The NFL Thread

[Foe]

Do they still get a ring if the team wins?

How many 7th rounders with not a flying shot of making it will opt out? Can they be cut whilst they’ve opted out?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.nfl.com/news/super-bowl-liv-hero-damien-williams-opts-out-of-2020-season

Damien Williams has opted out.

Also Hockenson and Kenny Golladay have Covid or have been in close contact with someone who has/had it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Marquise Lee (recently signed by the Patriots) and CJ Mosely have opted out.

[Giggles]

Rodgers should opt out after the draft.

[Giggles]

I know those ranking lists they do are bullshit but Mahomes at 4? :D

[Gray Fox]

I know right. Very lucky to be that high.

[Giggles]

Doug Peterson has the big 19.

[Gray Fox]

:(

[Giggles]

https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/xfl-bought-by-the-rock

[Giggles]

Stafford has the covid too.

[Baz]

https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/xfl-bought-by-the-rock

XFL could get pretty big off this so I made a conscious effort to research the teams and find one to “support.” Consider me a massive fan of...
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DC Defenders because they have the best kit.

[Giggles]

It won’t.

[Gray Fox]

It was going okay before the virus hit. But Vince would have been most likely losing more and more of his own money with it anyway, unless he wanted another AAF situation.

[Ian]

https://www.sbnation.com/2020/8/6/21357369/denver-broncos-hat-boncos-nfl-new-era

The Boncos. :cool:

[Gray Fox]

Incredible :D

[Ian]

I've just suggested to my Washington FC supporting brother-in-law that since Denver now have two names we could trade them one for a player or picks or something.

I think the Washington Boncos has a certain refined dignity to it.

[Browning]

The Texans would outbid them anyway.

[Gray Fox]

Guice was arrested on Domestic Violence charges an hour or so ago. Already released.

The Washington Boncos not fucking about.

[Giggles]

Big 10 has pulled the pin for 2020.

[Gray Fox]

Seahawks 'gamble' to hand over 2021 picks for Adams looks better now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Seems that Ngakoue will be traded within the next couple of days.

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If that is indeed a second rounder and not two picks then Jags have fucked it right up. Raiders apparently were offering pick 19 the day before the draft but the Jags rejected as they wanted Oakland's 12th pick.

[Giggles]

Ron Rovera has the big C, though it's apparently a fairly treatable version.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sounds like we might be cutting Earl Thomas.

He was sent home yesterday for throwing punches at Chuck Clark (our other starting safety) and isn't at practice today.

Rumour is that he doesn't have many friends in the locker room and they'd rather he went.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Thomas is done. If we can't trade him well cut him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

And he's been cut.

[Foe]

$22m for one season.

$32m if he wins his grievance.

He an Ozzie new some singing? Or was this one on the new person?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

EDC signing.

He was good last year but he's clearly a bit of a twat.

He's also missed some meetings and been late to others too.

[Dan]

WE HAVE FOOTBALL THIS WEEKEND! :drool:

Austin Peay vs Central Arkansas 2am Sunday morning. Central Arkansas have a corner called Robert Rochell who’s getting draft hype because he’s a freak athlete, so there’s at least one player worth watching.

[Foe]

Central arkansas are playing NDSU later in the year with one of the top QB prospects are they not?

Prime time team.

[Dan]

Yep, NDSU could have a bunch of guys drafted this year. Trey Lance is a likely to be a top 10 pick despite being a redshirt freshman last season (and racking up 42 TDs to 0 INTs), both tackles (LT Dillon Radunz & RT Cordell Volson) will get drafted - Radunz could even be another first rounder - and then they also have WR Christian Watson & CB Josh Hayes who could be day three guys. Also had Jabril Cox at LB last season but he’s transferred to LSU now.

Seems a bit weird for Lance to play one game this season - if he has a bad game against Central Arkansas it could crush his draft stock & even a good game isn’t going to give him much of a boost - but hopefully they’ll find a way to add in some more games or he’ll just opt out & declare.

CSU also play UAB in a couple of weeks, and they have a lot of potential draft picks too, so could be a good few weeks to watch Central Arkansas games.

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't really watch the NFL but started playing madden recently on EA access, is Andy Isabella any good IRL? He's an absolute don with me with the Cardinals.

And yes I'm playing with the Cards because I'm an unimaginative twat that watched the All or Nothing and I'd love to win a ring for Fitz and the clearly closeted homosexual owner who cried about his dead dog.

[Foe]

He’s the famous Josh Rosen trade pick who, I think, has done absolutely fuck all in real world NFL.

[Gray Fox]

They also now have Larry, Kirk and the newly acquired DeAndre Hopkins ahead of him. He'll be lucky to find any game time really.

[Foe]

Fuck sake, I’d completely forgotten about the Johnson Hopkins trade. FML.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Second and a fifth (which could turn into a third) for Ngakoue. Going to the Vikings.

Jags turned down the 19th pick the day of the 2020 draft from the Raiders...

[Dan]

To be honest I'm not sure there were really any players that went between Chaisson & Shenault that were so much better than what they could potentially get from two top 100 picks next year for it to make a lot of difference - at least not ones Jacksonville would've been likely to have picked.

9, 19 & 20 would've been great ammo to have been able to move around the board with though, and if they end up with a late 2 & a 5 it'll be pretty rubbish.

[Foe]

Jags have waived Fournette.

Good use of the 4th overall pick 3 years ago.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

To be honest I'm not sure there were really any players that went between Chaisson & Shenault that were so much better than what they could potentially get from two top 100 picks next year for it to make a lot of difference - at least not ones Jacksonville would've been likely to have picked.

