thus far. He'll probably be a Kaepernick though in regular season if he actually has to play any games.

[Gray Fox]

Good thing they've got Dak. The saviour. It would be amazing if he went on to be amazing and wentz/goff face planted.

By the sounds of it Wentz/Goff need a fair bit of work to be ready so this wouldn't shock me.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I can't see Goff even starting the season.

From Hard Knocks it seems that they want him to learn from the bench rather than pushing him in at the deep end.

[Gray Fox]

There's no point rushing him in anyway. Unless the Cardinals/Seahawks suddenly shit it up then you have them battling for not bottom. That's not likely to change this or probably next season either so break him in gently.

[Giggles]

Eddie Lacy seems to have found the fridge again.

[Gray Fox]

He's on about cutting his hair to help himself out. How is he compared to last season?

[Giggles]

He's on about cutting his hair to help himself out. How is he compared to last season?

Looks about as good as he did last preseason. Pity he'll be 4 stone heavier by November.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ben Watson out for the season after tearing his achilles. IT'S ALL HAPPENING AGAIN, ffs.

Pitta is also still recovering from his hip injury and a broken finger, Nick Boyle is suspended for 10 games and Maxx Williams has been missing practices for an undisclosed injury.

Rolling with Crockett Gillmore and a former WR who is suspended for the first 4 games :cool:

What a fucking shambles.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Might be going to LA for Christmas (with some time in New York before that), if it happens I'm going to the fucking Coliseum to see the Rams take on the Cardinals on New Years day :drool:

[Dan]

How easy is it to get tickets to an NFL game? Can you actually just show up on the day & get in or do you have to book ahead? I feel like that's a dumb question, but for some reason I've always had it in my head that games are pretty much impossible to get tickets to without booking way in advance.

In roster news, the Colts have picked up Stevan Ridley after he was released by the Lions, who have also traded Jeremy Kerley to the 49ers for offensive lineman Brandon Thomas. Also, Eric Berry has signed his franchise tender with the Chiefs, although he's unlikely to see the field before the start of the season.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Available to buy right now from ticketmaster with the cheapest going for $65 which doesn't seem too bad.

I've also read some articles (admittedly they're a bit old) that say you get the best deals a day or two before the game.

[Gray Fox]

When the kids get older I'd love to go over and watch a game there.

There's a Ravens fan at work who has booked 2 weeks off when they have back to back home games. Steelers and then Browns. Twickenham will have to do for me.

[Giggles]

I'm going to do the Lambeau stadium tour next year, but I know there's no point in wasting my time looking for tickets. I'll never see a game.

[Gray Fox]

We've cut Randle after only signing him a couple of months back. DGB or Huff must be impressing.

[Ian]

Siemian set to be Denver's started for the season.

Question is how long before it's Sanchez anyway because Denver's offensive line gets Siemian killed?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://vine.co/v/5e5X60Ije5m

:cool:

[bruhnaldo]

Getting NFL tickets is easy as fuck. If they're sold out on ticketmaster just go on stubhub.com and get them.

If you guys ever have any problems getting tickets, have questions about things, or really anything with the States in general please feel free to reach out and I'll do my utmost best to help you. :)

[bruhnaldo]

How easy is it to get tickets to an NFL game? Can you actually just show up on the day & get in or do you have to book ahead? I feel like that's a dumb question, but for some reason I've always had it in my head that games are pretty much impossible to get tickets to without booking way in advance.

Nah no way bro. Mind, you may have to pay a little extra than face value the closer to the game, but you'll constantly be able to find tickets somewhere in the stadium.



Available to buy right now from ticketmaster with the cheapest going for $65 which doesn't seem too bad.

I've also read some articles (admittedly they're a bit old) that say you get the best deals a day or two before the game.

$65 isn't bad to get in at all, but be careful. I heard the Coliseum isn't the best with views in some spots.

https://www.barrystickets.com/los-angeles-rams-seating-chart/la-rams-seating-chart.jpg

That entire half of the stadium will be blocked off for the most part and those top upper corners are going to be miles from the field.

http://aviewfrommyseat.com/venue/Los+Angeles+Memorial+Coliseum/

^photos from diff seats

http://losangelesramscoliseum.io-media.com/web/index.html

^3D view where you can plug in your seats and it gives you a virtual idea

The University of Southern California also plays there, so there should be plenty of seat views to judge your seats.

