The NFL Thread

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just watched the first 2 episodes of the Netflix Aaron Hernandez documentary, the guy was (obviously) messed up and there's a lot in it that I didn't know at the time.

I know that following his suicide he was diagnosed with CTE but I wouldn't have been surprised if he had done most of it even if he hadn't suffered from brain trauma.

Just finished it.

He was clearly a sociopath.

Also, I think guilty of Odin Lloyd and not guilty for the double Boston homicide was right although he was definitely in the car when the Boston killings occurred and knew the shooter (more than likely Bradley).

[Dan]

In the most surprising underclassmen decision of the bunch, Travis Etienne has decided to go back to school.

LSU have also lost ANOTHER player, with TE Thaddeus Moss (son of Randy) declaring. Still not seen anything for sure on Chaisson.

[Gray Fox]

Giants hiring Jason Garrett as their new OC.

I look forward to lots of clapping on the sideline regardless of the score.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think he'll do alright.

He seems the type that is better suited as a OC rather than a head coach.

[Foe]

In the most surprising underclassmen decision of the bunch, Travis Etienne has decided to go back to school.

LSU have also lost ANOTHER player, with TE Thaddeus Moss (son of Randy) declaring. Still not seen anything for sure on Chaisson.

Moss had a big game in the Natty so no reason to go back. Particularly if he doesn’t think LSU will be as good without burrow and friends.

How’s the rb class looking? Taylor, swift, Edwards Elaire, najae Harris, who else?

[Foe]

Just googled this myself. Harris is going back too but forgot about jk dobbins.

[Dan]

Moss had a big game in the Natty so no reason to go back. Particularly if he doesn’t think LSU will be as good without burrow and friends.

How’s the rb class looking? Taylor, swift, Edwards Elaire, najae Harris, who else?

Taylor, Dobbins & Swift are the three who could find their way into R1, and Edwards-Helaire would probably be the next one off most boards, but then you also have guys like Eno Benjamin, Anthony McFarland, Zack Moss & Cam Akers who could all go day two. Day three should see DeeJay Dallas & Lamical Perine go fairly early (I like both of these two as guys who could be productive three down players at a low cost), with lots of depth at the end in Xavier Jones, Rodney Smith, Benny LeMay, Reggie Corbin & a bunch of other guys.

Having said that, Najee, Etienne, Kylin Hill & Chuba Hubbard is a fantastic start to the 2021 class :drool:

Shrine Game is tonight, with the Senior Bowl starting next week. Doesn’t sound like the greatest crop of players for Shrine, but no doubt there will still end up being some starters in there somewhere.

[Giggles]

Got tomorrow off. They’re gonna get humped but they don’t come around often.

[Foe]

Simmons leaving Clemson now too.

Going to look forward to reading the “big boards”. Should be an interesting draft this year. Three qbs who should go round 1, a few others in the mix and a few outstanding prospects elsewhere ie chase young, the wideout class and Delpit.

[Dan]

Simmons leaving Clemson now too.

Going to look forward to reading the “big boards”. Should be an interesting draft this year. Three qbs who should go round 1, a few others in the mix and a few outstanding prospects elsewhere ie chase young, the wideout class and Delpit.

Matt Miller's latest rankings (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2868550-2020-nfl-draft-big-board-matt-millers-latest-rankings#slide0)

The Draft Network consensus rankings (https://thedraftnetwork.com/prospect-rankings)

I'll throw in Dane Brugler's board (https://theathletic.co.uk/1514719/2020/01/07/updated-top-100-nfl-draft-board-a-new-rb1-emerges-in-a-talent-rich-group/) but you need a subscription to The Athletic to see them.

[Giggles]

JK Scott has a dose of the shits. Possibly going in without the biggest offensive weapon.

[phonics]

What channel is the best coverage on for both games? I got IPTV so have access to them all.

[Spoonsky]

Got tomorrow off. They’re gonna get humped but they don’t come around often.

Which is your team?

[Giggles]

The Jets.

[Giggles]

What channel is the best coverage on for both games? I got IPTV so have access to them all.

Sky.

[Gray Fox]

We need peoples teams in the OP, though I think most in here know by now.

Giggles has Pleb for company.

[phonics]

Sky.

I enjoy all the dumb ads though

[Giggles]

I enjoy all the dumb ads though

Then CBS followed by Fox. The first one should start getting into pregame around 8pm your time with kickoff at 5 past 9.

[Ian]

We need peoples teams in the OP, though I think most in here know by now.

Was it this forum or the dead one where I was maintaining a list for a while?

Pleb has been the opposite of a glory supporter anyway. Didn't he briefly flirt with supporting the Raiders?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Was it this forum or the dead one where I was maintaining a list for a while?

