The NFL Thread

[Foe]

Surely kaepernick is a better fit in Carolina?

:sherlock:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gus Edwards is looking damn good today.

13 rushes for 96 yards, 1 TD and a 2 point conversion.

[Giggles]

Surely kaepernick is a better fit in Carolina?

:sherlock:

Peterman will be signed before Kaepernick.

[Foe]

Cam is back.

Washington need a qb though. Shame RG3 is on the ravens.

Manziel would probably fob off the CFL...

[Dan]

Washington giving up even more picks for an RG3 reunion would be amazing, to be fair :D

[Dan]

That Bengals/Ravens 'fight' :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

First time we've had a 100 yard rusher (well 2, Edwards and Jackson) this season. Previous best was Collins with 68 against the Broncos.

Collins only has 393 rushing yards this year. Edwards and Jackson have combined for 226 thus far today.

[Giggles]

What's the relevance of that stupid train sound in Atlanta? Like even that annoying fucking horn in Minneapolis kind of makes sense but where's the Atlanta or Falcon train link?

[thommo]

Don't they do it in Detroit also? Not a clue but it is quite grating.

[Foe]

Detroit makes sense kind of given its ford field.

So glad I decided to start Derick Henry today after his monster game last week when he was on my bench.

[Giggles]

That's horrendous from Newton.

[thommo]

Big Ben :hail:

[John]

Twenty eight carries for Fournette today, for a total of ninety five yards. How the Dickens did they come so close to turning over the Steelers with that as their most potent weapon?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Pittsburgh doing nothing until the 4th quarter.

[Gray Fox]

Carr and Gruden arguing already. I look forward to that implosion.

[Gray Fox]

Stop it, stop it! We're already dead.

[Dan]

Cam down too now, although surely nothing as serious as Alex Smith.

Sam Bradford will be getting some calls tomorrow, you'd have to imagine.

Nope, they’re rolling with Colt McCoy & signing the Sanchize to back him up.

In other words, they’re giving up on the season.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Will someone please give us some draft picks for RG3?

[Gray Fox]

So you can draft another Tight End?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tight ends are the future.

[Gray Fox]

What in the actual fuck was that game? Madness!

[John]

I switched it on with about ten minutes to go and saw two touchdowns, two interceptions, and I think five changes of possession total that didn't involve a score. Terrific viewing.

Mahomes already has more TDs than the league leader in five of the last ten years, and there's been no five game spell this season which, if replicated, would see him end the year with fewer than fifty.

[Dan]

Well that was a straight up Big 12 game - no defence at all, and everyone just gunning it up the field.

There’s a part of me that fucking hates it too - it seems like we’re going more & more towards just making it so offences can score at will, because bigger scores = better games, but maybe the whole point is that you should be able to win with any style if you can master it.

Right now you literally don’t have a shot unless your offence can hit 35+pts per game without breaking sweat, which means there’s no point even thinking about building a ‘run first & play defence’ style team or even a conservative passing team, because you’re just going to get blown off the field no matter how good your defence is.

The fact that even the Patriots, the best & most consistent offence of the last decade, with the best QB & coach of all time, are pretty much given no shot this year because they can’t put forty on the board every week pretty much sums it up.

[Giggles]

11 of 13 games decided by 5 or less, 9 of them by 3 or less. Quite a week.

[thommo]

I made it to the end of the 3rd quarter, and had to wave the white flag and get some sleep. Quite gutted I did now. Unbelievable performances from both offences, but it was a couple of key defensive plays that sealed the deal. Apart from Chris Jones and maybe Dee Ford, I can't see any major playmakers on the Chiefs defence.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

This has been thrilling...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That was an impressive second effort by Blount.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What the fuck is this voice?

[Giggles]

This is so fucking shit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Eddie Jackson :drool:

That's beautiful play recognition.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That was a great heads up play by the lineman.

He pulled Cohen for about 5 yards and the first down.

[Giggles]

What the fuck was that pass? :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Ryan family are detestable.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Not allowed to jump in this year.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I picked the right time to take a shit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cooper is having a decent quarter.

That hit on Reed, fucking hell. No idea how there wasn't a flag.

[Dan]

Brees throwing TDs to four UDFAs :cool:

Defence has improved a lot lately too. I can’t wait to see how we mess it up this time.

[Giggles]

God I'd love to see Brees win it this year.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Loomar will be starting again as Flacco is still injured/shit.

[Dan]

McKenzie Milton :( Just got in & turned on the UCF game. Does not look to have been good.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000991639/article/houston-texans-owner-bob-mcnair-dies-at-age-81

Bob McNair has died.

[Dan]

Don't remember hearing that he'd been ill, but I guess he's 81. Still a shame, obviously - even though he seems to have been a bit of a mad, old conservative, the Texans wouldn't exist without him.

Changing tones completely, DK Metcalf has declared for the draft despite missing a decent chunk of the college season with a neck injury. This has been talked about as a weak WR class, but while there probably isn't an obvious dominant player in the class, it does feel absolutely stacked with very capable receivers, and DK Metcalf has got a lot of love in draft circles as one of the best, so it'll be interesting to see if he makes it off the board on day one.

Also, if I need a QB in this draft class I think I'd be pretty tempted to ignore all the top guys & just take a look at Eric Dungey or Jordan Ta'amu, who both might end up being available on day three. If Herbert & Haskins both go back it'd be seriously tempting to roll with one of Dungey & Ta'amu for a year & then have the option to dip into a monster QB class in 2020 if they don't show much.

