The NFL Thread

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

James Harrison has retired.

[Dan]

CJ Anderson has been cut. Gotta think he’ll end up in Miami, considering they just tried to trade for him. Tampa are probably in the mix too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jackson is visiting the Ravens today. It seems more and more likely that we'll take him at 16 should he be there.

[Dan]

We're going to have all six QBs go in the first round, aren't we? It's going to be madness if everyone starts throwing picks around to try to get them before they go.

[Browning]

At most two of them will still be starting games in 3 years time.

[Giggles]

Is it on this Thursday?

[Dan]

26th, about 1am I think.

[Dan]

At most two of them will still be starting games in 3 years time.

Which two though?

[Browning]

Not a clue, but history tells us you don't get that many elite QBs in one draft.

[Dan]

How many did we get from the 2004 one? Rivers, Ben & Eli, but was there anyone else as well? That’s got to be the best QB class of the millennium, right?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/schaub.jpg

Can't forget Matt Schaub.

[Giggles]

Schaub would be the only other decent one really.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=position

83 is probably the best ever and 2012 would be up there if Luck wasn't always injured now and RG3 hadn't been found out.

'07 has to be the worst there (discounting the early ones because I haven't a clue), there's absolutely fuck all there. Fun fact though, Kevin Kolb was rated as A for potential on Madden up to '11 or something I think which was my first year.

Him, Jimmy Clausen, Arrelious Benn, Jahvid Best, Tony Moeaki :drool:

All of them did fuck all in the league but still, great times.

[Dan]

2011 was pretty bad. Cam at #1 did alright for himself, but then you have the Blaine Train, Christian Ponder & Jake Locker all going in the top 16 of a draft where every other player picked in the top 16 aside from Nick Fairley was a pro bowler, and most of them were elite guys like Von Miller, JJ Watt, Tyron Smith, AJ Green & Julio Jones.

EDIT: Skipping forward though, I'm going to throw out an early claim on the RB Karan Higdon from Michigan. I keep watching teams playing them to look at other guys for this draft & he always ends up having three or four big plays in each one.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

987013159696379906

Times/dates official now.

Think I will skip the Spurs match tbh, not too keen on spending a few hours late at night on the M25.

[Dan]

Ravens have offered Willie Snead a 2yr $10.5m deal. The Saints have already re-signed Brandon Coleman so I doubt they’ll bother to match.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Not keen at all.

Probably the right move by us but it's a bit meh.

[Dan]

He’s fairly comparable to Crabtree, but I guess he’s more the slot version so there’s space for him. If he can get in shape & find his form again he’ll be a good chain mover, but it’s definitely more of a depth move than a quality one.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think it also further signifies that we'll take Jackson in the draft.

[Dan]

There’s plenty of depth at WR so you can definitely afford to wait - chances are you can get a solid starter in R4 if you don’t mind them being a bit of a specialist.

For all the shitting on Jackson that was going on around the combine when he didn’t run, scored 13 on the wonderlic & nobody could get a meeting with him it definitely seems like there’s been a late surge in first round hype for him. I initially thought he’d get round to the Cardinals in the second but they might end up having to him on day one now.

Do you reckon they’d be willing to tailor the offence to him though, considering they don’t even do it for Big Money Joe?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yes and I think the offence is more suited to him. They also want him to learn from Griffin too.

[Dan]

Is RG3 basically just going to tell him to not get hit all the time when he runs?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

This is how you don't do it...

[Foe]

Let's get some mock drafts up over the next day or two.

Most number of picks right (team and player, regardless if at the wrong position in the first round) wins a prize*

*not accurate.

[Foe]

Let's get some mock drafts up over the next day or two.

Most number of picks right (team and player, regardless if at the wrong position in the first round) wins a prize*

*not accurate.

Should also say I've jut spent a bit of time reminding myself how good Saquon Barkley is on YouTube. He's so fast and cutty, a bit like McCaffrey last year.

Would love to see him behind a decent OL. If he ends up a giant I might cry.

[Dan]

Let's get some mock drafts up over the next day or two.

Most number of picks right (team and player, regardless if at the wrong position in the first round) wins a prize*

*not accurate.

I’m trying to do a full one at the minute - got to about round 4 & then it’s all guys I haven’t watched but who are all probably completely interchangeable.

NFL website has predict the pick, which is a mock contest, so you can always just screen grab that.

[Gray Fox]

We should do round 1 here.

Every called pick is a point, every called trade is 5, something like that.

[Browning]

I would do it but after Barkley, Nelson, Ridley and about 4 QBs I'd have to put OJ Simpson as the next pick because I'll have run out of names.