9, 19 & 20 would've been great ammo to have been able to move around the board with though, and if they end up with a late 2 & a 5 it'll be pretty rubbish.

Problem is, 19th was a concrete spot which they could have used to potentially strike gold with. The second and fifth are likely going to be near the back end of said drafts as this makes the Vikings stronger.

Also, they knew Covid was a problem at the time and they could have thought about the possible ramifications. The main one being that it could have disrupted the college season and as such made scouting for the 2021 draft a lot trickier.

Jags were greedy and got punished. David Caldwell sucks.

[Dan]

We have a proper day of college football tomorrow :drool: Can’t remember what the early game is, but we have SMU & Memphis playing in the later two games, so it’ll be nice to see them both smash some jobbers.

[Foe]

AP released by the redskins*

There’s three games in bt sport tomorrow which theyve named “CFL” for some reason.

Not sure any of them will be any good, but I’ll watch / record them anyway because FOOTBALL.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

*Washington.

[Gray Fox]

Bears to name Trubisky as the starter. How bad must Foles have been?

[Giggles]

Why are Sky not showing anything from the 6pm and 9pm Sunday games?

[Foe]

Rosen waived in one of the least surprising moves of the off season.

Someone will plonk him on their practice squad if not roster.

When will nick mullens get a shot somewhere? He must be getting sick of being a backup.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Watson got paid.

[Foe]

Kirk herbstreit blubbering like a child about social injustice.

Christ that was uncomfortable.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Shaquem Griffin cut :(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So we've only kept 2 TE's on our roster, Mandrews and Nick Boyle.

Apparently "Project Pat" has added another position and will be our 3rd TE.

FB/TE/DT/Hero :cool:

[Giggles]

Why are Sky not showing anything from the 6pm and 9pm Sunday games?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They are. They're on their new Sky Sports NFL channel.

[Giggles]

They'd want to update their listings a week before the season.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's listed on Virgin Media.

Dolphins/Patriots at 6 and Buccaneers/Saints at 9.

[Giggles]

That's good. Sky haven't bothered yet.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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So the Raiders take Bowden with a third rounder a few months ago and have now sent him and a 6th in return for a 4th rounder :cab:

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So net result of two trades is Bowden and a 6th for McMillan and a 5th.

[Pleb]

It's listed on Virgin Media.

Dolphins/Patriots at 6 and Buccaneers/Saints at 9.
Redzone then.

[Foe]

Clowney heading to Nashville.

:(

[Gray Fox]

Ian will be thrilled to know the Broncos are off to a flying start. Or rather Von Miller may be out for the season before it begins.

[Ian]

S'fine, just gives Chubb more room to beast it.

So long as his ACL doesn't fall off again, of course.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Skip Bayless showing he's a cunt yet again.

He's come and said that Dak admitting he suffered from depression after his brother committed suicide isn't leadership material and shows weakness...

[Pleb]

Football's back fellas.

Any predictions for Superb Owl? I reckon MVPat, Oldman Brady or Newton :sherlock:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Anthem Watch has gotten off to a bad start.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

David Johnson with more TD's than Hopkins this season.

Tremendous trade by BoB.

[Dan]

Well, if that first game is anything to go by Houston aren’t going to be a very good offense this season - line still letting guys through too easily, Watson was a bit rusty, and both D. Johnson’s looked slow as fuck. Badly timed penalties on both sides of the ball didn’t do them any favours either.

You’d imagine both teams will improve over the next few weeks, but it’s not an encouraging start to like without Hopkins.

Oh, and despite my boy Clyde racking up the fantasy points I though he was underwhelming too - I know he’s not Derrick Henry but he barely broke any tackles & got stopped dead on contact every time, which will probably raise some questions about how much work he should get in short yardage.

Cool to see L’Jarius Snead get a pick in his first game too, even if it was an absolute duck.

[Foe]

Yeah, I was a bit concerned with the Texans.

Fuller is a deep ball threat but a dropper, fells is old a lumbering, Akins looks promising and stills is stills. They’ve not really got a go to receiver.

David Johnson looked better than I thought he would, but he’s vastly overpaid and my opinion hasn’t changed. Terrible trade.

CEH isn’t ever going to be a bruiser of a back, you’re not going to be able to use him inside in short yardage, you really want him popping outside and weaving. He’s a great asset for them to have.

Also was a realisation that when I opted for mecole hard man over sammy Watkins in fantasy it was an error. Again. He’s never really going to break through is he? ☹️

[Dan]

#23 Iowa State & their QB Brock Purdy, who will probably be in the 2021 draft, just lost at home to unranked Louisiana, who had never beaten a ranked team on the road & (IIRC) had only beaten a ranked team at all once before, in 1996. Football is back :drool:

Louisiana do have some pretty good players though, to be fair.

Notre Dame/Duke & Florida State/Georgia Tech are probably the pick of the games on now, and then we'll have Clemson shitting on Wake Forest & Western Kentucky against Louisville, who might have the most dynamic QB/RB/WR trio in college football, and all of them are draft eligible (QB Micale Cunningham, RB Javian Hawkins & WR Tutu Atwell).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Jamie Collins is a mong.

[Foe]

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Jamie Collins is a mong.

Do you think that merits an ejection?

[Foe]

Redskins are well in the Trevor Lawrence stakes and Haskins could well be the next Josh Rosen.

They are not looking tidy.

[Giggles]

Do you think that merits an ejection?

100% it does. You just can't do that.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Do you think that merits an ejection?

Yep.

Can't make contact with a ref.

[Foe]

Common sense has not prevailed. Assume that rule was in to prevent dissent/malice. Rather than stupidly attempting to demo. Brutal sport and that’s going to generate a big fine/ban.

