The NFL Thread

[Luca]

They do :eyemouth:

[niko_cee]

They should present trophies to the owners in football.

It's always the best bit of the various championship games.

[Ian]

Lads, where should I be going for general NFL reading?

Sports Illustrated seems to be going down the 'x free articles per month' route so that's going to be the end of that for me.

EDIT: I didn't know that (for some sites at least) you can get round this with incognito tabs.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Stunning.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's looking like we're going to be trading our starting RT (who filled in at LT when Stanley got injured) Orlando Brown Jr as he has been saying on Twitter that he wants to be played at LT only and he just came out with this today:

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Which makes it sound like he's already requested a trade which he expects will happen.

He was a third round selection and under contract next year plus he's been brilliant. Obviously we don't have leverage but I think it will be a two pick deal with a first/late second and a second or third.

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He's officially asked for a trade.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

JJ Watt has been released.

[Foe]

:(

Seriously though. What’s the plan?

[bruhnaldo]

I doubt we’d wanna spend the money required

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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[Gray Fox]

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Hefty guaranteed to be giving out considering the injury.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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He was the Titans first round pick in the last draft coming in at pick 29.

[Pleb]

https://www.nfl.com/news/saints-qb-drew-brees-announces-retirement-after-20-year-career

What a guy.

[Ian]

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I really like Lindsay so I'll be annoyed if he leaves for fuck all.

[Gray Fox]

Seems strange as they were really hot on him and he has 2, 1000 yard seasons under his belt.

Good news if you are Melvin Gordon I guess.

[Ian]

One injury-hampered season and not being a 'fit' for Shurmur's offense apparently.

Annoying.

[Ian]

I am liking the look of the work done on the defensive side for Denver so far this off-season. I assume on the quarterback front they're in a bit of a holding pattern just now or trying to come up with a plan B as I reckon they were into the idea of going big for Watson.

[Browning]

The Niners have given 3 1sts and a 3rd to move up to 1.03 (previously Dolphins).

RIP Jimmy G.

And now the Eagles have traded down, bringing the Dolphins back to 1.06

[Foe]

Big time swinging from the dolphins. Turning tunsil and a WR so average (Britt?) I’ve forgotten his name into 4 first round picks.

49ers are pretty confident they can win now and aren’t willing to waste it with cj beathard leading the line.

Feel a bit for nick mullens. He looked a perfectly solid qb a couple years ago.

[Gray Fox]

If(big if) Wentz plays 75% of snaps for the Colts this season the Eagles now have 3 first round picks in 2022. I'm still disappointed though. The chance of a big time playmaker like Chase or Pitts has just evaporated, which would have added some excitement to the season. That the Eagles were also attempting to trade to #3 for Wilson says to me upstairs don't like Hurts too much.

I get the long term thinking. If we're honest, the Eagles are not 1 QB from competing, there are several glaring holes in the team and you could likely pick any position for our pick and it'd be the right positional choice. As it is I'd place a large bet on a CB being taken that will likely be way too soon.

It does provide the Jets with an interesting opportunity. Zach Wilson is getting the media wet at the mention of his name right now, so if anyone wanted to send the house to gazump the 49ers they really could demand a Kings ransom. As is they should likely take Wilson themselves, but Jets gotta Jet.

Dolphins played the field spectacularly there.

[Foe]

There’s a load of them that have a pretty equal shot.

Trevor aside they’re surely all similar punts as a first rounder.

Wilson, fields, Lance and to a lesser extent mac Jones.

For the eagles with all those holes, Just stick where you are now and see what falls.

[Gray Fox]

Sounds like Edelman had a knee injury he just couldn't get rid of. He failed his return physical and after being contractually cut by the Patriots he's retired.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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My feelings are a little mixed about the trade.

Obviously we had no leverage so we were always going to find really good value for him and I think this is a fair price considering that. I really don't like that he's gone to the Chiefs though.

The team are also expected to sign Alejandro Villanueva to replace him at RT.

I think we'll end up using the capital to move up in the draft.

[Foe]

Broncos have taken a punt on bridgewater, who’s basically been tossed from the panthers.

Interesting move.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Panthers are even paying $7m of Teddy's $10m salary to send him to the Broncos.

[Ian]

I assume that means the plan is to shunt Lock somewhere and draft a QB to sit behind Bridgewater for a few years. I'm not unhappy with that depending who we get.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Ian.

[Ian]

Well that's come from fucking nowhere. Crikey.

In draft news does one of you nerds want to tell me about this Patrick Surtain 2: The Revenge lad that Denver have drafted? Secondary is looking good this year but I think at least one including Fuller are only on short deals so it makes sense to get some yoof in there.

[Foe]

Recorded and watched this morning.

#1 and #2 were locked but figured SF would go fields as more secure. Fair play for them giving up so much and taking an absolute punt on Trey lance.

Najee Harris at 24 made so much sense and was about the only pick I correctly got beyond the first two.

Hopefully Justin fields gets a chance to learn and thrive in Chicago.

Disappointed with the Texans first round pick.

[Foe]

Should point out I mocked Mac Jones at 12 to the eagles. Interesting they passed on fields and Jones, but devonta smith is a good wideout who fills a need.