Finally, Ohio State straight dicking Michigan :cool:

[Foe]

Michigan have done a Wisconsin Here. Win and you're in but you fuck it up. And they fucked it up so badly it's probably irreversible

Going to open an interesting conversation of Georgia v Oklahoma v Ohio state v Michigan. If georgia lose in the sec final and Oklahoma beat Texas I Think they might go, and they might well let in 70 or 80 against tua.

[Dan]

Reuben Foster has been arrested for domestic violence again...

Also just seen the LSU v Texas A&M score :cab:

[Foe]

Yeah, LSU were out of it anyway but that's ridiculous. Must force you to go for 2 in OT after OT3.

Justin Herbert got hurt this week did he not? Interested to know how bad that is. Milton got blown up too, so ucf are devalued.

Just watching the saints falcons game now. Brees is some boy. Was it last year or the year before where he was struggling hugely and I looked like his arm had gone? Must've been playing hurt because he is looking clutch. Really hope he gets MVP this year. Ridiculous if he goes his career without being MVP.

[Gray Fox]

Rueben Foster just got cut.

He was arrested for domestic violence Saturday night. Obviously the straw that broke the camels back.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm sure there will be a lot of teams willing to take a chance on him.

Complete moron despite his amazing talent.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Alex Collins surprisingly out.

Means Gus the Bus is the starter and I think with another good game he'll be full time starter.

[niko_cee]

Quite a few extra giants out there on the field today.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Njoku :drool:

Strange leap but worked out well.

[Dan]

Saquon is just a cheat code.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bengals getting a fisting.

Remember guys, Hue thought he should have had more time...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

lol at Moncrief and Wallace.

They will never let it go.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fournette and Lawson ejected for fighting.

Ha.

[Giggles]

Large testicles from Seattle there.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Suggs :drool:

[Giggles]

Suggs :drool:

Getting oxygen after 43 yards :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's an old man.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gus Edwards with over 100 yards again, I think he's done enough to replace Collins.

Also, this was the first time we've had consecutive 200 yard rushing games since the Super bowl season. IT'S HAPPENING.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's coming back but what a throw by Driskel and catch by Boyd.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Grimble :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Not too shabby that.

[bruhnaldo]

the dolphins are fucking stupid and i'm upset about it

[Gray Fox]

Marvin Jones and Jack Doyle to IR apparently.

[Dan]

Andy Dalton too, and they’ve signed Tom Savage so that’s their playoff hopes out the window for another year.

[Giggles]

Be interested in seeing more of Driskell.

[Dan]

Bortles is being replaced by Cody Kessler :drool:

[Gray Fox]

Th day that keeps on giving.

They fired the OC too. Apparently he was called in but was under the impression it was to discuss a QB change. Got told that wasn't the only thing that was changing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bortles benched.

Jags will start Cody fucking Kessler, that's how bad it has gotten.

Edit: Should have refreshed, fuck you Dan.

[Dan]

Reuben Foster has been claimed, but it’s not been confirmed by who yet. Adam Schefter initially said Cleveland but has backtracked.

You’d have to imagine it’s the Bengals or Cowboys.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He'd fit in well with the Bengals.

Can't imagine the Cowboys taking him. Vander Esch and Jaylon Smith have formed a mean partnership.

[Dan]

Foster, Burfict & Mixon on the same team would be amazing :D They should embrace it & become the Cincinnati Bastards

[Dan]

Foster, Burfict & Mixon on the same team would be amazing :D They should embrace it & become the Cincinnati Bastards

It’s Washington, apparently.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I wonder if the Ravens put a bid in, although they were probably still wary because of Ray Rice.

Kenny Young and Peanut have looked really good this year but Mosely has struggled in pass coverage and in the last year of his deal.

Ruben Foster (when not beating women) and Kenny Young would be a pretty mean duo.

[Dan]

Here’s a story for Mahow.

Josh Woodrum was selected 8th by the Salt Lake Stallions in the AAF QB only Draft last night.

The three round draft also included Aaron Murray, Scott Tolzien, Zach Mettenberger & Christian Hackenberg :drool:

Here’s a look at the uniforms too. (www.cbssports.com/general/news/aaf-football-ranking-the-eight-uniforms-unveiled-for-2019-league)

Just looking at the rosters - Birmingham Iron have Trent Richardson :cool:

Stallions also have Matt Asiata & superstar long snapper from the 2018 Senior Bowl Tanner Carew, so they might be the team of TTH.

[Giggles]

Didn't even know there was a new league starting.

[Dan]

It kicks off February 9th, apparently. Sounds like it’ll be awful, but it’s another place for guys to play after college, and it fills some of the gap between NFL seasons, so I guess there’s potential there.

It’ll be interesting to see if anyone gets NFL calls should they dominate there. Luis Perez got some sleeper talk before the draft so he could be one to watch for a practice squad next year if he does well.

[Giggles]

Just been having a run through on it there. Love some of the new rules especially the no-kickoffs and what they do for onsides.

Hopefully they'll do something with streaming games.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Josh 'The Truth' Woodrum :drool:

Some of the names there are incredible.

Also, Flaccid (my phone autocorrected and I'm sticking with it) isn't expected back this week.

[Dan]

Apparently Gus the Bus has an ankle injury, so it could be time for Mahow’s first love Kenneth Dixon to get another shot.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I don't think it's anything serious, he probably just missed practice so he could rest it.