[Dan]

No trade mock off the top of the head:

CLE - Sam Darnold
NYG - Saquon Barkley
NYJ - Baker Mayfield
CLE - Bradley Chubb
DEN - Josh Rosen
IND - Quenton Nelson
TB - Derwin James
CHI - Denzel Ward
SF - Tremaine Edmunds
OAK - Roquan Smith
MIA - Minkah Fitzpatrick
BUF - Josh Allen
WAS - Vita Vea
GB - Harold Landry
ARI - Lamar Jackson
BAL - Calvin Ridley
LAC - Mike McGlinchey
SEA - Joshua Jackson
DAL - Courtland Sutton
DET - Marcus Davenport
CIN - Isaiah Wynn
BUF - James Daniels
NE - Connor Williams
CAR - Jaire Alexander
TEN - Sam Hubbard
ATL - Taven Bryan
NO - Mike Gesicki
PIT - Rashaan Evans
JAC - Leighton Vander Esch
MIN - Billy Price
NE - Isaiah Oliver
PHI - Justin Reid

With trades is more fun. At the very least I’d have Buffalo going up for a QB while the Saints & Eagles trade out of the first round.

[Dan]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/american-football/43873812

I didn’t realise they rolled out all the gimmicks on day three.

[Browning]

There’s a day 3?

Fuck that. Each team should have two minutes to make a selection and get it wrapped up in one night.

[Pleb]

So who is going to trade up and take our number 3 pick in the first round? :sherlock:

[Dan]

Draft kicks off at 1am tonight, right?

Here's a quick list of my personal favourites outside of the bigger names, all of which I have as day one or two players:
DaeSean Hamilton, WR Penn State
Anthony Miller, WR Memphis
Justin Reid, S Stanford
Kyzir White, S West Virginia
Billy Price, OL Ohio State
Duke Ejiofor, DE Wake Forest
Jaire Alexander, CB Louisville
Deon Cain, WR Clemson
Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, EDGE Oklahoma
Jessie Bates, S Wake Forest
Nick Chubb, RB Georgia
MJ Stewart, CB North Carolina

And here's a quick top 20 list put together from a few expert lists:

1. Bradley Chubb, DE NC State
2. Saquon Barkley, RB Penn State
3. Quenton Nelson, G Notre Dame
4. Derwin James, S Florida State
5. Roquan Smith, LB Georgia
6. Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB Alabama
7. Denzel Ward, CB Ohio State
8. Tremaine Edmunds, LB Virginia Tech
9. Sam Darnold, QB USC
10. Josh Rosen, QB UCLA
11. Vita Vea, DT Washington
12. Joshua Jackson, CB Iowa
13. Derrius Guice, RB LSU
14. Baker Mayfield, QB Oklahoma
15. Calvin Ridley, WR Alabama
16. Courtland Sutton, WR SMU
17. Isaiah Wynn, OL Georgia
18. Connor Williams, OT Texas
19. Maurice Hurst, DL Michigan
20. Will Hernandez, G UTEP

[Foe]

No trade mock:

CLE - Sam Darnold
NYG - Josh Rosen (:moop:)
NYJ - Baker Mayfield
CLE - Saquon Barkley
DEN - Quenton Nelson
IND - Tremaine Edmunds
TB - Bradley Chubb
CHI - Roquan Smith
SF - Vita Vea
OAK - Derwin James
MIA - Da'ron Payne
BUF - Josh Allen
WAS - Denzel Ward
GB - Calvin Ridley
ARI - Will Hernandez
BAL - Minkah Fitzpatrick
LAC - Leighton Vander Esch
SEA - Taven Bryan
DAL - Harold Landry
DET - Derius Guice
CIN - Isaiah Wynn
BUF - James Daniels
NE - Lamar Jackson
CAR - Josh Jackson
TEN - Rashan Evans
ATL - Marcus Davenport
NO - Mike Gesicki
PIT - Justin Reid
JAC - Orlando Brown
MIN - Carlton Davis
NE - Mike Mcglinchy
PHI - Dallas Goedert

Never going to happen.

With trades is fun, without listing the whole lot I'd shove Bills taking Clevelands number 4 to take Josh Allen and Rosen landing at Miami.

I just can't see Denver taking a QB. Would also not be surprised if NY Giants traded away number 2 if the QB they want is gone, their team is so bad.

This draft is so good because the top 7 is so interchangeable - Barkley, Chubb, Nelson + 4 QBs. I'm really excited.

