The NFL Thread

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They did exactly the same thing in the regular season meeting. Mahomes threw a one play touchdown then Brady just marched it down the park to win it with about twenty seconds left.

It's just what they do.

They have such confidence (and rightly so) in Brady to do it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Not a catch at all.

[Gray Fox]

That's never a catch.

[John]

It's just what they do.

They have such confidence (and rightly so) in Brady to do it.

I meant the Chiefs. When it would have been prudent to burn some time, they just rocket up the field with the longest play they can muster and put the ball in Brad's hands with plenty of time to work.

[Gray Fox]

I still think this ends with 5 seconds left and Mahomes having to hail mary it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gronk showing how shit he is.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Woof.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gronk with his best catch of the year.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Chiefs can't stop the run for shit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

A lot of time for Mahomes though...

[thommo]

Chiefs completely bottled that whole drive. Stupid mistakes, penalties and receivers getting wide open. It was so inevitable that the Pats would get 7 there.

[Gray Fox]

Mahomes is too inexperienced for this. They don't trust him to audible yet.

Brady/Bill are just too clutch in this situation.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

38 of 62 points scored in the 4th quarter.

[Gray Fox]

Chiefs better hope they get the ball first or they're done.

[Gray Fox]

First time ever both Championship games have gone to OT.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Only second ever (last one was in 1986) OT in the AFC Championship game too which seems mental.

[Gray Fox]

I think this is about to be very anti-climactic.

[John]

Gronkowski looks like something out of Deus Ex with that thing on his arm.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Rushing TD from the red zone time after time.

They just couldn't stop Edelman and Gronk on third down.

[thommo]

I just don't understand how the Chiefs let Edelman convert on 3rd using the exact same play from a minute earlier. The safeties were playing 20-25 yards deep and the middle linebackers had no chance in keeping stride with Edelman. They completely threw that game away after dragging themselves back into it in the 4th.

Fucking hell, I hope the Rams win. Patriots are so good but they're such cunts about it.

[Gray Fox]

They threw the same play pretty much 3 times over on 3rd down.

The Achilles heel of the Chiefs shown for all to see. They need defensive help.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yep, all on Rams.

I wouldn't be surprised if they change the overtime rules in the playoffs to something more akin to the college game. Just feels a bit anti-climatic that the opposition doesn't have a chance to answer back.

[thommo]

Dee Ford must feel sick after his offside penalty.

Great couple of games but I still feel irritated the Pats have won. Not sure it makes the lack of sleep worthwhile now.

[Giggles]

This is how it all began back in the day too, Patriots Rams in 2002. Though the Rams were massive favourites that day.

Be a poetic way to bookend the whole era.



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[Ian]

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Not sure if I'll extend my season ticket or not, well I want a more central seat if I do.

[Dan]

Mexico gets Chiefs/Chargers & we get four shitters :D

[Giggles]

Mexico gets Chiefs/Chargers & we get four shitters :D

Rams Bears will surely be good you'd imagine.

EDIT: Ignore that, dunno what way I looked at it.



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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Panthers/Bucs is the one I care the least about, horrible game.

Then it's the Bengals/Rams but at least I can shit on Dalton and see Gurley live.

Then get to see Mack (with hopefully a chip on his shoulder) live along with Hopkins.

But yeah, it's probably the worst selection yet.

[Pleb]

All to go to OT :baz:

[Browning]

Raiders announcing one home game to soften the blow when they move the other 7 here too.

[Giggles]

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[John]

There was another one after that when the host brought up tigers and Baker said he owned a Bengal twice a year.

[Giggles]

He really needs to let it go and stop being a dickhead.

[Browning]

Agreed. That's just kind of sad.

[Gray Fox]

He really needs to let it go and stop being a dickhead.

I think we all know he's probably only capable of one of these things.

[John]

That was all very obviously scripted.

[niko_cee]

Predictably awful.

I know there were a million bad calls, but that face mask one which saved the Pats from a 4th and forever when they were down was the killer, although given that they converted on about 4 3rd and 10s in that final OT drive they'd probably have gone for it and somehow got it.

Feel the lack of Hunt really caught up with KC in the end. They had no run game and it put too much pressure on Mahomes to constantly deliver.

I fucking despise Edelman and really wish he'd died (or, you know, something less severe) after being flattened on that interception play.

[John]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-presents/0ap2000000250293/NFL-Films-Presents-Horsin-around-with-Eric-Berry

Amazing.

[bruhnaldo]

I love this thread because the worst officiating call of all time got like 3 posts and here it's literally all anyone can talk about lol

[thommo]

Because really it is swings and roundabouts - the Rams had a couple go against them earlier in the game. Particularly the facemask on Goff at the goalline, on a drive which resulted in 3 points rather than 7. If that's called correctly and the Rams punch it in, the game changes completely anyway.

[Browning]

Because really it is swings and roundabouts - the Rams had a couple go against them earlier in the game. Particularly the facemask on Goff at the goalline, on a drive which resulted in 3 points rather than 7. If that's called correctly and the Rams punch it in, the game changes completely anyway.