I saw they have some for that game on the 50 yard line on the visitors side for $188 or so as well.

[bruhnaldo]

One thing I'd suggest as well is seatgeek.com

seat geek basically takes all prices from all of the ticket websites and puts them in one spot

Now, I generally will only buy from ticketmaster or stubhub, because they have various insurances behind their seats, but that doesn't mean the other sites are bad.

Just be careful who you spend your money with.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Nah no way bro. Mind, you may have to pay a little extra than face value the closer to the game, but you'll constantly be able to find tickets somewhere in the stadium.




$65 isn't bad to get in at all, but be careful. I heard the Coliseum isn't the best with views in some spots.

The University of Southern California plays there, so there should be plenty of seat views to judge your seats.

I saw they have some for that game on the 50 yard line on the visitors side for $188 or so as well.

I was looking around again last night at the stadium. Home side, near the 50 up in the nosebleeds is $140-odd which is much better than the cheap seats. I probably wouldn't mind spending around $200 though to make sure I'm home side and near the 50.

Edit: Shit, they were visitor side. Blah.

I'd have preferred home side but visitor will do actually, fuck it. I like the Cards too.

[bruhnaldo]

to be honest it's not as if the stadium will be 50/50 split anyhow

it's nice to be on the home side but to be honest being on the visitor side is perfectly fine if you don't really care about "oh look there's (my favorite player) !!!!!

Also being "on the 50" is obviously great but to be completely fair I've enjoyed games from basically all areas of a football stadium.

On seatgeek they're showing seats around the 40-30 on the Rams side for $215 each in Row 6, which isn't bad either.

One thing I will say, being up a bit higher is def. ideal.

Sitting right on row 1 is cool for a little bit because you're right on top of the players basically

But it's hard to see the game if it's not right in front of you in fairness.

When you get closer to making a purchase by all means hit me up and I'll gladly dive in to see what can be found.

[John]

A couple of hundred dollars for a seat is hugely lol. Are all American sports like that, or do NFL sides just need to coin it in to pay their fifty players eleventy billion quid each?

I remember an old episode of Home Improvement where Tim buys season tickets for some sport or another and ends up having to auction off specific games because his wife wants him dead for spending the money. It always struck me as odd, with my little four hundred quid Rangers season ticket, but if they're getting a hundred and fifty quid a game out of people then that episode suddenly makes sense.

[Giggles]

A couple of hundred dollars for a seat is hugely lol. Are all American sports like that, or do NFL sides just need to coin it in to pay their fifty players eleventy billion quid each?

I remember an old episode of Home Improvement where Tim buys season tickets for some sport or another and ends up having to auction off specific games because his wife wants him dead for spending the money. It always struck me as odd, with my little four hundred quid Rangers season ticket, but if they're getting a hundred and fifty quid a game out of people then that episode suddenly makes sense.

I had to pay $120 a ticket to go see the Texas Longhorns college team before and that was seemingly going rate even for that.

[John]

No wonder they all turn up in vans with their own drinks and barbecues. You'd want to make a day of it for as little money as possible after you've been fucked to death for the ticket.

[Giggles]

The tailgating is :drool:

You're right though it is more of a whole day event, in football anyway. There's loads turn up for all that and don't even go to the game.

[bruhnaldo]

Yep that's exactly why tailgating has become half of the exercise in itself.

I spent $250 or so to watch the Dolphins play the Patriots a couple years back.

Spent the same to watchthe University of Miami college team play their archrivals. Just checked the prices for the same game for this season: $170 just to walk in the fucking door.

This, again, is amateur football. Not even NFL.

It's really crazy, to be honest.

[bruhnaldo]

But honestly the tailgating is really so much fun, especially for big games.

Everyone grilling, drinks flowing, people are lighting up blunts in the middle of the parking lot lol, women are losing their inhibitions slowly but surely..

I can't wait for the previously mentioned University of Miami vs. Florida State game this year for this exact reason. Plus, the game itself is a lot of fun especially if it's a big game like that. The atmosphere is crazy.

[Giggles]

But honestly the tailgating is really so much fun, especially for big games.

Everyone grilling, drinks flowing, people are lighting up blunts in the middle of the parking lot lol, women are losing their inhibitions slowly but surely..