Adam gase time is limited.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

JK Dobbins :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Common sense has not prevailed. Assume that rule was in to prevent dissent/malice. Rather than stupidly attempting to demo. Brutal sport and that’s going to generate a big fine/ban.

Adam gase time is limited.

I think in all sports you should not be able to touch an official under any circumstance.

[Foe]

Rewatch the replay. Ref moves into him.

It’s an overzealous referee. Player attempting to demo an illegal hit on him. Ref tosses him for minimal contact (initiated by the ref) using a rule designed to protect referees safety from aggressive players.

[Giggles]

Gruden has been on the lockdown pies.

[phonics]

Rewatch the replay. Ref moves into him.

It’s an overzealous referee. Player attempting to demo an illegal hit on him. Ref tosses him for minimal contact (initiated by the ref) using a rule designed to protect referees safety from aggressive players.

He seemed rather unapologetic and unreactive when he did accidentally bump into him if so.

Surely you’d be apologising instantaneously if it was as you said.

[Foe]

He was laughing at the ridiculousness.

However, it is what it is. I don’t give a fuck about Jamie Collins. He’s stupid to put himself in that situation anyway but I personally think he’s got a really tough deal there. Call it a penalty if you want, but ejection? Fuck off.

Thought the colts would be smashing the jags here. Backed them against the spread. Rivers seems a good fit for Indy but the jags aren’t as bad as everyone assumed, myself included.

[Foe]

Hot rod :(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hot rod :(

Should have gone to Specsavers.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Colts/Rivers suck.

[Foe]

17-0 the eagles were up. What in the fuck happened to wentz?

Colts looked bright early but have just faded. Going to be a tight season across the board I think. The jags, lions and redskins showing a bit of fight here.

Browns can’t really be judged vs lamar, bears need to switch to foles ASAP and Carolina are competitive.

Early doors.

Patriots are still absolutely horrid to watch though. Just a grind.

[Foe]

I need to shut the fuck up until games go final. Sheesh.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

D'Andre Swift :face:

[Giggles]

The Lions are some jokers.

[Gray Fox]

17-0 the eagles were up. What in the fuck happened to wentz?

Never going to go well when you're sacked 8 times.
Even so, if you can't beat The Football Team...

[niko_cee]

Whilst I'm not really that surprised, I did think it was a bit off that more wasn't made of the fact that the second Patriots TD was clearly not a touchdown and that it was fairly obvious, from all angles, immediately, that that was the case.

[phonics]

I’ve just seen a high school play where they ‘pitched’ it 30 times then scored.

I’ll ask again, would it not be effective to actually play an NFL game like a Rugby match on running plays?

[Giggles]

I’ve just seen a high school play where they ‘pitched’ it 30 times then scored.

I’ll ask again, would it not be effective to actually play an NFL game like a Rugby match on running plays?

You'll see one pitch downfield the odd time unless it's desperation stakes. It's just far too risky in a completely different game to rugby.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

No.

If you fuck it up a defender could just scoop it up and run it back.

Do lateral plays happen? Yes, but they're usually saved for the last few seconds in a game when you're down by a score but a little too far out to just chuck it deep.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ed Reed used to try laterals on his interceptions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB21lXIV2zc

[Gray Fox]

This is of course not counting possibly the most famous lateral of all time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXcGNVpblQ4

[Giggles]

14:30 :cool:


https://youtu.be/YWKULiNY-VE

[Gray Fox]

So after last week giving up 8 sacks to The Football Team, this week the Eagles O-line has a much easier time of it. They play the Rams who as we know, have absolutely nobody to worry to QB.

So in what may become a weekly feature, how many sacks does Wentz take today? Winner gets a virtual cookie.

[Ian]

Well that was frustrating for Denver. Driskel didn't always do himself any favours but the protection for him was pretty poor.

[niko_cee]

Game on the line down is definitely the time to not bother blocking the guy running straight at your QB.

Didn't see much of THE FOOTBALL TEAM but the bits I did looked like they had some hilarious coverage (or lack thereof) going on. Oh, I thought you had him . . .

*Hopkins saunters unopposed into the endzone*

[Giggles]

Has everyone stopped watching this season?

[niko_cee]

Everyone's probably called it a day after that Cowboys comeback.

What the fuck were Atlanta doing with that onside kick? Why didn't one of their players just drop on it before it went 10? There were plenty of them around.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Has everyone stopped watching this season?

Most of us talk about it on Discord.

[Giggles]

Sound.

[Gray Fox]

Everyone's probably called it a day after that Cowboys comeback.

What the fuck were Atlanta doing with that onside kick? Why didn't one of their players just drop on it before it went 10? There were plenty of them around.

The talk is that the players were unaware that they could actually jump on it before it went 10 yards. Same head coach that bottled the big lead in the Superbowl too.

[Ian]

Denver's growing injury list. :drool:

[niko_cee]

The talk is that the players were unaware that they could actually jump on it before it went 10 yards.

See, I was wondering about this, as that's what it looked like and then I was questioning whether there was some rule I was unaware of. Laughable shit really, but then, Julio Jones dropping gimme touchdowns doesn't help either.

[Ian]

Blake Bortles IN.

Season saved!

[Foe]

Deion sanders moving into coaching at college at Jackson state.

Yep. No idea either.

[Foe]

LSU, Oklahoma, etc

[Dan]

More like OkLOLhoma, am I right?

LSU showing the expected regression as well - shockingly a guy who's been a backup for 4 years isn't as good as the guy who just had the greatest QB season in college football history.

EDIT: Defence looking solid though, even with Stingley out, although MSU's center isn't doing his team any favours with all the dodgy snaps & Costello looks a bit questionable.

