The NFL Thread

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001101640/article/tua-tagovailoas-scan-shows-fractured-hip-has-healed

I think with this and the fact that Rivers is officially done the Dolphins are going to have to trade up to second/third to get him.

[bruhnaldo]

Nope!

[bruhnaldo]

:)

[Dan]

Obviously it will come down to what their own doctors actually think when they do their own medical checks on him, but the expectation has been that they'd end up trading up to for him anyway, and since they can outbid anyone who tries to jump them the only real threat is if Detroit decide to just take him themselves.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

In a move that surprises no Baltimore fan, Tony Jefferson has been cut.

He had regressed slightly at the start of the season and when he got injured Chuck Clark came in (who was given a nice new contract) and performed a hell of a lot better.

[Dan]

Redskins have released Josh Norman & Paul Richardson as well, and the Texans have cut Vernon Hargreaves.

It’s that time of year; everyone’s clearing money for free agency.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Have they cut Jordan Reed yet? If not, why not?

[Gray Fox]

He'd get a concussion on the way out of the building.

[Dan]

Not yet, but it's going to happen - they'd save something like $8.5m by letting him go. He should retire, really.

[Foe]

Myles Garrett sticking by calling out mason Rudolph as the perpetrator.

Pretty mixed reaction. Some calling for Garrett to be suspended for the accusation which is a bit mental. Unless you’ve heard all the footage available and actually studied the lip sync you really can’t comment.

Ugly though. Smart from Myles not to talk more about it before being reinstated though as the NFL would’ve just left him suspended to avoid it and claimed it was because of the helmet swing.

Also not heard much about the Antonio brown contract stuff.

Roll on the draft.

[Dan]

Combine in two weeks, and there’s a genuine chance we see multiple guys run 4.2s in the 40 :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Get me excited about pass rushers and middle linebackers.

I can't see us selecting another position in the first.

[Dan]

EDGE is pretty much Chase Young, then a big drop to AJ Epenesa (Iowa), K'Lavon Chaisson (LSU) & Yetur Gross Matos (Penn State), then you're pretty much just hoping. There are a few other guys who seem to be thought of as day two guys, like Darrell Taylor (Tennessee), Kenny Willekes (Michigan State), Bradlee Anae (Utah) & Curtis Weaver (Boise State), but in terms of bigger guys that might work for Baltimore, maybe Nick Coe (Auburn)? He's a defensive lineman who plays inside & on the edge, and seems to be listed as a linebacker on the combine list.

As for the proper linebackers, it's pretty similar. Isaiah Simmons, then Patrick Queen (LSU) or Kenneth Murray (Oklahoma), then take your pick from a bunch of maybes - Malik Harrison (Ohio State) & Troy Dye (Oregon) are probably the two most notable, but there's always depth at linebacker if you just want someone to come in & do a job.

There's been a lot of Kenneth Murray to Baltimore in mocks, and then usually receiver - Laviska Shenault in that offence would be filthy :uhoh:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It depends what we do in free agency too.

We're projected to have around $45m and speculation is growing that we're after Clowney.

[Dan]

Cardale Jones to Eli Rogers is OP for the XFL.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mclolin.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cardale is really fun to watch at times.

[Dan]

Defenders are the best team in the league, surely?

[Giggles]

Turned on, seen crowd, turned off. I know it’s a better standard than college and some of us watch that, but with zero atmosphere it’s a tough ask.

[Dan]

Marc Trestman should be fired. The Vipers are awful - no offensive TDs through two games :D

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Just fuck off.

[Pleb]

Vipers really are the Bungles/LOLphins/Jets of the XFL.

[Dan]

Landry Jones' rushing efforts are inspiring dads everywhere to believe that maybe they too can be XFL QBs. I know he has a bad knee but he's running like his kneecap is on the back of his leg, not the front.

Maybe his passing efforts are doing the same thing, actually.

[Dan]

Brees is back :cool:

[Foe]

Saw that and delighted.

Makes it interesting for Bridgewater and taysom hill.

Neither will really want to hang about as a backup but could see hill leveraging himself to a 3-4mill 1 year deal to hang about. Teddy’s a goner unless they told him he was the Brees successful when he whiffed in Miami last off season.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If anyone thinks Hill is a franchise QB needs shooting.

[Dan]

Apparently Teddy is looking for $30m a year :D

If he gets that then Dak will get $50m & Mahomes will get 50% of the team.

[Foe]

If anyone thinks Hill is a franchise QB needs shooting.

I actually think if you plugged him into an offence and asked him to throw he wouldn’t be that bad. He’s a backup weapon but definitely a better thrower than he gets credit for. He was great at BYU, ignoring all the knee injuries (which is strange as since becoming a pro he’s just a wrecking ball).

[Foe]

Apparently Teddy is looking for $30m a year :D

If he gets that then Dak will get $50m & Mahomes will get 50% of the team.

Yeah good luck with that. The browns have a qb and so do the Texans so your chance is gone for that bud.

[Dan]

I actually think if you plugged him into an offence and asked him to throw he wouldn’t be that bad. He’s a backup weapon but definitely a better thrower than he gets credit for. He was great at BYU, ignoring all the knee injuries (which is strange as since becoming a pro he’s just a wrecking ball).

I love the tweet that showed Mo Sanu’s QB stats against Taysom’s.

[Gray Fox]

So it looks like we're moving towards a 17 game regular season in 2022. Also moving the number of play-off teams from 12 to 14 and only giving a bye to one team in each conference.

I get that more football > less football, but I'm not sure I agree with the play-off decision.

[Giggles]

The meaningful regular season was one of the best things about the NFL so it's an awful decision.