Pleb has been the opposite of a glory supporter anyway. Didn't he briefly flirt with supporting the Raiders?

Dead one.

[Giggles]

Now TV is about 2 minutes behind when you cast it vs streaming it on-device for some reason.

[Pleb]

Not kicking a field goal for over a month :|

[Foe]

This titans team is looking really sharp.

Vrabel has clearly learned from Belichick. Doesn’t matter how good you are in september. Gotta get the job done in December and January.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ugh, had to be child beater.

[Dan]

Tyran Mathieu is such a beast.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Breeland though is shit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Big man TD's :drool:

[Dan]

They're going to do this, aren't they?

[Ian]

I could score that sort of touchdown if no cunt was going to tackle me.

Absolutely pathetic defending.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just blow him the fuck up there near the line, he's a runner not a QB at that point.

[Dan]

Great job from Tremaine Brock failing to tackle a QB at the goal-line.

Football Twitter blowing its load en masse, obviously.

[Giggles]

Vrabel looked finished after that. Shot to pieces.

[Dan]

They might actually have to throw the ball downfield :uhoh:

[Dan]

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Just fuck off.

[Ian]

What on Earth is he talking about?

Behave, Eisen.

[Ian]

I can live with the Chiefs winning but can't some cunt take Hill's head off in the process?

[Dan]

They're going to do this, aren't they?

Nope.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tannehill is looking like Tannehill right now which doesn't bode well.

[Giggles]

And we are done.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tremaine Brock is horseshit.

[Giggles]

Tyran Mathieu is such a beast.


Breeland though is shit.


Tremaine Brock is horseshit.

They’re all average to good NFL standard players.

Shake yourselves up, you’re not 11 year olds watching 15 hours of youtube a day.


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[Dan]

Tyrann Mathieu is absolutely better than good. The other two are probably worse than average.

Chiefs not even giving enough of a fuck to cover the obvious fake punt :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Breeland and Brock are well below average, especially Brock who has bounced around teams for the last few seasons.

[Dan]

Oh, look who just got flagged.

[Giggles]

Best ever!
Worst ever!

[Giggles]

That’s a weak interference call though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Where has anyone said either of those things?

Stop being a twat.

[Dan]

What a way to go out :D

[Ian]

Kelce just swore very loudly down a live mic. :D

[niko_cee]

No matter how much I watch it I can still never really get my head around the owner deference in American sport.

[Giggles]

The fucking hack of this anthem :D

[niko_cee]

'mon the Pack.

[Giggles]

They won’t win by kicking there. They need something out of the ordinary to even get close to these.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Best ever rushing TD from Mostert there.

[Giggles]

Nerve touched.

R-Most goat 4lyf breh.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Around the NFL dickheads saying that the Chiefs are a likeable team with no one annoying to cover.

Have they forgotten what Tyreek did?

[Giggles]

I don’t get the Tyreek Hill thing. You wouldn’t have to turn over too many stones to find a domestic abuse case in the NFL but he’s the only one cops any flak for it. Others like Adrian Peterson are lauded from all corners and he’s a child abuser. Ahman Green is on every list of greatest modern Packers and his favourite hobby was knocking women about. It’s a long list.


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[John]

Didn't Hill break his kid's arm?

Packers centre. :lol:

[Dan]

Mahomes is so good he cancels out child abuse.

This game is not going well for Green Bay.

[Giggles]

Might as well get all the mistakes out now. This was done and dusted at 10-0.

[John]

Quality play from Mostert and his mates there.

[Giggles]

Didn't Hill break his kid's arm?

Packers centre. :lol:

Peterson knocked the fuck out of one with a belt buckle.

[Giggles]

Pettine needs to get the road tomorrow.

[Dan]

Okay, I'll be going to bed now.

[Giggles]

As shall I.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mostert is having his way with this defence.

[John]

He isn't really. Juszczyk is the one doing the bullying, Mostert is just bombing through all the massive gaps.

Why are the Packers sticking with the same two passing setups, even when the Niners are dropping the disguise and very obviously going straight after Rodgers in numbers.

[Giggles]

He isn't really. Juszczyk is the one doing the bullying, Mostert is just bombing through all the massive gaps.

Why are the Packers sticking with the same two passing setups, even when the Niners are dropping the disguise and very obviously going straight after Rodgers in numbers.

The Packers don’t have anything else. They haven’t all season.

[Gray Fox]

Death by a thousand runs for the Packers then.

Bit of a shame for it to fizzle out like that as you'd think that may have been Rodgers' last chance.

[Ian]

It took me a minute for Jimmy G's statline to register when I looked at it this morning, but I did like SI describing his performance as the "world’s most handsome handoff machine."