I think about 20 players missed practice yesterday.

[Dan]

Yep, that was pretty much inevitable :moop:

[Dan]

Well, I think it's time for me to change my profile pic... (http://www.tmz.com/2018/11/30/kc-chiefs-kareem-hunt-attacked-kicked-woman-surveillance-video/)

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Months before the season too. The NFL are such pricks.

[niko_cee]

I know it's their whole thing to be sensationalist about everything, but that's just about the most nothing fracas of all time.

[Browning]

He’s been cut.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Such bullshit from the league.

Basically, you can do any violent thing as long as the video isn't publicly released.

[Foe]

Kareem Hunt will get picked up on waivers by someone. He's still on his rookie deal and they'll stash him for next year once he's served a 6 or 10 game suspension. Plus, reliable kickers are hard to find in this league.

[niko_cee]

Kickers?

What does cut mean anyway, and, other than as a PR exercise, why would the Chiefs release him if he's just going to get an X games suspension and then come back a new man somewhere else? Presumably they're paying him a pittance relative to his (former) worth at the moment.

[Foe]

It's an almost unwritten rule it seems that if a player fucks up in a market, ie a team, he needs a fresh start somewhere else in the country. They can claim he's a new man, a new start and get over the initial fan apprehension on the hope he stays clean.

If it backfires, they release him and the GM gets a pasting.

[Gray Fox]

Talent wise, it's impossible that he doesn't get picked up pretty sharpish. There are teams with questionable running situations that will have him. I mean can you imagine him on a team like Philly, or Baltimore, Atlanta or Houston. All teams That are good, but need help running the ball.

Fair play to the Chiefs in saying this is bigger than football, but there'll be someone already putting together a plan for picking him up.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I doubt Ozzie will go near him. They're still shitting themselves over the Ray Rice incident.

[Foe]

Talent wise, it's impossible that he doesn't get picked up pretty sharpish. There are teams with questionable running situations that will have him. I mean can you imagine him on a team like Philly, or Baltimore, Atlanta or Houston. All teams That are good, but need help running the ball.

Fair play to the Chiefs in saying this is bigger than football, but there'll be someone already putting together a plan for picking him up.

I mean Kansas City haven't really done that, as they've still got tyreek hill. They've just bolted to save face for this particular example. Wouldn't be surprised if something came out about Marcus peters either after he got jettisoned. It's all about risk and PR. If they think they can get production without handling all sorts of PR questions they'll do it. They can now claim he lied to them, they didn't know, and move on. Someone else will have to answer to his character if he gets picked up.

[Gray Fox]

If the NFL has taught us anything, it's that the Redskins will already be printing his name on their shirts.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yesterday Collins was a full participant in training, today he was put on IR to make room for Dixon.

Got to think that he's done with us now. Team prefer Dixon over him and Gus the Bus has broken out.

[Gray Fox]

You're always going to have a problem if you can't keep the ball in your hands. Especially when another kid breaks out behind you.

I imagine he wont be long in finding a home next year though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That and he's not been anywhere near as effective this year. The foot problems and worse blocking haven't helped ofc.

They also don't trust him in receiving or to pass block.

[Dan]

I hate all the QB run plays inside the 10 in college football. Sam Ehlinger has scored two short TDs on designed QB runs already & I'd really rather watch them try to actually pass the ball for once.

And yeah, I say that with a running college QB in my avatar :D Milton actually throws the ball as well though.

[Foe]

Good start from Georgia here. They might actually make a game of this.

[Dan]

I've just got back from the cinema. Alabama will come out pissed off in the second half & run them over. Hopefully UCF can pull the win out too, but it sounds like it's been the Darrell Henderson signature game that'll get him from being a hyped up sleeper in the 2019 draft to being an actual, talked about prospect.

[Dan]

Love the double fake from Channing Tindall on that sack - took a step forwards to make the RB think he was blitzing, then dropped a few steps to fool him into releasing into a route, and then ran straight through untouched to take down Tua :cool:

Think he's only a freshman too (maybe a sophomore), so that kind of football intelligence is impressive.

Speaking of impressive, that throw from Jake Fromm :drool:

HOT ROD NO! :( That'll be the turning point then.

JR Reed coming up with a play. Thrown behind Waddle though, which gave him the chance to reach the ball. Not Tua's finest game (so far).

If you didn't know Jaylen Waddle was fast, that TD just proved it. Look at UCF getting right back into their game too - just gone 42-41 up against Memphis.

Fucking hell, what a spectacular way to bottle this one Georgia :D Alabama loses their star QB so Georgia lets the rubbish one go up & down the field on them, then just voluntarily puts in their own rubbish, running QB to fuck up their crucial drive, then tries to give it to him again on a 4th & 11 fake. Absolute fucking idiots, and they deserve to lose this now.

[Dan]

Travis Etienne is pretty good.

UCF dominated Memphis in the second half of their game, and ended up winning pretty easily. Think they had six second half TDs (four of which were QB rushing TDs, of course).

[Foe]

Love the double fake from Channing Tindall on that sack - took a step forwards to make the RB think he was blitzing, then dropped a few steps to fool him into releasing into a route, and then ran straight through untouched to take down Tua :cool:

Think he's only a freshman too (maybe a sophomore), so that kind of football intelligence is impressive.

Speaking of impressive, that throw from Jake Fromm :drool:

HOT ROD NO! :( That'll be the turning point then.