[Dan]

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Love this. Might actually be the best, most directly translatable drill in the whole combine, to be honest.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Greg Robinson has been a naughty boy.

[Dan]

ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX POINT NINE POUNDS :cab:

Potentially looking at 20 years in prison.

[Foe]

He’s an idiot. Interesting to know what went through his head.

[Gray Fox]

A lot of weed fumes.

[Gray Fox]

We're also about to be back to teams only being able to use one tag(Franchise or transition) per off season.

[Dan]

Have they cut Jordan Reed yet? If not, why not?

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There it is.

[Gray Fox]

He was still in the concussion protocol until his release, from a hit in pre-season.

[Dan]

While we're on the subject of high profile players who were hurt all last season, just got cut & might retire:

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Hopefully he gets healthy & decides to come back. Clearly doesn't want to call it quits & he'd probably still be an elite player if he could get past the injuries.

[Gray Fox]

Remember kids, take care yo' bread and yo' chicken.

[Dan]

Jamar :cool:

The Tampa Bay Vipers are the worst team in the league by miles so far.


Jesus, it took about two minutes for the Vipers to decide whether they wanted to take a 10 second runoff or not. Marc Trestman is doing a fantastic job outing himself as a terrible head coach.

This whole offence has just been an utter disaster.


Marc Trestman should be fired. The Vipers are awful - no offensive TDs through two games :D

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Just fuck off.

And now it's time for your weekly reminder that Marc Trestman is terrible & should be fired.

They have the Defenders next week too :harold:

[Dan]

Cardale Jones 1/5 for 0 yards & 2 INTs so far & Defenders 14-0 down to the Wildcats :|

[Gray Fox]

There's talk flying about of a potential Eli situation with Burrow. Could well change about the top of the board a bit if true.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We've made Wink Martindale the highest paid DC.

[Dan]

There's talk flying about of a potential Eli situation with Burrow. Could well change about the top of the board a bit if true.

I think this happened a couple of years ago with the Browns, and probably several other times. I feel like everything that comes out around this time of year is down to somebody trying to get leverage to swing the draft their way - see all the ‘Miami likes Justin Herbert as much as Tua’ or ‘maybe Detroit will take a QB’ articles that have started popping up.

Not sure Burrow is the sort to shy away from a challenge, and he’s an Ohio native so it’d be back home for him (although he did transfer from Ohio State, which does counter both of those points).

Bengals are trash ownership with super tight purse strings & an almost nonexistent scouting department, they’re probably going to let AJ Green walk & their defence has two good players under 30 (Jessie Bates & William Jackson), so it’s not impossible, but it’s probably still no worse than a lot of #1 overall picks have gone to - they still have Mixon, Boyd & a few good young linemen to give him something to work with, and a young coach with a modern scheme who should get stability to build his team long term.

[Dan]

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Sounds like we’re in for a fun combine.

[Foe]

I don’t really understand it. Got a medical certificate from a nfl doctor confirming you’re injured? Fine. Come along and do what you can. Fully fit and can’t be fucked with the drills? Nah. Away you go, you can work out at your pro day and see what teams are interested enough to come along.

[Giggles]

The combine is a waste of time the more teams realise that tape of players playing actual football is more important than a few irrelevant drills. If they really wanted it they’d conspire not to pick players high that don’t work out.

[Dan]

The thought seems to be that we're slowly moving towards the combine becoming more & more of an entertainment product, what with the move to US prime time hours & the expectation that it's going to be moving away from Indianapolis sooner rather than later.

Teams only really care about the guys who massively surpass expectations or totally bomb it, and even then it's only really to make them to go back to their tape or so they can use it as a tiebreaker for evenly matched players. Most of the benefit for teams is in the medicals & interviews anyway, so we'll inevitably have the draft version of the pro bowl skills showdown in Las Vegas or LA within a few years.

[Giggles]

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[Foe]

Bloody punter just did 25 reps on the bench press.

Fuck me.

[Giggles]

The bigger question is why the fuck is a punter doing the bench press instead of punting?

[Dan]

Chase Claypool giving it the DK treatment - 6'4" 238lbs, 40.0" vertical, 4.42 forty :cab: They're planning to work him out at TE as well - imagine some linebacker trying to cover that.

Fucking Albert Okwuegbunam (shockingly, most people call him Albert O) ran a 4.49 as a 6'5" 258lbs TE as well, and Michigan WR Donovan Peoples-Jones jumped 44.5".

We're getting Ruggs overnight too - Jalen Reagor will probably become the second person to jump 12+ in the broad jump too.

EDIT: Nevermind, apparently he's already jumped & only managed 11' 6" :moop: Bit of a letdown for a guy who won a state long jump title in Texas & said he was just dabbling in it, but still up near the top of the charts.

[Dan]

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:D

Gauntlet drill is always good entertainment.

[Dan]

4.27 for Henry Ruggs:yawn:

Reagor had a pretty poor showing in the end - 4.47 is way slower than expected & his three cone was almost DK speed. Denzel Mims shows up through.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001104933/article/daniel-jeremiah-2020-nfl-mock-draft-20-patriots-take-herbert

Daniel Jeremiah must have done this mock whilst drunk.

He has the Chargers not taking a QB and Herbert (who will be going to the Chargers) lasting all the way until the Patriots at 23. He also has the Ravens taking D'Andre Swift when it's pass rusher or middle linebacker that we'll be targetting.

[Giggles]

I don’t know the player in question but the Packers need an actual receiver, not someone who’s good at workouts.