Day 1 is on Sky sports tonight, day 2 is live tomorrow night, and (most of) rounds 4-7 live on Saturday. What a weekend :drool:

[Browning]

Mayfield to Cleveland is picking up steam. The Saints also seemingly want to trade up to the teens for a QB.

[Dan]

They’ve been on everyone except Rosen in the last week so I guess we’ll just have to wait & see. As for the Saints, I’d rather we traded back but if we go up for Jackson (most likely) or one of the top four it would at least be interesting - Jackson in particular could be fun alongside Kamara in a Sean Payton offence.

Anyway, I’m off to watch the Avengers. Don’t spoil the pick if it leaks this evening.

[Foe]

Mayfield to Cleveland is picking up steam. The Saints also seemingly want to trade up to the teens for a QB.

There's so many teams that could move up...

Arizona, Buffalo, New Orleans, San Diego (Rosen?) and even Pitt / New Eng could do if they love a guy (doubt it, given their history).

[John]

No trade mock:

CLE - Sam Darnold
NYG - Saquon Barkley
NYJ - Baker Mayfield
CLE - Saquan Barkley
DEN - Quenton Nelson
IND - Tremaine Edmunds
TB - Bradley Chubb
CHI - Roquan Smith
SF - Vita Vea
OAK - Derwin James
MIA - Da'ron Payne
BUF - Josh Allen
WAS - Denzel Ward
GB - Calvin Ridley
ARI - Will Hernandez
BAL - Minkah Fitzpatrick
LAC - Leighton Vander Esch
SEA - Taven Bryan
DAL - Harold Landry
DET - Derius Guice
CIN - Isaiah Wynn
BUF - James Daniels
NE - Lamar Jackson
CAR - Josh Jackson
TEN - Rashan Evans
ATL - Marcus Davenport
NO - Mike Gesicki
PIT - Justin Reid
JAC - Orlando Brown
MIN - Carlton Davis
NE - Mike Mcglinchy
PHI - Dallas Goedert

Never going to happen.

I imagine not, if only because as good as he looks Saquon can't play for New York and Cleveland at the same time.

How do you get his name wrong two lines after getting it right, by the way? :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We could too, if we fear that Lamar Jackson wont be there at 16.

I'll be STUNNED if we don't pick him should he be available.

[Foe]

I imagine not, if only because as good as he looks Saquon can't play for New York and Cleveland at the same time.

How do you get his name wrong two lines after getting it right, by the way? :D

Tried to save time and just copy Dan's effort and add my names in. Went well, clearly. :moop:

I'll edit it to match my effort on nfl.com.

Rosen @ 2.

[Pleb]

Completely forgot the draft is on tonight #Inb4Clevelandtakesourpick

[Ian]

Waking up and just reading the results after a good night's sleep. :drool:

[Giggles]

I remember the days I used to take holidays just to watch all of this. Apart from the Packers picks that end up in the final 53, not a single fuck these days. I don't think I've even seen any of the QB's throw a pass apart from that absolute tosser from Oklahoma.

[Gray Fox]

My entertainment is seeing how the Browns fuck up from pick #1 and #4 in this draft. Also after the shit whichever Dallas legend came out with infront of all the Philly fans last year, it'll be great to see someone from our side come out and parade the trophy in front of all the Dallas fans.

[Dan]

Gotta love having Josh Allen on the red carpet talking about some racist tweets he sent six years ago. Not quite the Tunsil Gas Masks, but I look forward to the Mahow team name nonetheless.

Look at that suit on Minkah :cool: Shame the reporter keeps trying to jam her mic down his Dad's throat though. Also got destroyed by Denzel Ward's shoes. Lamar Jackson going full Cam Newton must mean there's a dedicated 'Black Running QB' stylist out there. He sounds like he'd score a 13 on the Wonderlic, to be fair.

This red carpet shit is awful, but it's stopping me from hunting out draft spoilers, so I'm going to have to sit through it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I have a feeling that the Browns will take Mayfield which would be the worst choice they could make.

[Dan]

I would take Rosen out of the QBs, but I'd be happy with any of him, Baker or Darnold, and I think Darnold will end up being the pick. Allen & Jackson both have enormous potential, but they're also much bigger risks, and I'm not sure you can swing & miss that hard again if you're the Browns.

This guy must be paid by the second for the anthem.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Trying way too hard with the anthem.

Settle down mate.

[Gray Fox]

I think #1 is Darnold. Mayfield to the Jets.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

A little surprised that the Broncos are thinking of going up to 2.

I thought the Bills would do it.