[Gray Fox]

Should point out I mocked Mac Jones at 12 to the eagles. Interesting they passed on fields and Jones, but devonta smith is a good wideout who fills a need.

I woke up at 4 for work and the first thing I saw was that we traded up and the heart sank. To leapfrog the Giants like that, for almost no cost, was a great thing to see. I didn't want to see any QB factory shenanigans.

There's still plenty of holes to fill, but with a star WR now on board there's that bit of excitement to watch him play. There's also potentially 3 first rounders next year for us. The interesting move is us passing on Fields. I like him as a prospect, but Hurts hasn't really been given enough time to prove if he has it or not.

Very much a transition season ahead, but not as bleak as it looked a little while back.

[Dan]

Well that's come from fucking nowhere. Crikey.

In draft news does one of you nerds want to tell me about this Patrick Surtain 2: The Revenge lad that Denver have drafted? Secondary is looking good this year but I think at least one including Fuller are only on short deals so it makes sense to get some yoof in there.

He's been starting for Alabama since he was a freshman, which pretty much never happens. More of a press-man guy, but I'd imagine he could do whatever they ask him to. Not sure he'll be a mega elite 'shutdown corner' type, but he'll be a good starter for years.


Recorded and watched this morning.

#1 and #2 were locked but figured SF would go fields as more secure. Fair play for them giving up so much and taking an absolute punt on Trey lance.

Najee Harris at 24 made so much sense and was about the only pick I correctly got beyond the first two.

Hopefully Justin fields gets a chance to learn and thrive in Chicago.

Disappointed with the Texans first round pick.

Nah, they could use Jaylen Waddle.

[Dan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vplOqWEnS-E

Just gonna leave this here for you Ian

[Ian]

Well he seems promising. I thought trading up for a second round RB seemed a slightly odd move but it sounds like Paton just really loves him and it seems like we've collected a bunch of lower-round picks so I'm not unhappy with Paton's business so far.

Also sounds like some sources/journos got a little overexcited about what might have been some non-titbit about Rodgers too.

[Baz]

Today, someone told me I look like Trevor Lawrence.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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:drool:

[Ian]

:drool:

[niko_cee]

Ok Trevor, so, this is what you don't do . . .

[Ian]

The Tebow season is one of my favorites in my time supporting Denver. Such a stupid year. I loved it

[Ian]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57336282

I didn't even realise this was a thing.

:face:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Neither did I.

I honestly can't believe they thought that "formula" was all good.

[Foe]

Carl Nassib going to get a lot of attention now, and based on that hard knocks episode he’s going to know how to turn into a lucrative situation as well as a weight off his chest.

Good on him.

[Foe]

In the next twist in the saga.. Aaron Rodgers can opt out of next season and still get his roster and signifying bonus (18-20mill) but can’t be traded or reactivate during season.

Has to decide by Friday.

Basically, If he really doesn’t want to play for Green Bay again and doesn’t think they’ll give him a huge contract with guarantees basically nullifying the benefit of selecting love, he can out of spite sit out and watch them have to roll the dice with their rookie whilst still earning a shit ton of salary. Take that gutenkunst, you cunt.

[Dan]

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Wowzers.

[Gray Fox]

The NFL has today informed teams that if a game cannot be rescheduled in the 18 week season, due to COVID among unvaccinated players, the team will forfeit and be credited with a loss. Players pay will also be affected.

Not long after the announcement DeAndre Hopkins posted this before quickly deleting it:

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There could be some scenes if there are players who still refuse to have it.

[Giggles]

He should just get it and not be such a fucking poser.

[niko_cee]

You'd think with the amount of other shit these people undoubtedly take that the anti-vax line would be a hard one to maintain.

[Gray Fox]

He's arguably the best WR in the game so if he opts out due to the new ruling, I reckon a few more would take that as reason enough to follow.

That said, he really should just get the jab. I don't understand the argument against it.

[Gray Fox]

Sounds like Rodgers is done. He's not getting what he wants(the GM fired) and it seems no one will pay the price to get him. Some bookies in the USA are not offering lines on the Packers over/under as they expect him to retire by August.

The Packers have also pissed off Devante Adams. He's due a new contract and they refused to pay him top WR money. Considering the season he just came off, he's quite pissed off and both he and Rodgers posted a picture of The Last Dance on their Instagram accounts last night.

There's going to be a hell of a lot of pressure on Jordan Love very soon if this is true.

[Foe]

Texas and Oklahoma abandoning their pissy conference for the SEC too makes it a big news weekend over there.

Jordan love needs to show why teams considered him a first rounder. Then again, he fell all the way to 25 or so, so it’s no easy feat. Can imagine it’s a brain fuck for Green Bay given he and Rodgers are completely different styles of player.

[Gray Fox]

The usual model for Green Bay is to have the young QB learn for a few years, right? I seem to recall Rodgers himself being sat for about 4 years.

If they knew he was going to smash it, they'd surely have dumped Rodgers off by now too you'd think.

Fans will turn on management hard if they lose the league MVP and arguable best WR in the game in the same off season.

[Foe]

Rodgers struggled his first season though, went 6-10 after they were 13-3 the season before. There can be a rough stretch as long as the qb looks promising.

