The NFL Thread

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We also cut Quincy Adeboyejo yesterday.

Wont mean anything to anyone other than Ravens fans but he was one of those guys who always looked fucking amazing in pre-season/training camp before getting injured for the year.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001037286/article/antonio-brown-goes-to-raiders-camp-in-hot-air-balloon

Nonce.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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[Dan]

They've got one hell of a front four now. Shame about everything else.

[Dan]

Giants camp has opened up with Sterling Shepard breaking his thumb & Corey Coleman tearing his ACL.

You don't deserve this Saquon :console:

Golden Tate suspended four games as well :D

[Dan]

Cardinals have cut Robert Nkemdiche after he reported to training came out of shape having recently been arrested for speeding & driving without a licence.

His response was to post an Instagram message including the phrase "I'll internally bleed red forever...", so at least he can always go back to being a doctor.

[Dan]

We’ve cut Cam Meredith & signed Patrick Omameh.

Josh Johnson, meanwhile, has turned down a contract offer from the Ravens. I’m not sure which side of that is funnier.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He didn't want to be a camp arm apparently.

Probably hoping for a longer term injury to a backup so he has a contract that lasts more than 2 weeks.

[Dan]

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Sad times :(

[Ian]

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/07/30/roger-goodell-testify-rams-saints-nfc-championship-game

Ban these cunts from ever attending a sporting event again.

Jesus Christ.

[Browning]

So what about the blatant face mask they missed a few players earlier that would have wrapped it up for the Rams?

There’s no way that law suit should be entertained.

[Ian]

It's bonkers that it's actually gone to court.

What if they'd gone out because a kicker had missed a field goal as the clock ran out at the end? Would they be suing him?

[Dan]

Hey. Hey. You. Yeah, you. Check this out...

12hrs until football :drool:

[Ian]

My team's playing and I still can't muster the energy to be particularly interested in the Hall of Fame game.

I had to learn the other day what a Kevin Hogan is.

[Dan]

Didn’t he start games for someone last season?

It was the Browns two seasons ago - remembered him being in Washington but he didn’t even make the team.

[Ian]

Wikipedia tells me he has 8 appearances for the Browns including one start in 2016 and 2017.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Didn't he make his name at the Bills?

[Ian]

Denver are his fourth team and he's only played an NFL game for Cleveland.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I was thinking of Chris Hogan.

Hulkamania really did run wild in the 80s.

[Dan]

Riddick expected to sign with the Broncos, lol.

That's another backfield ruined for fantasy.

[Ian]

https://i.imgur.com/IMnX045.png

Null looks a bit of a talent.

[Dan]

Muhammad looked decent, to be fair - at the least he’s got serious speed.

Kurt Benkert was crushing it though. Definitely worth giving him the QB2 role over Schaub

[Foe]

Is the new series of hard knocks started yet? Assume it's on sky sports?

As an aside, jordy Nelson is head back to Green Bay.

to retire

[Foe]

Starts on thursday lads. Answered my own question.

[Ian]

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Excellent.

[Giggles]

Only seen today that the journalist Don Banks died suddenly. Used to like his stuff back when he was with Sports Illustrated.

[Ian]

Yeah, he was a really good writer.

[Dan]

Giants offence booed off the field on their first possession of their first preseason game :D

Oh, and Chandler Catanzaro is 0/1 on extra points this season. I hope the Jets have another kicker in their camp.

EDIT: Daniel Jones comes in & completes 5/5 for 67yds & a TD. Giants are winning the Superbowl now.

Daniel Jones was so good they decided to call the rest of the game off.

[Ian]

Getting donned by Paxton Lynch. :drool:

Geno Smith still existing and going 3/9. :drool::drool:

Sounds like Lock had a better showing than the HOF game. We made completions to 16 different players. Some of whom I've even heard of.

[Dan]

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Pretty great story (https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/the-improbable-story-of-how-little-known-wr-damon-sheehy-guiseppi-landed-a-tryou)

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Kearse broke his leg.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Kenny Young is trying to get his starting spot which currently belongs to UDFA Chris Board.

Also, Vedvik is still amazing. 4/4 last night including one from 55.

Jets, Bears, whoever else has a crummy kicker we'll take a second rounder.

[Dan]

What an unfortunate time to bobble a snap :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Christian Wade 1 carry, 65 yards, 1 TD.

[thommo]

Catching up on all the various clips and stories from last night has started to build real excitement for the coming season. It is nice to have the off season lull but I can’t wait to be vegging out in front of RedZone every Sunday night.

I’ve missed the first ep of Hard Knocks so will catch up tonight - anyone seen it?

[Pleb]

Giants offence booed off the field on their first possession of their first preseason game :D

Oh, and Chandler Catanzaro is 0/1 on extra points this season. I hope the Jets have another kicker in their camp.

EDIT: Daniel Jones comes in & completes 5/5 for 67yds & a TD. Giants are winning the Superbowl now.

Daniel Jones was so good they decided to call the rest of the game off.
We got kickers lining up as I type.

That being said we're going 0 and 16 this year or is that the Giants again? :baz:

[Giggles]

Catching up on all the various clips and stories from last night has started to build real excitement for the coming season. It is nice to have the off season lull but I can’t wait to be vegging out in front of RedZone every Sunday night.

I’ve missed the first ep of Hard Knocks so will catch up tonight - anyone seen it?

Yeah. It's still too much fluff and not enough camp but it's ok.

[thommo]

Yeah. It's still too much fluff and not enough camp but it's ok.

Fair enough. As long as it is better than the year they covered the Rams. All I think I learnt from that was how fucking stupid William Hayes is.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Texans one might be my favourite.

Vince Wilfork and that outfit :cool:

I also watched the Panthers All or Nothing having skipped the Cowboys one. Cam is a proper fucking tool.

[Dan]

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Christian Wade 1 carry, 65 yards, 1 TD.

As if that RB group needs to get any more of a clusterfuck.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Antonio Brown threatening to retire because his helmet is too old to be worn :lol:

[John]

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A decent summary of what a fucking circus act he is.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He doesn't even need to switch model, it's just that his current helmet is more than 10 years old:

https://sports.yahoo.com/source-antonio-brown-preferred-helmet-202204574.html

He could literally buy the exact same model.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sneaking the helmet back in twice :D

That thread is great.

[Giggles]

The Steelers should be delighted. And anyone else that didn't sign him.

[Dan]

Yeah. It's still too much fluff and not enough camp but it's ok.

Jonathan Abram is going to be the best part of the show (aside from all the AB shenanigans, obviously)

[Dan]

Time to start working through these preseason games then.

- Erik McCoy looks like he's going to slide right in as the Saints starting center & nobody's even going to know Max Unger left. Deonte Harris looks like he could break off some big returns this season, and Cyril Grayson Jr could be a decent alternative. Secondary looked a little shaky though, with Eli Apple & Patrick Robinson both getting mugged for big plays. Tackling wasn't great all round either, and Marcus Davenport still doesn't seem to quite be there yet. On the other side, I have no idea why Minnesota paid Kyle Rudolph when they have Irv Smith & Tyler Conklin, who did a nice job showing why he's getting the nickname Gronklin. Also the Mike Boone hype train will roll again this preaseason.

- Preston Williams is the new DeVante Parker in Miami. Poor Josh Rosen has managed to go from a team with a bottom 3 O-Line last season to one with a bottom 3 0-Line this season. Odds are already stacked against him again.

- Patriots shitting on Detroit :harold: Think they must have had 10 sacks. Good to see my boy Jakobi Meyers running wild, and Maurice Harris also had a nice TD catch. Kenny Wiggins has been getting destroyed by Lions fans on Twitter, so he might not be running with the starters next week. Amani Oruwariye had some rookie moments as well.