[Dan]

Broncos trying to trade up to miss on another QB? :drool:

Also, there was talk of teams finding medical issues with Sony Michel (knee) & Leighton Vander Esch (neck), so it'll be interesting to see if they go tonight or not. Same for Maurice Hurst with his heart issue.

[Pleb]

I'm surprised no one is touching our 3rd pick :sherlock:

[Dan]

Why would you trade up just to trade that pick away?

[Pleb]

It's the NFL draft because DRAMA

[Dan]

Holy shit TEN MINUTES per selection? I thought it was five. No wonder the first round is on its own day.

[Pleb]

Here comes the boos :drool:

[Dan]

Even a Cowboys entourage can't safe Goodell from getting booed to shit :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Holy shit TEN MINUTES per selection? I thought it was five. No wonder the first round is on its own day.

I hate that number 1 gets 10 minutes too.

[Pleb]

The Browns have probably fucked up this pick by taking Mayfield.

If that's the case we're getting Darnold.

Amazing :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Such a Browns pick :D

They've fucked this.

[Dan]

Well there you go. I hope he dick grabs the crowd.

Don't bet against Baker. He'll fucking remember, he'll prove you wrong, and he'll find you to remind you that you doubted him.

[Pleb]

Fuck me he looks fucking garbage :D

[Dan]

Darnold 2, Rosen 3, Chubb 4, Allen 5, Barkley 6.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I wonder how long their losing seasons streak will last.

Darnold was the correct pick and I think that's why Giants are going to trade down.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Okay.

I thought they'd take Darnold but that's the correct pick.

Browns have fucked this hard.

[Dan]

Barkley & OBJ on the same field will be disgusting.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mayfield would have been there at 4 so they've had a real fucking nightmare.

[Pleb]

We're taking Darnold or Allen.

[Dan]

The Jets must be cumming hard right now.

[Pleb]

Our first five matches this season is fucking disgusting:

Lions (H)
Dolphins (A)
Browns (H)
Jags (H)
Broncos (A)

:drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That worked out so well for the Jets.

[Dan]

Josh Rosen is quietly seething at his table.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Those fumbles on that tape are disgusting though.

[Dan]

Those fumbles on that tape are disgusting though.

He has loads more just like it - 21 turnovers in 24 games, I think is the stat.

EDIT: Maybe it's not. Something mad like that though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The correct pick here is Chubb.

[Dan]

It is, although it depends if the Bills offer them a billion picks or not.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He has loads more just like it - 21 turnovers in 24 games, I think is the stat.

EDIT: Maybe it's not. Something mad like that though.

The way he was just leaving it out there for anyone to just poke out :sick:

They need to fix that desperately and it shouldn't be hard.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jesus fuck.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Chubb and Garrett would have been fucking mental.

[Pleb]

Browns :D

Your killing me here lads, calm the fuck down.

[Dan]

Cleveland throwing all the curveballs tonight :drool:

Chubb to the Colts at 6 must be on now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If they liked Ward so much they could have taken a boatload from the Bills.

[Dan]

The way he was just leaving it out there for anyone to just poke out :sick:

They need to fix that desperately and it shouldn't be hard.

I remember seeing Wentz doing the same thing on Gruden's QB Camp, so I'm sure they can get it sorted in a season if they really want. He'll be the blandest of the top QBs in this class, but should be a pretty safe bet to be at least an Andy Dalton level guy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Broncos have done well too. They didn't have to trade up and they're getting their second QB.

[Dan]

If they liked Ward so much they could have taken a boatload from the Bills.

Denver were mad for him, apparently, so he might've gone at 5. I guess Cleveland were mad about him too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Denver were mad for him, apparently, so he might've gone at 5. I guess Cleveland were mad about him too.

Fair play, I thought he'd still be there at 12.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What a voice on the kid.

Chubb and Miller is fucking mental.

[Pleb]

Holy fuck :D

[Dan]

$180k seems like a pretty low donation for all the money the NFL has.

Chubb & Miller on the same defence should be terrifying.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and if Nelson is there at 16...

Please Ozzie, don't take Jackson.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We play Broncos on week 3 :uhoh:

[Dan]

Colts wasting no time with their pick. Must be a QB :nodd:

EDIT: Phillip Dorsett was a first round pick? Jesus.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well they needed to actually draft someone finally that could protect Luck.

[Dan]

WATCH THESE HIGHLIGHTS :drool:

[Pleb]

He's a fucking monster.

[Dan]

I'm sure there's a gif somewhere of him basically chokeslamming an LSU lineman last season, but I can't find it. He's vicious as fuck, but he's also really good technically.