JR Reed coming up with a play. Thrown behind Waddle though, which gave him the chance to reach the ball. Not Tua's finest game (so far).

If you didn't know Jaylen Waddle was fast, that TD just proved it. Look at UCF getting right back into their game too - just gone 42-41 up against Memphis.

Fucking hell, what a spectacular way to bottle this one Georgia :D Alabama loses their star QB so Georgia lets the rubbish one go up & down the field on them, then just voluntarily puts in their own rubbish, running QB to fuck up their crucial drive, then tries to give it to him again on a 4th & 11 fake. Absolute fucking idiots, and they deserve to lose this now.

Yep the missed field goal fucked them mentally and then hurts of all people managed to nail the end.

Waddle is absolutely electric. Bama are just loaded at wideout. Ruggs, waddle and Judy just doesn't keep things fair.

[Dan]

DeVonta Smith is pretty good (and fast) as well. Alabama, Michigan & Ole Miss all have stacked WR groups, but the Bama team is all first & second year players, which is terrifying.

I just don’t know why Georgia keep taking the ball out of Jake Fromm’s hands when he’s carving Alabama up. Sounds like the fake punt was open right up until the second they snapped the ball & Dylan Moses got over to cover DeAndre Swift, but it still feels a bit aggressive given the other option was kicking it deep & making Jalen Hurts drive the length of the field.

It’s definitely going to be interesting to see what the final four ends up being now - obviously it should be either Georgia or Oklahoma for the final spot, but no doubt Ohio State will be making a hard push & UCF are still playing the game too. The ‘expand the playoffs to 8 teams’ argument has really got louder this season, so hopefully that’s something that gets some serious consideration in the offseason.

[Dan]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000994219/article/kareem-hunt-faces-more-than-baseline-sixgame-suspension

Sounds like there was another incident involving Kareem in June. It’s just staggering how stupid these players can be, and how often they go around twatting people.

[Foe]

Yeah. There was me dreaming of bama being left out and Georgia deviate. Great game though. We'll get a rematch in the CFP. No way Georgia can be sitting at 4, push number 1 all the way and then drop out. Oklahoma can score, but their defence against bama or Clemson offence? Behave.

Edit, although I can totally see the committee tanking Georgia artificially to give Oklahoma or Ohio state a shot.

Interesting to find out how crocked tua is.

[Dan]

Oklahoma get in over Georgia, and will probably play out a 70-50 loss against Alabama if Tua’s injury is only minor as suggested.

[Giggles]

Snow :drool:

[Foe]

Oklahoma are in. Jesus. That's going to be an offensive showcase between the two heisman front runners.

Noah fant, the Iowa tight end is heading for the NFL too.

[Dan]

As well he should, he's a beast. It'll be interesting to see if TJ Hockenson, the other Iowa TE, joins him or takes a year to have the limelight all to himself.

I'd like to see him, Sternberger, Dawson Know & Albert O all go back, but we'll see. If they all come out this will be the greatest TE class of all time.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jaguars with two 4th down special teams flags :D

They've gone back to full retard after a season of good work.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sam Koch > Flacco.

[Browning]

Sam Koch > Jackson, to be fair.

[Foe]

As well he should, he's a beast. It'll be interesting to see if TJ Hockenson, the other Iowa TE, joins him or takes a year to have the limelight all to himself.

I'd like to see him, Sternberger, Dawson Know & Albert O all go back, but we'll see. If they all come out this will be the greatest TE class of all time.

Sternberger is the guy who transferred from lower division/juco to sec football yeah? Just looked it up, northeastern Oklahoma A&M. Some rise. A bit like the kicker in Baton Rouge.

Interesting that fant did get first team honours, hockenson did. :D

Be interesting to see which of the Georgia players fuck off a bowl. Ridley is a junior so he could join brother in the league. Always assumed he was a small fast guy. He's 6 foot fucking 2. Fuck me.

[Foe]

That kick against the bengals though. Jesus Christ.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hicks :drool:

I love a D-Line scoring from the 1.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Wankers.

[Giggles]

Where's the helmet to helmet bit?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Where's the helmet to helmet bit?

There isn't, which is the point.

Referees called it as helmet to helmet.

[Giggles]

Rodgers really has lost it. You can blame coaches and receivers but he is massively inaccurate these days.

[Dan]

Hicks :drool:

I love a D-Line scoring from the 1.

I hope you've been watching Clemson this season then - I think Christian Wilkins & Dexter Lawrence have at least 3 rushing TDs between them, usually lining up together with Wilkins at RB & Lawrence at FB.

They're about 630lbs combined :drool:

[Dan]

Andre Hal with the pick of Baker. Nice for him having come back from (I think) Hodgkins Lymphoma.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I hope you've been watching Clemson this season then - I think Christian Wilkins & Dexter Lawrence have at least 3 rushing TDs between them, usually lining up together with Wilkins at RB & Lawrence at FB.

They're about 630lbs combined :drool:

I'm going to hunt down these plays. Sounds glorious.

[Foe]

I'm going to hunt down these plays. Sounds glorious.

They are great. As an amateur LB or safety that's a healthy and safety decision right there. No thank you, sir. Have your 6 points.

[Dan]

So, Odell legit has a better arm than Eli at this point.

[Dan]

I'm going to hunt down these plays. Sounds glorious.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wZP0xPGdkY

Wilkins can also play safety:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I000TfYfzxE

[thommo]

Never a horse collar. Given the Lions another life here on the drive.