You can’t expect most NFL fans to understand this. Most of the ones I see still think a missed kick at the end of the game means the entire result was the kickers fault and he should never play again, even if their QB chucked 3 pick sixes and the defense allowed a one legged RB to hop his way to 200 yards.

[Dan]

Yeah, I'm totally fine with nobody mentioning that game.

Senior Bowl practices start at 6pm if anyone wants to watch.

EDIT: They're even asking Gruden about the play in his Senior Bowl press conference :D

[Foe]

I mean, the officiating in both games was absolute trash, which is really disappointing.

For both the Chiefs and saints though it really does come down to themselves. The Chiefs offence didn't click at all and the defence just couldn't stop the patriots. The saints had plenty chances to ouch it in but they couldn't, and the Rams barely played their best player.

It's a lose lose form here though. If the Rams win it's controversy and a win with an asterisk to many. If the patriots win, the patriots win.

My least desirable super bowl. :moop:

[niko_cee]

All aboard LA.

They probably should do it as well, the bleeding obvious notwithstanding. They are well equipped to deal with the Pats. Well, until Belichick destroys Goff and or McVay's brains.

[Giggles]

I've tried not to, but I just can't help wanting the Patriots to win.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I want the Rams to win but I'm sure Belichick will draw up something that confuses the shit out of Goff which will hamper the Rams.

[Ian]

Asterisk? Nobody will care about that in a fortnight other than Saints fans. It's just something to talk about to pad out two weeks until the game.

Nothing to worry about with a Rams win. I'm all aboard.


I've tried not to, but I just can't help wanting the Patriots to win.

I admire the Patriots but like fuck am I bringing myself to want them to win.

[Dan]

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Montez Sweat killed a man on the first practice session of the entire week. He's looked good so far, as has Daylon Mack. Deebo Samuel v Rock Ya-Sin was pretty fun in the WR/DB drills too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've seen Sweat mocked to Ravens by a few.

Would be great but I see us going guard or RB in the first round and unless we trade around we don't have a second rounder and he's gone by the third.

I'm sure if he puts in a good combine he's probably not even there when we pick in round 1.

[Dan]

The good thing is there are a bunch of EDGE guys who have been talked up as first rounders - Nick Bosa, Josh Allen & Clelin Ferrell are the surefire guys, with Brian Burns, Montez Sweat & Jachai Polite the others who usually make the list. Then you have small school guys like Jaylon Ferguson & Oshane Ximines who also get thrown in there occasionally, as well as a few guys who might end up as interior guys, Rashan Gary, Charles Omenihu & Zach Allen.

So yeah, there are plenty of edge rushers to go around. You're probably doing okay for all your main positions of need - RB, interior O-Line & WR should all have some good players still on the board in the third round at least.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

An edge rusher and a MLB is right up there too.

Suggs doesn't have long left with Bowser and Williams not showing enough and Za'Darius Smith surely on his way out with a fat contract.

Mosley still hasn't agreed a deal so he could leave although I do think Peanut and Kenny Young are a fine duo with Chris Board and Bam Bradley looking like they could be our next UDFA MLB stars.

[Dan]

Watching the North practices & I'll tell you this much; Jaylen Smith (WR, Louisville) isn't getting drafted if he keeps on like today. Slow, not sure about his effort, literally put his hands out to complain about the coverage mid-rep one time, then actually managed to get some separation & dropped the ball. Pretty much the worst possible start to the week.

EDIT: Both Zach Allen & Charles Omenihu looked unspectacular in the OL/DL drills (although Charles did punk Michael Dieter (https://twitter.com/WurthDraft/status/1087843160699666437)), and given there was already talk of both having to move inside it seems to make a lot of sense. Not sure either will have a great shot on the edge if they can't even consistently beat some the Senior Bowl guys when the drill is weighted in their favour.

Greg Gaines looked good though - far more dynamic as a rusher than I was expecting for a guy who I'd only heard of as a run plugging DT.

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Watching the South OL/DL again & I forgot how full on Carl Granderson was coming :D Dude was flat out the whole time & never stayed in one spot long enough for anyone to get hands on him. Andre Dillard looked good & showed why there are people talking him up as a first round tackle, and your boy Oli Udoh from Elon was pretty solid too, playing tackle & guard. He's going to get drafted for sure.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Chiefs have fired their DC.

Had Dee Ford not been offside he'd still have his job.

[Giggles]

Chiefs have fired their DC.

Had Dee Ford not been offside he'd still have his job.

Judging by their offensive rankings he'd only have had it another fortnight.

[Dan]

Larry's back with the Cardinals for another year :cool:

Also, PJ Williams got picked up for drink driving. Great way to celebrate a championship round loss.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/jan/22/new-orleans-saints-fans-lawsuit-nfl

In the legal equivalent of a Hail Mary pass, two New Orleans Saints season ticket holders have asked a judge to reverse the result of the NFC championship game that sent the Los Angeles Rams to the Super Bowl, or order a replay.

Lol.

