The NFL Thread

[Gray Fox]

Browns could act now and get Cousins. They can then go and take Barkley/best player at #1 and #4. Cousins might do it too as his options are fast disappearing.

There's only really the Broncos or Jets that could take him on that I can think of.

[Dan]

Browns were in for Smith, but couldn’t get the deal done as they wouldn’t give him as much money as Washington.

As for Cousins, he’s the best QB to hit free agency in years so he’ll probably be able to name his price. He’s already been talking about being willing to take less money to go to a place he can win though, so I’d imagine Cleveland might not be his preferred choice even if they give him a blank cheque.

I’d have Denver as the front runners, with the Jets & Browns being in the mix. Don’t be surprised if Minnesota, Buffalo, Arizona or Jacksonville take a look at him too, although they’d probably have to clear some space to pay him.

[McAvennie]

If he genuinely wants to win now then you can take buffalo Arizona jets and Browns off that list.
jacksonville is an intriguing alternative to Denver

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000913592/article/ravens-gm-ozzie-newsome-to-step-down-after-2018

Newsome is stepping down after the 2018 season.

I think we've pushed him a little towards that decision. The team is so high on DeCosta and I think this is a move to stop him from leaving as he's been courted every year since 2013 or 14 now. He turned down the Packers this season which, by the sounds of it, the owner Bisciotti thought he would take.

Newsome has done a great job but it's also good that he's basically groomed his replacement, makes the whole thing a little less worrying.

[Gray Fox]

T.O. has finally been inducted into the HOF. Moss, Lewis and Dawkins have joined him so far.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Kamara OROTY, Lattimore DROTY, Gurley OPOY, Keenan Allen comeback player of the year, Sean McVay coach of the year.

Urlacher has also 'gone to Canton'.

[Giggles]

Brady MVP :cool:

[Giggles]

https://youtu.be/3tUCuMSPQwE

[Dan]

Colts LB Edwin Jackson & another person were killed earlier today after getting hit by a truck driven by a drunk & unlicensed driver. (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000914139/article/edwin-jackson-dies-after-being-hit-by-suspected-drunken-driver)

[Ian]

Fucking hell, that sucks.

[John]

Probably not orders of magnitude more force in that collision than he was used to in his job, so he must have been a loser anyway.

[McAvennie]

Have to eat my words about the Eagles, I thought they wouldn't win a single playoff game without Wentz, but they were terrific and Foles did an amazing job

[Foe]

That was an absolutely great game.

Nice to see a new winner. Nick Foles must look pretty nifty as trade bait now.

[Dan]

Gronk's thinking about whether he wants to come back next season or not. Must've really enjoyed himself at WrestleMania last year.

Oh, and in news that everyone's known for a month, Matt Patricia is the new head coach of the Lions. Sounds like there might be a bit of a wobble from Josh McDaniels, but he'll almost certainly still end up taking over in Indy.

[Foe]

That was an absolutely great game.

Nice to see a new winner. Nick Foles must look pretty nifty as trade bait now.

Been thinking about this today and actually i don't think it has any legs. Why would any team trade for Foles when there's loads of talent in free agency and it's considered a deep draft. Foles will probably spend the year sitting about Philly being touted as potential trade bait before ultimately hitting free agency and ending up somewhere like Buffalo or LA chargers.

[Pleb]

Wentz is due back for the start of next season apparently according to nfl.com.

I would imagine Foles would probably demand a trade if Wentz comes back.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Been thinking about this today and actually i don't think it has any legs. Why would any team trade for Foles when there's loads of talent in free agency and it's considered a deep draft. Foles will probably spend the year sitting about Philly being touted as potential trade bait before ultimately hitting free agency and ending up somewhere like Buffalo or LA chargers.

Yeah, who would want a current SB MVP that carved up the Patriots?

[Foe]

Yeah, who would want a current SB MVP that carved up the Patriots?

Compensation wise though, they'd demand a pretty hefty fee and given Wentz was injured last year I doubt they'd want to move him on. It's a Garapollo situation all over, only without the power struggle. Would be cool to see a trade to New Orleans with Chase Daniel going the other way and Brees stepping away from the game. Unlikely though, as Brees showed this year he's still got it.

The NE Patriots had the 30th ranked pass defence this year. 30th. They were 20th against the run too. The NE defence this year was a myth.

Just going to throw the name Malcolm Smith in there for good measure.