[Dan]

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The Jags :harold:

Denzel Mims is good, to be fair, but first round is probably just the hype train getting carried away. He's be a great pick in the second round though. A lot of DJ's picks are guys that aren't commonly fitted where they've gone by other draft sites, but you'd have to imagine he's pretty plugged in to how teams are thinking, so probably at least worth taking some of the fits into consideration.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I know Bouye had a down year this season just gone but that's daylight robbery.

Edit: Apparently he was going to be cut so I guess a fourth is a pretty decent if true.

[Dan]

They're going hard at CBs in free agency, you'd have to imagine. That and/or they're taking CJ Henderson at 9. Definitely a great deal for Denver though.

Jags are also going to be losing Ngakoue regardless of whether they tag him or not - he's made it very clear that he won't play for them again. The front office have absolutely decimated a great defence with their incompetence.

Might be shopping Nick 'pay him extra so people think he's legit' Foles too :D

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They're a complete mess right now.

[Gray Fox]

They dont deserve Big Dick Nick.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I don’t know the player in question but the Packers need an actual receiver, not someone who’s good at workouts.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VzzDaz1Hbk

Brett Kollmann likes the guy a lot.

[Dan]

Perfectly timed upload, that was.

[Dan]

Panthers have swapped Trai Turner for Russell Okung.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Chargers have gotten away with daylight robbery.

Turner is better, younger and isn't as injury prone like Okung.

[Dan]

Quinnen Williams follows up his underwhelming rookie season by getting arrested trying to bring a Glock onto a plane :face:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Rumours that Yanda will officially retire this week :(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Or even today :(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://twitter.com/PFF_Sam/status/1237356473635745792

What a guy.

[Ian]

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[Gray Fox]

The players have voted yes on the CBA, so we're set for 14 play off teams now, with only 1 bye each side and a 17 game regular season.

[Gray Fox]

Also only one tag(Franchise or transition) per team.

[Giggles]

They’ve fucked it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Calais Campbell to the Ravens :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

[Foe]

Calais Campbell is off to the ravens.

Didn’t last long in Florida, did he?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So we traded Kaare Vedvik for a fifth rounder which gave us two for the year.

The first we sent to the Rams (along with Kenny Young) for Marcus Peters and the other for Calais Campbell.

Not too shabby at all.

[Giggles]

Better hope he’s still ready to go in 2021.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Also, rumours are that the draft is going to be pushed back to late May and wont be hosted in Vegas.

Dan will be crying when he finds out.

[Dan]

How will this affect our dynasty leagues?!

Jags vs Panthers for Trevor Lawrence, it seems.

[Giggles]

Fucking hell.


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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:|

[Foe]

Fucking hell.


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Jesus Christ. That’s a lot of faith in someone after a good half season...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Derrick Henry must be pissed off.

[Gray Fox]

Or with the new cap they're going to pay him big too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Deandre Hopkins might be up for trade.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm seeing a lot of people mocking D'Andre Swift or Jonathan Taylor to us in the first round and I don't understand why.

Ingram is still under 30 and we've got a fine backup in Gus the Bus with a guy who can potentially become a really good big play guy in Justice Hill.

And we have much bigger holes in other areas, primarily O-Line, MLB, WR and pass rush.

[Gray Fox]

Even more odd is that they aren't Tight Ends.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Browns have made Austin Hooper the highest paid TE in history, lol.

[Dan]

David Johnson to Houston. GM Bill :harold:

Never mind, he’s been outdone:
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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

One decent season after a handful of woeful ones = $10m a season...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

GM Bill trolling the Houston.

[Dan]

WHAT?!

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Unbelievable. THIS IS WHY YOU NEED A PROPER GENERAL MANAGER.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:|

There are no words to describe O'Brien's stupidity.

[Foe]

Jesus fucking Christ.

I mean. Come on.

They must think the WR class is just outrageous (that they’ll get one in the second round, since you know, kenny fucking stills).

BoB is not a GM. Fuck.

[bruhnaldo]

David Johnson to Houston. GM Bill :harold:

Never mind, he’s been outdone:
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man what the fuck

[bruhnaldo]

Bill O’Brien has turned
- DeAndre Hopkins
- Jadeveon Clowney
- 2020 4th rounder (131st overall)

Into
- Gareon Conley
- David Johnson
- Jacob Martin
- Barkevious Mingo
- 2020 2nd rounder (40th overall)
- 2021 4th rounder

brilliant

[Dan]

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First round pick well spent, that. Got more for him than Hopkins though :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm alright with that tbh. He never really fit and Mandrews took off.

[Dan]

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Bucker to the Colts now :cab:

[Gray Fox]

Diggs has kicked off, coincidentally almost exactly around the time Cousins signed his new extension. Says he's to be traded imminently.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We're signing Brockers now.

Our front 3 will be Brockers - Williams - Campbell which is pretty damn sweet.

[Giggles]

Jimmy Graham to the Bears. Bet he'll be fucking good now, though still glad Green Bay moving on from him.

EDIT: $9m guaranteed. Jesus.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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:|

Fuck me.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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:harold:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Brady has announced that's he's moving.

[Dan]

It’s going to be Tampa :uhoh:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'd love it if Jameis went to New England :eyemouth:

It's going to be weird seeing Brady at a different team and the official end of the Patriots dynasty.

[Foe]

Dalton to the patriots (prediction)

[Foe]

Would be great if the pats traded SF for Jimmy G back and Brady went to San Fran.

[Dan]

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Problem solved.

[Dan]

Cam immediately jumping on IG to call the Panthers out for forcing him into the move :cool: Looks like Teddy will be the replacement - 3yrs $60m is pretty damn cheap in this economy.