[Dan]

Okay, I decided I'd start giving some of the 2020 draft prospects a bit more of a look, as I'd barely watched any of them. MAN DO I LOVE JEFFREY OKUDAH (CB, Ohio State). Him & Derrick Brown (DT, Auburn) might be my two favourite players in the class.

Also, AJ Epenesa (EDGE, Iowa) is a big, strong boy, Isaiah Simmons (Clemson) is the Taysom Hill of defence, and Jedrick Wills (OT, Alabama) just did not give a fuck about anyone trying to pass rush against him.

Planning on doing CeeDee Lamb (WR, Oklahoma), Henry Ruggs (WR on x1.25 speed, Alabama) & K'Lavon Chaisson (EDGE, LSU) next, as they're the three highest rated players I've not got to properly yet.

Oh, and I have a fourth round grade on a punter & a fifth on a kicker :cool:

[Ian]

Is there a reason you go to all this effort for 'grading' players and whatnot other than because you enjoy it?

Not that that's not reason enough, I'm just curious.

[Giggles]

Someone from this side of the atlantic just watching TV broadcasts or Youtube compilations can't really 'grade' anyone (unless it's just using an amalgamation of data from loads of real scouting websites as your own) but we all need a hobby in fairness. They're all shit until they prove it for a few seasons in the NFL anyway.

[Dan]

Oh yeah, I’m absolutely nowhere near knowledgeable enough to even know what I’m actually looking for & stuff, and when I say grading what I basically mean is ‘watch a few cutups & think of a couple of numbers out of 10 that feel about right, plug them into an excel document & assign round grade to certain ranges kinda randomly’.

I like data & spreadsheets, and I always get nerdy about the draft, so it’s fun to get a look at some of the guys before they come out & maybe slowly learn something about what I’m actually looking at in the process.

[Foe]

The packers looked a bit off didn’t they.

Get the feeling they’ve basically taken a punt that one of their receivers will eventually turn really good to compliment Adams.

Kurmerow, M V-S and Allison.

Not really happened though, so could see them praying someone like ruggs or Higgins drops to them.

[Giggles]

There’s a big gap from Adams to Lazard and then about double that gap back to the rest (not sure why they even signed Ryan Grant). They desperately need 2 or 3 receivers and a TE. Criminal that Jimmy Graham is the highest paid in the league.

There’s some big holes on defence too though, so the draft isn’t going to fix all their problems - ILB in a huge way, D-line help, and someone to drop Kevin Kind down the depth chart a bit. Need to start thinking about a QB in the first 3 rounds very soon too.

[Giggles]

I like this. So much better than the waste of time that is an onside kick.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001098234/article/nfl-to-test-out-two-potential-rule-changes-in-pro-bowl



After a successful field goal or extra point try attempt, the scoring team will have options with no kickoff.

The scoring team, Team A, will have the following options:
1. Team A may elect to give Team B the ball at Team B's 25-yard line, beginning a new series of downs with a first-and-10.
2. Team A may elect to take the ball at its own 25-yard line for a fourth-and-15 play. If Team A is successful in making a first down, Team A will maintain possession and a new series of downs will continue as normal. If Team A is unsuccessful in making a first down, the result will be a turnover on downs and Team B will take possession at the dead-ball spot.

[Gray Fox]

A positive step I guess. 4th and 15 isn't going to be made too often either. Though a successful onside kick gives you possession near the 50, almost guarantees at least a FG attempt.

[niko_cee]

Fuck that.

[Ian]

I don't know how I feel about those, to be honest.

[Giggles]

Need to do something anyway. Recent changes have made the onside basically pointless.

Removing any special teams in favour of offense and defense is a good move for me.

[Dan]

Clearly feeling the pressure from XFL.

I’d like to see 4th & 10 from the 35, rather than 4th & 15 from the 25, but it’s a decent start I guess.

[phonics]

My limited experience of watching 4 games did make it seem pretty pointless that they spend 5 minutes getting a serperate team on and then some guy kicks it into the oppositions touchdown area and then the actual game starts again.

[Ian]

That '5 minutes' won't change even if they did bin special teams for other things because a lot of a given delay is so that they can advertise. The NFL has zero interest in making a game take less time to play. They'll just find other pointless stuff to do instead.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/NFL_Sideline_Television_Coordinators.jpg

Orange Gloves is God.

[phonics]

I love that Nugenix ad. I'd seen it on some AEW shows before and I laugh every time they ask the black guy how he stays so fit and it sounds like he answers 'Eugenics'.

[Jimmy Floyd]

How long is the average NFL game, out of interest?