[Foe]

Costello could’ve been picked all three times there from his own end zone.

The offence looks a shadow. No brady, no burrow, no elite receivers, no moss.

Apparently one of the freshman receivers is good. Not obvious as yet who..

[Dan]

Osirus Mitchell has played well for MSU so far, but not much else going right for them.

LSU receiver is probably Kayshon Boutte, as I've heard good things about his potential, although they do also have the second highest ranked TE ever in Arik Gilbert, who's also starting for them as a true freshman & has megahype with dynasty/devy Twitter.

[Foe]

Well, that looked easy.

Crazy how different teams look year to year.

Arkansas have Felipe franks now and gerogia who lost their transfer qb might be in trouble.

Your man from QB1 is starting at wake forest again though which is good. Sam hu-something?

[Foe]

That was lucky as fuck. Manziel esque throw it up and hope for the best.

Manziel had mike Evans, Brennan gets lucky.

[Dan]

Sam 'Shartman' Hartmann :cool:

Georgia might be the most chaotic QB room in college football - lose Fromm & have Jamie Newman transfer in then opt out, and JT Daniels transfer in but get hurt, only for the third guy who's been there all along to end up as the game one starter & look like a shambles.

LSU starting to get some rhythm going now - Arik Gilbert with a couple of big plays too.

[Foe]

Arik Gilbert is the one I was thinking of. Herbstreit was going crazy over him.

Brennan looks like a qb that should’ve just transferred to the la tech to play.

[Dan]

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Oh boy :vomit:

The offensive line play in this game is giving them a run for their money though.

[Dan]

So today we had:
- Oklahoma lose to Kansas State for the second year in a row, this time throwing away a 20+pt lead
- Texas squeak past Texas Tech in overtime, weeks after Texas Tech almost lost to Houston Baptist.
- Georgia have to go to their fourth QB to beat Arkansas
- LSU losing to Mississippi State

But don't worry, Alabama are steamrolling Missouri. Think we can safely assume COVID hasn't actually changed anything & it'll still be Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State cruising to the playoffs & stomping whichever jobber team gets to join them in the semi finals.

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Man, I've been on the Miami/D'Eriq King hype train this offseason, so seeing how they've started the year has been really encouraging, but holy fuck Florida State are such a shambles. You hoped it would get better with Mike Norvell in there now after all the success he had at Memphis, but he didn't even get to week one without a load of problems, then they lose to Georgia Tech despite blocking three kicks, and they look garbage again so far tonight. Something is really broken in there.

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That was after already running two consecutive reverses on the previous drive that both also got immediately smashed for huge losses. They're embarrassing themselves.

[Foe]

Jadeveon clowney what are you doing?!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Trubisky finally benched.

[niko_cee]

Does Shaun Gayle have some sort of weird back patch of hair or is that a shadow or something?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

God I love the Falcons.

[Ian]

Denver off to a shambolic start here.

[niko_cee]

What a DKhead.

[Ian]

It's a pity the Denver D never gets off the fucking field because I think they're decent and Harris has been great today.

[Dan]

Our secondary is a mess - just racking up flags on every important down. Kamara & the O-line just carrying the team at the minute.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hasn't started too well but Duvernay :cool:

Edit: Mahomes absolutely fisted us.

Our offence wasn't great, especially Mandrews who couldn't catch anything today but our defence which looked like a serious unit in the first two games looked horrific. We blitz, Mahomes found a man. We sat off, Mahomes found a hole etc etc.

[Ian]

Another season-ending injury for Denver, this time Jurrell Casey.

What're our options liable to be for the top few picks in the '21 draft?

[Gray Fox]

The '21 draft could be a complete mess. Could be a lot of shots in the dark there.

However if the Broncos do tank, they could add in Trevor. He'd be a big shot in the arm. They have great receiving talent and a decent run game. Defence isn't bad either but it just can't get off the field.

[Ian]

I don't think we'd have challenged to win the division this year but if everybody had been fit I thought we had an outside chance of a wildcard.

The o-line needs the most work but every other unit has some talent in it. So many key injuries though. It's rough.

[Foe]

Titans Steelers post poned.

Guess who has Derrick Henry and James Conner in fantasy?

:moop:

[Ian]

Broncos / Jets was a bit sloppy as you might expect but nice to get the first win on the board and I thought Rypien looked pretty good. A bit unlucky on one interception but the Jeudy TD could have been a pick another day so maybe that all balanced itself. I liked how quickly he reacted when the run play broke down and he made sure to get ahead of Gordon for a block for what led to the last TD as well.

[Dan]

He was a draft twitter hype boy when he came out so it was cool to see him on the field. Only watched the highlights but it seems like he was pretty much what he was expected to be - bit of a weak arm, pretty accurate underneath, decent athlete & not quite up to NFL speed mentally.

That Darnold run was filthy - think that’s three weeks running he’s pulled a properly special play out of his arse. You really have to wonder what he could be if he wasn’t in the worst situation imaginable.

Also, shoutout to Tim Patrick. Nobody ever talks about him but the guy can play. Gotta be one of the best depth receivers in the league.

[Ian]

The only filthy thing about that Darnold run was the defending. :sick:

And yeah Tim Patrick is good, I think with Sutton out he'll end up a pretty important player for us this year.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cam has 'Rona.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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[Gray Fox]

Top of the Division. :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Jesus.

[Pleb]

Mullens Pick 6 was a thing of beauty.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

lol at the refs screwing the Patriots for once.

[Foe]

Cousin is 19 and a student in Texas at A&M. Got a ticket for the Florida game at the weekend.