[John]

I've only watched the highlights of the Browns v Skins game, but with the exception of one badly blown coverage which went for a touchdown they looked absolutely brilliant. Rashard Higgins in particular stood out in a big way.

[Dan]

Yeah, he's another one I've always liked. Might not be the flashiest player but he always seems to deliver when he's needed. Not watched the full game yet, but Baker's opening drive looked very impressive.

Just picking up again with the Cardinals game & then I'll probably give them a look.

- Austin Ekeler's cutting ability immediately stands out - made a couple of sharp cuts for big gains on the first drive. Shame he finished the drive with a fumble though. Melvin Gordon better sign whatever offer is on the table fast, because I'm not sure the Chargers would actually miss him that much. Ekeler & Jackson would probably give them at least 75% of the production for a fraction of the price, and despite that I don't think there's another team that would be a better situation for Gordon than LAC. Kyler Murray, meanwhile :drool: He just looks like he's out there warming up but then he throws the ball & it flies off his hand. He's accurate, he's elusive, he's got the arm talent to do all the ridiculous stuff Mahomes can do, I'm sold. Also nice to see Drue Tranquill nabbing a pick & Lamont Gaillard looking decent a LG & C for the Cards.

- Mack Wilson showing his talent & grabbing two picks to go with one for Greedy. Think the Browns will be okay this year. Haskins looked like a guy with one year of college experience, but he'll get there (assuming he's not fucked by his surroundings like Rosen).

- Brian Burns with 2 sacks & Elijah Holyfield with 2 TDs for Carolina :cool: David Montgomery pulling a few moves out of the bag of tricks was fun too. I'm concerned Carolina are going to be good again this year.

[Dan]

Get ready to say goodbye Sir Andy Mahowry

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[Giggles]

Has to be GB and Chicago.

[Browning]

He’s gone to Minnesota.

[Dan]

Green Bay will never give up on Mason Crosby.

[Giggles]

They should have a long time ago.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Surprised the Bears didn't attempt to kidnap him.

I hope he smashes it.

[Dan]

Probably more one for Foe

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No idea who the kid is but I love that Tate Martell threw a hissy fit because he’d have to compete for the job at Ohio State, transferred to Miami & then lost out to a freshman :D

Fuck that guy.

[Foe]

Probably more one for Foe

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No idea who the kid is but I love that Tate Martell threw a hissy fit because he’d have to compete for the job at Ohio State, transferred to Miami & then lost out to a freshman :D

Fuck that guy.

Christ alive. Going to be the most successful high school quaterback to completely bomb at college.

Shame really as he did look pretty damned good in qb1.

Wonder if that smoking hot gf of his will leave him now ;)

[Giggles]

He comes across as a right dickhead on QB1.

[Giggles]

The sister was some bit of biscuit. You always got the feeling she wanted to get too close banjo style though.

[Dan]

probably more one for foe

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no idea who the kid is but i love that tate martell threw a hissy fit because he’d have to compete for the job at ohio state, transferred to miami & then lost out to a freshman :d

fuck that guy.

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You hate to see it.

[John]

Dak Prescott has apparently knocked back thirty million a year and is holding out for forty.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:harold:

[Dan]

He does realise that the franchise tag exists, right? He'd need an elite season this year to justfy more than $30m, and if he keeps dicking them about they'd probably just tag him & see if he can do it again.

There's no way they can keep Dak, Zeke, Cooper, Byron Jones & Jaylon Smith. They'd take up about half of the cap between them & they also have half their O-Line on $10m a year, so they'd pretty much have to cut their entire roster & fill it up with rookies & veteran minimum guys to get under the cap.

EDIT: Let's say the 2020 cap is $200m...

Zeke $15m
Dak $35m
Cooper $20m
Jaylon $17m
Byron $18m

They already have:

Lawrence $21m cap hit in 2020
Zack Martin $15m
Tyron Smith $13.5m
Travis Frederick $12m
Tyrone Crawford $9m (1000% getting cut to save $8m)
Cameron Fleming $5.25m (they'd save $4.5m by cutting him)
Leighton Vander Esch $3.25m

Just over $170m in cap space on ten roster spots :harold:

[Dan]

Still working my way through the preseason games:

- It's been a good week for my guys. Jalen Hurd joins Elijah Holyfield & Jakobi Meyers in the 2 TD club. I'm still mad we didn't manage to get him on the Saints :( Deebo played well too - I was surprised how fast he looked on the end around, as I didn't really see that type of acceleration on his college tape, even though he broke off multiple kick return TDs etc. Also, Cooper Rush peppered the shit out of Blake Jarwin. I can't see how he isn't better than Jason Witten at this point in time.

- Speaking of guys getting peppered with targets, Adam Humphries seems pretty popular with Mariota. Watched this one last night so don't really remember a great deal but Clayton Thorson didn't look good & JJAW did.

[Dan]

Probably more one for Foe

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No idea who the kid is but I love that Tate Martell threw a hissy fit because he’d have to compete for the job at Ohio State, transferred to Miami & then lost out to a freshman :D

Fuck that guy.

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Good to see him taking it in stride & knuckling down to prove he deserves the spot like a true pro.

[Gray Fox]

What a guy.

Did I see him saying something about now looking to go to Texas A&M? Or was that before he went to Miami?

[bruhnaldo]

We talkin Miami Hurricanes football in here?!!?!?!? How nice.

Martell's sister is a fuckin herb.

[Ian]

I forgot what thread I was in there, saw "Hurricanes football" and thought of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56ofjCI7QmA

[Dan]

What a guy.

Did I see him saying something about now looking to go to Texas A&M? Or was that before he went to Miami?

If I remember rightly that was where he first committed, before he de-committed to go to Ohio State, where he decided to transfer when Justin Fields arrived, and now we're here. He's going to be the greatest high school QB to ever serve you at McDonalds in three years time.

[Gray Fox]

Only if the new kid doesn't come in and do the fries better than him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He'll transfer to Burger King.

[Dan]

Forgot preseason week 2 starts tonight, so just running through a couple more week 1 games:
- Shaquem Griffin knocking the ball out on the opening kick off :cool: Drew Lock not looking particularly good, a few simple completions sabotaged by bad ball placement. Nevermind, that was actually Kevin Hogan :D It became pretty easy to spot the mistake when the second guy came in & was a foot taller with a cannon. DK roasted a couple of backup corners on double moves, but both times the ball was just out of reach. I was more interested to see that he set up for a couple of screens, which could potentially be hilarious if he gets the ball with a five yard runup on a 190lb corner. Jazz Ferguson & Ugo Amadi also flashed for Seattle, and Marquise Blair killed a man so he should be set as the new Kam Chancellor.

- Colts/Bills was fairly bland. Deon Cain doing Deon Cain things (by which I mean 'concentration drops'), Devin Singletary doing Devin Singletary things (by which I mean 'being an elusive bastard', and TJ Yeldon confirming he's going to get beaten out for a roster spot by Seniorse Perry.

- Good to see my big, slow boy Auden Tate seeing some first team reps with the Bengals & making plays. Speaking of big & slow, Mecole Hardman is neither of those things.

EDIT: Jesus, Colts second year WR Daurice Fountain has apparently broken & dislocated his left ankle. Could hear him screaming from the sideline :uhoh: Sounds like he'd been crushing it in camp as well, so hopefully he'll be able to come back & play next season.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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:drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Our nickel corner, Tavon Young could miss the entire year with a neck injury :moop:

[Ian]

A Raven injured? I refuse to believe it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

A defender too.

What are the odds?

[Dan]

Not content with just having college players play for free, the Louisiana Raging Cajuns are now ‘strongly encouraging’ all players to pay at least $50 to their athletic foundations booster fund to ‘show their gratitude’ (https://es.pn/2TBR8lH)

No idea if that link actually works or not, I’m on my phone trying to link from the ESPN app.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Wade had no TD's but came close.