[Foe]

Lamar Jackson really isn't that great at throwing the ball is he?

Really like josh Allen now too, he looks like he's got a legit chance of hanging around the league. He's going to lose a season or two with an injury though, absolutely no doubt.

[Dan]

Saquon is such a freak.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lamar Jackson really isn't that great at throwing the ball is he?

Really like josh Allen now too, he looks like he's got a legit chance of hanging around the league. He's going to lose a season or two with an injury though, absolutely no doubt.

He's shit at it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Callaway :lol:

[Dan]

Justin Reid is a baller.

[Gray Fox]

Callaway almost channelling his inner D-Jax.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I like Gus Edwards a lot.

He always seems to break the first tackle and/or fall forward for an extra yard or two.

[Foe]

Justin Reid is a baller.

Houstons first rounder. In the third round. :moop:

[Dan]

Who the fuck is Andrew Adams? Clearly Cam doesn't know either, but it looks like he thinks he's a Panther WR.

[Foe]

Not a good week to have vinatieri as your kicker.

Guess who my kicker is?

[Dan]

Hang on, Arizona are beating Green Bay? :cab:

Jesus, blow this thing up guys.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tavon Young :wub:

[Giggles]

That catch from Adams :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Colts let so much time go off the clock in those final couple of plays.

[Giggles]

3rd and 23? Of course they make it.

Packers speciality right there.

[thommo]

Larry Fitz, what a man.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

lol at Newton not having enough strength to throw 50 yards.

[Dan]

Remember when he used to be known as the physical freak #1 overall pick who throws downfield more than anyone else?

Now he can't even throw as far as his undrafted backup.

[thommo]

Hasn't he got a shoulder injury right now? Or is this a more permanent thing?

[Gray Fox]

Giants imploding here.

[Dan]

Chase Daniel showing why he's a backup, dropping his eyes as soon as there's pressure, running around without actually going anywhere & taking a sack.

[Dan]

Giants imploding here.

Odell's attempt to play that onside kick won't exactly help the diva reputation.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh Crosby.

[Giggles]

That has to be Crosby's last chance now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Daniel :drool:

[Dan]

Josh Rosen > Aaron Rodgers. It's official :nodd:

(probably time for Mason Crosby to call it a day now)

[Giggles]

Josh Rosen > Aaron Rodgers. It's official :nodd:

(probably time for Mason Crosby to call it a day now)

There are a lot of QB's better than Aaron Rodgers these days but Josh Rosen will never be one of them.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Charles Clay :face:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The fucking stones to call that play with 2 seconds on the clock.

[Giggles]

Tavon Young :wub:


Daniel :drool:


Charles Clay :face:

Context Mahow. Do we need to be watching redzone to know that "Name + emoji" means?

[Gray Fox]

The Chicago special? I like it.

Top stuff from the Giants here.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Context Mahow. Do we need to be watching redzone to know that "Name + emoji" means?

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Not as easy as you'd expect but he's got to make that.

[thommo]

Clay dropped a wide-open 4th down pass in the endzone in the last minute. Although the pass was very wobbly and low, he literally didn't have anyone with 10 yards of him. Would have won the game for the Bills.

[Dan]

Context Mahow. Do we need to be watching redzone to know that "Name + emoji" means?

He dropped a Josh Allen missile wide open on the goalline on 4th & 11 to lose Buffalo the game. He was coming back to it & had to scoop it off the floor, but he should still have got it.

Nice to see Chicago realising that Anthony Miller is the guy to trust when they need a catch. Now they just need to remember to throw it to him the rest of the time.

[Dan]

Did Kelce just give someone a stunner? :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

First takeaway in 6 games for the Jets.

Nice of him to give them a pick 6.

[Dan]

I like that Jamal Adams was so busy celebrating that he had no idea Mariota was closing in behind him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Fucking glorious.

lol at Hanson on Redzone thinking it was a DDT.

[thommo]

I started the Jets defence in Dynasty too :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Barkley is absolutely ridiculous.

[Pleb]

Mariota :cool:

[Pleb]

Bears have royally fucked that.

[Dan]

It's starting to look like Dallas might've known what they were doing when they cut Dan Bailey :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Brady with 1000 rushing yards :drool:

1.7 rushing yards per attempt, what a man.

[igor_balis]

Andrew luck my fantasy qb, my opponent has mahomes. Fuck off

[Pleb]

:D

[Dan]

:wave: Mike Mac :wave:

[Gray Fox]

Losing at Lambeau to the Cardinals is sackable by itself.

[Giggles]

Might as well just let Rodgers pick the replacement the pouty cunt.

I'd get Jim Harbaugh in.



.

[Dan]

LSU v UCF, Texas v Georgia & Ohio State v Washington look to be the three best bowl games this year.

There are a few other good ones, like Florida v Michigan, Penn State v Kentucky & Texas A&M v N.C. State, but those are the highlight games. Not a super thrilling card overall.

And you know what, I’m slowly starting to fancy Clemson over Alabama.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Might as well just let Rodgers pick the replacement the pouty cunt.

I'd get Jim Harbaugh in.



.

You can have John at the end of the season.

[Pleb]

LSU v UCF, Texas v Georgia & Ohio State v Washington look to be the three best bowl games this year.

There are a few other good ones, like Florida v Michigan, Penn State v Kentucky & Texas A&M v N.C. State, but those are the highlight games. Not a super thrilling card overall.