[Dan]

Bucs have to take Derwin or Minkah here, probably Minkah.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bills, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

[Pleb]

Bills have jumped up.

They want a Josh.

[Dan]

Here we go :drool:

I bet it's Allen.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm sure there's a gif somewhere of him basically chokeslamming an LSU lineman last season, but I can't find it. He's vicious as fuck, but he's also really good technically.

http://dabearsbros.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Nelson4.gif

Not what you wanted but that's my favourite block of his. It's just so smart.

[Pleb]

What a fucking steal.

[Dan]

Yeah, there we go. Imagine if they'd not picked a QB though.

[Dan]

That first throw on the Allen tape is fucking unreal every time i see it. Shame you can counter it with the gif of him completely missing the net in Senior Bowl passing drills.

[Dan]

Someone's going to try to trade up in front of Miami for Rosen, and any of these three picks could be bought pretty easily I'd imagine.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bills have done fairly well considering they keep their other first rounder.

[Dan]

This should be a linebacker (Edmunds or Roquan, but maybe it's Joshua Jackson)

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Correct pick there from the Bears.

[Dan]

49ers have a choice between Tremaine Edmunds, Derwin James, Minkah Fitzpatrick or a trade. That's a pretty nice spot to be in.

I'll be amazed if nobody moves up in the next two picks, but Josh Rosen to Miami could be nice. He'll be determined to kick the shit out of Darnold & Allen twice a year too, but the prospect of a division with three rookies & Tom Brady is pretty lol.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Rosen looks like he wants to cry :D

[Dan]

That was the sleeper pick, but I didn't think they'd actually do it. I thought they'd forgotten that they could use first round picks on offence.

Notre Dame O-Lineman dominating the draft so far.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

49ers need that especially as Staley probably only has a year or two left.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Rosen's wait is over then.

[Dan]

Cardinals to take Lamar Jackson over Rosen here.

[Dan]

Rosen is the best QB in the class when you just look at pocket passing & it's not even close. He just has an injury history & I don't think he's great at feeling back side pressure, which can cause him to cough up a few fumbles.

He could be Brady/Peyton levels of good though.

[Pleb]

Rosen must be seething that he isn't a top 5 drafted QB.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That is a powerful nose.

[Dan]

I think he might be Jewish.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think he might be Jewish.

With that name and the nose? Of course he is.

[Dan]

Minkah & Reshad Jones should be a hell of a safety duo. They might even be able to cover Gronk now.

[Dan]

Bucs have done well from this - Derwin & Tremaine Edmunds are both still there. I'd chuck in Vita Vea & Harold Landry as the next few guys on the board.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Look at Vita Vea :cool:

What a man he is.

[Gray Fox]

I do love these curveballs. Getting twitchy yet Mahow?

[Dan]

Well I guess we're not running on Tampa anymore. JPP/Vea/McCoy/Curry is a filthy run defence line.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I do love these curveballs. Getting twitchy yet Mahow?

Nope.

It's going to be Jackson unfortunately. I'd rather a WR though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Took him about 30 seconds to say his full name.

[Dan]

Vita looks like an Uso. He's not exactly the most comfortable in front of a camera though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Those running back clips :D

It looks like an adult playing against 10 year olds.

[Dan]

Derwin here, surely? Maybe Da'Ron Payne.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I really hate that Mayock reads those side notes on players almost entirely word for fucking word.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Saints want to take Jackson here? :yn:

[Dan]

They probably wanted Vea, but Payne could be a beast if he can be more consistent - his best games were Aaron Donald-esque.

[Gray Fox]

Saints trading up. Who are they eyeing?

[Dan]

I really hate that Mayock reads those side notes on players almost entirely word for fucking word.

I've always hated that :D

[Dan]

Saints trading up. Who are they eyeing?

I don't like this. It's going to be Lamar Jackson.

It could work out, and Payton is probably one of the best coaches to get something out of him, but we already have a shortage of picks so I hope we've not chucked away anything too valuable.

[Gray Fox]

Saints are giving up next years first rounder for this pick.

Has to be Lemar surely.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's a huge amount.

Enjoy Lamar, Dan :harold:

[Dan]

GOD I HOPE IT'S HAROLD LANDRY!

Please tell me we haven't actually given up a 2019 first :uhoh:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

FUCK, FUCK, FUCK.

We're taking Jackson :(

[Gray Fox]

Marcus Davenport.

Mahow gets even more twitchy :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ridley, James, Edmunds or Jackson.

Ozzie is going to pick the worst option of the 4 :(

[Dan]

WOW.