Bears have formed out for Robert Quinn & cut Leonard Floyd.

Under the radar move of the window is Philly getting Javon Hargrave - him & Fletcher Cox next to each other is obscene.

[Foe]

Rivers off to the colts for $25m 1 year deal.

Carousel.

[Gray Fox]

Brady to the Bucs reportedly done.

Leaves Newton and Winston the last ones on the merry-go-around. Not much room to get off now either.

[phonics]

Jameis to Patriots please.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EI5NJZfWwAEHIgc.jpg

[Foe]

Brady to the Bucs reportedly done.

Leaves Newton and Winston the last ones on the merry-go-around. Not much room to get off now either.

Bucs going to be a really weird team now. Bruce Arians.. Tom brady.

[Dan]

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Bill :|

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking hell.

He must despise Raheem Sterling...

[Dan]

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I’m sorry, what?!

The market for veteran interior defensive linemen is completely fucked.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's mad.

He's only recently turned 30 and still playing at a Pro-Bowl (not that it means much) level.

Generates a lot of pressure from inside too.

[Dan]

Foles to Chicago.

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LOL

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Allen Robinson and Cordarrelle Patterson will be happy, they were reaching out to Brady and Cam:

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[Giggles]

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[Dan]

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Wonder if this guy can give me the lottery numbers for 2025.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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rip.

[Gray Fox]

Darius Slay from the Lions to the Eagles for a 2020 3rd and 5th.

Not too shabby to fill out our greatest need.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gurley has been cut.

[Gray Fox]

Calling Tampa Bay...

[Ian]

Flacco's glorious tenure in Denver is over.

[Dan]

Gurley has been cut.

Gone to the Falcons now.

[Dan]

Andrus Peat back to the Saints, who continue to LOL at the idea of a salary cap (and also have a coach with COVID now)

Ebron to the Steelers as well.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gone to the Falcons now.

1 year, $5m which is a terrific deal.

If he's able to run despite his knees then brilliant, if not then they've wasted fuck all.

[Gray Fox]

Saints signing Sanders probably a low-key, very pro gamer move.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I was hoping he'd come to Baltimore.

[Dan]

:drool:

Not sure where we’ll be looking with our first pick now - maybe linebacker if Patrick Queen it Kenneth Murray are there, otherwise maybe corner? Might be worth trading back, but that doesn’t seem like a Saints thing to do.

[Ian]

I missed Denver signing Melvin Gordon.

Not convinced by that.

[Dan]

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Shiiii :rasta:

[Gray Fox]

I missed Denver signing Melvin Gordon.

Not convinced by that.

I don't get it from Denvers side. They still have Lindsay and Royce Freeman to mind, who compliment each other well. I don't get why you'd spend money putting Gordon into that.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gordon knows where the endzone is.

9 TD's in 11 games last year compared to Freeman with 4 and Lindsay with 7 both playing in all 16 games.

[Dan]

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Guess we should've seen this one coming after his time away last year, but still sucks.

[Ian]

I don't get it from Denvers side. They still have Lindsay and Royce Freeman to mind, who compliment each other well. I don't get why you'd spend money putting Gordon into that.

I feel like it's money that could have been put towards just keeping those two in place.

Maybe just more running options to support Lock but I dunno, I'm not keen on the move at face value.

[Giggles]

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Guess we should've seen this one coming after his time away last year, but still sucks.

He must be fairly handy if people are even noticing that a center is retiring.

[Dan]

Generally regarded as one of the best centres in the league. Also, he plays for the Cowboys so it’s automatically news.

Seahawks have traded a fifth round pick for Quinton Dunbar from Washington, who have also traded a fifth rounder for Kyle Allen.

We also have Mariota to the Raiders, Dion Lewis to the Giants, and the Chiefs have signed Jordan Ta’amu.

[Foe]

Carolina are just looking for a completely fresh start at qb by look of it.

Has will grier survived?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Of course he has :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We've re-signed Jimmy Smith to a 1 year $6m contract.

Another great move by EDC.

[Dan]

Carolina are just looking for a completely fresh start at qb by look of it.

Has will grier survived?

He’ll probably make it to final cuts, and then end up on the practice squad unless he can beat out PJ Walker.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Will Grier will beat out everyone, just wait.

[Dan]

You know, I heard somewhere that Love Will Grier You Apart.

Lots of not very exciting signings in the last few hours - Dorsett to Seattle, Peyton Barber to Washington, Travis Benjamin to the 49ers & Rashaan Melvin to the Jags, as well as Buffalo re-signing Isaiah McKenzie & the Jets bringing back something called a Bennett Jackson :yawn:

EDIT: And then the Panthers get Robby Anderson?! :cab:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bennett Jackson is another of the Baltimore players that the Jets took (they have to be in double figures), decent back up option at safety who played really well in some pre-season games for us.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Speaking of Jets signing former Ravens, Perriman has signed on a 1 year deal.

[John]

Trevor Lawrence started a crowdfunding effort to help people being impacted by Coronavirus, and the NCAA quickly had it shut down because he's not allowed to use his position as an NCAA athlete to promote any sort of fundraising.

What pathetic shitcunts.

[Giggles]

They really are bastards.

[Ian]

Trevor Lawrence started a crowdfunding effort to help people being impacted by Coronavirus, and the NCAA quickly had it shut down because he's not allowed to use his position as an NCAA athlete to promote any sort of fundraising.

What pathetic shitcunts.

"At least when everyone's dead nobody will accuse us of having allowed the rules to be broken."

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The NCAA are absolute tyrants.