More jealous than you can imagine. Shame it’s not filled to the brim like usual but still great.

[Foe]

Live on bt sport espn right now. Mon.

[Foe]

What a win.

[Dan]

I was out last night so only saw the first half, but that will probably torpedo Florida now. Considering how TAMU looked against Alabama last week, and the Clemson/Miami score, it doesn’t seem like that gap between the big three & everyone else has gotten any smaller. Looks like Georgia might be the team to be sacrificed in the playoffs at this rate - definitely seems like they’re still the team with the best chance of getting one of them, especially if Stetson Bennett can be Jake Fromm or JT Daniels can get healthy & play like a 5 star QB.

Also, RIP LSU, who might end up unranked this week, and shoutout to Arkansas, who look like they might actually be competitive for the first time in a while.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Patriots/Broncos OFF.

Titans facility is shut down too.

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Dak's foot was facing the wrong way.

[Dan]

Watching the Tennessee game & Jarrett Guarantano has just throw two pick sixes almost back to back :uhoh: It’s amazing Tennesse can’t get anyone better than him, they’d probably be pretty good if they had someone even vaguely competent.

Unsurprisingly, he’s been benched (hardly the first time).

THE BACKUP IMMEDIATELY THREW A PICK AS WELL :roflol:

[Foe]

Louisville Norte dame is on sky sports nfl right now, for anyone interested

[Dan]

Louisville Norte dame is on sky sports nfl right now, for anyone interested

Should've been watching UCF/Memphis instead - as you might expect, they're just going up & down the field on each other. Over 1000 combined yards of offense & they haven't even hit the fourth quarter yet :D


I was out last night so only saw the first half, but that will probably torpedo Florida now. Considering how TAMU looked against Alabama last week, and the Clemson/Miami score, it doesn’t seem like that gap between the big three & everyone else has gotten any smaller. Looks like Georgia might be the team to be sacrificed in the playoffs at this rate - definitely seems like they’re still the team with the best chance of getting one of them, especially if Stetson Bennett can be Jake Fromm or JT Daniels can get healthy & play like a 5 star QB.

Also, RIP LSU, who might end up unranked this week, and shoutout to Arkansas, who look like they might actually be competitive for the first time in a while.

Currently leading 26-14 midway through the fourth quarter against Ole Miss, who put up 48pts against Alabama last week.

Arkansas, NC State & Boston College might be three of the most impressive coaching jobs in the Power 5 at this point of the season. Also worth mentioning Liberty, who just beat an ACC team for the first time ever to go 5-0 (they knocked off Syracuse, who have been a disaster so far), and BYU, who genuinely might go undefeated this season as their schedule is pretty weak since they had to reschedule basically all of it as they're independent so the best team they'll play all year is Houston, who they just beat.

Speaking of BYU, Zach Wilson has been on fire - before the season I had him down as returning to school next year but if he keeps playing like this he'll be a day two guy (someone on ESPN just had him as QB2 behind Trev, who just MURDERED Georgia Tech in a half). Bo Nix, on the other hand, continues to cement his position in the Jarrett Guarantano Disaster Zone.

EDIT: Holy shit Matt Corral threw 6 INTs today, two of which were pick sixes :D No wonder Arkansas ended up winning that one

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Melvin Gordon is inactive due to strep throat.

Imagine not being able to play because your throat is a bit sore...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cam finally jumped on a fumble against the Broncos.

[Ian]

Poor Cam. :harold:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Poor Cam. :harold:

It's glorious.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Even though I have Jeudy in fantasy, I want the Broncos to beat Cam's Patriots purely with field goals.

[Ian]

Fucking hell having to take all those field goals is about to cost us.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Would also help if Drew Lock would stop throwing it deep into double coverage.

[Ian]

This is a top-tier bottle-job we're aiming for here. Attempted absolutely nothing when there was a big comfy lead to fall back on and now it's closer we're trying all sorts of mad deep throws. For fuck's sake.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Get fucked Cam.

[Ian]

Thank fuck, was convinced we were about to chuck that.

The defence is pretty good though, if we can get a bit more production out of the offence then there's potential.

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Buttception? Butt Pick?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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It's Tua Time.

[Foe]

Christ that cowboys game was a tough watch.

Kyler is just a regen of Lamar isn’t he? Cowboys wideouts did their best to help Prescotts contract negotiations...

[phonics]

Sharing this just for the second clip where an absolute UNIT destroys a ref

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Cracking move.

[Foe]

Vikings giving the season the heav ho

Can they ditch cousins at the end of the year and remain in the Trevor stakes?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://overthecap.com/what-can-the-vikings-do-with-kirk-cousins/

A trade would be their best option.

I'd imagine they'd try to do an Osweiler type trade where they give a team some draft picks to absorb his cap before cutting him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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ffs

[phonics]

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[niko_cee]

There's tanking, and then there's the sort of shit that should see the entire division demoted to, I dunno, the CFL or something.

Washington's comedy 2 point conversion last week, now this, it's all getting a bit unseemly.

[Foe]

Both of those teams are really bad.

Dallas aside, they shouldn’t win a game out of division.

[Pleb]

Dallas should really be TANKING years ago.

[Foe]

They’ve got too much talent on offence to do it effectively.

3 or 4 very competent receivers, and a qb who knows how to manage a game. Zeke is struggling right now but he’s elite too. If they fail, it’s on the coaching.

Although the defence is absolute shit.

[Ian]

I looked up to see what that Phonics Tweet was about.

That doesn't even look like a trip, it's like he's just run out of puff and fallen down.

[Foe]

Trying to run faster than your legs will take you. Like a fat kid running downhill towards an ice cream van.