I can't wait for the previously mentioned University of Miami vs. Florida State game this year for this exact reason. Plus, the game itself is a lot of fun especially if it's a big game like that. The atmosphere is crazy.

It was one of the best atmospheres I've experienced that day, and that was a shit Longhorns getting stuffed by Baylor. So I can only imagine what a Canes FSU game or an Michigan ND game is like.

[bruhnaldo]

Miami FSU games, especially years the game is in Miami, is an epic shitshow of hilarious proportions.

This was actually in Tallahassee (where FSU is) last year:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w3dlWmnIS0

It's like this every fucking yeaaaaar and even worse when it's in Miami. (South Florida is basically a magnet for scumbags).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

to be honest it's not as if the stadium will be 50/50 split anyhow

it's nice to be on the home side but to be honest being on the visitor side is perfectly fine if you don't really care about "oh look there's (my favorite player) !!!!!

Also being "on the 50" is obviously great but to be completely fair I've enjoyed games from basically all areas of a football stadium.

On seatgeek they're showing seats around the 40-30 on the Rams side for $215 each in Row 6, which isn't bad either.

One thing I will say, being up a bit higher is def. ideal.

Sitting right on row 1 is cool for a little bit because you're right on top of the players basically

But it's hard to see the game if it's not right in front of you in fairness.

When you get closer to making a purchase by all means hit me up and I'll gladly dive in to see what can be found.

Yeah I'm looking at the high seats, I want to actually see things. Lol at them charging a couple of grand for a touchline seat when you won't see shit of the actual game.

[Dan]

Bosa's finally signed.

[Foe]

It's a classic supply and demand surely. The fact that the alma mater of a college is several thousand a year, never mind relatives, locals or 'extras'.

You're better comparing it to an Arsenal or Man United season ticket. They're fucking expensive, but people pay it. There's only 8 home games a year too, so not like you can decide to just go to a cheap game.

Basketball/baseball I imagine is much cheaper because they play mid week too and about a million games a year. Supply and demand...

[Gray Fox]

Bosa's finally signed.

I'm disappointed with this. I wanted to see what would happen with a player refusing to sign for the team who drafted him. Is he allowed to look for another team? I don't remember an example of it happening before.

Closest thing I can think of is Eli Manning.

[Giggles]

I'm disappointed with this. I wanted to see what would happen with a player refusing to sign for the team who drafted him. Is he allowed to look for another team? I don't remember an example of it happening before.

Closest thing I can think of is Eli Manning.

They go back in to the draft next year. Well it used to be that way under the old CBA and I don't think it changed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It hasn't. I saw a report which said that Bosa would re-enter the 2017 draft and the Chargers would get nothing. Whilst it would have been stunningly harsh for the Chargers it would have been very 'lol'.

Also, Donald Trump has told Kap he should find a new country after refusing to stand during the anthem:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000692256/article/trump-on-kap-maybe-he-should-find-another-country

:harold:

[Ian]

"Yeah I think Colin should go back to his o-..... whaddya mean, Milwaukee? Well shoot, the point still stands, just look at him."

If he's annoyed Donald Trump then maybe I don't hate him so much after all.

[John]

A thirty second Google has thrown up a stonking quote from the coach of the 'Baltimore Ravens'.


"Voltaire so eloquently stated, 'I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend it until death your right to say it,'" John Harbaugh said, per ESPN. "That's a principle that our country is founded on. I don't think you cannot deny someone the right to speak out or mock or make fun or belittle anybody else's opinion."

Top, top stuff.

[mikem]

A couple of hundred dollars for a seat is hugely lol. Are all American sports like that, or do NFL sides just need to coin it in to pay their fifty players eleventy billion quid each?

I remember an old episode of Home Improvement where Tim buys season tickets for some sport or another and ends up having to auction off specific games because his wife wants him dead for spending the money. It always struck me as odd, with my little four hundred quid Rangers season ticket, but if they're getting a hundred and fifty quid a game out of people then that episode suddenly makes sense.

That is pretty much the secondary market but that the secondary market dominated US ticket sales is a huge issue.

[Dan]

Teddy Bridgewater's picked up a non-contact injury in his left knee, and it sounds like it could be pretty serious. (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000692565/article/teddy-bridgewater-suffers-apparent-injury-at-practice)

Got taken away in an ambulance & players were praying around him, apparently.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I can see them doing something stupid like trading for the Sanchez now.