Baseball the average is 3:05 and they are shitting themselves to bring that down, so it's interesting that NFL doesn't have the same problem (or if they do, are keen to ignore it).

[phonics]

The game the other night started at 9 and ended at about midnight. So about the same.

[Foe]

How long is the average NFL game, out of interest?

Baseball the average is 3:05 and they are shitting themselves to bring that down, so it's interesting that NFL doesn't have the same problem (or if they do, are keen to ignore it).

Baseball is very repetitive though whilst American football is a bit more random and wild (read:violent).

I don’t think the nfl cares how long the game takes if it’s 3-4 hour range. People will watch and if it’s a blowout they leave.

[niko_cee]

Most NFL games seem to come in under 3 hours, or just about on that going off the regular season 6pms, as they're nearly always done by 9.

[bruhnaldo]

I love that Nugenix ad. I'd seen it on some AEW shows before and I laugh every time they ask the black guy how he stays so fit and it sounds like he answers 'Eugenics'.

"the black guy" is a hall of fame baseball player, too. I'm not saying that to be snarky just providing context to the commercial lol

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/49ers-win-over-redskins-in-shortest-nfl-game-in-10-years-heres-how-the-length-of-game-stacks-up-all-time/

3:07 for this year although this was measured halfway through the season.

[Dan]

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[Ian]

The Bruce will be heartbroken.

[Dan]

It's okay, they still have his clone, and Arch Manning will probably be eligible by the time Jones' rookie deal ends, so they can go back to the real thing.

[Gray Fox]

The Las Vegas Raiders just sounds wrong.

[Dan]

Just wait until we get the Oakland Chargers in five years.

[Ian]

The Las Vegas Raiders just sounds wrong.

LV Raiders is a bit unwieldy as well.

[Ian]

Before Super Bowl XIII, Cowboys linebacker Thomas (Hollywood) Henderson told the media that Bradshaw “couldn’t spell cat if you spotted him the c and the a.”

:D

[Dan]

Senior Bowl is just about to start in case anyone wants to watch a bunch of day three picks play an exhibition game

[Giggles]

NFL.com want me to pay for it this year :D

[phonics]

How is it that the NBA is the only one that does All-Star Weekend right?

I know the Dunk contest has lost some of it's glamour but the NFL version seems to involve people playing dodgeball in a local park.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The NFL one is absolute horseshit.

Mindless 'skill' games and then the most watered down version of a game.

They'd be better just making the game a flag football match.

[Giggles]

They should just make it an awards team and forget the whole weekend and game.

That said, the Pro Bowl game has the advantage of still being a better spectacle than basketball.

[Gray Fox]

Mahows just hating because Jarvis Landry is a more accurate passer than Jackson.

[Giggles]

Jackson looked every bit the running back during that one.

[Dan]

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The carousel has started turning :drool:

[Gray Fox]

Cam Newton to LA, anyone?

[phonics]

Brady instead?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Atwater has finally made it into the HOF.

Full list is:

Safety Steve Atwater, wide receiver Isaac Bruce, guard Steve Hutchinson, running back Edgerrin James and safety Troy Polamalu.

[Gray Fox]

MVP - Jackson
ROTY - Bosa
DPOY - Gilmore
OPOY - Thomas
DROY - Bosa
OROY - Kyler Murray

Comback player - Tannehill
Walter Payton - Calais Campbell

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Only the second unanimous MVP (Brady 2010 the first) which is pretty cool.

Also, lol at Cam Newton. He had about double the social media 'interactions' for Man of the Year than anyone else and still lost.

The Madden twitter is up in arms because Cam wont be getting a new card.

[Gray Fox]

I wish they'd do the awards closer to the end of the regular season. It was clearly Jackson and now it feels a little soured because of the play-off crash out.

Also, fuck Cam.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He turned up looking like this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPu4pKGW4AAO1D2?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

And that's why he didn't win...

[Giggles]

Butler was better than both Atwater and Polamalu.

[Ian]

Atwater was a bit before my time but it's always nice to see another Bronco in.

And speaking of Denver, saw a thing with Arthur Blank saying he reckons Falcons / Broncos is a goer in London this year so I guess I'd best start saving my pennies.

[Giggles]

I think the Packers are over this year but for the sake of a few extra hours on the plane it would probably be easier to try go to Lambeau for a game. I think the Wembley atmosphere is supposed to be really odd too.

[niko_cee]

A few extra hours and a shedload more cash, mind.

Probably stretching the legitimate use of the word few as well.

The 'atmosphere' at any NFL game is going to be largely gak.

[Giggles]

I’d rather support for one team one way or the other though rather than fans of 32 teams all in a stadium at the one time and 75% of them not having a clue what’s going on.