[Ian]

They're claiming that they never shut it down and have given it the go ahead but it does sound very them.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Speaking of Jets signing former Ravens, Perriman has signed on a 1 year deal.

And now Patrick 'Peanut' Onwuasor.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Brockers deal with Baltimore has fallen through and he's re-signed with the Rams.

Apparently he failed his medical due to a high ankle sprain and wasn't willing to re-negotiate his contract.

Sucks as we let Michael Pierce go and traded Chris Wormley.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We've signed Derek Wolfe on a 1 year deal for $3m after Brockers fell through.

Not bad a bad signing, cheap due to all the injuries he's had though.

[Ian]

I really like Wolfe, I think that's a good signing. he'd longed been touted as one of the ones likely to go though along with Harris.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Aldon Smith, the amazing pass rusher who couldn't stop getting in trouble, is back.

He hasn't played since 2015 but the Cowboys have given him a 1 year contract.

[Dan]

There’s still a part of me that’s waiting for them to reveal that as an April Fools joke.

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[Giggles]

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Only the shit franchises change jerseys anyway.

[Ian]

Hey. :(

[Giggles]

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:D

[Gray Fox]

Texans have traded for Brandin Cooks. 2nd rounder and future 4th.

That'll sure keep them fans happy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Texans ended up trading Hopkins and 17 spots in the second round for Brandin Cooks and David Johnson.

:lol:

[Dan]

Wasn’t there talk last season of Cooks possibly having his career in jeopardy because of all his concussion issues? I know I definitely thought he should be considering it.

Great work as usual, Bill :thbup:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/apr/09/chris-johnson-accused-murder-for-hire-plot

Former All-Pro running back Chris Johnson has been linked to a murder-for-hire plot that resulted in the deaths of two men in 2016, TMZ Sports reported Thursday.

TMZ said Johnson hasn’t been charged but is suspected of paying “a noted Florida gang member” to kill two men whom he believed shot at him and a friend in 2015.

[bruhnaldo]

Dolphins need to throw a 1st toward Houston and try and get Deshaun outta there.

[Gray Fox]

RIP the XFL.

[Pleb]

CoVid killed it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Car crash.

[Giggles]

4 years, $64m for McCaffrey. Haven't seen how much of it is real yet but on paper he's the highest paid RB in the league now.

[Foe]

Ever apparently.

Make sense for him. They say they’re throwing him in there he’s bound to pick up an injury at some point.

[Dan]

If they regret the deal in two years time it’ll be the death blow for RB second contracts.

[Ian]

Von Miller has the virus.

At home rather than in the hospital so presumably the symptoms aren't too bad for him.

[Dan]

Draft is only a few days away :drool: It's crazy every year, but I'm looking forward to all the extra chaos that will inevitably come with the virtual draft.

Did a three round mock if you can see it. (https://thedraftnetwork.com/mockdraft/8A9PTWoDRp)

Fournette apparently on the trade block, so that's him, OJ Howard, Yannick Ngakoue & Joe Thuney, among others, who could be moved about on draft day.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Kenneth Murray, Patrick Queen and Gross-Matos are our main targets I think. If one of those aren't there for us I can see us trading down to pick up a sliding WR or edge rusher.

[Foe]

Jags released marquise lee.

Hurns, Robinson and lee all let go.

Think the top 3 picks in the draft are pretty locked in but just can’t see the giants not trading down.

[Dan]

The talk is that the Giants will take Isaiah Simmons or a tackle (likely Tristan Wirfs). I'm not sure the Giants would maximise Simmons, but there are going to be a few solid OT's at the top of round two whereas there's no other Isaiah Simmons in this class (I guess maybe Jeremy Chinn or Kyle Dugger if you want discount versions), so it does make some sense.

Seeing stories of the Falcons saying Kendall Sheffield can be a CB1 alongside stories of the Falcons being expected to be one of the most aggressive teams in the draft makes me think that they'll be trading up for CJ Henderson, assuming Okudah goes to Detroit of course. Can't see anyone in the top 6 trading out that far, and not sure they'd be able to strike a deal with Carolina, so it probably would have to be a trade with Arizona to get ahead of Jacksonville.

[Gray Fox]

Draft is only a few days away :drool: It's crazy every year, but I'm looking forward to all the extra chaos that will inevitably come with the virtual draft.

Did a three round mock if you can see it. (https://thedraftnetwork.com/mockdraft/8A9PTWoDRp)

Fournette apparently on the trade block, so that's him, OJ Howard, Yannick Ngakoue & Joe Thuney, among others, who could be moved about on draft day.

Interestingly you have us going for the same guy I do.

I think we'd like to get involved with the Ruggs III, Lamb or Jeudy debate, but that's may be too expensive for us. I have however seen Howie take us into pick #2 for a QB he liked and that worked out well.

I also think the Patriots will play smart. I can see them wanting to get either Hurts or Fromm. They'll need to be in R2 to do that though, so they'll likely move back in the 1st to try and pick up a 2nd and chuck one of their 3 x 3rd rounders back over.

[Dan]

Nah, they’ll just have Tua fall to them at 23 & he’ll never get hurt again.

[thommo]

The whole pandemic has really knocked me for six in terms of the NFL - I really haven't been keeping up to date with anything regarding the draft as it's weird to think of it still happening under all the circumstances. Need to catch up on all the predictions this week.

[Dan]

I did a mock where I tried to cause as much mayhem as possible. (https://thedraftnetwork.com/mockdraft/O4zuNEyduq)

Apparently they did a test run of the draft & there were technical problems at the very first pick. Should be great fun come Thursday.

[bruhnaldo]

No offense Dan but that's just very silly with Herbert going #1 overall.