[Dan]

The move to make three guys miss at once was pretty impressive. The one last week wasn’t much more than just running through a huge hole, but this was an actual quality play.

He’s still going to struggle to make the roster, but if they can trade McCoy he’s got a shot at getting there as the fourth guy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Someone pointed out in the comments that he's still very Rugby in his style though because if he ran right there was only 1 defender by two Bills' blockers. Would have likely been a TD had he cut that way instead of the open space.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Laundry Jones is the first XFL signee.

[Giggles]

Rashan Gary is looking like a waste of time already. Good job they'd already signed the Smiths.

[Giggles]

How do I get the proper NFL.com homepage instead of this constant gamepass shite and NFL UK bollocks?

[Giggles]

Cedric Benson is dead.

https://amp.si.com/nfl/2019/08/18/cedric-benson-death-texas-longhorns-bears-bengals

[Ian]

Speaking of Gamepass my brother in law tells me I can use his Gamepass whenever I like as it doesn't restrict multiple users so I'm going to get all the Flacco I want this season.

[Giggles]

Speaking of Gamepass my brother in law tells me I can use his Gamepass whenever I like as it doesn't restrict multiple users so I'm going to get all the Flacco I want this season.

Sorry for your troubles.

[Ian]

Appreciated.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The pain you are to experience will be worse than you can imagine.

[Ian]

I have paid money to watch Gary Caldwell play football, so this can only be so bad.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I didn't realise that you were that much of a deviant.

[Ian]

I dunno if I said on here that I had a Broncos jersey on for some event (maybe the wrasslin) and a guy tried to call me out as a fairweather. I told him I'd been watching since Denver had Jake the Snake, who this guy had never even heard of.

Conversation won.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

For a second I genuinely wondered if Jake Roberts had played for the Broncos at any time in his life.

[Ian]

That'd be amazing to be fair.

[Dan]

D'Ernest Johnson looked pretty good for the Browns this week - he & Hilliard should be perfectly adequate depth behind Nick Chubb for the first half of the year. Deon Cain showing up on the other side too. Hopefully he'll slowly reel in Funchess over the course of the season

[Giggles]

Benson being in the news reminded me of this game. That Buffs team :cool:


https://youtu.be/U4emo_ct02I

[Foe]

Deon cain must have had some of the field issues because he was pretty prominent in college too.

Hopefully he holds life together. Also interesting seeing Jeremy mcnichols get a td at the titans. Maybe walking out on the bucs in hard knocks wasn't career suicide.

[Dan]

Deon cain must have had some of the field issues because he was pretty prominent in college too.

Hopefully he holds life together. Also interesting seeing Jeremy mcnichols get a td at the titans. Maybe walking out on the bucs in hard knocks wasn't career suicide.

I don’t remember there being any huge character issues with him, although having just checked he did fail a drug test in 2015. I think it was more just him being inconsistent & not having the production to back up the talent.

Think Kelvin Harmon this year. He’s another’s one who will outperform their draft slot.

[Dan]

Just catching up with episode two of 'The Jonathan Abram Show featuring the Oakland Raiders', and it was pretty nice to see a few of the lesser known rookies getting some screen time. I did also enjoy Richie Incognito preaching non-violence as someone who recently threatened to shoot up a funeral home.

Abram is going to be a captain on that team by next season though. He's exactly what they need.

[Dan]

Just watching Saints/Chargers, and you know what? Taysom Hill has actually played pretty well - obviously all the usual stuff is there with his legs, but he's been more accurate than usual as a passer. Devine Ozigbo still shows promise despite a fumble where he nearly got hit out of the stadium by Denzel Perryman as he slipped, and Deonte Harris continues to show value as a returner. We look like we'll be hard to run on again this year, even without Sheldon Rankins, but it'll really depend on how well the secondary holds up around Lattimore & Vonn Bell.

As for the Chargers, it's good to see Detrez Newsome still running hard after showing well in the preseason last year, although he almost certainly still won't make the 53. Their second & third string dudes on defence were just blowing guys up all through the game as well, so I feel like they'll probably still be alright without Derwin. Jerry Tillery made Nick Easton look invisible for a sack, which is a great sign for them - he could be exactly what they need at DT, so it wouldn't be at all surprising if he starts early.

[Dan]

XFL have revealed their team names...

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[Giggles]

That'll end well.

[Ian]

BattleHawks is particularly lol.

[Giggles]

Once football fans realise the football is shite and once WWE fans realise there's no gimmicks and breaking chairs over each other, there won't be anyone left watching and it'll be another AAF or UFL.

[Gray Fox]

All about the Tampa Bay Vipers.

We need jerseys next.

[Dan]

They’ll just be AAF jerseys with different names taped on

[Ian]

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/08/21/chicago-bears-kicker-competition-obsession-cody-parkey-miss-matt-nagy-eddy-pineiro

They took their playoff exit reeeeaaaally well.

Sounds like a pretty grim situation for the guys trying out.

[Ian]

Speaking of kickers: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/aug/21/carli-lloyd-eagles-practice-bears-kicker

I thought this was going to be the sort of low, flat kick you sometimes see people score long field goals from outside game situations but that looks like she gets some proper elevation on it.

I also didn't know until I saw Gil Brandt's comments on it that it wasn't technically prohibited for a woman to play in the NFL.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think they'll put barriers in place to stop her. They won't want a woman kicker in on the off chance she gets tackled.

They could add extra protection for kickers but that might make it easier to run a fake.

[Ian]

There's still probably more chance of her getting a job, if she wants one, than Kaepernick.

[Gray Fox]

Apparently Andrew Luck has had enough of all the injury shit and is retiring from the NFL effective immediately.

Now that is a bomb to drop.

[John]

Jesus.

[Gray Fox]

If the love for it has gone and even the thought of another year for ~$30m doesn't change your mind then fair enough to him.

The guy was constantly carrying or rehabbing from an injury of one kind or another, with a couple threatening his career full stop. I imagine that wears you down after a while.

[John]

Would have thought they could have talked him into another year to see them through until next year's QB class.

[Gray Fox]

Colts fans boo him off the field at the game too. Classy.

I'm guessing they tried everything for him, but I suppose this is better than him potentially turning up and half-assing it. Not that he's that kind of guy anyway.

[Ian]

The ones who booed him off don't deserve to see a win ever again. Cunts.

[Giggles]

If he’s officially retired due to injury then does it shaft the Colts cap? It would be rather fitting if it did :drool:

[Gray Fox]

They're way past the deadline of any guarantees being active for this season. He's personally lost $60m for not seeing out his contract. Had he waited until the 17th September he'd have gained another $6m.
The interesting one is he got a $12.8m as a signing bonus. With him retiring there's nothing in his contract that says the Colts can't ask for it back.

But for now it's cost the Colts $18.4m of dead cap space this year and $6.4m from next year.

[Pleb]

When did College Football come back? :cab:

[Foe]

Luck retiring is a shame but he's been just hammered with injuries the last few years. He's the sort of level headed low maintenance dude that knows life is more than football and pain too. Fair play to him.

Great news for Jacoby birsett though. He thought he should be a starter somewhere. This is his chance.

Just been watching the Florida Miami game. Just error central. Great entertainment though. Glad football is back.

Dislike Felipe franks immensely though.

[Giggles]

When did College Football come back? :cab:

Would normally be around the end of NFL preseason from what I remember.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Luck retiring is a shame but he's been just hammered with injuries the last few years. He's the sort of level headed low maintenance dude that knows life is more than football and pain too. Fair play to him.

Great news for Jacoby birsett though. He thought he should be a starter somewhere. This is his chance.

Just been watching the Florida Miami game. Just error central. Great entertainment though. Glad football is back.