Plus there’s the stadium tour, Packers hall of fame, etc. It’s Lambeau.

[Gray Fox]

It is odd. Considering one team is supposed to be the home team too. One of the games at Wembley this year had the support all the other way around too. Got to be frustrating for the players.

When they had one at Twickenham we were sat next to a couple who had season tickets for Twickenham itself. They'd never seen a snap before but came along as their ticket is already bought. They left after the 1st quarter.

If you don't take it too seriously it's great, but there's obviously no comparison to going out there. Especially to somewhere like Lambeau.

[Ian]

Yeah of you take it as a fun day out with some gridiron then it's good bit it's not like going to actually see your team in their stadium.

Couple of times I've been we've been sat in amongst some good people and it's been fun.

[Browning]

Atwater was a bit before my time but it's always nice to see another Bronco in.

And speaking of Denver, saw a thing with Arthur Blank saying he reckons Falcons / Broncos is a goer in London this year so I guess I'd best start saving my pennies.

Simpsons Bowl rematch :drool:

Will refuse to discuss it without a beer to hold in front of my mouth.

[Foe]

Hope kc do it tonight. Although I don’t dislike the 49ers, kc deserve it for the last 2 seasons.

Funny if Brady leaves the patriots and jimmy g winds up super bowl MVP.

There’s so much offence available tonight, got to hope it shines unlike last years defensive shit storm.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Do they fuck.

I hope they lose because the have so many twats and the media wankathon over MVPAT will be unbearable.

I'm hoping Mostert drives the bus right through the pricks.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Also:

£2.50 on Mostert first TD scorer & Niners win
£2.50 on Mostert 1+ TD in each half
£10 on Moster 100+ rushing yards & 1+ TD.

[Gray Fox]

I hope they lose because the have so many twats and the media wankathon over MVPAT will be unbearable.

This.

The Broncos gave us mercy from Cam Newton, we must be saved again by the NFC.

[Dan]

God I hope this game lives up to the hype.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Buck and Aikman though, ffs.

[Dan]

Chiefs go three & out to start. 49ers defence is elite. 50-0 victory assured.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Niners have started HOT.

[Ian]

This.

The Broncos gave us mercy from Cam Newton, we must be saved again by the NFC.

:drool:

Also lol at gamepass going down.

[Dan]

Deebo :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:drool:

Also lol at gamepass going down.

It's on BBC One.

[Dan]

:drool:

Also lol at gamepass going down.

It's such a shit service for something provided by a company that makes billions of dollars :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's such a shit service for something provided by a company that makes billions of dollars :D

I'm pretty sure that they still don't support PS4 Europe or Amazon's Fire Stick.

They didn't last season at least.

[Ian]

It's on BBC One.

Yeah we've switched over. But long as I've got BBC on there's more chance that they have the thoughts of Martin O'Neill or some cunt from JLS or something on.

[Pleb]

If the Chiefs defence play like they did against the Titans :moop:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah we've switched over. But long as I've got BBC on there's more chance that they have the thoughts of Martin O'Neill or some cunt from JLS or something on.

Fortunately I don't think they do that for the Super Bowl. Largely because your fairweather UK celebrity fan isn't going to fly over to watch.

[Dan]

Yeah we've switched over. But long as I've got BBC on there's more chance that they have the thoughts of Martin O'Neill or some cunt from JLS or something on.

Yeah, this is the issue I have - the BBC coverage is reliable, and looks to be about 15-20 seconds ahead of where GamePass has come back, but then every break you get the BBC NFL squad & Mike explaining what play action is, and I'd rather watch the adverts.

[Dan]

Mahomes is so good that Jimmy Ward hit him & hurt himself.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mahomes would have pitched it had Tartt tried to tackle him but he should have hit him.

A pitch can always result in a fumble or something.

[Dan]

Tartt learnt from Ward not to touch MVPat if you want to stay healthy.

Oh, Jimmy :face:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

ffs Jimmy.

[Dan]

"Dance with the horse that brung you" :D

BBC coverage team on fire so far.

[Dan]

Juice Check :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

JUICE CHECK :cool:

Great drive.

[Ian]

Liked that drive.

[Gray Fox]

Running it right down your throat. Love it.

Someone break Mahomes.

[phonics]

How long is half time?

[Gray Fox]

At the Superbowl about 10 hours.

[Dan]

Not sure what the logic is in just voluntarily surrendering a 2min drill against the chiefs but okay.

[Gray Fox]

We need more of this from San Fran.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8Rh6KuuH6w

[phonics]

No but seriously how long should I come back in?

[Gray Fox]

Half an hour or so.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I was liking it when it was just Shakira.

Gone downhill since the weird silvery rapper and J Lo.