They'd be heroes if they called up Interceptaurus Rex though.

[Ian]

Sanchez is going fucking nowhere. If anything we need more quarterbacks to endure all the fucking sacks they're going to be taking. I reckon we should sign Jared Lorenzen and put him in for a third of all passing downs just to soak up the punishment and score the odd bulldozing touchdown.

A shame for Bridgewater though. As meaningless as camp and pre-season is he was looking in decent shape by all account.

[Giggles]

Real bonus for the division though. Minnesota were pretty much set to win the North before he got hurt.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sanchez is going fucking nowhere. If anything we need more quarterbacks to endure all the fucking sacks they're going to be taking. I reckon we should sign Jared Lorenzen and put him in for a third of all passing downs just to soak up the punishment and score the odd bulldozing touchdown.

A shame for Bridgewater though. As meaningless as camp and pre-season is he was looking in decent shape by all account.

The Broncos are trying to sell Sanchez to the Cowboys.

[Dan]

It's potentially a season ender, according to Zimmer.

[Giggles]

It's potentially a season ender, according to Zimmer.

:drool:

[Dan]

Tebow hasn't been picked up by an MLB team yet, has he?

[Ian]

The Broncos are trying to sell Sanchez to the Cowboys.

I'd missed this entirely. And I genuinely think it's a terrible idea. I have no faith in our line.

[Limoutsonik]

Can someone legit tell me why Tebow is no longer an NFL player?Granted i've seen only Youtube footage on the guy,but he seemed with the Broncos at least,a very decent mobile QB.Why did it go downhill so quickly and secondly why are teams that are actively searching for a QB not taking a punt on him?Surely guys like Glennon,EJ Manuel are not better than him.

[Browning]

Rotoworld saying he's out for this year and possibly won't be ready for next year. Fuck...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Can someone legit tell me why Tebow is no longer an NFL player?Granted i've seen only Youtube footage on the guy,but he seemed with the Broncos at least,a very decent mobile QB.Why did it go downhill so quickly and secondly why are teams that are actively searching for a QB not taking a punt on him?Surely guys like Glennon,EJ Manuel are not better than him.

Because the league have realised that mobile quarterbacks have to, somewhat shockingly, actually know how to pass.

Defences are getting better at dealing with mobile quarterbacks because they've stopped thinking 'oh but he's probably going to pass this time'. They're actively getting better at making sure that mobile quarterbacks have to stay in the pocket which is where they're complete bullshit.

See also RG3 (the Browns are mongs for taking a punt on him) and Kaepernick.

Cam Newton and Russell Wilson on the other hand happen to be great at actually passing the ball and running with it.

[Limoutsonik]

I see your point.Wasn't he famous also for his long throws as well?Or am i mistaken?And lastly,do you think he could cut it now with the state that the game has been elevated?

[Browning]

He was famous for one long throw.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I see your point.Wasn't he famous also for his long throws as well?Or am i mistaken?And lastly,do you think he could cut it now with the state that the game has been elevated?

He's got decent arm strength but again, his accuracy is a fucking mess. Most of his biggest passing plays were shorter throws which receivers like Demaryius Thomas made more out of:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAxM-z0CSgI

An 80 yard TD but Tebow passed it about 25 yards or so, Thomas did the rest.

He'd be an absolute disaster if he had to play now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He had a workout for the MLB yesterday and scouts graded him below average for arm strength for throws like this:

770689198546227200

It shouldn't be bouncing from there.

[Gray Fox]

I love how even years on, when a teams #1 QB goes down, we turn to Tebow :D

[Gray Fox]

So Teddy suffered a torn ACL, dislocated knee and has structural damage to the area. He's done for the season but expected to make a full recovery.

What the hell did he do to manage that?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Unfortunately but predictably, Keenan Reynolds has been cut :(

Prime candidate for the practice squad if he doesn't get picked up by anyone.

Also, Goff will start the season as the third quarterback.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and Perriman actually lives.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/baltimore-ravens/0ap3000000694650/Breshad-Perriman-makes-first-two-NFL-catches

Finally.

[Ian]

If he's back then who are the Baltimore Gooners going to lose to injury in his stead? They didn't get Wilshere on loan did they?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well we already have 7 on IR.

[Giggles]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37265886

Just because I hadn't seen the hair til now.

[Gray Fox]

He should mention THE CONSTITUTION. Apparently nothing that's happened over there matters once you mention it.