[Ian]

Fat kids don't make rookie mistakes like falling down when there's ice cream at stake, fool.

[niko_cee]

Whichever way you spin it it's pretty embarrassing for a professional athlete.

[Foe]

It’s embarrassing for a non-athlete person above the age of ten.

[phonics]

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I looked up to see what that Phonics Tweet was about.

That doesn't even look like a trip, it's like he's just run out of puff and fallen down.

It's such a Daniel Jones play.

[Foe]

Jaylen waddle is crocked. Annoying.

Since when was Mac jones a competent qb?

[Foe]

Penn state with the classic “scored by accident rather than taking a knee” and then go on to lose. #8 no more.

[Dan]

Yeah, that whole thing was fantastic. The diving conversion from Penix was one hell of a play. I also didn’t realise they were without Journey Brown this season, which sucks.

Kinda surprised to see Michigan & Cincinnati both win so handily, but at least Ohio State showed up eventually.

Also, Myles Brennan might have spent two years sitting behind Joe Burrow just to lose his job to a true freshman :D

Might do a top 25 later since I’ve got nothing better to do with my Sunday.

[Foe]

Remember folks the games kick off at 5pm today. Clocks rolled back for us, but not in america

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Baker throwing a pick (with his first pass) and OBJ attempting to tackle the defender and injuring himself in the process is such a Browns thing.

[Foe]

Roughing the passer against the falcons with an absolute monster hit/sack. What?

Are people allowed to tackle QBs at all any more?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Roughing the passer against the falcons with an absolute monster hit/sack. What?

Are people allowed to tackle QBs at all any more?

The only reason I can think of is that whole body weight on the QB thing.

Looked completely fine to me though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Falcons :lol:

[Foe]

Tg3 :(

[Ian]

This game is fucking frustrating.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Melvin Gordon...

[Ian]

Good work Gordon, you absolute cretin.

[Ian]

It's frustrating to be keeping Mahomes pretty quiet but just finding so many other ways to chuck away points, drives, etc.

[Ian]

Chad fucking Henne. The final indignity.

[Ian]

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[Gray Fox]

Baker throwing a pick (with his first pass) and OBJ attempting to tackle the defender and injuring himself in the process is such a Browns thing.

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His last game in Cleveland?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Ugh.

[Foe]

Trevor Lawrence has Covid-19 so is our, so we are going to find out how good DJ U is.

If he’s as good as he’s hyped to be, we will get confirmation Clemson will be a force for 2 or 3 more seasons minimum.

[Dan]

He’ll be good. They’ll just run a slightly different offence - bit more Etienne, sprinkle in some more QB runs & they’ll probably go deep a decent amount as he’s got a cannon. I doubt we’ll even notice much of a difference against the ACC, will just be an issue if Trev isn’t back for Notre Dame.

BT Sport has a decent run of games tonight - Cincinnati/Memphis, LSU/Auburn then either Mississippi State/Alabama or Penn State/Ohio State :drool:

[Foe]

Yeah, spotted penn state v Ohio state. Going to record that to see how Justin fields looks.

[Dan]

He’ll be good. They’ll just run a slightly different offence - bit more Etienne, sprinkle in some more QB runs & they’ll probably go deep a decent amount as he’s got a cannon. I doubt we’ll even notice much of a difference against the ACC, will just be an issue if Trev isn’t back for Notre Dame.

BT Sport has a decent run of games tonight - Cincinnati/Memphis, LSU/Auburn then either Mississippi State/Alabama or Penn State/Ohio State :drool:

Oops, Clemson trailing 27-10 approaching halftime. Phil Jurkovec boosting his stock & reminding Notre Dame what they could have been starting instead of generic college QB #74637 Ian Book.

[Foe]

When do Clemson concede 27 points? That’s on the defence surely?

They were 1.03 this morning on the money line. 1.03 without their starting qb. Against BC who are not a force.

[Dan]

Yeah, BC had a 93 yard fumble returned for a TD, and they scored on one drive after they faked a QB sneak with their field goal team, so they've been pulling out all the stops, but Clemson are back to 28-26 coming to the end of the third quarter & they have the ball, so could be time for the ominous music.

[Foe]

Yeah I’ve shoved it on espn player (that I thought I’d cancelled)

Bc qb does not look bad and they’re moving it pretty well. Closer game than anyone would’ve imagined.

[Dan]

Cincinnati seem to get the least hype of the major AAC teams, but they've stomped Memphis & SMU in consecutive games & they look like they might be the only one with a defence. Ahmad Garnder is a stud, and they have a handful of other guys who will probably get drafted too. I'm still not sure where I stand on Desmond Ridder, but he's definitely draftable & plenty good enough to keep them competitive against pretty much anyone.

They have Houston next week & UCF two weeks after, so you'd imagine if they can take those they might end up running the table (do also have Temple left to be fair). Imagine if we have Cincinnati & BYU both going undefeated & having to be talked about as legit playoff contenders :D

This Clemson game looks like it's going down to the wire. Travis Etienne now the all time ACC rushing leader, and he's definitely got better as a receiver. Dude is gonna be a first rounder, especially when he runs a 4.35 forty.

[Foe]

He’s a stud.

CEH and Deandre Swift showing exactly why. He’ll go in that 25-35 range I’d imagine.

Fast, can catch, smart, dedicated.

[Dan]

I have a bad feeling he'll end up a Falcon :uhoh:

Clemson hold on in the end, while Michigan immediately shit the bed after providing some brief hope they might be okay this year.

[Dan]

Confirmed that Trevor will be out for the Notre Dame game next week. Should've been expected given the ACC have a mandatory 10 day window for people to sit out after a positive diagnosis, but at least everyone will get a week to practice saying Uiagalelei I suppose. They're gonna need to know for the next couple of years.