Dislike Felipe franks immensely though.

Last year of his rookie contract so it's worked out perfectly for him if he plays well.

[Foe]

He has to play well enough to keep the colts out of the reach of tua and Herbert.

If he looks solid, he gets the franchise tag and a shit load of cash to give it another go.

Think mike glennon sort of style.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I don't think he has to play all that well for them to be out of reach for Tua/Herbert without trading as their team is too good.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27460243/sources-colts-recoup-money-luck

Colts wont go after the $24.8m they could have recouped from Luck.

[Giggles]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27460243/sources-colts-recoup-money-luck

Colts wont go after the $24.8m they could have recouped from Luck.

There must be more to things then. Sounds like they’re saving themselves a potential lawsuit.

[Dan]

Cut season is here :drool:

Seahawks have cut Amara Darboh AGAIN
Broncos have cut Jeff Holland (he's been picked up by Buffalo), Dekoda Watson & Zach Kerr
Dolphins have cut TJ McDonald, Akeem Spence, Jordan Mills (injury settlement) & Clive Walford (injury settlement)
Vikings have cut Jordan Taylor & Bene Benwickere
Lions have cut David Fales (they've replaced him with the Birmingham Iron's own Luis Perez)
Cardinals released Terrell McClain & Andre Branch
Browns released Jaelan Strong
Colts waived Matthias Farley
Patriots released Mike Pennel & Maurice Harris (waived/injured)
Packers waived Josh Jones

Not exactly an exciting set of moves, but things should start getting interesting next week once we get down to final cuts.

EDIT: Malcolm Smith gone from the 49ers too, and it sounds like Josh Doctson is on the bubble in Washington, not that anyone should be surprised by that.

[Dan]

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Fark. Pretty much the best LB in college out for the year before week 1 - wonder if this will affect whether he declares or not.

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RIP

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

ffs.

[Dan]

Well, week four of the preseason starts tonight, so I guess it's about time to get the predictions post up :drool:

Take your shot at predicting the division winners, all the way through to the SuperBowl, as well as the winners of all the main awards, and a few extra categories chucked in for fun. I'll even allow you a spot to make a bold prediction if you're feeling dangerous (HAHA I'M SO CLEVER)

Anyway, off we go...

Division Winners & Wildcards:

AFC North:
AFC South:
AFC East:
AFC West:

NFC North:
NFC South:
NFC East:
NFC West:

AFC Wildcards:
NFC Wildcards:



Postseason:

AFC Champion:
Bold Prediction:

NFC Champion:
Bold Prediction:

SuperBowl Champion:
Bold Prediction:



Awards:

MVP:
Bold Prediction:

Offensive Player of the Year:
Bold Prediction:

Defensive Player of the Year:
Bold Prediction:

Rookie of the Year:
Bold Prediction:

Offensive Rookie of the Year:
Bold Prediction:

Defensive Rookie of the Year:
Bold Prediction:

Coach of the Year:
Bold Prediction:

Comeback Player of the Year:
Bold Prediction:



Stat Leaders:

Most Passing Yards:
Bold Prediction:

Most Passing TDs:
Bold Prediction:

Most Interceptions:
Bold Prediction:

Most Rushing Yards:
Bold Prediction:

Most Rushing TDs:
Bold Prediction:

Most Receiving Yards:
Bold Prediction:

Most Receiving TDs:
Bold Prediction:

Most Sacks:
Bold Prediction:

Most Interceptions:
Bold Prediction:



Other Stuff:

Best Regular Season Record:
Bold Prediction:

Worst Regular Season Record:
Bold Prediction:

First Coach To Be Fired:
Bold Prediction:

Team That's Unexpectedly Good:

Team That's Unexpectedly Bad:

Unexpected Breakout Player:

Unexpected Flop:

How Many Games Will Melvin Gordon Play?

How Many Games Will Ezekiel Elliott Play?

How Many Games Will Antonio Brown Play?

How Many Games Will The Colts Win?

More Rushing Yards - Lamar Jackson or Kyler Murray?


That should be plenty.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Did you post results of last year's predictions?

[Dan]

Probably not :D

I should have them on a spreadsheet though, so I'll dig them out.

[Baz]

Division Winners & Wildcards:
AFC North: Pittsburgh Steelers
AFC South: Houston Texans
AFC East: New England Patriots
AFC West: Kansas City Chiefs

NFC North: Chicago Bears
NFC South: New Orleans Saints
NFC East: Philadelphia Eagles
NFC West: Los Angeles Rams

AFC Wildcards: Los Angeles Chargers & Cleveland Browns
NFC Wildcards: Dallas Cowboys & Green Bay Packers



Postseason:
AFC Champion: New England Patriots
Bold Prediction: Gronk to return. Luck to not.

NFC Champion: New Orleans Saints
Bold Prediction: Detroit Lions to be up there.

SuperBowl Champion: New Orleans Saints
Bold Prediction: Young Thug to be involved in the half-time show.



Awards:
MVP: Patrick Mahomes
Bold Prediction: Jared Goff to break records.

Offensive Player of the Year: Julio Jones
Bold Prediction: Josh Jacobs double-win

Defensive Player of the Year: Aaron Donald
Bold Prediction: Ryan Russell :harold:

Rookie of the Year: Josh Jacobs
Bold Prediction: He'll be a round 1 pick in fantasy football next season.

Offensive Rookie of the Year: Josh Jacobs
Bold Prediction: Noah Fant

Defensive Rookie of the Year: Devin White
Bold Prediction: Clelin Ferrell

Coach of the Year: Sean Payton
Bold Prediction: Matt Patricia

Comeback Player of the Year: Josh Gordon
Bold Prediction: Gronk :charm:



Stat Leaders:

Most Passing Yards: Patrick Mahomes
Bold Prediction: Lamar Jackson

Most Passing TDs: Baker Mayfield
Bold Prediction: Matthew Stafford

Most Interceptions: Jameis Winston
Bold Prediction: Sam Darnold

Most Rushing Yards: Saquon Barkley
Bold Prediction: Duke Johnson

Most Rushing TDs: Alvin Kamara
Bold Prediction: Zeke to get 0

Most Receiving Yards: Julio Jones
Bold Prediction: Travis Kelce

Most Receiving TDs: Davante Adams
Bold Prediction: Travis Kelce

Most Sacks: Aaron Donald
Bold Prediction: Jarrad Davis


Other Stuff:

Best Regular Season Record: New England Patriots
Bold Prediction: Win every game bar the Superbowl.

Worst Regular Season Record: Miami Dolphins
Bold Prediction: Miami to get 0 points.

First Coach To Be Fired: Pat Shurmur
Bold Prediction: Jay Gruden to not get fired.

Team That's Unexpectedly Good: Detroit WHAT.

Team That's Unexpectedly Bad: Indianapolis Colts?

Unexpected Breakout Player: Tony Pollard

Unexpected Flop: Todd Gurley

How Many Games Will Melvin Gordon Play? 0

How Many Games Will Ezekiel Elliott Play? 0

How Many Games Will Antonio Brown Play? 13

How Many Games Will The Colts Win? 3

More Rushing Yards - Lamar Jackson or Kyler Murray?

[Giggles]

Division Winners & Wildcards:
AFC North: Cleveland
AFC South: Houston
AFC East: New England
AFC West: Kansas City

NFC North: Minnesota
NFC South: New Orleans
NFC East: Philadelphia
NFC West: Los Angeles

AFC Wildcards: Oakland & Baltimore
NFC Wildcards: Atlanta & Seattle

Postseason:
AFC Champion: Kansas City
NFC Champion: New Orleans
SuperBowl Champion: New Orleans

Other Stuff:
Best Regular Season Record: Los Angeles Rams
Worst Regular Season Record: Buffalo
Team That's Unexpectedly Good: Oakland
Team That's Unexpectedly Bad: Pittsburgh

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We've made a surprising cut in Willie Henry.