Devante has no leverage I didn’t think. The tag is against him…

[Dan]

We have football on Thursday night :drool:

Okay, so it’s only the Hall of Fame game, but it’s football.

[Ian]

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Aaaaand he's been released again.

[Gray Fox]

I’m currently inconsolable.

[Ian]

I will always think fondly back on that season with Denver though, which him being mostly shit but occasionally leading inspirational comebacks. Getting the playoffs at 8-8. The referee in the Pittsburgh wildcard game spending approximately three hours explaining the new OT rules only for Tebow to find Thomas who ran 80 yards for a touchdown on the first place.

Glorious times.

[niko_cee]

What are Christian Wade's chances of making the cut this year?

[Dan]

I’d imagine he’ll narrowly miss out again. Moss, Singletary & Breida will be the three who get the ball, and they like Taiwan Jones as a special teams/locker room guy. Not sure they’d keep more than that.

[Foe]

Is kerryon Johnson seriously going to be spit out by the league already?

Guess all that bruising at auburn worked against him.

[Dan]

Seems like it, given his injury history & the infinite supply of running backs who can contribute straight out of college.

He’ll probably have to get used to playing special teams if he wants to stick on a roster at this point.

[Foe]

Shame. He’s $1.8m ish better off because of football, but he will live with that horror forever.

Shame for him too as if the college pay laws came in a few years ago he probably could’ve made that before even reaching the pros.

What does a 24 year old retired NFL running back do with their life? Hopefully he’s got a sensible head on him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bang some sloots and try to get some media work.

[Foe]

Cam Newton waived.

It’s Mac Jones to roll from the off.

[Dan]

Who cares about Cam? The real headline from cut down day is that rookie punter & 250lb specimen Pressley Harvin III beat out Jordan Berry for the Steelers job :cool:

[Dan]

College football is back \o/

Penn State/Wisconsin should be a good game to start us off, before Alabama crush Miami, then we get Georgia/Clemson, which will be one of the biggest regular season games of the whole season.

Also, lol at apparent dark horse playoff contenders North Carolina losing their opening game to Virginia Tech, who didn’t even make a bowl game last year (but do have a load of pretty good players, to be fair).

Looks like a pretty bad start of Sam Howell’s draft stock too, but then there were a load of horrible turnovers in week one (both QBs had awful picks in the Boise/UCF game, and Nebraska pulled off a spectacular shambles to give up a safety on a punt return).

[Foe]

Yeah got game day on. Last week was rubbish.

Interested to see how DJ copes.

Probably won’t get to watch much but will see if I can catch some highlights. Where’s the best place to get them? Do bt sport /espn do highlights? Or do I need to grab espn player?

[Foe]

My cousin is making full use of being a student post covid and going to Kyle Field to watch them absolutely pump Kent state hopefully. He’s all in on one of the wideouts there, thinks he will making a killing locally off the NIL stuff (chase lane).

I am jealous.

And should really become an A&M fan on that basis.

[Dan]

Yeah got game day on. Last week was rubbish.

Interested to see how DJ copes.

Probably won’t get to watch much but will see if I can catch some highlights. Where’s the best place to get them? Do bt sport /espn do highlights? Or do I need to grab espn player?

I tend to just go to YouTube, to be honest. There are a few channels who do condensed games pretty soon after - Matthew Loves Ball (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4GNCKohtEHRccrxKQiDJNg) is the one that I can remember the name of.

[Dan]

My cousin is making full use of being a student post covid and going to Kyle Field to watch them absolutely pump Kent state hopefully. He’s all in on one of the wideouts there, thinks he will making a killing locally off the NIL stuff (chase lane).

I am jealous.

And should really become an A&M fan on that basis.

I’ll be interested to see what A&M look like this year. They’re usually pretty slow & not very explosive, so I’m not expecting them to change with a new QB in place - probably still going to run through Wydermyer & the RBs - but it does seem like that’s the leap they need to take to be an actual threat as a playoff contender.

[Dan]

College football is back \o/

Penn State/Wisconsin should be a good game to start us off

Erm, maybe? Only if you like car crash TV though. We also nearly had Oklahoma lose to Tulane, so it's just been a miserable start for the 2022 QB draft class.

Kayvon Thibodeaux has also got injured already, so it's not exactly getting much better out west.

[Foe]

DJ looked rough.

Rattler and Howell had a rough start too.

Bama to absolutely steam roll this season, most likely.

The Clemson OL really struggled to handle Georgia. Difficult to know if Georgia could do that against Bama and the like because Clemson really didn’t offer much. Big 99 at Georgia was class. Monster.

[Dan]

Yeah, everyone’s basically surrendered to Alabama already. Really need some big improvements from the rest of the power teams if anyone is going to give them a proper game.

Awesome to see McKenzie Milton come in to the game yesterday & lead a TD drive, but couldn’t pull off the upset thanks to the good old college kicker phenomenon.

Also, lol at Washington losing to Montana, which has a shot to be the most embarrassing loss of the whole season.

[Gray Fox]

It’s Tuhrod season baby.

[Foe]

:(

Tanking for Spencer (?)

[Gray Fox]

Holding for Howell?

[Foe]

We will do another clowney and take thibedeaux only to let him walk year 5.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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The fuck is going on?