And you know what, I’m slowly starting to fancy Clemson over Alabama.
Any fantasy rooks to look out for buddy?

[Dan]

Not if you want a QB for next season :D Dwayne Haskins will probably come out, and he’ll be the best of the bunch if he does, but it sounds like Justin Herbert will go back to school, and there you have Drew Lock, Will Grier & Jarrett Stidham as the big school guys, plus guys like Daniel Jones of Duke getting some talk as a first rounder. I like mid-round guys more though, since everyone is going to be a project. Brett Rypien & Jordan Ta’amu are the main two worth keeping an eye on, but you’ll also probably see some hype on Gardener Minshew, if only for the moustache.

There are loads of decent WRs, especially if you like big, athletic, contested catch guys - you could probably get seven Courtland Sutton clones in this draft, but it’s not clear if anyone will really be that stud #1 guy. DK Metcalf, Kelvin Harmon & N’Keal Harry are the most regularly talked up big guys, but then you can throw in JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Collin Johnson, Riley Ridley, Deebo Samuel & Hakeem Butler just for starters, and all of those guys could be gone by the end of day two. Throw in some middle of the field possession/YAC guys like A.J. Brown, Hunter Renfrow & Paris Campbell and you can pretty much get a solid starter no matter what you need.

TE will depend who comes out, but Noah Fant is the big name, and then there could be another bunch of guys behind him who all end up being starters - Irv Smith Jr, Kaden Smith & Caleb Wilson, who was a big thing a season or two ago but seems to be slipping under the radar now, are just a few of them.

RB might not be particularly strong at the top, but there are guys who can all be rotation players that can step up & carry the load if needed - I’ve liked Karan Higdon & Myles Gaskin for a while, but Damien Williams, Rodney Anderson (currently injured, but coming out anyway) & David Montgomery will probably be the headliners. Darrell Henderson will get the sleeper buzz now, and the you have some big guys like Elijah Holyfield & Qadree Ollison who could be productive in the right spot. I also like Nick Brosette from LSU, who’s more in this mould, and then you have Justice Hill if you want a smaller, elusive guy. Oh, and there’s some guy named Bryce Love in there too.

To summarise, if you want guys who might offer something next season:

QB - Dwayne Haskins, Brett Rypien, Will Grier

RB - David Montgomery, Rodney Anderson, Bryce Love, Darrell Henderson

WR - DK Metcalf, Kelvin Harmon, Riley Ridley, AJ Brown, Paris Campbell, Marquise Brown

TE - Noah Fant, Kaden Smith, Irv Smith Jr

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I need to start actually watching film though - most of that was just from listening to so many podcasts :D

EDIT: I just watched DK Metcalf. He's a freak from a physical standpoint, 6'4" 225lbs, explosive, eats up ground with long strides, and absolutely shreds people off the line with a wide range of releases & great use of hands. Problem is, he's not actually very consistent as a catcher, especially in contested catch situations, and he kinda feels a bit soft at times when he has to go up & get it through a defender. When he does bother to attack the ball he's hard to stop, and his strength is obvious at times when he actually uses it, but he's clearly not the finished product - as you'd expect from a redshirt sophomore who's probably played about 15 total games in college.

I like him, and his potential is ENORMOUS, but he's probably not going to be a Julio/AJ Green type player right out the gate.

EDIT 2: You know how I said DK was strong? N'Keal Harry is 15lbs lighter & he's pretty much the WR equivalent of Marshawn Lynch. He plays like he's made of rock.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Colt McCoy broken right fibula.

Sanchize in to save the day.

[Dan]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000994219/article/kareem-hunt-faces-more-than-baseline-sixgame-suspension

Sounds like there was another incident involving Kareem in June. It’s just staggering how stupid these players can be, and how often they go around twatting people.

Next one is that he hit a dude in a club in January. Shockingly he went unclaimed on waivers.

[Dan]

Urban Meyer is stepping down as head coach of Ohio State, with Ryan Day taking over after their bowl game.

[Giggles]

:uhoh:

[Gray Fox]

Kelvin Benjamin to the pit of misery.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I like that Adrian Peterson had a 90 yard run yesterday but wasn't able to top 100 total.

[Dan]

Finally, some good news for Kareem Hunt. (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/12/04/brandon-browner-sentenced-to-eight-years-in-prison-for-attempted-murder/)

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bills receiving corps is amazing.

Zay Jones, Deonte Thompson, Robert Foster, Ray-Ray McCloud and Isaiah McKenzie.

I only know the first two.

[Gray Fox]

Finally, some good news for Kareem Hunt. (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/12/04/brandon-browner-sentenced-to-eight-years-in-prison-for-attempted-murder/)

There's apparently now about 5 instances of him assaulting people or getting into altercations. He's going to end up missing 2 seasons at this rate.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's going to end up going full Hernandez.

[Giggles]

Winston Moss loosely criticises Rodgers, Winston Moss gets fired. And people wondered who was really running things in Green Bay.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000996295/article/packers-part-ways-with-assistant-coach-winston-moss

[Giggles]

Doesn't sound too good.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000996550/article/alex-smith-battling-leg-infection-after-surgery

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They've signed Josh fucking Johnson to replace McCoy.

I get them saying that Kaepernick is different to their system but Josh Johnson? Fuck me.

You can beat women (as long as it's not on camera) and still get work. Start a non-violent protest by kneeling at the anthem and you're dead.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

1070802778807721984

At the draft he could barely walk.