[Giggles]

Dunno if this was posted yet.

http://www.nola.com/living/index.ssf/2018/02/jackie_wallace_ted_jackson.html

[Giggles]

Butler was apparently caught with dope and missed a curfew.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Compensation wise though, they'd demand a pretty hefty fee and given Wentz was injured last year I doubt they'd want to move him on. It's a Garapollo situation all over, only without the power struggle. Would be cool to see a trade to New Orleans with Chase Daniel going the other way and Brees stepping away from the game. Unlikely though, as Brees showed this year he's still got it.

The NE Patriots had the 30th ranked pass defence this year. 30th. They were 20th against the run too. The NE defence this year was a myth.

Just going to throw the name Malcolm Smith in there for good measure.

The Patriots could have the worst statistical defence ever, it's still a Super Bowl and you expect them to turn up.

I can see the Bills doing it. They've got a lot of picks this year and have wanted to move on from Taylor for 2 seasons now.

Browns have a LOAD of picks this year so they could trade for him but I think they'll make a play for Cousins (wrong decision) or draft a QB with one of their high first round picks.

[Dan]

Yeah, who would want a current SB MVP that carved up the Patriots?

That's like saying Matt Flynn was a stud QB because he threw 6 TDs in a game once.

Foles has a shot as a starter if you can create a scheme for him, as has been the case this season & in the other good one he had that everyone knows the stats for at this point, and the number of teams who need a QB is high enough that someone might take a look at him, but when you match up the options & the teams he's likely going to end up with a best case scenario of being a bridge guy or someone sitting behind an old QB that's likely to retire in a year or two, with a view to becoming a bridge guy at that point.

I'd have him slotting in just after the Bridgewater/Keenum/Bradford group in the list, possibly ahead of Bradford just because of health.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah but Foles has also shown his quality at other times (first season with Chip Kelly) and his only bad season was under Jeff 'QB killer' Fisher.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm also not saying it's a good thing to trade for him due to the SB but there have been worse decisions made in the league.

[Foe]

That's like saying Matt Flynn was a stud QB because he threw 6 TDs in a game once.

Foles has a shot as a starter if you can create a scheme for him, as has been the case this season & in the other good one he had that everyone knows the stats for at this point, and the number of teams who need a QB is high enough that someone might take a look at him, but when you match up the options & the teams he's likely going to end up with a best case scenario of being a bridge guy or someone sitting behind an old QB that's likely to retire in a year or two, with a view to becoming a bridge guy at that point.

I'd have him slotting in just after the Bridgewater/Keenum/Bradford group in the list, possibly ahead of Bradford just because of health.

Im really not sure Teddy will ever be an NFL starter again. I think he'll be a backup until proven that he's either completely fit and capable or more likely, too damaged to rely on.

I'd like Keenum to get a shot as a starter again. He's done it twice now at LA and Minnesota and didn't look bad either time. Someone like Washington could do a lot worse than give him a year or two deal on Tyrod/Dalton esque salary to see if he can get the job done.

[Foe]

Someone set up a 'guess the QB' game thread.

Let's predict who the 32 starting QBs will be next year week 1.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I hear that Jamarcus Russell is still wanting back in.

[Giggles]

I hear that Jamarcus Russell is still wanting back in.

Someone give Tim Couch a call too

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I was hoping Jared Lorenzen was still playing but apparently he broke his leg and then started eating even more cakes:

https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2017_32/1274252/jared-lorenzo-today-inline-170809_3f94d807db6a6a20a8d36057f3d1b1cf.today-inline-large2x.jpg

QB sneaks for days though.

[Dan]

Compensation wise though, they'd demand a pretty hefty fee and given Wentz was injured last year I doubt they'd want to move him on. It's a Garapollo situation all over, only without the power struggle. Would be cool to see a trade to New Orleans with Chase Daniel going the other way and Brees stepping away from the game. Unlikely though, as Brees showed this year he's still got it.

The NE Patriots had the 30th ranked pass defence this year. 30th. They were 20th against the run too. The NE defence this year was a myth.

Just going to throw the name Malcolm Smith in there for good measure.

If Alex Smith is worth a third & Kendall Fuller then Foles is going to go for a 4th at most. It's the polar opposite of the Garoppolo situation.

[Gray Fox]

I dont think Foles goes anywhere.

We have 90% of this team signed up for next season. I'd be trying to make back-to-back Superbowls. No point making this team weaker unless it's for a big price.

[Ian]

Foles will probably go because somebody will probably make a stupid offer for him.

[Dan]

Someone set up a 'guess the QB' game thread.

Let's predict who the 32 starting QBs will be next year week 1.