[Dan]

Senior Bowl practices are over, so here's a quick list of some winners & losers:

Winners
Deebo Samuel, WR South Carolina - Deebo just dominated the whole week, turning guys inside out, running them deep, easily the star of the week.
Penny Hart, WR Georgia State - Nobody had heard of this kid until this week, but HOLY SHIT HE'S FAST (https://twitter.com/WurthDraft/status/1088518289242886151). Like, seriously fast (https://twitter.com/LedyardNFLDraft/status/1088516830627577856). Tyreek Hill fast. (https://twitter.com/JoshNorris/status/1088215718171156480) His acceleration is hilarious & he's really quick through his routes too. He's 5' 8" 180lbs & his hands aren't perfect, but he'll be a big play guy in the NFL
Andre Dillard, OT Washington State - Really good feet, consistently did well in OL/DL drills & really helped his chances of going round one
Chris Lindstrom, OG Boston College - Nasty dude, strong & shut down power rushers basically every time. Good anchor & able to recover well when he did get beat. Got fired up a couple of times during practices - give me him to replace Andrus Peat please.
Drew Lock, QB Missouri - Mostly for his off field stuff. Came across really well in the interviews he did, but he was the best QB there on the field too
Greg Gaines, DT Washington - Short, powerful guy who was driving linemen back all week.
Terry McLaurin, WR Ohio State - Three impressive days, showing a good all-round skill set. Probably the second best WR this week behind Deebo.
Rock Ya-Sin, CB Temple - Baller name, pretty much the only guy who gave Deebo some competition
Will Harris, S Boston College - Hadn't really heard much about him, but he made some really nice plays & definitely helped himself
LJ Collier, DE TCU - Another one I'd not really heard of, but he was consistently good & easily outshone a lot of the bigger name guys


Losers
Michael Dieter, OG Wisconsin - Neither Wisconsin guard did particularly well (Beau Benzschawel being the other), but Deiter was getting killed all week in drills
Zach Allen, DE Boston College - Had some first round hype, but couldn't beat anyone in OL/DL & basically just bull-rushed everyone without any other plan
Jaylon Ferguson, DE Louisiana Tech - Pretty much the same as Zach Allen, but not quite as bad
Daniel Jones, QB Duke - Confirmed all the concerns I had with him before the week. He's an Andy Dalton/Case Keenum level guy
Jaylen Smith, WR Louisville - Dude's bad. He did win one rep that looked nice, but he's bad.
Sutton Smith, OLB Northern Illinois & John Cominsky, DE Charleston - Grouping these two together because they're two skinny white edge rushers from small schools who looked like high school kids up against the OL & clearly didn't belong


There are probably others too, but we'll see if anyone else stands out in the game tomorrow.

[Giggles]

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Nickel Roby-Coleman has been fined for the hit that never was.

[Dan]

Kris Boyd (CB, Texas) is so bad - three penalties in the first two drives of the Senior Bowl :D He's been like it all season too.

Hunter Renfrow, however :drool: If we got Chris Lindstrom, Hunter Renfrow & Jordan Ta'amu I'd be very happy.

[Giggles]

Standard overall looks weak enough.

[Dan]

Lock with the underhand throw :cool:

Overall talent level isn't the greatest - Deebo Samuel, Montez Sweat, Drew Lock & Daniel Jones are probably the only four who could go round one - but it's packed with mid-round guys who can play.

[Giggles]

What are these stupid clock rules about?

[Foe]

I really hope hunter Renfrew makes it as a slot receiver in the NFL. He's such a likeable character and really, really solid as a catcher.

This on NFL network or sky?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've seen Josh Jacobs mocked to us a fair bit.

What's he like Dan?

[Giggles]

I really hope hunter Renfrew makes it as a slot receiver in the NFL. He's such a likeable character and really, really solid as a catcher.

This on NFL network or sky?

NFL Network.

[Dan]

I've seen Josh Jacobs mocked to us a fair bit.

What's he like Dan?

Beast. (https://thedraftnetwork.com/2018/12/19/5-play-prospect-rb-joshua-jacobs/)

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Matt Miller (https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1083567863204593664) & Daniel Jeremiah (https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1086435647748034561) both fucking love him too - think DJ has him as the 5th best player in the whole class.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If we do get him I'd be so happy.

Sweat, Jacobs or Ford :yn:

[Foe]

Yeah, josh Jacobs was definitely under appreciated at Bama.

They tend to lean on the o line and big runners so your man Damien Harris was the lead.

Their #3 back from last year looked really nifty too. The lad from Ohio was it, that just wasn't recruited by anyone.

[Dan]

Daniel Jones has completely shit the bed this week.

EDIT: He gets the MVP award because he scored a goal-line rushing TD :D

[Foe]

God the pro bowl is on and it's pissing it down. Hardly anyone is there either. Fantastic.

[Giggles]

It's already been cheapened enough by Mitchell Tubrisky being anywhere near it.

[niko_cee]

Why do they even bother with this?

[Foe]

I kind of got it when they went to Hawaii. It's a reward for the players and it shows Hawaii the NFL which is it so isolated from.

But Orlando? The players probably don't want to be there, the fans don't care, and it's not exactly paradise in January.