[Dan]

NFL teams do very silly things all the time, especially when it comes to drafting QBs. Doing very silly things was kinda the whole point.

[bruhnaldo]

Oh ok let me rephrase

"What the fuck did you even get out of that that a monkey wouldn't have by just smashing his hands against the keyboard aimlessly?"

[Giggles]

What the fuck do any of us get out of anything?

[bruhnaldo]

Insight. Knowledge. Experience. Enjoyment. Affection. Indignation. Kindness. Astonishment. Contempt. Disdain. Reflection. Devotion. Despair. Anxiety. Grief. Nostalgia. Satisfaction. Sympathy. Entrancement. Excitement.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I assume he got one of those out of it.

Thanks for clearing it up.

[bruhnaldo]

Check out my mock draft guY'sM:

#1. Shane Falco, QB, Ohio State
#2. Bobby Boucher, DE, South Central Louisiana State
#3. Willie Beamen, QB, Houston
#4. Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
#5. Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama

:drool: it's happening, boys

[Foe]

https://predictpick.nfl.com

Entry foetthirl

Took a flier on love dropping out the first round (I just can't see the pats taking him and struggling to find another team). Delpit to the saints seems a reach too but they've seen far too much of him being great to not take him if he's there (hopefully).

Wirfs to the cardinals would just be so fun. Ridiculously mobile qb protected by a freaky athletic tackle.

[Giggles]

Gronkowski is back. To Tampa for a 7th rounder.

[Giggles]

Check out my mock draft guY'sM:

#1. Shane Falco, QB, Ohio State
#2. Bobby Boucher, DE, South Central Louisiana State
#3. Willie Beamen, QB, Houston
#4. Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
#5. Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama

:drool: it's happening, boys

That’s just stupid though.

[Dan]

Oh ok let me rephrase

"What the fuck did you even get out of that that a monkey wouldn't have by just smashing his hands against the keyboard aimlessly?"


Insight. Knowledge. Experience. Enjoyment. Affection. Indignation. Kindness. Astonishment. Contempt. Disdain. Reflection. Devotion. Despair. Anxiety. Grief. Nostalgia. Satisfaction. Sympathy. Entrancement. Excitement.

Clearly I got these ones from you :)

It's fun to play with scenarios. Not every mock draft has to be predictive.

[Dan]

gronkowski is back. To tampa for a 7th rounder.

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

Just trade Edelman there mid-draft & be done with it.

[Giggles]

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[Giggles]

Apparently now it’s actually Gronkowski and a 7th for a 4th.

[bruhnaldo]

It's fun to play with scenarios. Not every mock draft has to be predictive.

But it's not even like a plausible scenario starting at Step 1 of 32 is all I was getting at. You've literally just picked random names.

[bruhnaldo]

That’s just stupid though.

It's fun to play with scenarios. Not every mock draft has to be predictive.

[Giggles]

It's fun to play with scenarios. Not every mock draft has to be predictive.

They probably should contain all real people though.

You’ve shat the bed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Check out my mock draft guY'sM:

#1. Shane Falco, QB, Ohio State
#2. Bobby Boucher, DE, South Central Louisiana State
#3. Willie Beamen, QB, Houston
#4. Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
#5. Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama

:drool: it's happening, boys

Dry your eyes, mate.

[John]

They probably should contain all real people though.

You’ve shat the bed.

He's shat a hole straight through the bed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://predictpick.nfl.com

Entry foetthirl

Took a flier on love dropping out the first round (I just can't see the pats taking him and struggling to find another team). Delpit to the saints seems a reach too but they've seen far too much of him being great to not take him if he's there (hopefully).

Wirfs to the cardinals would just be so fun. Ridiculously mobile qb protected by a freaky athletic tackle.

I've made a group.

The Third Half. Password is TTH.

[Dan]

But it's not even like a plausible scenario starting at Step 1 of 32 is all I was getting at. You've literally just picked random names.

No, there's logic behind every pick, it's just that some of them are extremely far fetched.

[Foe]

I've made a group.

The Third Half. Password is TTH.

Will attempt to find that tomorrow evening.

I really struggled when I got into the middle. All the teams that really need lineman and backers get on when the really good ones are gone.

Jonathan Taylor to the titans would be so good though. A Henry/Taylor beatdown.

[bruhnaldo]

No, there's logic behind every pick

Not when you've picked something entirely impossible at #1 but I'm glad you enjoyed wasting your time.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Will attempt to find that tomorrow evening.

I really struggled when I got into the middle. All the teams that really need lineman and backers get on when the really good ones are gone.

Jonathan Taylor to the titans would be so good though. A Henry/Taylor beatdown.

I think I've gone far too O-Line heavy and CB.

[Dan]

Titans should get AJ Dillon (https://www.nfl.com/prospects/aj-dillon?id=32194449-4c23-7740-624c-afbd67329c54) on day three.

[Gray Fox]

Impossible, no. Improbable, yes.

What else are we to do whilst in lockdown? Fuck knows.

[Dan]

I think I've gone far too O-Line heavy and CB.

Nah, that'll probably be almost half of the first round.


Not when you've picked something entirely impossible at #1 but I'm glad you enjoyed wasting your time.

I didn't realise you'd had the Bengals pick confirmed, Mr Schefter.

It's going to be Burrow, obviously, but no pick is 100% until it's announced, so why not play around with some hypotheticals? Dolphins could offer them five first rounders to give him up, for instance. Or he could do the Tunsil gas mask tomorrow.

[bruhnaldo]

No, I used the right word.

[bruhnaldo]

so why not play around with some hypotheticals?