That's a fuckload of capital to give up, but if it pays off it's the thing we need most. I'd have taken Landry over him though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We've traded down \0/.

I like it.

Fuck Lamar Jackson.

[Dan]

Man I love the Raiders :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm a little surprised by that as I thought they'd snap Jackson up if he was there.

Still could have Edmunds, James or Ridley there at 22.

[Dan]

I'm not even going to bother mentioning Edmunds, Derwin or Landry anymore.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Look how big he is for a linebacker.

He looks like he could batter any TE.

[Dan]

Yeah, that's the right pick. He's made in a lab.

He needs to get better at reading the game, but then he's 19 and he's a freak, so I can live with that.

[Gray Fox]

Him v Gronk :p

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Shame we didn't take him as he looks like he could be nasty. Him and Mosley would have been lights out.

Gronk could have trouble against him.

[Dan]

Josh Allen & Tremaine Edmunds is the monster upside, physical freak draft strategy by Buffalo.

[Dan]

The Chargers must be loving this.

[Dan]

Derwin at last. That team is a serious AFC dark horse next season.

Green Bay coming back up here. They have a billion day three picks, so I'd imagine they've given up some of those for Harold Landry, Rashaan Evans or Joshua Jackson.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lamar Jackson?

[Dan]

I love me some Jaire :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Please reach for someone Dallas.

I want the fans to go mental.

[Dan]

Dez tweeting out his Cowboy picks :D

[Dan]

Please reach for someone Dallas.

I want the fans to go mental.

Lamar :nodd:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lamar :nodd:

That would be absolutely glorious.

[Dan]

Why did they get noted Eagle fan Connie Fox to come on the stage with the Cowboys?

You'd imagine they know something if they're hyping up a WR pick before it's even finalised.

EDIT: I do wonder what the fuck Steve Smith is on about half the time, and I imagine he wonders the same thing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Why did they get noted Eagle fan Connie Fox to come on the stage with the Cowboys?

You'd imagine they know something if they're hyping up a WR pick before it's even finalised.
Imagine the seethe if it's not a WR.

[Gray Fox]

I hope this isn't a receiver, just for the seethe.

[Dan]

According to Matt Miller at least five teams have red flagged Vander Esch for his neck, but then I suppose the Cowboys did take Jaylon Smith when he had one leg, so of course they're fine with a linebacker with a fucked up neck.

[Gray Fox]

Steelers just traded Martavis Bryant for the Raiders 3rd round pick.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Heh.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

His hometown has a population of just 400-odd.

He probably knows everyone and they're all at that party.

[Dan]

With the amount of times LVE tackles with his shoulder it's only a matter of time before he's on the shelf.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riggins,_Idaho

Riggins was named for Richard L. Riggins, local businessman and postmaster.[6] Riggins was also named for Richard L. Riggins' father, Fred Riggins, who carried the mail to the area for years.

Named after postmen, amazing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

D.J. Moore, Calvin Ridley or Lamar Jackson for us then.

[Dan]

That's a surprising one, but PFF will love it.

Bengals will take a lineman, but I have no idea which one since they basically need them all.

[Gray Fox]

Ravens back on the clock :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Troubled-ExNFL-Star-Greg-Hardy-to-Make-Pro-MMA-Debut-on-Dana-Whites-Contender-Series-135425

Greg Hardy is going to make his pro MMA debut on The Contender thing so could earn a UFC contract.

I'm sure he'd prefer to face a woman but he will be fighting a man.

[Dan]

That's the best one. He's got an injury from the bench press at the combine, but it sounds like he'll be fine pretty quickly & he'll be an immediate starter.

[Dan]

Look who's still on the board...

Ravens are desperately trying not to have to pick anyone. I think this will be Harold Landry, but Rashaan Evans is the other option.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Traded down again.

WE DON'T WANT YOU JACKSON.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We just don't want to pick out of three so are trying to let someone take at least one of our options off the board.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Patriots better take Jackson.

[Dan]

I'm so sad that we traded a 2019 first to get up to 14 for Davenport when we could have traded up four picks at most & got Landry.

[Dan]

Sam Hubbard & Lamar Jackson for the Patriots. They do love to trade back though...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Did Mayock just suggest that NE pick Mike Evans here?

I'm not sure that's how it works, Mike.

[Gray Fox]

They'd find a way to "bend the rules."

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Wankers.

[Dan]

Nice pick - he's better than Kolton Miller.

Panthers just need everything so I have no idea where they'll go. Probably Harold fucking Landry to make me extra sad.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Booo.