[Gray Fox]

Suspected ACL tears for both guys.

All on Lamar again then.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Both confirmed:

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:moop:

[thommo]

Brilliant opening game last night. Thought Godwin had lost it for the Bucs with the fumble on the goal line, but the Cowboys just left too much time on the clock.

[Foe]

The amount of completed passes caught me off guard.

Gronk still having it is great. Opted for him over Noah fant in fantasy so hopefully off to a flier.

Mike evans, less so.

[Dan]

Oregon having to take on Ohio State without Thibodeaux & Justin Floe :uhoh:

Sucks for KT in particular - this was the banner game for him to really get the #1 overall pick hype rolling.

[Dan]

Oregon having to take on Ohio State without Thibodeaux & Justin Floe :uhoh:

Sucks for KT in particular - this was the banner game for him to really get the #1 overall pick hype rolling.

Never mind, Ohio State's defense is worse :D CJ Verdell is running all over them. Just give the trophy to Bama already, nobody else looks remotely close to them.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Insane.

[Ian]

McScorin'. :cool:

[Foe]

Who knew the jets would still be bad?

The jags losing to Houston is not a good sign for their season. They lost 15 on the trot did they not? This makes it an 0-16 run.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Niners/Lions game is mad.

[Ian]

Miller looks on it so far.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Icing the kicker does not work.

[Ian]

Nice drop, Hamler, you little shit.

Broncos offence so far is looking.... alright?

[Ian]

Alright maybe isn't the right word, because it's been deeply meh. But it looks closer to being alright than I thought it would.

EDIT: Yay, Jeudy being carted off.

[Ian]

Well that second half was largely pretty decent in the end. I know the giants aren't great but it was a good steady performance and it's good to see Miller playing well.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We were pretty damn pathetic.

We looked pretty handy in the first half although a little toothless at times but then completely wilted in the second.

Villanueva might as well have not player as I think he was beat by Crosby on every single play other than those where he had help or he was holding. The rest of the O-Line weren't great but they weren't turnstiles. I also think that the play calling really didn't help, we were running the ball well but we largely moved away from it even though we were leading. This would have helped the useless Villanueva a lot. Ty'Son Williams for example barely got a carry after his 35 yard TD, why?

The defensive play calling was also shocking. Wink Martindale kept sending cover 0 blitzes and every single time he did we were picked apart including on the last play of OT. I also knew as soon as we settled for a FG at the end of the 4th we were in trouble and Martindale gave them an easy FG to tie it as he only rushed 3 on the 2 plays whilst dropping everyone else 40 yards deep. Why? They weren't looking to push it deep down the field and go for a hail mary, they wanted 20 yards a play and we gave them that easily.

[Browning]

Ty'son was seemingly benched for being absolute shit in pass protection.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ty'son was seemingly benched for being absolute shit in pass protection.

And yet they used him to protect for Lamar in OT (which was another poor decision).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_PuXbvUUAI0ayd?format=jpg&name=large

He was used the most used RB by far but they didn't give him many carries in the second half.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Giants already pissing off their first round receiver and their big time free agent WR :)

[phonics]

It happens every year but seeing the size of these college football stadiums full is absolutely insane.

[Gray Fox]

It's when you realise these are 50k+ seater stadiums that are rammed full for every game, it sinks in.

Their High School games probably get watched by more than we get for the Championship over here.

[phonics]

I was thinking more of the 100kers like Penn State.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Not too shabby.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Odafe Oweh has had a great opening two games.

[Foe]

I see Clemson have decided they don’t want to play for championship this year.

My cousin was at cowboy stadium last night (jealous) but the result suggests it’s tatties for A&M - which makes sense what i saw of calzada in the first half.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Absolutely insane.

[phonics]

The chargers guy who just tried to leap over someone, failed and just kneed the guy in the face only to get obliterated by another guy coming from the side?

Play of the season.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Agnew is fucking incredible at returns.

[Gray Fox]

The chargers guy who just tried to leap over someone, failed and just kneed the guy in the face only to get obliterated by another guy coming from the side?

Play of the season.

That just got 1-upped.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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[Foe]

Justin tucker saving the ravens there. Christ. Imagine what he’d do in Denver.

[phonics]

If I was an NFL GM, I’d just find a guy that can kick 60 yard fgs. Don’t know why they make it so hard in themselves hiring these guys that can’t even kick an extra point reliably.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Justin Tucker is the best to ever do it.

His warm up at Wembley a few years ago was incredible too. Blasted it from the halfway line one way, then turned around and did it again the other way and then finally he went 5 yards deeper and smashed it through.

[Gray Fox]

But does he have the goggles?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's the one thing holding him back.

[phonics]

I know it's probably not the case but I have to say, I feel like kicking field goals isn't that hard and I could do it with a couple months practice.

[Gray Fox]

The actual act of kicking the ball through the posts, yes.

Doing it whilst very large men are running full speed at you with the sole intention of causing you a lot of pain, maybe not.

[Gray Fox]

Looks like the Josh Gordon show has pulled into town again. First stop, Kansas City.

[Foe]

Burrow looked good is really pleasing.

On a side note, notre dame v Cincinnati is on sky sports nfl right now about to kick off.