Leaves the door open for one of Zach Sieler or Gerald Willis.

[Foe]

Lesean McCoy getting released by the bills..

[Gray Fox]

A bit of a surprise but they're in full on rebuild mode now. The defence is good enough and the QB I like, but they pretty much don't have anything at WR and now RB is looking short in supply.

Shady himself will be fine. You'd think he's a shoe in for the Texans. Though the Chargers may be interested. If he's happy to play a lesser role but on a team with a chance to win it all however, there's a few other options. I'd love to see him come home though.


Elsewhere it looks like Seattle will be the ones to land Clowney.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Third round pick plus Barkevious Mingo and Jacob Martin.

[Limoutsonik]

Fucking highway robbery with security guards watching. You love to see it.

[Foe]

Clowney gone. :cry:

Kizer cut by the packers and Brian hoyers holiday camp in New England is over.

[Gray Fox]

Texans trading like there's no tomorrow.

[niko_cee]

So, does McCoy getting cut help Wade get near their final roster or has he already been discarded himself (back presumably to wherever exempt guys go)?

[Gray Fox]

He's one of 4 RBs they have now. Looking good for his chances.

[Gray Fox]

One of the final cuts but Wade has been released.

He'll likely end up on a practice squad for now.

[Foe]

Dolphins tanking for tua/Herbert.

And we've given them some capital if fitzmagic manages to give them any dubs.

[Foe]

Anyone watch any of opening week of the college season?

I was away yesterday but caught the recorded Oregon auburn game today. What a beaut of a game that was.

Looking forward to Texas v lsu next week too. Be nice to see whether Sam ehlinger can raise them up against a good sec team. Will be good to see Delpit again too. He was amazing last year. Sophomore season should be good.

I'll not mention the volunteers either. :cab:

[Dan]

Yeah, I watched that game yesterday as there’s a condensed version on YouTube. Tennessee are a fucking shambles, and have been for at least three seasons, but losing to Georgia State takes it to a whole new level of misery.

Oklahoma State & Washington games sound like they could be worth checking out too - some nice performances from under the radar draft guys in both games.

Texas/LSU should be the first proper ‘big’ game though - LSU should probably take it if their offence shows up, but I feel like Ehlinger will just run in 4 short TDs & drag Texas to victory while Joe Burrow chills out being vanilla in the background. Delpit is a junior, by the way, so he’s eligible for the draft this year :drool: Kaden Sterns from Texas is a sophomore though, so he’ll be the one to watch for 2021.

[Dan]

Better chuck all my season predictions out there.

Division Winners & Wildcards:

AFC North: Flip a coin between everyone that isn't Cincinnati, but I guess I'll go Cleveland
Bold Predictions: CLE, BAL & PIT all tie at 9-7

AFC South: Jacksonville
Bold Prediction: Fournette leads the league in rushing TDs

AFC East: The usual
Bold Prediction: Blake Cashman is in defensive rookie of the year contention

AFC West: KC
Bold Prediction: Hunter Renfrow leads all rookie WRs in catches



NFC North: Green Bay
Bold Prediction: Anthony Miller & Marvin Jones have more combined receiving yards & TDs than Allen Robinson & Kenny Golladay

NFC South: Saints
Bold Prediction: Brian Burns leads all rookies in sacks

NFC East: Philly
Bold Prediction: Daniel Jones & Dwayne Haskins combine to play less than 16 full games

NFC West: Rams
Bold Prediction: No 49ers RB has more than 175 carries, & no receiver has more than 1000 yards (including Kittle)


AFC Wildcards: Chargers & Texans
Bold Prediction: Jets & Colts

NFC Wildcards: Falcons & Packers
Bold Prediction: Vikings & Panthers both win 10 games & don't make the playoffs



Postseason:

AFC Champion: Chargers
Bold Prediction: Patriots & Chiefs both lose their first playoff game

NFC Champion: Eagles
Bold Prediction: Saints get knocked out without any controversy

SuperBowl Champion: Eagles
Bold Prediction: Eagles go unbeaten all season



Awards:

MVP: Carson Wentz
Bold Prediction: Deshaun Watson

Offensive Player of the Year: Saquon Barkley
Bold Prediction: Antonio Brown

Defensive Player of the Year: Aaron Donald
Bold Prediction: Jaylon Smith

Rookie of the Year: Kyler Murray
Bold Prediction: Quinnen Williams

Offensive Rookie of the Year: Kyler Murray
Bold Prediction: Justice Hill

Defensive Rookie of the Year: Devin Bush
Bold Prediction: Brian Burns

Coach of the Year: Doug Pederson
Bold Prediction: Bill Belichick

Comeback Player of the Year: Le'Veon Bell
Bold Prediction: Jimmy Garoppolo



Stat Leaders:

Most Passing Yards: Patrick Mahomes
Bold Prediction: Jameis Winston

Most Passing TDs: Aaron Rodgers
Bold Prediction: Carson Wentz

Most Interceptions: Jameis Winston
Bold Prediction: Derek Carr

Most Rushing Yards: Saquon Barkley
Bold Prediction: Todd Gurley

Most Rushing TDs: Leonard Fournette
Bold Prediction: Sony Michel

Most Receiving Yards: Julio Jones
Bold Prediction: Stefon Diggs

Most Receiving TDs: Davante Adams
Bold Prediction: Mike Williams

Most Sacks: Aaron Donald
Bold Prediction: Bradley Chubb

Most Interceptions: Eddie Jackson
Bold Prediction: Jaire Alexander



Other Stuff:

Best Regular Season Record: Eagles
Bold Prediction: Vikings

Worst Regular Season Record: Miami
Bold Prediction: Tennessee

First Coach To Be Fired: Jay Gruden
Bold Prediction: Bill O'Brien

Team That's Unexpectedly Good: NY Jets

Team That's Unexpectedly Bad: Chicago

Unexpected Breakout Player: Dante Pettis

Unexpected Flop: Philip Lindsay

How Many Games Will Melvin Gordon Play? 8

How Many Games Will Ezekiel Elliott Play? 12

How Many Games Will Antonio Brown Play? 16

How Many Games Will The Colts Win? 8

More Rushing Yards - Lamar Jackson or Kyler Murray? Lamar


Can't find the spreadsheet from last year, so it's probably on a hard drive somewhere. I'll get the weekly predictions up tomorrow though, still got that template lying around.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Division Winners & Wildcards:

AFC North: OUR Baltimore Ravens
AFC South: Texans
AFC East: Patriots
AFC West: Chargers

NFC North: Bears
NFC South: Saints
NFC East: Eagles
NFC West: Rams

AFC Wildcards: Browns, Chiefs
NFC Wildcards: Packers, Vikings



Postseason:

AFC Champion: Ravens
Bold Prediction: Brady retires after failing to reach the Owl

NFC Champion: Rams
Bold Prediction: Packers fail to win a playoff game.