Either do it in Hawaii and treat it as a holiday or bin it and just give the guys the recognition they've been great and move on.

The senior bowl at least has competition because there's careers to be made. The pro bowl changes nothing for a player and is just another injury risk (that they try and remove by making it contactless effectively).

[Foe]

That pick from trubisky. :D

[Ian]

I'm astonished that you can put up with watching it.

I managed about 15 minutes of it roughly a decade ago and then stopped for fear of it giving me brain damage.

[Dan]

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:cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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I'd cut him just for appearing in public looking like that.

[Ian]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/17A0C/production/_105408769_captuas234234re.jpg

[Dan]

Kyler out here just making the worst possible impression.

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"I'm getting pretty good at answering, y'know, these questions" :D No, my dude, no you're not.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's a fucking idiot.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

AP NFL MVP: Patrick Mahomes (Chiefs)
AP Offensive Player of the Year: Patrick Mahomes (Chiefs)
AP Defensive Player of the Year: Aaron Donald (Rams)
AP Offensive Rookie of the Year: Saquon Barkley (Giants)
AP Defensive Rookie of the Year: Darius Leonard (Colts)
AP Comeback Player of the Year: Andrew Luck (Colts)
AP Coach of the Year: Matt Nagy (Bears)
Walter Payton Man of the Year: Chris Long (Eagles)

Hall of Fame:

Ed Reed
Champ Bailey
Gil Brandt
Kevin Mawae
Ty Law
Johnny Robinson
Tony Gonzalez
Pat Bowlen

[Ian]

Reed and Bailey. :drool:

[Giggles]

Boselli not getting in means they might as well board the place up.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Philly came out and said they would be picking up Foles' $20m option but he's voided the deal by paying $2m back.

Next option is they either tag him to trade him or just let him walk.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Seen that a lot of people are mocking DK Metcalf to us:

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I wouldn't say no to that.

Edit: I was disappointed with his tame name but I've just checked and the DK stands for DeKaylin Zecharius. Fucking sign him up :drool:

[Gray Fox]

You wont have to, the Ravens head office will when they find out he's not a tight end.

[Dan]

He’s a monster (https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/01/28/dk-metcalf-primed-to-confirm-status-as-freak-athlete). He could bench 100lbs in first grade, and he looked like this at 18 (far right).

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Best WR in the class, just ahead of Kelvin Harmon. Long strider (I’d expect him to run under 4.50), can dominate press, good route runner, a bit inconsistent on contested catches/jump balls but when he gets it right he’s unstoppable.

Injury history (missed about half of his three seasons & ended this one with a neck injury) is probably the biggest thing that can hold him back.

[Dan]

AAF tonight, anyone?

[Giggles]

AAF tonight, anyone?

Game? Time? Where to watch?

[Dan]

There are a couple tonight. Not sure what time exactly (think it's 1am) or where to watch them (apparently they might have the games on their website), but that's what the internet is for.

[Giggles]

Hopefully there's something decent. Not interested in dodgy streams for anything, let alone NFL C.

[Gray Fox]

What's AAF? I thought College Ball was done?

[Giggles]

What's AAF? I thought College Ball was done?

Another 'pro' league for players not on NFL rosters. Like the xfl but there's 4 NFL teams loosely linked to each team. There's a few players you'd recognise.

https://aaf.com

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_of_American_Football



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[Dan]

With stars like Christian Hackenberg, Trent Richardson & Josh Woodrum, how could you not watch?!

[Giggles]

What is the AAF? Notable players, coaches, teams, schedule for new Alliance of American Football league
By Cody Benjamin 2h ago • 3 min read

The new Alliance of American Football is almost ready for kickoff (the two season-openers, San Diego-San Antonio and Atlanta-Orlando, are both on CBS at 8 p.m. ET Saturday, with regional coverage, and can be streamed on CBS All Access). So, what exactly is the AAF? Well, you may have come across some news about former NFL quarterbacks finding new homes, if you've been reading football headlines recently,

CBS Sports Network aired a QB Draft with lead analysis from Kurt Warner, for instance, and in that draft, familiar names like Christian Hackenberg, Josh Johnson (who ended up playing for the Washington Redskins in a few games late in the 2018 NFL season) and Aaron Murray were selected as if starting their NFL careers afresh.

Those quarterbacks -- and countless other players -- are actually preparing to suit up for the AAF, a brand new league set to debut on Saturday.

If you're like most football fans, however, and you're still trying to figure out just what the heck AAF really is, well, you've come to the right place. Here, we've got all the details you need to get ready for the games this weekend (and we've even got Power Rankings):

So what is the AAF?
AAF stands for Alliance of American Football, which was announced in March by co-founders Charlie Ebersol and Bill Polian, the latter of whom spent decades working as an NFL executive. It is an eight-team league that exists to both complement the NFL during the offseason and showcase local, developing talent. Its leadership board features former NFL players Jared Allen, Hines Ward and Troy Polamalu, and its mission is to provide "high-quality professional football fueled by a dynamic Alliance between players, fans and the game." And if you want to see out who we've got in the Week 1 games, check out our picks.