At the most, I think you're looking at these being the teams who could get a guy for right now.

Browns
Dolphins
Jets
Bills
Broncos
Jags
Vikings
Giants
Cardinals

You're then looking at the following options for plausible day one starters:

Kirk Cousins
Tyrod Taylor
Case Keenum
Teddy Bridgewater
Sam Bradford
Nick Foles
AJ McCarron
Sam Darnold
Josh Rosen
Baker Mayfield
Josh Allen
Lamar Jackson
Mason Rudolph

As well as the following wildcards, who could stay where they are or end up moving on if things fall a certain way:

Josh McCown
Brock Osweiler
Trevor Siemian
Ryan Tannehill
Jay Cutler
Jacoby Brissett

Even with all this demand, there are still way too many options available for teams to go crazy on someone that's just going to see them through a couple of years while they find their actual guy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Joe Flacco anyone? Please someone take him from us.

[Dan]

Im really not sure Teddy will ever be an NFL starter again. I think he'll be a backup until proven that he's either completely fit and capable or more likely, too damaged to rely on.

I'd like Keenum to get a shot as a starter again. He's done it twice now at LA and Minnesota and didn't look bad either time. Someone like Washington could do a lot worse than give him a year or two deal on Tyrod/Dalton esque salary to see if he can get the job done.

Washington who've just traded for Alex Smith, you mean? I'd like to see Keenum get another look in Minnesota, but if they let him go then he could be a nice short term fix for someone like Arizona or Buffalo if they want to get a young guy in the draft who'll need a season or two to develop.

[Dan]

Joe Flacco anyone? Please someone take him from us.

I very nearly put Baltimore & Cincinnati on the list, but I can't really see Dalton or Flacco being ousted this season, even if they do bring in young guys to replace them.

[Dan]

We've cut Nick Fairley as a non-football injury. Seemed pretty likely he was going to be let go & I wouldn't expect him to play again with his heart issue, but there are a load of grievances about how much we're meant to pay him, so it'll probably drag on for a while before the number gets settled.

Raiders have cut David Amerson too.

[Gray Fox]

Eagles are going to reject the invitation to the white house as a team.

I can't wait for Trump seethe on Twitter.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Great.

Loads skipped last year but Brady and Belichick were never going to pass on it.

[Gray Fox]

Also, how did I miss this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUoD-gPDahw

[Dan]

That was great, and there were teases with Eli on pretty much every break leading up to it, but I think this one was my favourite.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey01ZlAoYes

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Busta Rhymes/Peter Dinklage 'vs' Missy Elliot/Morgan Freeman.

What a world we live in.

I think had someone told me that Busta Rhymes died 2 years ago I would have believed them. I can't remember him doing anything or anyone even mentioning him in that time.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVwlK2aXlvc

What a tune that was back in the day btw. 13 fucking years ago now.

[Foe]

Dans donned me there with my Washington memory slip. :moop:

Same idea in Arizona and buffalo though, so you got my point.

The difference with Alex smith is he's on a massive salary already. Foles is under paid and edged to hit free agency in 12
Months.

[Giggles]

Matt Patricia is the new Lions head coach. He really needs to go back to this look now that he's landed there.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTqnxRvVMAAcK_9.jpg

[Ian]

That Eli advert ripping off He-Man and Skeletor. :nono:

[McAvennie]

Matt Patricia is the new Lions head coach. He really needs to go back to this look now that he's landed there.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTqnxRvVMAAcK_9.jpg

Nah, Pirate Matt is the look of coaching genius

[Giggles]

McDaniels to the Colts.

[Gray Fox]

We're giving Jon Dorenbos a ring, which is awesome.

For those who dont remember, he was our long snapper for 11 years. He was traded to the Saints just before the season started, only for his physical to show up an aortic aneurysm, could have dropped dead at any time so the trade saved his life.

[Dan]

McDaniels to the Colts.

Apparently not. Word is he’s rejecting the job now as Kraft has ‘sweetened the deal’. Maybe that means he’ll be taking over from Bill in 2019, but that seems like a bit of a Moyes situation so I’d probably rather take the Colts job & the come back after the first guy fails to live up to Belichick.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Maybe Luck is done.

The job looks shit if Luck has to sit for much longer.

[McAvennie]

its got to be that the pats have offered him the hc job to hang around, worried about losing two coordinators in an off season

And I agree, go coach the colts and then come back to the pats later once some poor Schmuck has gone 4-12 with them post belichek

[Dan]

Apparently the Colts anticipated this & has three candidates lined up already. Didn’t anticipate it enough for them to not announce him as their coach & schedule a press conference for him, mind.