I was hoping we'd get D.J.

[Dan]

Your guy is still there.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think Steve Smith is on the money there.

Fuck Lamar Jackson.

[Gray Fox]

Can't pass up on Lemar this many times!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Pick is in.

Please be Ridley or even a TE :yn:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Whoop.

I'm good with that. We NEEDED a TE and apparently the TE class isn't all that deep.

[Gray Fox]

Oh boooo. Look at poor Lemar sat there in the green room. Heartless bastards.

[Dan]

Gotta love spending a first round pick on a 25 year old TE who couldn't handle the pressure in baseball :harold:

But yeah, he'll be a good player.

[Dan]

This should be Taven Bryan going by all the chatter.

[Gray Fox]

Apparently we're looking at shopping our #32 pick to anyone who wants in from the 2nd round to take Jackson. So screw it, I'm off to bed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ridley's face :D

[Dan]

That's their Julio Jones replacement sorted then. Not keen on having to cover him & Julio.

[Dan]

Our original pick is up & Harold Landry's still on the board :(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Our original pick is up & Harold Landry's still on the board :(

And you wouldn't have had to lose next years first rounder...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

A rare first rare pick for Seahawks. They last got one in 2016 and prior to that it was 2012.

[Dan]

Well I did not see that one coming AT ALL.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I was hoping they'd bring back Eddie Lacy who must be about 400 pounds right now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jesus, Shazier is not going to play again is he?

[Dan]

This would have been more special if Rich Eisen hadn't spent the last ten minutes hyping it up, but fuck me Ryan Shazier is a dude. To be back where he is now already is hugely impressive.

The Seahawks pick was a surprise and yet it's immediately been blown out of the water by the Steelers taking Terrell Edmunds.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Blolrtles lives on.

[Dan]

Interesting pick from the Jags. I guess they're preparing for the time when they have to start shifting some cap room from that defensive line.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Did they need another defensive lineman?

[Dan]

They're going to have to cut Calais next season, I'd imagine, so it's worth getting a replacement sorted now.

[Dan]

Nice pick from the Vikings. They need a corner, and Hughes can take over as their new kick returner as well.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Xavier Rhodes, Trae Waynes and Hughes. Woof.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That has stunned me.

[Dan]

Chuck another running back into the Patriots committee!

The draft is great - you can never tell what's going to happen, no matter how much you think you know.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hello

Loomar Jackson here.

[Dan]

BALTIMORE ARE BACK!! :D

I'm sorry, 'how.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Loomar Jackson to replace Flacco next year then.

[Dan]

You better not try to fit him in to the current scheme. He's a hell of a talent, and he's actually a decent thrower, so you could have a hell of an offence if you get some actual WRs.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I like it more that we traded around and got him at 32 (plus a TE) rather than 16.

He'll sit a year then goodbye Joe.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Steve Smith has been on the money tonight.

That's not necessarily an Ozzie pick but a DeCosta pick.

[Dan]

Guice, Hurst, Landry & quite a few other studs sitting on the board tomorrow :drool:

[Ian]

What're your thoughts on Chubb then, chaps? He has a good beefy name for a defensive player so that's a solid start as far as I'm concerned.

[Dan]

He's not flashy, but he's really good - strong against the run, good with his hands & has a great motor. He should be a really nice compliment to Von Miller.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Von Miller said 'he's like me plus Khalil Mack'

[Foe]

Some really safe picks made last night I feel. Colts grabbing a guard was a no brainier and Barkley at 2 makes a good amount of sense if he's half as good in the NFL as he was in college.

Highlight for me was seeing how pissed Josh Rosen was at going number 10. :D

Interesting thought that the Browns walked with mayfield and ward whilst the bills have Allen and Edmunds. Pretty solid gamble by the browns so for the sake of competition really hope it works out.

[Dan]

If the Giants pick Harold Landry tonight after taking Barkley yesterday I might be a secret Giants fans.

Best 5 picks of round one:
1. Derwin James to the Chargers
2. Bradley Chubb to the Broncos
3. Jaire Alexander to the Packers
4. Calvin Ridley to the Falcons
5. Tremaine Edmunds to the Bills

Worst 5 picks of round one:
1. Terrell Edmunds to the Steelers
2. Rashaad Penny to the Seahawks
3. Kolton Miller to the Raiders
4. Marcus Davenport to the Saints
5. Sony Michel to the Patriots

The top three on both lists are pretty clear, and then it was hard to choose from a handful of others for the last two spots. Most picks were really solid, even if a few caught us off guard.