[Ian]

Why did Shakira randomly and very briefly sample Cashmere there???

[Dan]

Hispanic Riverdance?

[Dan]

Mahomes worst QB of all time.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Chiefs are on the ropes.

[Ian]

Early doors I really thought the Chiefs were going to be extending that lead slowly but surely so this is a pleasant surprise.

I've really enjoyed this so far because there's been a bit in it for everyone.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bosa is starting to get going now too.

[Dan]

Oh boy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Off the hands of the child beater :drool:

[igor_balis]

Gg

[Ian]

Off the hands of the child beater :drool:

:drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

No catch but I don't know if there's enough to overturn it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That was a bullshit flag.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think he was short but the replay was bollocks. It kept rolling a split second too long.

[Ian]

Gamepass going again as they're looking at the TD. :D

Imagine paying for this

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jimmy G had Sanders on third down too ffs.

[Ian]

Am I being harsh in feeling like the Niners flubbed it a bit here? The Chiefs are obviously good and Williams has had his reward for doing a lot of dirty work through the first few quarters but San Francisco have taken their boot of the Chiefs' neck here.

[Browning]

Jimmy bottled it hard even before the Sanders over throw, the two plays before both should have been picked.

But when you put a sorry CB on any Chiefs WR that’s the result you’re gonna get.

[Ian]

"Will this go down as the Mahomes Super Bowl?"

It fucking shouldn't.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jimmy bottle show or Damien Williams bowl.

[Ian]

Should absolutely be Williams.

[Browning]

Are they conducting these interviews under water?

[Ian]

That sound was awful.

And fucking lol at Mahomes getting MVP. They're desperate to make this about him.

[Gray Fox]

Niners bottled that the drive after the Chiefs scored to make it 20-17. Got 5 yards on a run then tried to pass it twice, killed only about 40 seconds and gave the Chiefs field position.

Shanahan on BINMAN WATCH.

Still after all that, Jimmy had Sanders open for a TD and then blew it. Then he just tried to get it down the field too quickly. Should have taken it in 10 yard plays out of bounds.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jimmy didn't know what to do with the pressure. He had no feel for it at all for the entire game. He just wanted to stand in the pocket and wanted more time than the pass rush was allowing him.

Chiefs weren't disguising their blitzes you could see they were coming and from which side. No adjustments were made and he would just wait to be swallowed up.

Oh and Damien Williams was robbed.

[Giggles]

Glad I didn’t stay up for that by the sounds of it.

[Giggles]

Delighted for Kyle Shanahan reinforcing his bottler tag though. He’s one media wankfest they can shut down for a while.

[Foe]

That was so much better than last year.

Hadn’t realised Sammy Watkins was on such an enormous contract in kc but hey, they’ve built a great offence.

49ers offence just stalled entirely in the fourth quarter. Not like the 49ers defence played badly, giving up 31 to the chiefs isn’t actually that bad. But no chance you’re winning that game with 20 points of your own. 28-30 point minimum to have a shot and it just didn’t happen.

Garapollos stats in the playoffs must be some of the statistical poorest of all time.

[Giggles]

I know it’s the done thing for the winning QB to get it but it must have been fairly low on quality overall if Mahomes got the MVP throwing two interceptions. The first of which was one of the worst throws I’ve ever seen.

[Ian]

It was just desperation for everything to be down to Mahomes, from that to the commentary.

It should have been Williams.

[Dan]

Not sure what the logic is in just voluntarily surrendering a 2min drill against the chiefs but okay.

This is where Shanahan started to let it slip away. He got too conservative & they let KC get back into it, and when they hit that long completion to Tyreek on third down you could see how this was going to end up. Jimmy G melting in the fourth quarter didn't help either.

Oh, and I'd have gone Sammy Watkins for MVP, probably.

[bruhnaldo]

the only touchdown and 38 of Damien Williams 104 yards came when the game was basically won I think that's why they didn't go with him tbh.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They didn't go with him because people are idiots who can't see past the QB.

[bruhnaldo]

Perhaps you're trying too hard to do so. Both of the TD drives that put Kansas City ahead were entirely Mahomes. Once they stopped them on downs on the next drive they were simply going to hand it off to try to get the first down and subsequently run out the clock, in which Williams added 2 carries and 42 yards to his total.

Basically, when the game was on the line Williams went 15/62 yards and the Chiefs offense couldn't get anything going until they basically abandoned the running game for Mahomes lead touchdown drives, only running Williams once for two yards over those 16 plays.

[Giggles]

Now that that’s out of the way, BT have two live XFL games on Saturday.