[Giggles]

Thankfully I didn't go to Boston College v Georgia Tech today. Absolutely horendoua game.

[Giggles]

Sam Bradford replaces Bridgewater for a 1st and 4th rounder.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000694979/article/vikings-trade-for-eagles-qb-sam-bradford

[Gray Fox]

What the fuck...

[Foe]

Jesus.

The Vikings must feel that they have the (rest of the) team to take them all way this year.

[Gray Fox]

I kind of feel we're waving the white flag before the season has even started.

[Dan]

So we're all going to be battling to take Bradford and/or Daniel in the first round tonight now then, yeah?

[Gray Fox]

I'm expecting Bradford to go first pick now to be fair. Cam Newton ain't got shit on him.

[Dan]

I've just seen that the Vikings cut Moritz Boehringer :(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've just seen that the Vikings cut Moritz Boehringer :(

Just about to post this :(

Hopefully he gets a spot on another team.

[Gray Fox]

We're short of receivers. Couldn't hurt to give him a shot.

[Dan]

Don't send him to Baltimore, he'll only get injured. He could be DGB's German relative at Philly, so I guess that's a option.

He could do worse than Chicago, who have one reciever who takes 30% of the targets but is pretty likely to get hurt at some point, one who appears to be a work in progress and then presumably some other guys exist, but they could all just be myths for all anyone knows.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He won't go to Baltimore, we're stacked at WR. Even dropped a guy who was making plays like crazy in the preseason. Jeremy Butler, I'm pissed he got cut.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck knows what's happening in Baltimore. We were expected to keep one of Michael Campanaro or Jeremy Butler but both have been cut. Then when that news hit it seemed that either Terrance Brooks (a good safety who was been at the team for a couple of years) or Victor Ochi (undrafted rookie linebacker who played really well in preseason) would take a spot. Both of them have just been cut.

We are going to sign Devin Hester though but there was room for him without cutting all four of those.

Edit: Hell, some were even predicting both Campanaro and Butler to make the final 53 after Ben Watson got injured.

[Giggles]

Not sure what Thompson is at with that one.

http://yhoo.it/2ciAkdh

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Maybe the Ravens have seen that and are creating space for him.

Well I hope so at least.

[Dan]

That seems pretty mad considering the state of their line last year. You'd think somebody would be more than happy to offer them something for him, if only to make sure they don't miss out on him if he gets dropped.

[Giggles]

Losing anyone off that shambles of a line means Rodgers will probably be in a body bag by week 4.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Stanley - Sitton - Zuttah - Yanda - Wagner.

Pull the trigger Ozzie :drool:

[Dan]

You'll probably end up having to use him as a tight end in three weeks time.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Justin Forsett has been cut :uhoh:

Ozzie must be on the fucking whiskey.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So Terrence West starting with Buck Allen (who was being projected to be cut) as backup until Lorenzo Taliaferro and Kenneth Dixon are back from injuries.

[The Bruce]

The Sanchize :(

Lol at that Bradford trade btw, fucking mental.

[The Bruce]

He's only signed for the Cowboys :lol:

[Gray Fox]

So apparently we've been trying to shop Bradford out since we saw Wentz debut. Our asking price was high and putting people off, but Teddys knee exploding pushed the Vikings into it as they think they've got a shot in the play-offs. The only problem for them is Bradford hasn't posted a winning season since 2008.
We've got our 1st round pick back and that 4th rounder could move up to a 3 or even a 2 depending how the Vikings do this season.

The problem is now Chase Daniel thought he was the backup to Bradford, but has been told Wentz is almost straight in the team when fit again. He's not a happy chappy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

A Football Life are finally going to cover Jim Brown :drool:

[elth]

Apparently there's a reasonable chance the Ravens will just re-sign Forsett to a lower contract.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He will be back.

We only have 2 fit RB's for the first 2, possibly 3 games.

Hester is also joining today.

I imagine that we'll move Elam to IR and cut one of the backup CB's to make room.

[Foe]

He will be back.

We only have 2 fit RB's for the first 2, possibly 3 games.

Hester is also joining today.

I imagine that we'll move Elam to IR and cut one of the backup CB's to make room.

Tough part of the business really. Forsett turned down more money to stay with the Ravens a year or so ago, and now he's having to take a pay cut to stay.