Because Herbert isn't going #1 so once you do that you're basically committing to wasting the next (time) of your day on a bit that wasn't even remotely humorous enough otherwise to be considered worth sharing with any other human than yourself.

[Dan]

No, I used the right word.

Joe Burrow dies tomorrow in a freak accident. Do the Bengals still take him?

[bruhnaldo]

Joe Burrow dies tomorrow in a freak accident. Do the Bengals still take him?

Well then I guess he isn't also going #2 or whatever either then is he you absolute fuckin genius? So guess what that also means? Your bit is still invalid and a waste of time.

Try again.

[Dan]

I'm not doing a bit. It's impossible.

[bruhnaldo]

Moving on, then.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You're an absolute nutcase, Bruh.

You've also never done anything pointless but mildly entertaining for yourself in your life.

[Dan]

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Twitter just did the same bit that Bruh & I did :D

[John]

Well then I guess he isn't also going #2 or whatever either then is he you absolute fuckin genius? So guess what that also means? Your bit is still invalid and a waste of time.

Try again.

I bet he enjoyed himself more and for longer doing it than you have shitting your undies clean off your body at him for it.

Counterfactuals can be fun little intellectual exercises. In this case there's more than one in play, but then 'what if the Bengals biff a draft' is hardly a counterfactual at all.

[John]

Patriots are 'trading' Gronk to the Bucs, because he's told them that while he wants to play again, he only wants to do so with Brady and not for them. They'll be sending him and a seventh round pick and getting a fourth round pick in return. Given he's retired and it sounds like he wouldn't be coming back to play for them whatever happened, it's decent business for the Pats. They're essentially swapping a seventh for a fourth.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We were touched on it briefly before Bruh had yet another meltdown over nothing.

It's great business by the Patriots, he was never going to play for them again and he looked pretty poor in his last season as injuries have clearly taken their toll.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2020/mock-drafts/maurice-jones-drew/381304

I hope you're going to be posting a letter bomb to MJD as he also has Herbert going number 1 in his serious draft, Bruh.

[Ian]

Bruh: You've just wasted your time, Dan
Also Bruh: *wastes his time critiquing about something somebody else did for some harmless fun*

That said I'm all in on Shane Falco for the number one spot. #2 is clearly going to be Julius Campbell though, idiot.

[Dan]

Last night at about 12:30am I was wondering about a mock draft where you can only draft players who wore the same jersey number as the pick you're making, so you might get that one at some point too. Spoilers, there are a lot of numbers that nobody good seems to wear. On the other hand, if you can get a number in the 1-15 range you're probably going to get drafted - 1 & 2 in particular have a bunch of studs.

I need this quarantine to end :(

EDIT: On a related note, TDN did a hometown only mock. (https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/nfl-mock-draft-hometown-2020)

[Foe]

Yeah I was thinking college/state only draft. Kind of like what the jags do each first round anyway.

Edit that hometown draft is stupid.

Dan. You can only draft a player who played college football in the same state as the team playing. Go.

Trades are allowed if you think a team would jump up to get a specific prospect.

[Dan]

Joe Burrow used to play at Ohio State...

The Texas & Florida teams will be loaded, obviously. Saints will have a nice group of LSU players all to themselves too :) Nobody plays in Maryland though, so sorry Washington & Baltimore.

[Foe]

Yeah. That counts.

I want to see a full list of 32 picks. The hometown draft is stupid because he’s basically having to trail through the Unknowns. Bar maybe the raiders or chiefs, I suspect most of the teams have pretty high level prospects.

[Dan]

It's probably not that different by college, to be honest. Nobody good for any of the New York teams or Las Vegas, not many decent prospects out of places like Tennessee & Minnesota this year, although just enough to get by. I gave it a quick look & it's pretty difficult to do a whole mock without just spamming picks for the teams from Texas, Ohio, Carolina, Georgia & Florida.

I'll compromise & do a list of top five players in the class by each state...

[Dan]

It's an ugly wall of text, but I think that's all of them Foe:

Ohio (Bengals, Browns) - Chase Young, EDGE / Jeff Okudah, CB / JK Dobbins, RB / Malik Harrison, LB / Damon Arnette, CB (all Ohio State)

Pennsylvania (Pittsburgh & Philly) - Yetur Gross-Matos, EDGE / KJ Hamler, WR / John Reid, CB (all Penn State) Matt Hennessy, C (Temple) / Dane Jackson, CB (Pitt)

Maryland (Baltimore & Washington) - Anthony McFarland, RB / Javon Leake, RB / Antoine Brooks Jr, S (all Maryland) / Malcolm Perry, QB,RB,WR (Navy) / Tom Flacco, QB (Towson - before you ask, yes he is)

New York/New Jersey (NYG & NYJ, Buffalo) - Alton Robinson, EDGE / Kendall Coleman, EDGE (both Syracuse) / Cam Gill, LB (Wagner) / Evin Ksiezarczyk, OT (Buffalo)

Texas (Cowboys & Texans) - Jeff Gladney, CB / Jalen Reagor, WR / Lucas Niang, OT (all TCU) / Josh Jones, OT (Houston) / Denzel Mims, WR (Baylor)

Florida (Jaguars, Bucs & Dolphins) - CJ Henderson, CB / Jon Greenard, EDGE / Van Jefferson, WR (all Florida) / Cam Akers (Florida State) / Gabriel Davis (UCF)

Massachusetts (Patriots) - AJ Dillon, RB / John Phillips, OG (both Boston College) ???