[Foe]

Can imagine chase Brice for one whiff of him in practice before jumping ship to Duke.

LSU must be one of the worst defending national champions ever.

[Dan]

Yeah, LSU look really bad on both sides of the ball. You can kinda forgive the offence since they lost almost literally the entire thing, but it's surprising to see the defence so bad when they do still have some dudes there.

The Clemson QB room for next week is probably a billion points in scrabble - DJ Uiagalelei & Taisun Phommachanh.

EDIT: Congratulations Texas on ensuring that the Big 12 doesn't have anyone in the playoffs this year.

[Dan]

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What the fuck is this? :D

Truly amazing.

[Gray Fox]

A shame they pulled it back on review. But #71 is the hero of the play.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

#71 :cool:

What a don.

[Dan]

Yeah, they should’ve let it stand out of principle & credited the score to #71

[Dan]

This is also stupid.

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Meanwhile, in the Florida/Missouri game...

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[Dan]

Top 25 is sorted.

TIER 1 - CHAMPIONSHIP CONTENDERS
1. Clemson
2. Alabama
3. Ohio State

TIER 2 - CHAMPIONSHIP LONGSHOTS
4. Georgia
5. Notre Dame
6. Florida
7. Wisconsin

TIER 3 - PLAYOFF CONTENDERS
8. Cincinnati
9. BYU
10. Oregon
11. USC

TIER 4 - PLAYOFF OUTSIDERS
12. Penn State
13. Texas A&M
14. Miami
15. Oklahoma State
16. Oklahoma
17. North Carolina
18. Texas
19. Arizona State
20. Washington

TIER 5 - BEST OF THE REST
21. Michigan
22. SMU
23. Memphis
24. UCF
25. Auburn

TIER 5 - HONOURABLE MENTIONS (no order)
Liberty
Coastal Carolina
Marshall
Boise State
Army
Louisiana
indiana
Purdue
Northwestern

I've ranked the PAC-12 teams at the bottom of their respective tiers as they've not actually played yet, but those are the buckets I'd expect them to fall in over the next few weeks.

[Foe]

Great start for Lamar.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Looks like Ronnie Stanley has broken his leg/ankle :(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cam Newton :harold:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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:cab:

[Ian]

You can't not love somebody punching a dude with a helmet on.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I do love how the defender just couldn't be bothered to react.

No point in getting a broken hand yourself.

[Ian]

Also got a lot of time for the fella who ends up upside down like he's trying to lock in some sort of Octopus Stretch.

[Ian]

:rave:

[Gray Fox]

I hope the Chargers never change.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They've cut away from Redzone to show an Ian Wright documentary...

And it's back.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Out of our game against the Colts.

[Foe]

Notre dame Clemson is on sky sports nfl tonight.

Normally bt but sky must have access to either the acc or notre dame

[Dan]

PAC-12 kicking off now although they’ve already had to cancel two of the games, so not ideal. USC against Arizona State is now & should be the most interesting game, then we also have Georgia/Florida in the middle set of games, which might decide who ends up in the last playoff slot.

[Foe]

Yeah. Interested to watch more Kyle trask.

Florida are pretty good and got humbled by a really good A&M win. Be interesting if A&M run the table and then are compared against a strong Florida team, whom they beat.

[Foe]

Tuddy on the first play for Georgia.

Good start. Terrible defence.

[Foe]

No chance harbaugh is at Ann Arbor next year.

Losing to Michigan state, again, last week and just got smashed by Indiana. RIP big blue.

[Dan]

Michigan & Penn State have both embarrassed themselves so far this season. Neither will be ranked when I do the next update on my top 25.

USC scraped by on late game heroics today, but Arizona State looked like they'll be able to give anyone in the PAC-12 a game again this year. Also, fucking hell Georgia :uhoh: Letting Justin Fields go looks worse & worse every week (not that they'd have used him effectively anyway if the stuff they did with him when they did have him was anything to go by).

[Dan]

Well, I guess Notre Dame are favourites for the final playoff spot now, although to be honest we should really have a play in game between them & Florida. Wisconsin & TAMU might be in contention as well. Can't wait for the rematch in the ACC Championship game when Trevor's back & Clemson beat them by 30.

[Dan]

Top 25 is sorted.

TIER 1 - CHAMPIONSHIP CONTENDERS
1. Clemson
2. Alabama
3. Ohio State

TIER 2 - CHAMPIONSHIP LONGSHOTS
4. Georgia
5. Notre Dame
6. Florida
7. Wisconsin

TIER 3 - PLAYOFF CONTENDERS
8. Cincinnati
9. BYU
10. Oregon
11. USC

TIER 4 - PLAYOFF OUTSIDERS
12. Penn State
13. Texas A&M
14. Miami
15. Oklahoma State
16. Oklahoma
17. North Carolina
18. Texas
19. Arizona State
20. Washington

TIER 5 - BEST OF THE REST
21. Michigan
22. SMU
23. Memphis
24. UCF
25. Auburn

TIER 5 - HONOURABLE MENTIONS (no order)
Liberty
Coastal Carolina
Marshall
Boise State
Army
Louisiana
indiana
Purdue
Northwestern

I've ranked the PAC-12 teams at the bottom of their respective tiers as they've not actually played yet, but those are the buckets I'd expect them to fall in over the next few weeks.