Still think it's BS that player contracts aren't guaranteed.

[Gray Fox]

Money is usually guaranteed once a certain date is hit, then bonuses on top etc.

Does back teams/players up into a corner sometimes though.

[Foe]

Money is usually guaranteed once a certain date is hit, then bonuses on top etc.

Does back teams/players up into a corner sometimes though.

Within a particular season of a contract perhaps. What I mean is if you sign a 3 year $10million contract, you should be getting $10million. What it really means is contracts are completely irrelevant if they're not 'guaranteed'.

Feel like the players union missed a trick within the whole CBA thing. The Bosa stuff this year also highlighted the flaws in the CBA. If 'star' rookies are feeling ripped off then somethings gone a bit wrong. It really shouldn't be difficult for the NFL to standardise it either.

[Giggles]

Before I order Sky, are they actually showing the NFL on Sundays this year? They've nothing on their listings bar the small hours games on Thursday and Monday and Redzone for Sunday. Bit of a shitter of nobody is showing Sunday.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They are.

Next Sunday will be Packers/Jaguars and then Giants/Cowboys

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So two of the guys who shouldn't have been cut (Ochi and Butler) got pissed that the Ravens wanted them for their practice squad and have gone and signed for the Jets and Buccaneers practice squads.

I would be shocked if a team doesn't put him on their active roster before this month is up.

He should have made the team last year but they put him on the practice squad and it's more stunning that he was cut that Forsett this year. Played well in games last year due to injuries and was making plays for fun in the pre-season.

[Pleb]

I believe Sky are showing TNF, SNF and MNF as normal.

Not sure about the London games though.

[Gray Fox]

The London games are usually on the BBC anyway.

[Giggles]

The BBC have them again this year.

Where did you see the Sky line up for this Sunday evening Mahow? I couldn't find anything bar Red Zone on their website.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfluk.com/tv-and-radio/tv-schedule.html

[Giggles]

http://www.nfluk.com/tv-and-radio/tv-schedule.html

:thbup:

Fingers crossed they do the week 1 Pick TV thing again.

[Pleb]

Red Zone in HD for 4 weeks on SSMIX from Sunday.

[Gray Fox]

So we've named Wentz as week 1 starter. I would not have predicted any of this when we drafted him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Forsett has re-signed for us.

Be interesting to see what happens. It looks like the coaching staff see the number 1 as rooms Kenneth Dixon and Forsett would have stayed away had he been fit. RBBC with West until Dixon is back.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So apparently Bruce Miller went to a hotel on Sunday night and was told it was fully booked. He returned on Monday morning, knocked on a room's door at the hotel. A 29 year old male answered, told him he had the wrong room and Miller decided to fight with him.

The guy was staying with his 70 year old father and he tried to help his son so Miller punched him in the face and broke some bones. He was arrested after running to a hotel across the street where this video of him bloodied was captured:

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49ers have since cut him and Miller is being charged for 'battery and assault with a deadly weapon, which was not a firearm. Miller also faces charges of aggravated assault, elder abuse, threats and battery'

:cab:

Mental.

[Foe]

So the Saints have cut QB Garrett Grayson (last years 3rd rounder).

That leaves them with Brees and Luke McCown. They must have had zero faith in him going forward as a potential successor.

[Gray Fox]

Lord Brees-us has signed a new 5 year contract(he's 37) that can void to 2 years. $44m fully guaranteed over the next 2 seasons. It also has a no trade clause so he'll be retiring in New Orleans.

This also saves the Saints a shit load of money, while avoiding having to tag him going into next season. That would have cost them $43m in cap space alone.

[Foe]

Lord Brees-us has signed a new 5 year contract(he's 37) that can void to 2 years. $44m fully guaranteed over the next 2 seasons. It also has a no trade clause so he'll be retiring in New Orleans.

This also saves the Saints a shit load of money, while avoiding having to tag him going into next season. That would have cost them $43m in cap space alone.

Guess that explains the Grayson exit then. "Win now" and pick up a high draft pick when brees goes to shit.

shame they traded away Jimmy graham. Bonkers trade.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Guess that explains the Grayson exit then. "Win now" and pick up a high draft pick when brees goes to shit.

shame they traded away Jimmy graham. Bonkers trade.

Not really.