What are the teams?
The AAF's inaugural eight franchises are as follows:

Arizona Hotshots
Atlanta Legends
Birmingham Iron
Memphis Express
Orlando Apollos
Salt Lake Stallions
San Antonio Commanders
San Diego Fleet


Who are some notable coaches and players?
The AAF used a QB Draft to allow each of the eight teams an opportunity to either protect allocated quarterbacks or pick one from another region, with those quarterbacks first signing directly to the AAF. Before the draft, dozens of other players had already joined the league, with Hines Ward hinting this fall that "big names" remain on the AAF's radar.

Before any players signed to the league, the AAF also announced head coaches for all eight of its original teams.

Here's a rundown of some of the most notable names on each team entering 2019:

Team: Arizona Hotshots
Coach: Rick Neuheisel
Players: QB Trevor Knight

Team: Atlanta Legends
Coach: Kevin Coyle
Players: QB Aaron Murray, QB Matt Simms, WR Stephen Hill

Team: Birmingham Iron
Coach: Tim Lewis
Players: QB Blake Sims, QB Scott Tolzien, RB Trent Richardson, CB JaCorey Shepherd, K Nick Novak


Team: Memphis Express
Coach: Mike Singletary
Players: QB Christian Hackenberg, QB Zach Mettenberger, RB Zac Stacy, WR Chris Givens

Team: Orlando Apollos
Coach: Steve Spurrier
Players: QB Garrett Gilbert, QB Stephen Morris, WR Frankie Hammond, DB Will Hill

Team: Salt Lake Stallions
Coach: Dennis Erickson
Players: QB B.J. Daniels, QB Garrett Grayson, RB Matt Asiata

Team: San Antonio Commanders
Coach: Mike Riley
Players: RB David Cobb, RB Daryl Richardson


Team: San Diego Fleet
Coach: Mike Martz
Players: QB Josh Johnson, RB Bishop Sankey

When will they start playing?
The AAF's 10-week, 40-game regular season begins Saturday, Feb. 9, at 8 p.m. ET from Spectrum Stadium in Florida, where the Orlando Apollos will host the Atlanta Legends; and from The Alamodome in Texas, where the San Antonio Commanders will host the San Diego Fleet.

CBS is scheduled to broadcast the AAF's Feb. 9 Opening Day, with regional coverage (and you can stream the games on CBS All Access), while CBS Sports Network will then carry one AAF game each week throughout the season (stream those games on CBS Sports Network or on fuboTV, try for free).

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[Gray Fox]

Sounds like I'm all aboard the Memphis Express!

[Dan]

Yeah, I'm tempted - any team who has both Hackenberg & Mettenberger must be on to something.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

THE TRUTH Woodrum :cool:

[Gray Fox]

Have they got the Merchandise ready for it yet?

[Dan]

https://shop.aaf.com/

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

For some reason the NFL Network have games.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://shop.aaf.com/

Fuck this shit, they wont let me put Woodrum on the back of a jersey.

BOYCOTT.

[Dan]

They're palling up with them - half the league officials are ex-NFL guys like Hines Ward & Troy Polamalu - and they've already come out & said they're not trying to complete, they're trying to give guys another place to show they can play. They're letting their own talent sign NFL contacts without any issue (as we've already seen with Josh Johnson), so it's basically a developmental league. May as well get some benefits out of it.

[Dan]

Fuck this shit, they wont let me put Woodrum on the back of a jersey.

BOYCOTT.

Not yet, anyway.

Just checked & the two games tonight are both 1am kickoffs. Think I'll take San Diego/San Antonio over Atlanta/Orlando.

Memphis v Birmingham is 9pm tomorrow night :drool:

[Gray Fox]

This looks like it should have Tim Tebow and Johnny Football involved.

[Dan]

Nah, the XFL starts next year :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just seen that Baltimore are actually affiliated with Arizona Hotshots.

Do I go with Woodrum or my team, hmmm.

[Gray Fox]

The fact that you haven't hopped aboard the Memphis Express is very disappointing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Memphis Express- Cincinnati Bengals, Indianapolis Colts, New Orleans Saints, Tennessee Titans

Fuck that shit.

[Gray Fox]

Hackenberg and Mettenberger though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://uni-watch.com/2018/11/28/league-youve-never-heard-of-debuts-uniforms-you-wont-watch/

I'm going San Diego fleet.

That kit :drool:

Edit: It looks like Packers green on the Shop though :sick:

[Browning]

Matt Asiata :drool:

The best RB in the history of the game, if yardage didn't matter and every play was from the 1 yard line.

[Dan]

The streams are live on the AAF site. They don't seem to have realised in the ATL/ORL game, where they had some dude at the video desk checking his phone, and now have the commentator talking about when they're meant to be filming segments & how Jeff Fisher just swung by to tell them when he'd be up. I think he's also eating :D

Didn't realise they had a blitz limit - only allowed to rush up to five guys. Not quite Senior/Pro Bowl levels, but still a bit rubbish.