[Gray Fox]

I'll take the Titans.

[Dan]

What the fuck just happened? :D

Always knew Derrick Henry was a star.

[Dan]

Kelvin Benjamin has signed with the Chiefs, apparently. Guess they’re looking for some extra depth on the O-Line.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Derrick Henry :cab:

[Gray Fox]

Kyler Murray wins the Heisman trophy. Back to back for Oklahoma.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Homophobic tweets have popped up too.

[Giggles]

Kyler Murray wins the Heisman trophy. Back to back for Oklahoma.

He the lad that's not going to play football after college?

EDIT: Just seen he's about 5'9" so the baseball would indeed be the way to go.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The only way we're winning today is if we manage to confuse Mahomes with some awkward looking blitzes.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Philbin out of challenges in 82 seconds :cab:

[Dan]

Great start :D

[Giggles]

Philbin out of challenges in 82 seconds :cab:

He was right to challenge both too, both calls wrong.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Kenneth Dixon :drool:

The truth is back.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's so good to have Mark Sanchez back in the league.

[Dan]

Of course Brandon Bolden & James Devlin are the rushing threats in the Patriots/Dolphins game :cab:

[Foe]

Of course Brandon Bolden & James Devlin are the rushing threats in the Patriots/Dolphins game :cab:

Saquan is so, so good. He's going to be all pro.

What do you think the Browns would do knowing what we do now?

Stick as is, or take saquan at 1 and hope baker makes it 4? Or stick with baker and the corner I've forgot the name of who's been quality.

[thommo]

Mayfield and Ward have been too good to say no to. Barkley is an unreal talent, but taking a RB that early on is not necessary when you consider how many good running backs are late-round picks or even UDFAs.

[Dan]

I think they'd stick with what they have, considering they also got Nick Chubb & he's pretty good too.

[Dan]

On a related note, the Giants must be livid that they can't help but blow out the Washington Red Cross to ruin their draft positioning.

[Foe]

Looking forward to the raiders taking Kyle Murray number 1 overall in the draft. He's such a raiders player, he's in Oakland to play baseball ( all be it they are moving to Vegas) and itd be such a stupid, typical raiders pick.

Shame San Fran have garapollo as Herbert would be right up their street, having played in the pac12.

[Dan]

Man, we really just cannot beat the Bucs. Think this might be three in a row.

I'm not sure Justin Herbert is coming out this year - we might be relying on Dwayne Haskins coming out for there to be an actual good QB in the class, otherwise we're hoping Will Grier & Drew Lock come up good. Niners are taking Nick Bosa anyway, assuming they don't fuck everything up by winning a game.

Kyler has said he'd like to try to balance baseball & football, but his agent has pretty much immediately stamped that out, and even if he did he's 5'9" & 170lbs, so he's small for a running back, nevermind a QB. Think about all the shit Baker got for being small, then realise Baker is something like 4 inches & 40lbs bigger than Kyler. He belongs in baseball.

[Foe]

Is quinen Williams draft eligible?

If so, that's 3 stud defensive lineman available, not including any of the Clemson lot who are all potential first rounders too.

Might be a big boy pants kind of draft because there's not much in the way of stud RB talent either.

[Gray Fox]

Saints game is really killing a LOT of people in their play-offs.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

On a related note, the Giants must be livid that they can't help but blow out the Washington Red Cross to ruin their draft positioning.

Wont matter in the first round as they'll still get the QB they need unless someone moves up.

Looking at how will finish with a worse record:

Niners - Jimmy G
Raiders - Carr
Jets - Darnold
Cards - Rosen
Lions - Stafford
Falcons - Matt Ryan
Bills - Allen.

Jags are the only ones that could finish with a worse record and would likely pick a QB.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Man, we really just cannot beat the Bucs. Think this might be three in a row.

I'm not sure Justin Herbert is coming out this year - we might be relying on Dwayne Haskins coming out for there to be an actual good QB in the class, otherwise we're hoping Will Grier & Drew Lock come up good. Niners are taking Nick Bosa anyway, assuming they don't fuck everything up by winning a game.

Kyler has said he'd like to try to balance baseball & football, but his agent has pretty much immediately stamped that out, and even if he did he's 5'9" & 170lbs, so he's small for a running back, nevermind a QB. Think about all the shit Baker got for being small, then realise Baker is something like 4 inches & 40lbs bigger than Kyler. He belongs in baseball.

At least Cairo Santos is trying to keep you in it.

[Dan]

Is quinen Williams draft eligible?

If so, that's 3 stud defensive lineman available, not including any of the Clemson lot who are all potential first rounders too.

Might be a big boy pants kind of draft because there's not much in the way of stud RB talent either.

Yup, he's a redshirt sophomore, so he can declare. He's pretty much considered the second or third best player in the class, depending on how much people have softened on Ed Oliver lately, so you'd think he'd declare, but we'll probably have to wait until after the national championship game to find out for sure.


Wont matter in the first round as they'll still get the QB they need unless someone moves up.

Looking at how will finish with a worse record:

Niners - Jimmy G
Raiders - Carr
Jets - Darnold
Cards - Rosen
Lions - Stafford
Falcons - Matt Ryan
Bills - Allen.

Jags are the only ones that could finish with a worse record and would likely pick a QB.

Jags are moving on from Bortles, apparently, and there's some talk Gruden could move on from Derek Carr as well. If Herbert & Haskins both go back (they'd be insane to from a pure draft stock standpoint, but it could definitely happen), there's not a single QB in the class who's even considered a consensus first rounder, so there might be some big reaches come April.