SuperBowl Champion: OUR Baltimore Ravens
Bold Prediction: Loomar to be MVP after he wins it PASSING



Awards:

MVP: Loomar
Bold Prediction: I think the above is bold enough

Offensive Player of the Year: Barkley
Bold Prediction: Justice Hill to get a vote

Defensive Player of the Year: Clowney
Bold Prediction: Donald finishing third in the vote

Rookie of the Year: Hollywood
Bold Prediction: David Montgomery

Offensive Rookie of the Year: Hollywood
Bold Prediction: Justice Hill

Defensive Rookie of the Year: Nick Bosa
Bold Prediction: Jaylon Ferguson

Coach of the Year: Harbs
Bold Prediction: Gruden, lol

Comeback Player of the Year: Earl Thomas
Bold Prediction: Josh Gordon, bold as I doubt he can last a season without drugs



Stat Leaders:

Most Passing Yards: Brees
Bold Prediction: Loomar

Most Passing TDs: Mahomes
Bold Prediction: Loomar

Most Interceptions: Carr
Bold Prediction: Rivers

Most Rushing Yards: Saquon
Bold Prediction: Zeke

Most Rushing TDs: Kamara
Bold Prediction: Melvin Gordon

Most Receiving Yards: Michael Thomas
Bold Prediction: Hollywood

Most Receiving TDs: Nuk
Bold Prediction: Kamara

Most Sacks: Clowney
Bold Prediction: Judon

Most Interceptions: Earl Thomas
Bold Prediction: Greedy Williams



Other Stuff:

Best Regular Season Record: Patriots
Bold Prediction: Chargers

Worst Regular Season Record: Dolphins
Bold Prediction: Raiders

First Coach To Be Fired: Bill O'Brien
Bold Prediction: Patricia

Team That's Unexpectedly Good: Redskins

Team That's Unexpectedly Bad: Steelers (they'll finish sub .500)

Unexpected Breakout Player: Tyus Bowser who will have at least 8 sacks

Unexpected Flop: Roffelsburger

How Many Games Will Melvin Gordon Play? 12

How Many Games Will Ezekiel Elliott Play? 14

How Many Games Will Antonio Brown Play? 14

How Many Games Will The Colts Win? 8

More Rushing Yards - Lamar Jackson or Kyler Murray? Loomar

[Giggles]

The Chiefs are in the AFC.

Though that pales in comparison to the lol-fest anyway :D I'm just surprised you didn't have Justin Tucker as defensive and offensive player of the year, MVP, and rookie of the year.


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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That was meant to say Packers, whoops.

Also, that's LORD Justin Tucker. Cretin.

[Dan]

Hang on, is Mahow a Ravens fan? He’s done a good job keeping that under wraps until now.

[Dan]

Right, weekly pick'em time:


GAME OF THE WEEK - Packers v Bears - Over/under 37.5 total points

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Rams v Panthers
Redskins v Eagles
Bills v Jets
Falcons v Vikings
Ravens v Dolphins
Chiefs v Jaguars
Titans v Browns
Colts v Chargers
Bengals v Seahawks
49ers v Bucs
Giants v Cowboys
Lions v Cardinals
Steelers v Patriots
Texans v Saints
Broncos v Raiders

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The #1 QB this week will be...

The #1 RB this week will be...

The #1 WR this week will be...

The #1 TE this week will be...

The #1 DST this week will be...

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This week, Jacoby Brissett will score...

EDIT: Do I normally post this in the fantasy thread?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You do.

[Giggles]

Yes you do.

[Dan]

I thought so. Oh well, I’ll copy it over into there in a minute then.

[Giggles]

Almost caved on Game Pass this evening.

[Dan]

I'm really annoyed that American GamePass has a search function that allows you to find specific plays by individual players, and they decided not to include that in the European version for some reason.

[Giggles]

I’m more annoyed that the cunts went to the trouble to make apps for some smart TV’s and still wouldn’t bother their holes making one for Android TV when all they had to do was port the phone app over. Casting is bollocks.

Though looking again at the Packers schedule, I’d be getting it for a maximum 8 games (Sunday 6pm’s) which probably isn’t worth it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport and NFL Network's Jane Slater reported Wednesday that the Cowboys and Elliott have agreed to a six-year, $90 million extension, per sources informed of the deal. In all, it's $103 million over eight years, with $50 million guaranteed, Rapoport added.

[Baz]

I know I predicted otherwise but if the Browns don’t finish above the Steelers, they should just disband.

[thommo]

Better get some predictions in before the season kicks off.

Division Winners & Wildcards:

AFC North: Pittsburgh Steelers
AFC South: Houston Texans
AFC East: New England Patriots
AFC West: Los Angeles Chargers

NFC North: Chicago Bears
NFC South: New Orleans Saints
NFC East: Philadelphia Eagles
NFC West: Los Angeles Rams

AFC Wildcards: Cleveland Browns & Kansas City Chiefs
NFC Wildcards: Green Bay Packers & Atlanta Falcons



Postseason:

AFC Champion: Pittsburgh Steelers
Bold Prediction: Steelers beat the Browns in OT in the Conference Round

NFC Champion: Los Angeles Rams
Bold Prediction: Rams win again in the Superdome with some sort of ridiculous call

SuperBowl Champion: Pittsburgh Steelers
Bold Prediction: Steelers winning as soon as Brown & Bell are out the building is bold enough



Awards:

MVP: Jared Goff
Bold Prediction: Philip Rivers

Offensive Player of the Year: Alvin Kamara
Bold Prediction: JuJu

Defensive Player of the Year: Aaron Donald
Bold Prediction: Joey Bosa (although this probably isn't that bold)

Rookie of the Year: Kyler Murray
Bold Prediction: Deebo Samuel

Offensive Rookie of the Year: Kyler Murray
Bold Prediction: David Montgomery

Defensive Rookie of the Year: Devin Bush
Bold Prediction: Quinnen Williams

Coach of the Year: Mike Tomlin
Bold Prediction: Freddie Kitchens

Comeback Player of the Year: Josh Gordon
Bold Prediction: Gronk will be back at some point.



Stat Leaders:

Most Passing Yards: Big Ben
Bold Prediction: Carson Wentz

Most Passing TDs: Jared Goff
Bold Prediction: Goff to throw 50 or more

Most Interceptions: Jacoby Brissett
Bold Prediction: Brady to throw 20+ for the first time in his career

Most Rushing Yards: Saquon Barkley
Bold Prediction: A QB to run for over 1000

Most Rushing TDs: Leonard Fournette
Bold Prediction: Nick Chubb

Most Receiving Yards: Michael Thomas
Bold Prediction: George Kittle

Most Receiving TDs: Deandre Hopkins
Bold Prediction: Antonio Brown (in 4 less games)

Most Sacks: Aaron Donald
Bold Prediction: Joey Bosa to match him with 20+

Most Interceptions: Kevin Byard
Bold Prediction: Deion Jones



Other Stuff:

Best Regular Season Record: Saints. 15-1
Bold Prediction: Chargers to match that in the AFC

Worst Regular Season Record: Miami to go 2-14 if they're lucky.
Bold Prediction: One of those wins will be against the Pats

First Coach To Be Fired: Jay Gruden
Bold Prediction: Mike Zimmer

Team That's Unexpectedly Good: New York Jets

Team That's Unexpectedly Bad: Baltimore Ravens - 5-11 at best.

Unexpected Breakout Player: James Washington

Unexpected Flop: Tom Brady will be holding the Pats back as we enter January

How Many Games Will Melvin Gordon Play? 10

How Many Games Will Ezekiel Elliott Play? 16

How Many Games Will Antonio Brown Play? 12

How Many Games Will The Colts Win? 6

More Rushing Yards - Lamar Jackson or Kyler Murray? Kyler Murray

[Dan]

My fantasy team hopes you’re right about Jared Goff

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Released our first depth chart and Chris Board is listed as starter alongside Peanut. He's been brilliant this offseason and has done well to get ahead of Kenny Young (who I imagine will still play a lot, especially on passing downs). That means both our starting MLB's are undrafted.

Also, there was speculation that we'd not keep any UDFA's this year to break THE STREAK but we ended up keeping Patrick Mekari who could well end the season as our starting LG and Otaro Alaka who is another MLB.