Update for this week:

TIER 1 - CHAMPIONSHIP CONTENDERS
1. Alabama (+1)
2. Clemson (-1)
3. Ohio State (-)

TIER 2 - PLAYOFF CONTENDERS
4. Notre Dame (+1)
5. Florida (+1)
6. Texas A&M (+7)
7. Cincinnati (+1)
8. BYU (+1)
9. Oregon (+1)
10. Wisconsin (-3)
11. USC (-)

TIER 3 - PLAYOFF OUTSIDERS
12. Iowa State (NR)
13. Northwestern (NR)
14. Oklahoma State (+1)
15. Oklahoma (+1)
16. Georgia (-12)
17. Indiana (NR)
18. Miami (-4)
19. Texas (-1)
20. Liberty (NR)
21. Coastal Carolina (NR)
22. Marshall (NR)

TIER 4 - BEST OF THE REST
23. North Carolina (-6)
24. SMU (-1)
25. Auburn (-)

HONOURABLE MENTIONS (no order)
Nevada
Army
Louisiana
Appalachian State

I nearly kept Clemson at the top despite the loss, as I still think they're the best team when Trevor's there, but you'd have to imagine that they'll end up as the #3 seed for the playoffs now, in which case they'll have to beat Ohio State & Alabama back to back, which might be enough to do it. I kept them ahead of OSU as I do think they'd be the favourites if they end up playing in the playoff semi finals - I'm not sure OSU are as good as they were last season.

The next tier is a massive bunch as, while Notre Dame & Florida are the clear favourites for the final playoff spot right now, they'll both have to play Conference Championship games against someone in the top tier, and if they both get crushed in those games it'll probably be enough to open the door for the PAC-12 if Oregon or USC manage to go unbeaten. Texas A&M could end up with an outside shot if their only loss is to Alabama, and Wisconsin have a shot if they can win the Big 10, while Cincinnati & BYU could be in the conversation if they stay undefeated & things break their way.

The Big 12 continues to do its best to be a complete mess, and they're inevitably all going to combine to ruin each other's chances, but if one of them can get their shit together they might have a tiny chance at sneaking in as the Conference Champion. Miami have a tiny chance if they can find a way into the ACC title game, and with Liberty knocking off a second ACC team this week I felt it was time to give the unbeaten small schools their spots. Indiana are the hype team of the Big 10, but they're in Ohio State's side of the conference, whereas Northwestern are on the Wisconsin side, so they've got a better chance at actually making the title game.

[Ian]

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[Dan]

This might be the worst slate of college games I can remember - all of the interesting games have been postponed & we’re left with stuff like Penn State/Nebraska, Purdue/Northwestern & Notre Dame/Boston College as the most exciting options on the card.

[Foe]

Arkansas vs Florida might be interesting for the Felipe franks stakes (assuming he’s playing)

At what point does trask become a draft qb contender. Must be working his way towards day 2 now? He’s fucking massive so got the right physical attributes and he’s a fighter as a walk on.

He’s a bit fucked with Lawrence, fields and trey lance out there alongside the raft of qbs drafted the last few years.

[Ian]

I am (possibly deluding myself) telling myself Denver have a lot of talent, especially when you include all the injured players, but today has been bad.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I am (possibly deluding myself) telling myself Denver have a lot of talent, especially when you include all the injured players, but today has been bad.
Lock has looked like he can't really be arsed.

At least that's what I've been getting from the bits Redzone have shown.

[Ian]

I dunno what to make of Lock but today he hasn't even done his "crank it up when it's a shit position in the fourth quarter" bit so if he's not doing that then I'm not sure what he offers.

I suspect we stick with him for the season unless he goes properly off the deep end and then see if he shows significant signs of improvement before deciding what to do next off-season.

I know Sutton being out is a bummer but there's enough there that he could be doing better.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Hopkins is unreal.

Catches over 3 men whilst one of those has him in a headlock.

[Ian]

Yeah that's a daft touchdown.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That game was awful and further showcases why Greg Roman needs to be fired.

He refuses to adapt (last week was the first time he's done it in his life) and it makes us not only more predictable but he's actively not playing into Lamar's strengths.

It's like last year he borrowed someone else's playbook or had help in crafting it to make it play into Lamar's strengths but this year he was determined to go back to his bullshit play calls.

It's a torrential storm, we have a center who can't snap the ball and on a crucial 4th and 1 he calls a wildcat to Mark Ingram who is clearly still injured. Even if that ball had been snapped correctly we weren't getting the first down. The Pats knew how to play, just run the ball as it's not going to be easy to pass in that weather but Roman seems obsessed into trying to mould Lamar into a pocket passer who needs to throw the ball 40-50 times.

Also, I don't know if Roman is actively telling Lamar not to break out of the pocket or if Lamar is trying to prove to people he can pass but there were times when Lamar would have had an easy first down with his legs but kept it. He'd only really scramble out if the Pats put pressure on him which wasn't that much as they were determined not to rush the passer as much so they can keep an extra man or two downfield.

That Roman can't see that our team is so much more expansive when we run first (and has been since Flacco was here) is insane. It opens up so many more options.

Oh and Dobbins and Gus look so much better than Ingram right now (he was clearly still hurt last night) yet Roman seems to actively hate them and will lean on Ingram so much more.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Face raked, ouch.

[Lofty]

Face rake or not that's a wank wrap up for the money he's on.

[Foe]

Joe Burrow out.

They didn’t show a replay but seems like a knee ligament.

Shame.

[Foe]

Yep. That replay does not look good at all.

Done for the season.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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lol.

[Ian]

Uh oh, Fitzmagic is on. :uhoh:

[Ian]

I bloody love Justin Simmons.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Christ this halftime show is shit.

[phonics]

Are Washington Football Club and their quarterback with a false leg going to win the NFC East?

The whole division should get some sort of punishment for being collectively awful.