[bruhnaldo]

we should do a random draw for XFL teams

[bruhnaldo]

Tampa Bay Vipers
Dallas Renegades
Houston Roughnecks
Seattle Dragons
New York Guardians
Los Angeles Wildcats
St. Louis Battlehawks
DC Defenders

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Perhaps you're trying too hard to do so. Both of the TD drives that put Kansas City ahead were entirely Mahomes. Once they stopped them on downs on the next drive they were simply going to hand it off to try to get the first down and subsequently run out the clock, in which Williams added 2 carries and 42 yards to his total.

Basically, when the game was on the line Williams went 15/62 yards and the Chiefs offense couldn't get anything going until they basically abandoned the running game for Mahomes lead touchdown drives, only running Williams once for two yards over those 16 plays.

Mahomes had how many good drives and how many bad ones?

He was terrible for most of that game.

[bruhnaldo]

Sure he didn't play lights out by any stretch but Mahomes was literally the catalyst for all 3 of KC's important TD drives and Williams, while he certainly contributed, did so mostly in the most inconsequential series of the game considering the 49ers were defeated and praying they could keep KC from gaining 10 yards.

[Giggles]

I see Winston Moss running the LA team but still has to be Dallas for me.

[thommo]

Damien Williams should still be winning the MVP for me. Over 130 yards and 2 TDs in the Superbowl is a top stat line, and then you consider he put up the lead-taking TD stretching it over the line as he goes out of bounds (although I question whether it was actually in, but that's another question). First half he was a key part of them getting 10-3 up too, KC kept it on the ground and he was getting good yardage on most of the attempts.

The only reason that KC found themselves 10 down were the two awful picks that Mahomes threw. Yes he made a few nice plays in the comeback drives but it's not enough to be an MVP when you've almost thrown the game away and your defence has bailed you out in the 4th.

I'd also put Chris Jones forward for MVP contention for the sheer number of pressures he applied to Jimmy G, but defensive players are sorely overlooked in the MVP discussion.

[bruhnaldo]

Yes he made a few nice plays in the comeback drives but it's not enough to be an MVP

But you're saying Williams does quite literally because he stretched his arm out on 5 yard pass after Mahomes drove them down to the 5 himself?

[thommo]

But you're saying Williams does quite literally because he stretched his arm out on 5 yard pass after Mahomes drove them down to the 5 himself?

I'm saying that's a key play in a 130 yard, 2 TD day for Williams, one of the biggest plays of the whole Superbowl. He didn't make a play that caused further problems for KC, whereas Mahomes did.

[bruhnaldo]

Yea but....

Ah you know what fuck it.

[igor_balis]

Was a great game. Kinda wanted san fran to win cus I've the classic dickhead instinct towards internal backlash against hero worship of sporting superstars, so even though mahomes is clearly class I just can't warm to his ilk. Didnt get the same sense of outright dread and anger I got/get when 90s man utd/Patriots come back though, and on balance I thought yeah fair play.

I love a party pooper but chiefs probably deserved it, san Fran also have nobody to blame but themselves. Sorta like the American football equivalent of a team sitting deeper and deeper holding on to a 1-0 lead and you just know they're gonna concede.

[niko_cee]

KC :cool:

What was the deal with them continually getting to within a yard of the first down and then cutting in and not making said distance? Was driving me mad.

They're always going to give Mahomes (or any star QB) the MVP unless someone else has an unbelievable game offensively, or if it's a defensive shitfest. Good to see a high flying offence get over a top rated defence in the big one for once.

[Ian]

Loving The Donald praising the GREAT STATE OF KANSAS for their Super Bowl win.

Good work, moron.

[Ian]

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Fuck off.

[niko_cee]

I had no idea about this Kansas City geographical anomaly.

[Ian]

Which is fine if you're not in charge of the country where that's the case.

[phonics]

KC :cool:

What was the deal with them continually getting to within a yard of the first down and then cutting in and not making said distance? Was driving me mad.

Probably that they don't have a bright yellow line to base that off.

[niko_cee]

They know exactly where the first down line is, every time, without needing to refer to imaginary lines, or the very real massive fucking pylons on the side of the pitch.

That's 'Receiving and route-running 101' as I believe would be the parlance.

[Gray Fox]

Most routes are designed to break after x yards, so they know damn well without looking. It'd be like asking a goalkeeper where his goal is without him looking.

In other news, DOUBLE MINSHEW MANIA is ON as the Jags have agreed to play 2 back-to-back UK home games in 2020.

[bruhnaldo]

I mean they so often run the route short though. This wild characterization they ALWAYS know is a little extreme.

[niko_cee]

It was more that they were cutting to try and get extra yards, but it must have happened 2 or 3 times where they were almost literally at the 1st down line (Hill and Kelce definitely did it) before stepping back and ending up with an X and 1 instead of a first down, which, to me, was quite frustrating.