[Dan]

They just did a full five minute segment, complete with cutaway to an interview with Steve Spurrier, and they're now doing it again. I don't know whether they've just gone live or not :D

Just gone back to SD/SA & it's dudes standing in front of a load of screens with their backs to the cameras & no audio, so I guess maybe not.

EDIT: Definitely not live - ATL/ORL has gone back to the field audio. Think it's 1am broadcast start & 1:30am kickoff :moop:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I can't get it to load.

[Dan]

Atlanta v Orlando (https://aaf.com/live/GkR2WgCT3P8yhlVLUJkrcj9zm6ae)

San Diego v San Antonio (https://aaf.com/live/GhFcqFumIRg7NHzCjV3JCJGGgt16)

Should be able to access them through the bit on the right side of the homepage, but if not hopefully the direct links work.

Stadiums are both probably under half full.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's laggy as fuck on my end.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Buffering every 5 seconds on my laptop and my Amazon fire TV stick is refusing to play it at all.

[Dan]

You're missing nothing so far - I thought SD/SA had gone live but they were just rehearsing too :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Finally playing on my Fire TV and doesn't seem to be buffering \0/.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

But now my volume has cut out.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

THE FLAG TO END ALL FUCKING FLAGS.

Fuck yeah Murica.

[Dan]

Might be just the broadcast - they were coming & going every few minutes.

Got the anthem on one & a marching band on the other now though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Might be just the broadcast - they were coming & going every few minutes.

Got the anthem on one & a marching band on the other now though.

Yeah, it was the broadcast.

[Dan]

Look at that pathetic flag for the ATL/ORL anthem :nono:

Do they not realise when their mics are on? We've been getting random chatter the entire time on both streams.

[Dan]

This band though :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Commanders/Fleet game is constantly dropping sound.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

And why are they using the crossbar camera?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I love that they cut to Tiki et al and you see them getting ready for being on camera despite being on camera.

[Dan]

Yeah, the production so far has been offensively bad. I can't even tell whether they've actually gone live for real anymore, but when the game starts they absolutely have to get their shit together because this is not good.

[Dan]

I love that they cut to Tiki et al and you see them getting ready for being on camera despite being on camera.

Multiple times, including doing the intro three different times, complete with video packages. SURELY THIS ONE IS THE REAL ONE?!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've seen the Commanders coach do his pre-match talk about 3 times now.

[Dan]

I have no idea why they made the feed go live 90mins ago :D

I sure do know all about Big Play McKay now Tiki!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Blitz limited and no kick offs? fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

[Dan]

BIG PLAY MCKAY :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

WE FLEET WITH BERCOVICI.

Oh shit he just got destroyed.

[Dan]

RIP Mike Bercovici

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He doesn't even take a snap off.

HE IS FLEET TOUGH.

[Pepe]

So what is this shit exactly?

[Dan]

The bridge between college football & the NFL, basically.

[Pepe]

So is it for people that didn't get drafted?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So is it for people that didn't get drafted?

A lot of these did get drafted but it just didn't work out for them.

[Dan]

Anyone not currently on an NFL roster, doesn't have to just be the UDFAs from the last draft class - we have Trent Richardson & Christian Hackenberg on opposite sides tomorrow. Can't remember how they stand with the CFL.

[Pepe]

Some sort of second division then? The rules seem largely the same, right?

[igor_balis]

"fuck!"

:D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh fuck, YOUNGHOE KOO is there.

[Dan]

First points in AAF history go to your boy Younghoe Koo :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I drafted him the year he was in the league, had a team name based on him and had a picture of him. What a don he is.

[Dan]

Some sort of second division then? The rules seem largely the same, right?

They're mostly the same, just a lot of the kicking has been removed - no PATs or onside kicks - and the pace of play is quicker (less timeouts & play clock is shorter), but they can only rush five people.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I am liking that we get the replay official coverage.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck all TV timeouts is brilliant too.

[Dan]

Gonna be through a quarter in half an hour, so that's 10-15mins per quarter faster than NFL speed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

No way was that a catch.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

McKay wants an NFL job.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Trying to murder Bercovici here.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fleet's O-Line is fucking horrendous.

Bercovici is so thankful they can only rush 5.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

First TD from Jalin Marshall.

[Dan]

I fell asleep at the end of the first quarter - there are no highlights on their website, YouTube channel or app. You can't even see a box score :D

Definitely still need to work on the presentation a bit. Fortunately there are highlights elsewhere on YT.

[Giggles]

QB play is too poor to make it worth watching all that much.

[Dan]

Yeah, there were some pretty sloppy performances. Logan Woodside was the most impressive of the guys from last night, but you can see why most of these guys didn't make it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I fell asleep at the half and really enjoyed it. There's a lot to like about it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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That's a class interception.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

For those that didn't see it yesterday:

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Cracking hit.

[Dan]

OH MY GOD HOW DID I NOT KNOW JEFF FISHER WAS HEAD OF FOOTBALL STRATEGY FOR AAF?! :D

Iron v Express in an hour, by the way.

[Giggles]

Is it on anywhere legitimate?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They have it on their website and NFL Network is carrying some games.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They also have an app that carries it.