He's a locker room dick apparently, they needed interior help on their line and Graham wanted to be paid like a top WR. They also thought he wasn't very tough. Plus thought that Brees could throw to anyone.

[Ian]

Sounds like Denver's plan this year is to squeeze every penny they've paid for out of CJ Anderson, get Booker taking some of that load and basically trying to run a tedious ground-and-pound offense to protect Siemian and let the defense do the rest.

If the D follows up on last year and we have an eye-bleedingly hideous offense doing it's fair share I'll be loving life.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000696450/article/justin-forsett-ill-be-ravens-starting-rb-vs-bills


The NFL's new injured reserve rule allows teams to designate one player for return as long as that player remained on the roster for one day after final cuts. Baltimore's brass wanted the option to designate either defensive tackle Carl Davis or safety Matt Elam for a midseason return.

The Ravens essentially convinced Forsett to function as a human loophole. As a vested veteran, he immediately reached free agency rather than being exposed to the other 31 teams on the waiver wire. The running back received a couple of calls over the weekend from interested teams, but no offers were close to Baltimore's.

To sweeten the pot, the Ravens included a $100,000 incentive if Forsett surpasses last year's rushing total of 641 yards.

Got the same contract back too.

Not a bad way to get round the new rule and what should be an easy extra $100k for Forsett.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Noticed that the UK could finally use Draftkings :drool:

I'm in the following contests:

http://i.imgur.com/ZeyiGd6.png

With these two lineups:

http://i.imgur.com/Wy94lfR.png

How much will I get back from my $13-odd? Probably nothing.

[Giggles]

I still don't get what they actually did with Forsett from that article. Why is it of benefit regarding Davis or Elam?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If they had moved Davis or Elam to IR before the final cuts they wouldn't have been able to do the IR with return. They'd have been out the whole season.

As it is one of them could start practising again in week 6 and be playing by week 8.

Davis will be the favourite unless we get some safety issues or a big name player gets injured for multiple weeks.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07w0tds


Reggie Yates presents a look at America as seen through the eyes of the NFL. Reggie travels to Green Bay, Wisconsin, to meet with the Green Bay Packers, visit a cheese factory and meet the superfans. The Packers are the only NFL team owned by their fans, and Reggie meets key local characters who epitomise the city's passion for the game. Travelling through the small town of Green Bay and the broader Wisconsin area, Reggie soon realises why they are considered to be the most hardcore supporters in the whole of the US.

:sick:

Fuck Reggie Yates and fuck the Packers, it could have had potential without them.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000696675/article/exnfl-qb-tim-tebow-signs-with-new-york-mets

TEBOWMANIA is back in New York with the Mets.

[Giggles]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07w0tds


:sick:

Fuck Reggie Yates and fuck the Packers, it could have had potential without them.


Even as a Packers fan, Yates already means I wouldn't switch it on.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Football is back :drool:

[Dan]

I've cracked open a beer and put some chips & onion rings in the oven :drool:

It's going to be 13-7 or something horrible, but who gives a shit, we have football again.

[Dan]

Yet another shit version of the American national anthem. Thanks :moop:

One day they'll get someone to sing it who doesn't just use it to show off how many different notes they can hit over the course of a single word with no interest in actually singing a song well. Taking a breath mid-way through a word is the sign of a particularly excellent vocalist.

[Dan]

Trev :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Big Trev looking better than Manning did last season.

[Dan]

I didn't realise Star Lotoulelei was part lion.

Denver looking much better than last year on offence. That's pretty worrying if their defence hasn't suddenly turned to shit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What a great first carry, well played Booker.

[Dan]

Booker :face: Bet they wish they'd kept Hillman now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I didn't realise Star Lotoulelei was part lion.

Denver looking much better than last year on offence. That's pretty worrying if their defence hasn't suddenly turned to shit.

I fucking love him.

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/0NV2oDGOIcNgwzM8Adx97yySd34=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6005751/cats2.0.jpg

Whole team doing that shit dab but he looks like he wants to murder them all. Hero.

[Dan]

Nah, don't throw to Benjamin. He doesn't need yards or touchdowns. While you're at it Cam, don't bother throwing to Olsen either.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Janovich showing Booker what to do on the first carry of your career.

He's been a beast this far, blocking so well for Anderson.

[Dan]

Janovich :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What a mong, jumping for that.

[Dan]

Looks like Cam might've picked up a knock on that sack from DeMarcus Ware...