[Giggles]

If they regularly don’t know then they should be playing this coming weekend.

[bruhnaldo]

It was more that they were cutting to try and get extra yards, but it must have happened 2 or 3 times where they were almost literally at the 1st down line (Hill and Kelce definitely did it) before stepping back and ending up with an X and 1 instead of a first down, which, to me, was quite frustrating.

Oh no I mean Kelce did it one time where it was so blatant I got pissed off and I had no horse in the race.

What I mean is, though, you were saying "They know exactly where the first down line is, every time, without needing to refer to imaginary lines, or the very real massive fucking pylons on the side of the pitch." man do you know how many times these dumb assholes have ran an out route and came up a yard or two short on 3rd down and how many times I've wanted to fuckin reach through the tv and choke them the fuck out lol


If they regularly don’t know then they should be playing this coming weekend.

lol and nah for sure it doesn't happen ALL the time but when it does it drives me insane.

[Foe]

Eric Weddle retired.

[Giggles]

:D

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[Ian]

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2020/02/06/man-plans-to-sue-nfl-over-super-bowl-halftime-show

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Can I sue them for not getting them to show more skin?

[Giggles]

XFL time!

Kickoffs look weird.

[Gray Fox]

Go Vipers.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Wtf are these kickoffs?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I do like that we can hear the mic'd up coaches and QB.

Edit: I'm also between Defenders (Elam and Cardale) or Guardians (uni).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cracking play by Cardale.

Enjoying this so far.

[Dan]

Ah shit, forgot this was today :moop: Out to the cinema so I’ll catch up tomorrow. Did I hear that it’s on BT ESPN?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

BT Sport 3.

[Giggles]

ESPN Player also.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Player says 'Fucking' in an interview and we get a punt block TD within about 30 seconds. Scenes.

[Dan]

Got home just in time to watch Chad Kanoff throw a hissy fit.

[Pleb]

I'm liking this XFL.

Going for it at 4 and 8 :D

[Pleb]

I also like the fact that the clock is constantly active when there's a dead ball and/or penalty which is fucking wild.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I only watched the first half of the first game but I enjoyed it.

[Dan]

Yeah, just watched the highlights of both games & it was pretty good. Quality is about the same as the AAF, but the rule changes help give it something different.

Cardale Jones looks to be the best of the four QBs that played, although Phillip Walker had a really strong game up until he threw a pick at the end. The two former Cooper Kupp backups Nelson Spruce & Austin Proehl stood out as well. Tyree Jackson, however, embarrassed himself in the few snaps he took - just seemed to have no idea what to do & got himself sacked on two conversion attempts.

[Giggles]

Is Austin Proehl anything to Ricky?

I liked what I seen of the first game.

[Foe]

Think spruce was looking pretty solid in that series of hard knocks but has a duff knee. Wouldn’t be surprised if someone took a swing on him next season.

[Dan]

Yeah, I think Austin is his son.

I’d imagine you’ll get Proehl & Spruce, Cardale, Kony Ealy & Rashad Ross at least get a look through training camp, plus anyone else who emerges & people I’ve forgotten from the teams that haven’t played yet. Tyree will get a look too just because of TRAITS.

[Pleb]

Greg Olson as a commentator? :|

[Dan]

He did a few games last season & they loved him, so he'll be doing it full-time as soon as he decides he doesn't want to play next year.

[Giggles]

I know the stadium is bigger but the crowd looks seriously poor at this one.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

No catch for me but that was some hit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lol at them using an Xbox controller.

[Pleb]

Some weird looking cheerleading squad during intermission on my stream :D

Player mics not even working :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Vipers are looking pretty shit.

[Dan]

Ricky Walker :face:

These teams don't look quite as good as DC & Houston did, although NY do have my boy from the AAF Jamar Summers.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cracking catch.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Murray sucks.

[Dan]

Jamar :cool:

The Tampa Bay Vipers are the worst team in the league by miles so far.

[Pleb]

Clearly they are channeling the LOLphins.

[Pleb]

The offensive playcalls from the Vipers are so :D

[Dan]

Jesus, it took about two minutes for the Vipers to decide whether they wanted to take a 10 second runoff or not. Marc Trestman is doing a fantastic job outing himself as a terrible head coach.

This whole offence has just been an utter disaster.

[Dan]

I liked Jordan Ta'amu coming out of college, so hopefully he doesn't shit the bed here.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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RIP Rivers.

[Giggles]

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RIP Rivers.

Was that not a couple of weeks ago?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It wasn't official back then.

[bruhnaldo]

Clearly they are channeling the LOLphins.

You know we finished the season 5-4, so.