Think they must show all the notre dame games.

Georgia smashing Arkansas shows that the SEC is a Georgia bama showdown, Arkansas beating A&M and then getting smashed by Georgia… a real who’s actually good season.

Double SEC in the playoff with ohio state and one other. Oklahoma?

[Foe]

Just checked the rankings and real possibility it’s Oregon/penn state or Iowa. Which would be class.

Really like Iowa. Cool stadium and shoved some decent TEs into the NFL.

[Foe]

Didn’t realise drew brees had gone into the commentary booth too. That’s sweet.

[Dan]

Just checked the rankings and real possibility it’s Oregon/penn state or Iowa. Which would be class.

Really like Iowa. Cool stadium and shoved some decent TEs into the NFL.

Oregon probably just took themselves out, so they'll need some help if they're going to get back in the hunt. It doesn't seem likely that we'll end up with many undefeated teams though, so if the Big 10 & Big 12 both end up with 1-loss champion as well they might sneak in.

Iowa just need to beat Penn State next week, and if they do they've got a good chance at going undefeated, at least until the championship game. Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State & Ohio State all have to play each other still, so they're likely to take each other out, but if Ohio State can run the table & then beat Iowa in the title game, or if one of the others can go unbeaten, they're probably in, although if it ends up as a choice between Ohio State & Oregon as 1 loss champions that head to head loss is really going to hurt.

Oklahoma have been shaky all season, but they're still undefeated, so they're in with a shot, but they do have Texas next week, as well as Oklahoma State (also unbeaten) & Iowa State left to play, so it wouldn't be surprising for them to drop at least one.

Cincinnati should have a clear run to the end now, although SMU are also unbeaten, and you can never rule out UCF, even if they're trash this year. I guess you can also mention BYU & Coastal Carolina again, but they don't really have a shot even if they win out.

Should be a good run to the finish line though - plenty of teams with a shot but not many of them look like they can be relied on not to bottle it, so it'll be interesting to see who holds their nerve.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I really hate our coaching staff at times.

Ty'Son Williams a healthy scratch despite having a 6.1 yards per carry (only RB with a higher amount with 10+ rushes is Tony Pollard with 6.8) because we need to feed Freeman and Murray who can barely manage to get 3 yards.

Yes he's fumbled twice and he's a bit suspect in pass protection but he's our only legit running threat in our depleted running back room.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

"I thought it was kind of bulls***," Fangio said. "But I expected it from them. Thirty-seven years in pro ball, I've never seen anything like that. But it was to be expected, and I expected it."

So why did Fangio expect it?

"'Cause I just know how they operate," he continued. "That's just their mode of operation. Player safety is secondary there."

:harold:

[Dan]

Texas/Oklahoma off to a fast start.

Yeah, I think this game might hit 100pts. Neither team can tackle.

[Foe]

And I guess that’s the end of Spencer rattler at the sooners.

Heading to the PAC12 next year you’d think.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's headed to the Steelers in the next draft.

I guarantee it.

[Dan]

And I guess that’s the end of Spencer rattler at the sooners.

Heading to the PAC12 next year you’d think.

Imagine if he transferred to Oklahoma State :drool:

[Foe]

Texas A&M :drool:

[Dan]

They deserved it too. Calzada has looked rubbish so far, but he stepped up today & the offence actually looked good.

Bama had some uncharacteristic plays - Brian Robinson fumbling on a third & short, Bryce Young throwing a pick in the end zone, the busted coverage on the Wydermyer TD & the Achane kick return - but they didn’t look bad on the whole. I feel sorry for Mississippi State as they’ve got to take the beating from a pissed out Bama next week.

Also, Iowa are going unbeaten now. I’m not sure they would have won it Sean Clifford hadn’t got hurt, but as soon as he came out for the second half in street clothes it was over, as their backup just couldn’t move the ball at all.

I still don’t think Iowa are really that good - I think their offense was ranked about 120 out of 130 teams before the game - but that defense just gets an unbelievable number of turnovers, and now the best team left on their schedule is probably Wisconsin, who have been awful this season.

[Foe]

Yeah, it’s a blip for bama but realistically, there’s probably only Georgia in their way anyway and they would meet them in SEC play regardless.

Sneaking past Florida and losing to A&M isn’t a great look, but luckily - who else is there?

[igor_balis]

Is it just me or did this little gremlin on the sky sports coverage just really obviously drop about 4 uncensored F bombs? :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Is it just me or did this little gremlin on the sky sports coverage just really obviously drop about 4 uncensored F bombs? :D

And I'm sure I heard "pussy".

I really wish it was H from Steps.

[igor_balis]

And I'm sure I heard "pussy".

I really wish it was H from Steps.

At least this twat isn't as bad as his other namesake :uhoh:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The swearing portions were apparently pre-recorded that they forgot to bleep, lol.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mason Crosby is so shit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Celebrating failure :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/11/sports/football/what-did-jon-gruden-say.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes


Gruden’s messages were sent to Bruce Allen, the former president of the Washington Football Team, and others, while he was working for ESPN as a color analyst during “Monday Night Football,” the sports network’s weekly prime-time telecast of N.F.L. games. In the emails, Gruden called the league’s commissioner, Roger Goodell, a “faggot” and a “clueless anti football pussy” and said that Goodell should not have pressured Jeff Fisher, then the coach of the Rams, to draft “queers,” a reference to Michael Sam, a gay player chosen by the team in 2014.