EDIT: The more I think about the Steelers' pick the more I see some redeeming qualities in it. They need a linebacker & the best four had already gone, so considering there's a pretty hefty drop off to the next lot it's possible that they're going to try & see if Terrell can do the same job as his brother. Still a reach though.

[Giggles]

Is tonight starting late too? I remember the old draft format used to have later rounds on early enough.

[Foe]

Coverage starts at 11.15pm or something on sky sports.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000929371/article/niners-trade-ot-trent-brown-to-new-england-patriots

Trent Brown has been traded to the Pats.

Also Cutler and Witten are retiring.

[John]

I have a mate who's big on the Falcons and he's going fucking tonto over them getting Ridley. He could not be happier.

[Dan]

He should be, he's the best route runner in the class, he's got good deep speed & his presence will make it harder for teams to focus on Julio. He should be an immediate upgrade on Taylor Gabriel & Mo Sanu, and this will be the first time he's had an actual QB throwing him the ball, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's in the running for offensive rookie of the year.

[Ian]

Von Miller said 'he's like me plus Khalil Mack'

Yeah but Von Miller is a talented idiot.

Still, if he's gonna be good I'll be happy. Not sure the D was our biggest need but if he's ace and was the best player available I'll live with it.

[Giggles]

He should be, he's the best route runner in the class, he's got good deep speed & his presence will make it harder for teams to focus on Julio. He should be an immediate upgrade on Taylor Gabriel & Mo Sanu, and this will be the first time he's had an actual QB throwing him the ball, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's in the running for offensive rookie of the year.

He could just as easily be out of the league or on his 4th team in three years time. A lot of these are a complete toss-up.

[Foe]

He should be, he's the best route runner in the class, he's got good deep speed & his presence will make it harder for teams to focus on Julio. He should be an immediate upgrade on Taylor Gabriel & Mo Sanu, and this will be the first time he's had an actual QB throwing him the ball, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's in the running for offensive rookie of the year.

Hey! He had one half of Tua Tuagvilolo (impossible to spell)! ;)

[Dan]

He could just as easily be out of the league or on his 4th team in three years time. A lot of these are a complete toss-up.

They're all a complete toss-up, but he's got the skill set to be a consistently productive player, and even if he's never a dominant WR1 I would expect him to have a good career.

[Gray Fox]

Someone let me know when the Eagles actually pick someone.

[Giggles]

The more I read about Mayfield the more I hope he's a massive failure. Just a huge wanker.

[Giggles]

Did Jerry Jones pay for this advertisement of Texas?

[Dan]

I do find odd to hear everyone saying before the draft that the Browns had to take their QB at #1, then complaining afterwards that they should've waited til #4 to take Mayfield.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The more I read about Mayfield the more I hope he's a massive failure. Just a huge wanker.

https://pistolsfiringblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Screen-Shot-2017-05-11-at-8.07.45-AM-810x435.png

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I do find odd to hear everyone saying before the draft that the Browns had to take their QB at #1, then complaining afterwards that they should've waited til #4 to take Mayfield.

Because they didn't think they'd go full retard and pick Mayfield.

[Dan]

The reaction to that pick :D

Looks like the surprises are going to continue tonight. Will Hernandez to the Giants is a great pick though - he's almost as nasty as Quenton Nelson.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Browns are amazing.

Giants must be drooling, he looks mean as fuck.

[Dan]

How many people had Mayfield, Ward, Corbett & Nick Chubb as the first four picks from the Browns?

[Browning]

What has Guice done to have to watch so many RBs go ahead of him?

[Dan]

Apparently he gave three different accounts of that story about people asking him dodgy questions at the combine, so that's probably done him in.

Landry apparently had a couple of injuries flagged, so that on top of the ankle from last season might explain him still being here.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's how you do it.

Just announce both picks, no fucking about with time.

[Dan]

Wow, the surprises definitely keep on coming. I had them both as low third round grades who could go late round two, but clearly everything has just gone out the window.

Nelson/Kelly/Smith is a pretty tasty interior offensive line though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Guice must be seething.

[Dan]

RoJo should be a nice add, especially as they've just re-signed Charles Sims who can actually catch a pass.

[Dan]

Guice must be seething.

I can't wait for the at home cam of Guice just playing Fortnite & not giving a fuck anymore.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I love the 'Who?' reactions.

[Dan]

James Daniels is a nice pick for the Bears. Not sure whether it'll be him or Whitehair at C, but the other one should be a decent enough guard. We're getting plenty of focus on the O-Line so far, especially the inside guys.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Those 2 one handed catches they showed there are filthy.