[Giggles]

The app is saying CBS.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Doesn't matter, I was able to watch on the app yesterday just fine.

[bruhnaldo]

we should do a blind draw and pick teams

[Giggles]

we should do a blind draw and pick teams

I've already picked.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

we should do a blind draw and pick teams

Fuck that.

I'M A FLEET MAN. FLEET ON.

[bruhnaldo]

I should be an Orlando fan but their color scheme is shit

[Giggles]

I've nothing on the app except a graphic of a field and some tripe about predicting the next play.

[Dan]

They're all on aaf.com (https://aaf.com/), I think. If you go there now you can probably catch them rehearsing their intro six or seven times.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's too early.

[Giggles]

Long snapper, punter, and kicker. Looks exciting.

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Stream isn't working on the website at all.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YffWQYTQR9c&feature=youtu.be

They've said that some games on CBS can't be streamed the wankers.

[Dan]

http://opioen.live/memphis-birmingham/

Luis Perez looks good so far - he had some talk as a potential draft sleeper in the 2017 class, so hopefully he & Woodside will be the two guys who actually provide some consistently good QB play.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hackenburg looks exactly as he always has.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That looks like a fabulous catch for me.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Richardson still doesn't know how to protect the ball.

[Dan]

Memphis clearly don't trust Hack. The question to raise there is "in that case, how bad was Zach Mettenberger?' :uhoh:

[Dan]

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They clearly don't trust Hack anymore.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Birmingham punter, Schmidt, could have an NFL contract soon.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

How the fuck did he hit me :D

[Dan]

The Birmingham punter, Schmidt, could have an NFL contract soon.

I think he used to punt for the Bills(?). Brad Wing on the other side used to be the Giants punter until a season or two back.

This Memphis offence has been abysmal.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Adverts for male baldness and catheters. What the fuck?

[Dan]

Pretty standard American TV ads from what I've seen. Weird place.

This Birmingham team is pretty high on the list of potential teams to root for. Shame Patton can't catch anything outside his frame though.

EDIT: Saved by a blurry replay :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mark Butterworth is fucking drunk.

That's a horrific call.

[Ian]

Bill Bryson wrote a bit about American TV ads after moving back over there after years in the UK that amused me.


a man at a bowling alley (men are pretty generally at bowling alleys in these things) grimaces after a poor shot and mutters to his partner, "It's these haemorrhoids again." And here's the thing. The buddy has some haemorrhoid cream in his pocket! Not in his gym bag, you understand, not in the glovebox of his car, but in his shirt pocket, where he can whip it out at a moment's notice and call the gang round. Extraordinary.

[Dan]

That ad probably had just as much of its run time spent on outlining all the potential side effects as it did the actual advert.

The other thing I find is that 80% of all car adverts seem to be for trucks, and most of them are based on shitting on other companies (this applies to internet/phone companies too).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hack actually throws a decent ball and it's take off the board with a flag.

[Dan]

Jamar Summers has been balling. Think he was a Steelers pick in the 2018 draft, so it seems to be all the young guys that are showing out.

EDIT: They signed him as a UDFA & let him go in the final cuts.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What a tackle that was by Ryan White.

[Dan]

If Hack can't complete a pass more than 5yds downfield he needs to get the fuck out of the AAF.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I guess that's why Hack was starting.

[Dan]

Brandon Silvers in & immediately throws a pick. On a screen pass :D Mettenberger must've have had both his arms amputated.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's listed as inactive.

[Dan]

Just seen the Iron have former GB discuss thrower Lawrence Okoye on their roster :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just seen the Iron have former GB discuss thrower Lawrence Okoye on their roster :cool:

Probably not for long:

https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2019/02/birmingham-iron-player-among-13-busted-in-shelby-county-prostitution-sting.html

[Dan]

Oh :D I did see the headline a few days ago but didn't read it. In similar news, Wyoming DE Carl Granderson, who was at the Senior Bowl, has just been charged with sexual assault, so he probably won't be getting drafted now.

Jamar Summers MVP :hail:

[John]

Probably not for long:

https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2019/02/birmingham-iron-player-among-13-busted-in-shelby-county-prostitution-sting.html

The last guy mentioned in that article is my favourite ever person. How thick must you be to get done with three separate drug charges but no solicitation during a hooker sting? :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The 65 year old :cool:

[Dan]

Asiata loyal to the brand :cool:

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Woodrum had a couple of nice throws, but Rashad Ross balled out for Arizona. Good first week, I’d say. Couple of teams that look trash, but the rest should be competitive.

[Dan]

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It’s decided.

[John]

Browns have signed Kareem Hunt.

[John]

Lol at that Murray twat. Imagine the state of him when Aaron Donald or Khalil Mack get their hands on him. Especially with Donald's new way of spinning people to the ground, it'll look like a hammer throw.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I hope he goes to the Dolphins as many have mocked him too.

We get to play them this season and I'd love to see our pass rush destroy the boy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They also play the Chargers. Bosa and Ingram could batter him too.