Indiana (Colts) - Cole Kmet, TE / Julian Okwara, EDGE / Troy Pride Jr, CB / Khalid Kareem, EDGE / Alohi Gilman, S (all Notre Dame)

Missouri (Chiefs) - Albert O, TE / Kelly Bryant, QB / Jordan Elliot, DT / Demarkus Acy, DB / Yasir Durant, OT (all Missouri)

Colorado (Broncos) - Laviska Shenault, WR / Steven Montez, QB / Davion Taylor, LB (all Colorado) ???

Nevada (Raiders) - ???

California (Chargers, Rams, 49ers) - Michael Pittman Jr, WR / Austin Jackson, OT (both USC) / Evan Weaver, LB / Ashtyn Davis, S (both Cal) / Darnay Holmes, CB (UCLA)

Arizona (Cardinals) - Brandon Aiyuk, WR / Eno Benjamin, RB / Michael Turk, P / Cohl Cabral, OL (all Arizona State), JJ Taylor, RB (Arizona)

Tennessee (Titans) - Darrell Taylor, EDGE / Daniel Bituli, LB (both Tennessee) / Antonio Gibson, RB,WR (Memphis) / Jared Pinckney, TE / Ke'Shawn Vaughn, RB (both Vanderbilt)

Louisiana (Saints) - Joe Burrow, QB / Patrick Queen, LB / Kristian Fulton, CB / Justin Jefferson, WR / Grant Delpit, S (all LSU)

Georgia (Falcons) - Andrew Thomas, OT / DeAndre Swift, RB / Jake Fromm, QB / Isaiah Wilson, OT / JR Reed, S (all Georgia)

Illinois (Bears) - Jeremy Chinn, S / Madre Harper, DB (both Southern Illinois) / Reggie Corbin, RB (Illinois) / Joe Gaziano, EDGE (Northwestern) / James Robinson, RB (Illinois State)

Minnesota (Vikings) - Antoine Winfield Jr, S / Tyler Johnson, WR / Carter Coughlin, EDGE / Chris Williamson, CB / Kamal Martin, LB (all Minnesota)

Carolina (Panthers) - Isiaiah Simmons, everything / AJ Terrell, CB / John Simpson, OL (all Clemson) / Javon Kinlaw, DT / Bryan Edwards, WR (both South Carolina)

Michigan (Lions) - Cesar Ruiz, OL / Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR / Josh Uche, EDGE (all Michigan) / Kenny Willekes, EDGE / Josiah Scott, CB (both Michigan State)

Wisconsin (Packers) - Jonathan Taylor, RB / Zack Baun, EDGE / Tyler Biadasz, OL / Quintez Cephus, WR / Chris Orr, LB (all Wisconsin)

Washington (Seahawks) - Jacob Eason, QB / Hunter Bryant, TE / Myles Bryant, CB / Nick Harris, OL (all Washington) / Anthony Gordon, QB (Washington State)

Gonna go make dinner now :D

[Foe]

That’s an impressive list.

It’s going to be brilliant if the raiders move to Vegas is focused on tourism which is now absolutely fucked.

Casinos are probably struggling too.

[bruhnaldo]

Vegas mayor was on CNN saying they'd offer up Vegas to be a guinea pig basically to see if people did really die if we stopped doing social distancing, so.

[Foe]

“Fuck it then, plough them into my casinos and let’s see what happens”.

That man is on the take.

[bruhnaldo]

Woman, ironically.

[Foe]

Christ. Although fair fucks to her. Can imagine that state is a world of corruption.

[Dan]

Just realised that the draft starts at midnight tonight & tomorrow :moop:

[Foe]

Got it set to record and got tomorrow off work.

Looking forward to the virtual carnage.

[Browning]

Is this one of those things where it "starts" at midnight but the first pick is at like 3:45?

[Foe]

Seem to recall last time there was a good 90 minutes of coverage before the clock started.

[thommo]

Surely with everyone at home on a big Skype call, they will just get right into it? Still in work so will see how long I can hack it tonight.

[Ian]

Surely with everyone at home on a big Skype call, they will just get right into it? Still in work so will see how long I can hack it tonight.

They'll still find an excuse to fart about because ad money.

[bruhnaldo]

They'll still find an excuse to fart about because ad money.

Mine said 2 1/2 hours of coverage for one round and since we have 3 picks I can't even fuck half of it off.

[Foe]

We have zero picks and I’m still very excited.

[Ian]

Mine said 2 1/2 hours of coverage for one round and since we have 3 picks I can't even fuck half of it off.

Well, I mean, you could because it's one of the dullest things going.

Then just read the results, watch any videos of anything actually entertaining that happens and win.

[Browning]

2.5 hours for one round is less than 5 minutes per pick which seems incredibly optimistic.

[bruhnaldo]

2.5 hours for one round is less than 5 minutes per pick which seems incredibly optimistic.

True. If I recall the time limit is 3 minutes between picks once the clock actually starts. If the clock ACTUALLY starts at say, 8pm, the draft would technically have to conclude by 9:36pm.

Since they have the allotted time from 8:00pm to 11:30pm I bet it'll be something like...

8:00pm - 9:00pm : Pre-draft coverage and interviews
9:00pm - 9:15pm : Stupid fuckin montage videos of the top 3 prospects
9:15pm - 10:45pm : Actual draft, cause some picks won't take the entire 3 hours but they'll have a bunch of commercials and shit
10:45pm - 11:30pm : Live REACTIONS! and bullshit.

Oh man it's 3 and 1/2 hours i typed that wrong initially my bad.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bengals will be put on the clock almost instantly and the timing is 10 minutes for the first round.

The seventh round is 4 minutes.

[bruhnaldo]

Damn really?! Where the hell did I get 3 minutes lmao