The league is already investigating Gruden as a result of another email he wrote to Allen in 2011 in which he used racist terms to describe Smith, who is Black.

In that email, Gruden, who is white and was working for ESPN at the time, criticized Smith’s intelligence and used a racist trope to describe his face.

Gruden is fucked.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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He's gone.

[Foe]

The cardinals roster is filthy on offence.

Adding ertz in to the mix? Jeezo.

Ditching Josh Rosen has to gone well.

[Gray Fox]

My boy isn't the same player he was 2 years ago. I think some niggles have caught up with him, but either way I'm so sad to see him go. I even said to the guys on the discord last night that it felt like that time was coming and here we are.

He'll still be killer for the Cardinals though.

[Foe]

Rattler was officially benched and I don’t think he’s getting back in, bar an injury.

Oklahoma look way better with Williams.

Iowa showing that being good on defence with zero offence isn’t a winning combo.

Georgia, bama, Oklahoma, Ohio state.

After all the upset and chaos of this year, I suspect the final 4 in the playoff will have a familiar feel.

Cincinnati the team that could squeeze in, but suspect they’ll be overlooked or slip up down the way.

[Foe]

Bbc2 for jags fins right now

[niko_cee]

Has Mark Chapman been sacked off of all the BBC's NFL coverage? Seems a shame if he has. The weekly highlights programme is a bit too much with "Osi & J Bell" going full tilt all the time.

[Gray Fox]

He walked away of his own accord by the sound of it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That was a class ending. I did not see that call coming to get a quick first down to give their kicker a chance.

[niko_cee]

Aye, that was a quality super sneaky move by the Jags.

[Ian]

Well the Broncos season has taken an unpleasant turn since the alright start.

Bit worrying that the defence has gone to shit given a) it looked strong and b) that's what Fangio's meant to be good at.

[Dan]

Teddy looks to have lost his head a bit the last couple of games, but at least Courtland Sutton is running wild.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Kid took that elbow like a champ.

[Foe]

Reminder to all the games kick off at 5pm tonight.

Our clocked changed but america is later.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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He dead.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Oh shit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What the fuck were the Broncos doing there?

Passing on second down when trying to chew the clock to end the game and then Melvin Gordon not protecting the ball on third down.

[Ian]

Yeah nearly chucked that, though I thought both teams crammed a lot of ineptitude into that final passage of play.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Ian.

I really thought he was going to be a one team man.

[Ian]

I'm a little sad he won't be seeing out his career in Denver but I'm long past hoping too much for these things to actually happen. His form his been patchier and obviously the injuries haven't helped but he's still one of my favourites. A huge part of that defence that carried Manning to a Super Bowl.

I don't blame him for wanting to try and get another ring before he finishes up and it should give Denver a bit more wiggle room for drafting, trades, etc.

[Gray Fox]

Henry Ruggs involved in a big car crash last night. There's been no real info on it yet besides a couple of photos of 2 crashed cars by each other, no idea if it's his.

Local reports say someone died in the crash and the Raiders and Ruggs agent aren't responding to comment yet...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Ruggs is done.

[Gray Fox]

Okay 100% fuck that guy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's been cut.

[Ian]

I will never understand why these idiots think throwing away a short but "never need to work again" career (and in this case fucking murdering somebody) because you'd rather drink and drive than call a fucking Uber.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Double the limit and he was going over 150mph (120ish when the airbags deployed) at one point.

[Ian]

Hope he gets the book thrown at him.

[Shindig]

The problem with drunk drivers is they think they're really good at it.

[Gray Fox]

Double the limit and he was going over 150mph (120ish when the airbags deployed) at one point.

Don't forget the loaded gun in the car as well.

[Gray Fox]

Word is that the Browns, after asking Beckham to stay away from practice while they figure out what to do with him, have decided to cut him and will do so Friday.

Very interested to see who ends up taking a punt. He’s shown very little talent in Cleveland and a lot of bad attitude.

[Ian]

I wouldn't be surprised if a team who think they're a bit of help at receiver away from contending have a punt in the way the Pats used to take on players considered to be problem cases, in the hope that the promise of competing for a ring will keep him in line. Whether there's a team who have the culture / personality of that Pats team with Belichick and Brady is a different issue.

[Gray Fox]

I mean the most obvious move in my mind is the Raiders. They just lost one cunt WR so why not bring another in.

They're also 5-2, likely to make that 6 this week and Carr is actually a pretty good QB these days.

Beyond that, looking at teams in contention, do the Saints want another diva WR? He wouldn't fit in Baltimore. Cincy and Buffalo have enough at WR already. Same for Tennessee, Arizona and LA Rams. Perhaps the Packers would give him a deal for the rest of the season? Rodgers has struggled for years to find that compliment to Adams.
I'm not sure any team in rebuild mode wants to take his baggage on, or if his ego would even let him go to say a Houston.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We wont sign him. I think the team is happy with Hollywood, Watkins (although injured right now), Bateman, Proche and Duvernay. Plus we have fuck all cap room.