[Gray Fox]

Division Winners & Wildcards:

AFC North: Steelers
AFC South: Texans
AFC East: Pats by about 6 games
AFC West: Chiefs

NFC North: Bears
NFC South: Saints
NFC East: Dem 'boys
NFC West: Seahawks

AFC Wildcards: Chargers, Browns
NFC Wildcards: Eagles, Rams



Postseason:

AFC Champion: Patriots
Bold Prediction: Brady gets injured, Stidham comes in and does better

NFC Champion: Seahawks
Bold Prediction: Bears v Hawks NFC Champ game comes down to a kick that Bears kicker misses.

SuperBowl Champion: Seahawks
Bold Prediction: Pass interference challenge flag decides the game. Saints fans start another petition.



Awards:

MVP: Russel Wilson
Bold Prediction: Khalil Mack. Not bold in terms of quality, but defensive players don't often win.

Offensive Player of the Year: Alvin Kamara
Bold Prediction: Breaks 1000 yards in both rushing and receiving.

Defensive Player of the Year: Mack
Bold Prediction: Bosa to run him close.

Rookie of the Year: David Montgomery.
Bold Prediction: Josh Jacobs to flop.

Offensive Rookie of the Year: David Montgomery.
Bold Prediction: Miles Sanders to run him close

Defensive Rookie of the Year: Nick Bosa
Bold Prediction: I watch the defensive side of the draft more closely this year so I know more than one name for this.

Coach of the Year: Pete Carrol
Bold Prediction: Matt Nagy

Comeback Player of the Year: Lev Bell if he counts.
Bold Prediction: Wentz will go well in the running until the inevitable injury ends our season.



Stat Leaders:

Most Passing Yards: Mahomes
Bold Prediction: He breaks 5k again

Most Passing TDs: Wentz if fit.
Bold Prediction:

Most Interceptions: Eddie Jackson if you meant defensive player, QB - Famous Jameis
Bold Prediction: Jameis starts hot but loses his job before the season is out.

Most Rushing Yards: Zeke
Bold Prediction: Will break the record for rushing yards in a game.

Most Rushing TDs: Kamara
Bold Prediction: Will go close to 20.

Most Receiving Yards: Julio Jones
Bold Prediction: Travis Kelce breaks 1000 yards

Most Receiving TDs: Devante Adams
Bold Prediction: Michael Thomas

Most Sacks: Joey Bosa
Bold Prediction:

Most Interceptions:Eddie Jackson
Bold Prediction: I wont be bothered to fix me putting him in the wrong category earlier.



Other Stuff:

Best Regular Season Record: Pats
Bold Prediction: Saints

Worst Regular Season Record: Bengals
Bold Prediction: They'll tie with Miami

First Coach To Be Fired: Gruden the younger.
Bold Prediction: Vrabel

Team That's Unexpectedly Good: If the Jags count

Team That's Unexpectedly Bad: Vikings

Unexpected Breakout Player: Matt Breida

Unexpected Flop: Adam Thielen

How Many Games Will Melvin Gordon Play? 3

How Many Games Will Ezekiel Elliott Play? 16

How Many Games Will Antonio Brown Play? 14

How Many Games Will The Colts Win?7

More Rushing Yards - Lamar Jackson or Kyler Murray? Jackson

[Giggles]

Guaranteed that useless Ha Ha cunt picks off Rodgers tonight.

[Giggles]

The peacemaker.

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

This whole saga is incredible.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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:drool:

[Pleb]

Would the league block it? :baz:

[Gray Fox]

Why would they? He's breaking rules he agreed to when he signed.

[Giggles]

So many wankers desperate to go down the CTE route with Brown now. A cunt can never just be a cunt any more.

[Giggles]

Also, fuck Da Bears.

[Dan]

What a terrible game that was :D

[Pleb]

Off to a great start fantasy wise :baz:

[Giggles]

https://youtu.be/uCH_NCZ7Ejs

[Giggles]

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001051668/article/antonio-brown-posts-video-with-recorded-gruden-call

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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[Giggles]

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[Giggles]

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[Ian]

What an absolute willy of a man.

[John]

That'll be him out of the league, surely. Nobody is stupid enough to take the risk on him after all this.

[Giggles]

That'll be him out of the league, surely. Nobody is stupid enough to take the risk on him after all this.

Too much proven talent. There might not be a queue but someone will definitely sign him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Someone will be stupid enough to think that they can fix him.

[John]

The Raiders were basically alone in their interest when he wanted out of the Steelers, and he's been a complete whopper every second of every day since then.

I could see the Chiefs picking him up in week 5 or something if someone finally decides battering children is out of order, but failing that surely he's just too toxic.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Battering kids only matters if you're smoking weed whilst doing it.

Tyreek was given a new contract the other day.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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He's gone.

[Ian]

Somebody will do it, John. The Raiders won't stick with him but the rule is that the next team just burbles about second chances and everybody pretends to forget

Still hoping for that freak quadruple limb-shattering for Tyreek Hill.

[Giggles]

Fair fucks to the Raiders.

[Gray Fox]

I reckon he'd suit being a Panther down to the ground.

[Giggles]

Aren’t the Browns the new collectors of scumbags?

[Foe]

He's still a great football player who wants to play. Someone will pick him up.

Doesn't have to go to waivers either, so he's free to try and persuade others to take him.

San Fran or Chicago maybe? The bears offence looked horrid.

[Giggles]

Brown might even make Tubrisky look competent.

[Browning]

Patriots, nailed on.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. He'll probably agree to pay for them for nothing as well.

[Dan]

He'll be a Raven by Tuesday.

[Gray Fox]

As has been proven by this, he's gonna want guaranteed money, so short term cap space will dictate this.

He was due to earn $15m per season, so if we use that as a baseline then you're looking at the following:
https://i.gyazo.com/cd89e7c105836a7b72e7a49890b82f50.png


The Cowboys are about to be crippled by contract renewals so count them out. Eagles also have a complete catching attack without him. Teams like the Browns, Titans, Bears and 49ers will likely be interested. The former 3 for a chance in the play-offs, the 49ers would likely pay more as they don't have great WR options.

[Foe]

Browns don't really need him.

Doubt he'd fancy going to the titans for football. But he did play college football in Michigan...

He's from Miami too, so they could be a preferred destination. Doubt they'd do all the work they have to tank and then bring in a poisonous winner though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He'll be a Raven by Tuesday.

We don't need any more blockers for Loomat.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Niners would be a good shout.

He doesn't have to move and they've got no one for Jimmy G to throw to bar Kittle.

[Foe]

Going to watch Texas A&M vs Clemson at half 8 Dan?

[Dan]

Going to watch Texas A&M vs Clemson at half 8 Dan?

Yep, LSU v Texas afterwards too :drool:

Got the Ohio State game on now but I'm hoping Maryland/Syracuse & Purdue/Vanderbilt will end up on YouTube as I'd like to catch both of those too.

[Giggles]

Regardless of having lost a couple of picks, this really was nice work on the Raiders part.


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[Foe]

Ohio state being a blowout is a shock.

Justin fields looks solid though. Hopefully he hangs around a few years. Easy to see why he was the #1 player in his year.

[Dan]

As has been proven by this, he's gonna want guaranteed money, so short term cap space will dictate this.

He was due to earn $15m per season, so if we use that as a baseline then you're looking at the following:
https://i.gyazo.com/cd89e7c105836a7b72e7a49890b82f50.png


The Cowboys are about to be crippled by contract renewals so count them out. Eagles also have a complete catching attack without him. Teams like the Browns, Titans, Bears and 49ers will likely be interested. The former 3 for a chance in the play-offs, the 49ers would likely pay more as they don't have great WR options.