[Giggles]

Hunt and Chubb :drool:

[bruhnaldo]

....most of them are based on shitting on other companies (this applies to internet/phone companies too).

I feel like most things with direct rivals here do that to an extent. It was much better when other brands could potentially get sued for using their rivals name/brand/likeness so it forced everyone to be slightly more clever with their disses.

Nowadays it's basically "Pepsi is the suck drink Coke, bro!" and that's it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Buy our catheters because the others just don't slide it as easy!

[Dan]

He’s a monster (https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/01/28/dk-metcalf-primed-to-confirm-status-as-freak-athlete). He could bench 100lbs in first grade, and he looked like this at 18 (far right).

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Best WR in the class, just ahead of Kelvin Harmon. Long strider (I’d expect him to run under 4.50), can dominate press, good route runner, a bit inconsistent on contested catches/jump balls but when he gets it right he’s unstoppable.

Injury history (missed about half of his three seasons & ended this one with a neck injury) is probably the biggest thing that can hold him back.

This is him now.

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UUUUUUAAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHH :flex: :flex: :flex:

[Giggles]

I hope Murray bombs to round 3.

[Foe]

What happens to his Oakland contract with them? Is he 4
Million in the hole?

He must have it on pretty good authority he's heading in round 1. Or at least this is the first pre requisite teams needed for this to happen.

[Dan]

Guess he'll just pay it back out of the much larger amount of money he'll get for being a first round pick in the NFL.

[Dan]

Potential top 15 talent Jeffery Simmons (DT, Mississippi State) has had a bad few weeks. First he wasn’t invited to the combine because of a high school incident where he hit a woman who was attacking his sister, and now he’s potentially torn his ACL. Someone is going to get a bargain.

Also this:

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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There are so many salty Steelers fans venting on Twitter.

[Dan]

I won’t be burning mine.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Traitor.

[Dan]

I hope they trade him to the Jags for Ramsey so both my non-Saints jerseys can be outdated at the same time :drool:

[thommo]

Damn, it's going to be weird seeing him turn out for another team. I know he's temperamental and has a "diva" attitude, but whenever he was on the field, you knew there was a chance, and his last few seasons have been so impressive.

Time for JuJu to step up to that WR1 role. His numbers were good enough this year but I don't know how he'll cope with the extra attention of the top defensive backs.

[Dan]

They’ve got to hope James Washington can step up next year if they do get rid of AB. The real question is how much will they get for him?

A pick in the 20-50 range seems about fair, but everyone is all over the place when it comes to valuing players & picks, so no doubt there will be outrage if he’s traded for less than two first rounders.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Unlucky, Ian.

[Ian]

Flacco to Denver. I know it can't get much worse than we've been at that position since Manning's shoulder fell off but... ugh.

[Dan]

I don’t get it. What does he do for you that you aren’t basically getting from Keenum already?

Throws all the Drew Lock talk up in the air too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fangio worked with Flaccid one season.

[Dan]

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Cap management :harold:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That is incredible.

[Dan]

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:drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Slightly better than Brock :drool:

[Ian]

I don’t get it. What does he do for you that you aren’t basically getting from Keenum already?

Throws all the Drew Lock talk up in the air too.

Nah, I reckon while he's got a relatively free reign to do as he fancies he'll still go balls deep on a QB in the draft.

[Giggles]

What are Baltimore going to do for a QB then?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What are Baltimore going to do for a QB then?

We're just going to use a running back there.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Word is that we got a fourth rounder for him.

Not bad considering we were going to cut him.

[thommo]

They’ve got to hope James Washington can step up next year if they do get rid of AB. The real question is how much will they get for him?

A pick in the 20-50 range seems about fair, but everyone is all over the place when it comes to valuing players & picks, so no doubt there will be outrage if he’s traded for less than two first rounders.

I'm not that keen on Washington. Was excited when he was drafted but he looked quite poor this year, good athletic ability and speed as he did get open a few times, but he dropped some key passes in big situations. Hopefully he can iron those out, and if anyone can help a WR improve, it's the Steelers.

I can see AB going for a late first and maybe.... a fourth? I know the Cooper trade was inflated because it was mid-season, but if I'm basing it off of that, I think that would probably be fair.

[Ian]

Word is that we got a fourth rounder for him.

Not bad considering we were going to cut him.

The good news, such as it is, is that we can basically bin him whenever at no hit if we need to.

Literally no reason I can see to sign him other than familiarity with the coaches though.

[Browning]

I reckon teams will low ball the Steelers. No reason to offer a first for a 31 year old who doesn’t want to be there.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The good news, such as it is, is that we can basically bin him whenever at no hit if we need to.

Literally no reason I can see to sign him other than familiarity with the coaches though.
You also had an extra fourth due to the Thomas trade.

[Giggles]

John

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[Ian]

It's a shame it's not his real name but Poop Johnson is still pretty good.

[John]

It not being his real name might actually make it better, because he's choosing to be called 'Poop'.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

AAF made an approach to Kaepernick but he's rejected them.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4JdsjJDGS0

This is where 'Poop' comes from.

[Pleb]

Where's this Murray QB guy going in the draft?