[Dan]

Look at my boy Brice Butler coming up with the play for Miami :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Wink Martindale has done really well thus far.

That 3rd down play with no one deep confused the fuck out of Mahomes.

[Foe]

Yup, he's a redshirt sophomore, so he can declare. He's pretty much considered the second or third best player in the class, depending on how much people have softened on Ed Oliver lately, so you'd think he'd declare, but we'll probably have to wait until after the national championship game to find out for sure.



Jags are moving on from Bortles, apparently, and there's some talk Gruden could move on from Derek Carr as well. If Herbert & Haskins both go back (they'd be insane to from a pure draft stock standpoint, but it could definitely happen), there's not a single QB in the class who's even considered a consensus first rounder, so there might be some big reaches come April.

If both Haskins and Herbert go back they're nuts. Tua comes out next year and this year is pretty thin. Not a huge amount of free agent qbs available either.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cyrus Jones with a brilliant punt return.

He's so damn good.

[Dan]

I'd be surprised if Haskins goes back, especially now Urban Meyer has gone (not that it sounds like much is going to change at Ohio State), but Herbert had an underwhelming season, got hurt at the end & wants to play on the same team as his brother, who's coming to Oregon to play TE next year, so the talk has slowly shifted towards him staying in college.

Tua, Fromm, Eason & Herbert could be a quality class next year, with guys like Brian Lewerke, Joe Burrow, Khalil Tate & Jake Bentley having the chance to provide solid depth, and then you'll also have Kelly Bryant & maybe Jalen Hurts. Hopefully McKenzie Milton will be able to come back & play too.

[Dan]

Josh Johnson > The Sanchize

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Browns :D

PAT is good, they accept an offside penalty and miss the re-take.

[Browning]

That's the most Browns play of all time.

[Dan]

Look at this Ravens defence giving it to the Chiefs (except Travis Kelce) :drool:

EDIT: Shouldn't have said that.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck you Mahomes and Hill.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tyreek Hill limps after that and they throw a screen to him on the next play.

[Foe]

I'd be surprised if Haskins goes back, especially now Urban Meyer has gone (not that it sounds like much is going to change at Ohio State), but Herbert had an underwhelming season, got hurt at the end & wants to play on the same team as his brother, who's coming to Oregon to play TE next year, so the talk has slowly shifted towards him staying in college.

Tua, Fromm, Eason & Herbert could be a quality class next year, with guys like Brian Lewerke, Joe Burrow, Khalil Tate & Jake Bentley having the chance to provide solid depth, and then you'll also have Kelly Bryant & maybe Jalen Hurts. Hopefully McKenzie Milton will be able to come back & play too.

I was speaking to an LSU fan at work recently and he was raving about burrows. I thought this was his last year but apparently not. LSU have a chance to be even better next year if he's more accustomed to the system.

Khalil tate has been so under whelming this year. He needs to have a big, big year or he'll be a late round pick who's primarily a runner.

Tbf Kevin sumlin is far, far from a qb guru. He managed to run three qbs out of town in college station in the space of a year. One of whom went onto win the heisman.

[Browning]

Mahomes :drool:

He's ridiculously good.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Loomar :face:

He has to know that they're coming all out for him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Eat shit mother Butker.

[Browning]

Glad he missed it, need more points from Mahomes, and he's bound to get it against these clowns :drool:

[thommo]

Awful snap for the kick. I'm almost rooting for the Ravens here. ALMOST.

[Dan]

I was speaking to an LSU fan at work recently and he was raving about burrows. I thought this was his last year but apparently not. LSU have a chance to be even better next year if he's more accustomed to the system.

Khalil tate has been so under whelming this year. He needs to have a big, big year or he'll be a late round pick who's primarily a runner.

Tbf Kevin sumlin is far, far from a qb guru. He managed to run three qbs out of town in college station in the space of a year. One of whom went onto win the heisman.

I think Burrow is going to be one of those guys who could turn out alright, but probably won't become a franchise guy. Compared to the trash LSU have been rolling out the last few years, though, he's Peyton Brady.

Khalil Tate was basically doing the Loomar schtick his first season, but it sounds like they tried to make him a pocket guy this season, which didn't work out as well. If they can balance the two it'd probably do him the world of good, but yeah, it's not the ideal situation to be in.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Miami :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

[Dan]

Wow. Miami.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Makes it all the sweeter than Gronk was back there as a safety and whiffed on his tackle.

[thommo]

Oh my god Miami.

[Foe]

That Miami ending was ridiculous.

[Browning]

Fucking hell that was beautiful :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mahomes trying to dribble the ball :harold:

[thommo]

How was that not a fumble by Dallas on the kick off?

Could have easily been DPI too on Fuller in the last play of the Chiefs-Ravens game.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Would have been better had they just destroyed us.

It's the hope that kills you :(

[phonics]

I’m confused I just saw the Dolphins do multiple backward passes. Why wouldn’t you just play like Rugby?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Because it almost never works.

[Foe]

You mean more often? Laterals are used on occasion, but if you get it wrong it's a defensive touchdown or turnover. Forward pass dropped is a dead play. Lateral or backwards pass dropped is a fumble.

[Giggles]

I’m confused I just saw the Dolphins do multiple backward passes. Why wouldn’t you just play like Rugby?

Far too risky.