- Colts are a culture team with a good WR corps, no chance
- Browns have a track record of taking chances on a players with off-field issues, but considering they have OBJ & Landry (and Higgins) they don't need to gamble on him
- Miami are tanking & trying to build culture, so there's no way they'd take him.
- Houston shouldn't need him, but recent deals suggest nobody has a fucking clue what they're doing, so maybe they'll pay him $20m a year fully guaranteed
- Bills have already been shit on by AB, so they'd probably tell him to fuck off unless the fans could put him through a table as an apology. They could use him though
- Raiders :harold:
- Titans are a maybe, but I'm not sure this would actually work out for anyone. Also not convinced Vrabel would be interested in his shit.
- Dallas are broke & need to pay Cooper
- 49ers are just going to roll through all their guys relentlessly, so they don't really need to have a proper #1 guy
- Lions don't seem to be a great fit on a personality or scheme level
- Bears have Allen Robinson & Anthony Miller, and the problem there is Trubisky anyway
- Redskins won't want him as he isn't from Alabama, but they could probably use a decent WR
- Eagles would sign him for a bargain contract & trade him for a second round pick
- Bengals should probably just tank

So yeah, I guess it's Houston, Buffalo, Tennessee & Washington, with Cleveland, San Francisco & Cincy as long shots.

Plus obvious the Patriots.

[Dan]

Ohio state being a blowout is a shock.

Justin fields looks solid though. Hopefully he hangs around a few years. Easy to see why he was the #1 player in his year.

Yeah, I wasn't big on him at Georgia as he basically just ran it every time he came in, but it's nice to see him in a system that actually works for him. The Fields/Lawrence battle could carry all the way through from high school to the 2021 draft at this rate, and we still might not be able to decide who's actually better.

EDIT: Michigan at #7 is a fucking joke. They're struggling against Army, and Shea Patterson is trash.

Ended up winning on 2OT because Army decided to pass the ball for about the fourth time all game & turned it over for the second of them.

In other news, Trevor Lawrence, Travis Etienne & Justyn Ross are good, and Kellen Mond is not.

[Foe]

Fuck sake I'd like to watch a good game of college football.

Kellen mond and A&M are seriously struggling. This Clemson team doesn't look as dynamic on offence either. Ettiene is going to be sweet as a catching RB in the NFL and is too good for college. But Clemson aren't making use of Lawrence and the wideouts thus far. Struggled last week too.

[Foe]

Have Michigan been good on offence at any point in the last few years? The defences have been great with gary, bush etc. But they've not had a decent QB as yet. Wilton speight anyone?

[Browning]

He's signed for New England....

[Giggles]

Yep, fucking lol.

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[Giggles]

1 year deal, $15m, $9m bonus.

[Giggles]

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[Dan]

I didn't realise Drew Rosenhaus was actually God.

[Dan]

Have Michigan been good on offence at any point in the last few years? The defences have been great with gary, bush etc. But they've not had a decent QB as yet. Wilton speight anyone?

They have three good WRs too, they're just utterly miserable at QB, and this year their defence might not quite be good enough to make up the difference. They could easily lose four games this season (Wisconsin, Iowa, Penn State & Ohio State), which really ought to see Harbaugh shown the door.

Unrelated, but I'm putting dibs on Anthony McFarland now. Not sure whether he'll come out this year or 2021, but the kid's a beast.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

AB has planned it fairly well tbh.

[Dan]

Gotta love watching Texas waste two drives by repeatedly running Ehlinger at the goal-line & getting stuffed :drool:

3-0 LSU but Texas would've been leading, potentially by a lot, if they hadn't tried the literal most obvious play imaginable on fourth down twice. Wide open drop from the RB in the endzone didn't help either, to be fair.

EDIT: I knew LSU had another Fournette playing RB but I didn't realise his name was Lanard :D Imaginative parents, clearly.

Kristian Fulton out here getting destroyed by Brennan Eagles while a freshman locks down Collin Johnson :cab:

[Dan]

Man, that LSU/Texas game was real good. Condensed version below if anyone wants to give it a look:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqsVOrT8Glw

Ja'marr Chase (LSU sophomore) & Devin Duvernay (Texas senior) will have had their names circled in a lot of scouts' notebooks from this game, I'd wager.

That LSU freshman CB (Derek Stingley) looks promising too, but then he was the #1 CB in the class so I guess that would explain it.

[Giggles]

The US channels are normally brutal for it anyway, but this is one of the most ‘clutching at straws’ things I’ve seen in a good while.


https://i.imgur.com/xN5jwGv.jpg

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Nearly traded to Bills :D

[Dan]

They could have at least gone with ‘refused a trade to Buffalo’

[Giggles]

Facing Bell is as bad. The only half interesting one on their whole list is the one he can’t play in anyway.

[Foe]

That Texas lsu game was amazing. Texas moving it down the field but totally pointless when you just can’t get close to stopping joe burrow. He was so good.

Hopefully Texas don’t drop out the top 10 for that. I’d rather them in the top ten that a Michigan team who struggled to beat army.

[John]

Browns. :cool:

[Giggles]

Yeah I need game pass. Just cannot warm to watching redzone, would much rather get into a game.

[Giggles]

I know he caught that pass but that rookie Titans receiver looks like he has the agility of the 67A bus.

[John]

He and DK Metcalf are basically the same guy. Bonkers fast and strong but with the turning circle of the moon.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hollywood Brown :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hill injured which is nice although it's not serious it seems.

[bruhnaldo]

thank you based Mahow

#TankForTua

[bruhnaldo]

we down 21-0 this dude doing the incomplete sign and talking shit to the guy who already is eating us alive like what

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

*28.

[Foe]

This Miami team getting smoked by Lamar passing and a fast rookie receiver is a bad omen.

Good luck in foxboro.

[Foe]

Miles jack wants a couple of weeks off clearly and to donate to charity.

Be interesting to know what he chiefs guys presumably said.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Boykin also getting involved now.

[bruhnaldo]

This is like when the US didn't make the World Cup so I could just watch football and not feel emotionally invested.

We deffo getting the #1 pick.

[igor_balis]

Yeah I need game pass. Just cannot warm to watching redzone, would much rather get into a game.

100%, redzone gives me a fucking headache.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's a bit full on for the early kick offs but the pace is a lot better for the 9pm games as there's usually only 3 or 4.

[John]

Been unmitigated shite from the Browns since the PAT went wide after about three minutes.

[bruhnaldo]

#ComebackSZN

[John]

Titans have gained more yards from Browns penalties than passing or rushing.

[Dan]

I know he caught that pass but that rookie Titans receiver looks like he has the agility of the 67A bus.

And yet he has 3 catches for 100 yards.

Also this:

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[Giggles]

And yet he has 3 catches for 100 yards.

Also this:

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I never said he wouldn't catch anything, though are you really showing college videos? I could find you a lovely Deshone Kizer highlight video from ND.

[Dan]

That Texas lsu game was amazing. Texas moving it down the field but totally pointless when you just can’t get close to stopping joe burrow. He was so good.

Hopefully Texas don’t drop out the top 10 for that. I’d rather them in the top ten that a Michigan team who struggled to beat army.

Agreed, Michigan deserve to drop like a stone.

Speaking of big name teams that are shit, shout outs to Tennessee throwing another one away to BYU & Florida State for only beating Louisiana Monroe in OT because their kicker missed an extra point :harold:

[Dan]

I never said he wouldn't catch anything, though are you really showing college videos? I could find you a lovely Deshone Kizer highlight video from ND.

It's kinda hard to find existing highlights of him in the NFL when he's literally playing his first game as we speak. Just showing that he does have some wiggle to him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Browns the new Jaguars.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I love Josh Rosen.

[Foe]

Glad i drafted derrick Henry. Annoyed I didn't take sammy Watkins though. Think I took Adam humphries instead. :moop:

[Dan]

Sammy won't even have 50 yards for the next five games.

[Giggles]

It might not last but Mayfield shitting it up is nice.

[niko_cee]

This is absolutely glorious.

The Browns being comically shite is even better when they thought they were going to come out and win by 50. I'm with Osi on Mayfield.