Got to imagine that the Packers, Saints and Raiders are probably the front runners.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I watched the first season of Last Chance U over the last few days and I loved it.

Such a shame Ronald Ollie never made it as he looked like he could be amazing if he really applied himself.

Miss Wagner was the real star though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Josh Allen sacked Josh Allen and Josh Allen also picking off Josh Allen is what we all needed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

And now Josh Allen fumbles with Josh Allen recovers it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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The effort :drool:

[Ian]

There's a video doing the rounds of Zac Stacy, briefly of the Rams, battering his other half.

I remember the name so I'm surprised he played as few seasons as he did but here's hoping he gets the fucking jail.

[Gray Fox]

I know domestic violence is never a good thing, but for what I saw in that video I hope he goes away for years. He tosses her about the room like she's a child, stops to think, then goes back on the attack again. Absolute scumbag.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The video is horrible.

[Kikó]

Bad bad prick.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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What the fuck?

Even the 40m is too much.

[Dan]

But why?!

[Ian]

The state of that whiffed tackle on Bridgewater. :D

I genuinely, without pause, said "Oh nooooOH YES!" as he dodged it and squeezed the pass through.

I don't understand Denver this year.

[Dan]

Foe

Lincoln Riley to USC.

EDIT: And now Brian Kelly to LSU, seemingly out of nowhere.

Coaching carousel is pretty mad this year, considering we’ve also had Florida, Washington & then the two hires above have opened up Oklahoma & Notre Dame.

[Foe]

Yeah spotted some weird moves. That lincoln Riley one caught me way off guard.

Bama beating Georgia in the sec championship is depressing. They will absolutely roll Cincinnati. A Michigan Georgia slug fest should be good though.

Not a great week to have goedert on my fantasy bench. But I had to start gronk vs the falcons right? Right?!

[Dan]

All the talk about how great Georgia have been on defense, and how Bama look vulnerable & have a bad line by their usual standards, then they just stroll out & put up 41pts without any trouble.

Will be fun to see a couple of new faces, at least.

[Foe]

Would actually love to see Michigan play the best two games of their year and win it.

Cincinnati just need to take lots of photos for their reunion in a decade.

[Gray Fox]

:wub:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FF37NWOXMAYTCeA?format=jpg&name=900x900

[phonics]

The wind is absurd that no-one can pass and the Bills who are with the wind somehow managed to fall over and let in a 40 yard rushing TD. Abysmal.

[niko_cee]

Until I see Robert Kraft looking all smug at some point [inevitable] I quite like the New Pats.

[Gray Fox]

It sounds like Demaryius Thomas may have taken his own life. :(

[Ian]

Oh. :(

[Disco]

I did wonder why the reports just gave 'a medical issue' as the cause.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

His family have said they believe it was due to a seizure whilst showering. They say he's been having them for the last year as a result of a car accident.

[Ian]

I saw a tweet earlier with that beautiful OT touchdown against the Steelers but it really loses something without the context of the official taking what felt like an age to explain the overtime rules only for it to not matter.

I love that season.

The comments from former teammates do seen to me to be falling into the "this was an actual top fella" category too.

Please don't tell me there was a wife-beating incident or something I've forgotten.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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That's a pretty cool tribute.

[Ian]

Good that the Lions spotted it too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That did not look good for Donald Parham.

[Ian]

Albert O hurdling people. :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Speaking of TE's, Mandrews :cool:

Best in the league.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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What a quote.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Teddy :(

[thommo]

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:harold:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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At least he's smart enough to throw punches at someone who isn't wearing a helmet.

[Pleb]

Madden :(

[Gray Fox]

That Burfict hit really did screw Antonio Brown up, huh?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Antonio Brown is mental.

[Baz]

Retiring mid game sure wasn't in the betting market.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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He's gone.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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What a fucking catch.

Get fucked David Tyree.

[Foe]

Caleb Williams is transferring from Oklahoma Dan

Mental.

He could go just about anywhere. Imagine he turned up at Clemson. :drool:

[Dan]

Yeah, will be interesting to see where he goes - sounds like he's still considering staying at Oklahoma, but just wants to see what options he has. You'd think USC would be up there given Lincoln Riley, but I think they've already taken a guy from Oklahoma's upcoming class & with Jaxson Dart showing some promise as a freshman maybe he's still going to be the guy they roll with for now.

Georgia needs a top QB if they're ever going to get their passing game up to where it needs to be for them to really match up to Alabama etc, but I'm not sure Kirby will ever let them modernise enough for that to happen, and he's already shown he didn't know what to do with Justin Fields, so not sure they'd be as good of an option as they ought to be.

If he's planning on going to a national title contender I guess the other main options might be places like Notre Dame or LSU - I think I've seen UCLA mentioned too, and I was thinking that was unlikely as they'd taken Dillon Gabriel from UCF, but I've just googled it & he's now transferring to Oklahoma so maybe he knows something & there's a swap happening.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Drew Lock :cool:

[Ian]

Didn't even realise Denver were playing today.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

ffs Gordon.

[Foe]

Guess we now know why jake fromm fell to the 5th round.

Sheesh.

[niko_cee]

This is pretty funny from indianapolis so far.

[phonics]

If it stays as is we could see two teams agree to tie and spend 2 hours QB kneeling.

[Ian]

A reminder: The Colts are still due to send the Eagles a first-round pick for Wentz in the upcoming draft. Wentz is also on the books for $28m next season, good for the 10th-largest cap hit of any player in the league.

:drool:

EDIT:

Also...

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What? :D

[thommo]

Justin Herbert did all he could last night, and the Raiders still managed to kick the last second overtime FG to knock them out (and send the Steelers through).

He converted 4th and 6, 4th and 21, 4th and 10, 4th and 10 (penalty), 4th and 10 and 4th and 9, in the last 3 drives alone. Unreal effort.

[Gray Fox]

Wentz can absolutely get fucked. He's their problem now.

[Dan]

Yeah, will be interesting to see where he goes - sounds like he's still considering staying at Oklahoma, but just wants to see what options he has. You'd think USC would be up there given Lincoln Riley, but I think they've already taken a guy from Oklahoma's upcoming class & with Jaxson Dart showing some promise as a freshman maybe he's still going to be the guy they roll with for now.

Jaxson Dart is in the portal too now, so Caleb Williams to USC is looking increasingly likely Foe

[Foe]

Big market for him I suppose.

I’m just glad Georgia got the job done. Stetson Bennett is like a shitter version of trace mcsorley. Wee skinny guy QBs are great.

[phonics]

In the weirdest thing ever I've just been invited to be on an NFL podcast?

https://i.imgur.com/cSm9xzV.png

I've watched like 15 games ever.

[Ian]

Has he mistaken you for somebody else? Or how has he got the impression you're a gridiron guru?

[phonics]

No idea, must be an absolute train wreck of a podcast.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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What a horrible roughing the passer call. I'd rather have had the Raiders win but I'm just as happy that Carr threw a pick to end it.

Not a great game, hopefully the rest will be better.

[Ian]

No idea, must be an absolute train wreck of a podcast.

Well they're starting it so it's not a train wreck YET.

You should join and see how well you can wing it.

[Spikey M]

In the weirdest thing ever I've just been invited to be on an NFL podcast?

https://i.imgur.com/cSm9xzV.png

I've watched like 15 games ever.

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[Gray Fox]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJQC8kQXIAEJIbQ?format=jpg&name=900x900

:(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Greatest ending ever, couldn't happen to a better team.

[Pleb]

The Bengals are going to the Super Bowl.

[Ian]

This hasn't been a vintage set of playoff games so far.

But... Mon the Bengals.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I was really hoping the Bungles got spanked and my prediction of a Titans or Bills v Packers Super Bowl has taken a hit already.

Henry didn't look fully fit and Tannehill beefed it despite the Titans D doing a massive amount of work.

Hopefully the Bills beat the Chiefs in the other AFC game and then batter then Bengals.

[phonics]

This next game starting at 1:30 is brutal. If Premier League games have to be played at stupid times can they not reciprocate.

[niko_cee]

Nice to see the NFC clearing the way for Brady again. :face:

Thought the Titans would get up after it went 16-16. Was amazed that interception was allowed to stand given New York's predilection for trying to ruin any bit of exceptional play where the ground is in any way involved. I see Tannehill managed to get a game ending interception in towards the end, was that him intercepted on his first and last throws of the game? And for goodness sake Green Bay.

[Ben]

Watched the highlights of both games this morning. Loving defence being on top in both. Titans kind of always flatter to deceive I think; they lucked into the #1 seed a bit and have too many brain farts for the quality they possess.

[Gray Fox]

Surprised to wake up and see the Packers out. I thought an ice game at Lambeau would have been their thing.

End of an era there now though. Their current committed spending has them $40m or so over cap next year. They wont be able to bring back Rodgers or Adams. In fact the only team in worse shape is the Saints($70m+).

[Dan]

You can always fiddle the cap if you need to - the Saints have been showing that for years. It sounds like Adams is going to get tagged, and they can always cut/restructure a bunch of guys if they have to, but it’ll all depend on Rodgers I guess.

[Foe]

The packers weren’t great, but their special teams really fucked them. Left 3 on the board and then gave 7 the other way.

Bengals/bills/chiefs winner from here please.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Chiefs? Get the fuck out.

[niko_cee]

As if it'll be anything other than everyone falling over themselves in front of Tampa again.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bills
Niners
Rams
Bengals
Chiefs
Buccaneers.

That's my preference, although there's a big gap between the top 3 and the bottom 3.

[Ben]

What's wrong with Cincinnati like?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What's wrong with Cincinnati like?

Ravens fan.

Fuck the Bengals.

[Ben]

Fair.

[Gray Fox]

Personal choice would be Bills. Their fans have suffered long enough.

[Ian]

I'd have Bengals after the Bills and don't care about 3 and 4 but Mahow's list is about right.

Anyone but more fucking Brady.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cooper Kupp :cool:

[Foe]

Promising start here.

Gotta keep the foot on the throttle and avoid a 28-3 lead.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Refs turning face by flagging Brady for unsportsmanlike behaviour :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What the fuck is going on?

[thommo]

How are you kicking it short from 47 yards?!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ugh.

[niko_cee]

Seriously, what the fuck is going on here?