[Dan]

Panthers interim GM Marty Hurney has been put on paid leave after being accused of harassment by his ex-wife, even though she’s withdrawn the complaint :cab:

NFL conducting their own investigation, of course.

[Giggles]

Haven't the Colts already hired some of McDaniels assistants too? That'll be a right mess if their new coach wants his own people.

[Giggles]

:cool:


961053452599111680

[Dan]

I’ve just heard Patrick Mahomes speak. He sounds like Ed Orgeron’s son :uhoh:

[Foe]

That sounds like a career suicide for McDaniels. If he's groomed for the pats he'll get a shot but anything other than continued success and he's fucked.

[Giggles]

He'd have been fucked at the Colts anyway, they're dire.

[Foe]

Perhaps, but by basically misleading a team for weeks and fobbing them off will piss off owners league wide. It's not like there's a shortage of coaches.

[Giggles]

Nah, Pirate Matt is the look of coaching genius

He's already got rid of most of it.


https://imagecomposer.nfl.com/?l=http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/photo/2018/02/07/0ap3000000915316.jpg

[John]

Apparently that McDaniel tit has lost his agent over his non signing for the Colts.

[Giggles]

The agent is rattling off lines like he actually has morals and a conscience, which can be loosely translated as it's cost him money.

[Ian]

Who does Patricia remind me of in that picture?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.tigerstrypes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Home-Improvement.jpg

I get Al from Home Improvement but a more modern version.

[McAvennie]

That's tragic, like Samson cutting off his hair.
Now he just looks like a bad English teacher

[Ian]

I think it might just be a shorter-haired David Mitchell he's reminding me of.

[Giggles]

Garoppolo just got paid. Highest ever on paper at $137.5m over 5 years but nothing yet on how much of it is real money.

[Gray Fox]

Fucking hell that's big money.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Huge but it's the way the top(ish) QB market works.

[Foe]

Each QB just one ups each other. Interesting to see what happens with Eli / brees/ Kirk cousins.

That's a lot of money but if it turns the franchise around, it doesn't matter.

[Giggles]

Wilson and Rodgers are up for a payday next year too.

[Dan]

$74m guaranteed, third most in the league, apparently.

I reckon Brees will end up around $25m a year, Cousins is going to get nearly $30m a year, and then Rodgers & Wilson will probably go over that number, with whichever gets paid last getting the most.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Thought the guaranteed would be a touch lower.

I think Cousins is going to end up being an expensive flop for whoever pays the twat.

Wilson and Rodgers might start getting closer to 40.

[Giggles]

The outfit :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhIFNxEz1qc

[Giggles]

No prizes for guessing which one is number 1.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtFe5PM87BU

[Dan]

Frank Reich is the new Colts HC, for real this time. They showed him holding that days paper & everything.

Reuben Foster, meanwhile, has been arrested for the second time in a month - domestic violence & possible possession of an assault rifle :cab: Starting to lose faith in him pretty quickly.

[Giggles]

It's that the Frank Reich of the Bills?

[Gray Fox]

Former Bills player. Was Eagles OC last season.

[Giggles]

That's the one. Never knew he was a coach.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think I got booted from the queue for season tickets at the last minute.

I really don't like how there's just a shit circle, give me a fucking number you twats.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Block 203 :cool:

[Dan]

Shit, is that today, or is it just existing season ticket holders? I set an alert on my phone for it but it’s clearly not gone off.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

For new season tickets.

I wanted 201/251 but they were gone.

[Dan]

Cocks. I’ll have to check that on my lunch then.

Where did you get yours from?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.eticketing.co.uk/nfl/

[Dan]

Nice of them not to provide a seating plan or explain what categories are :moop:

I sense doing this at work on my phone isn’t a great plan.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah, here's a version of the plan:

http://www.nfluk.com/assets/images/imported/NFLUK/2018-Wembley-price-plan-SINGLE_NICK_600.jpg

[Dan]

Fuck it, I’m giving up until I get home. Either all the good ones have already gone or I’m incapable of finding them on that system.

[Browning]

Having one for years and not having to worry :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The system is indeed shit.

Don't bother trying to select the exact block number you want. Just use the category.

The premium sideline centrals were sold out quick but I think all the others still have tickets.

[Dan]

All out of category 3 & 6 tickets, apparently, and 4 isn’t even an option.

Guess I’ll be getting general sale tickets again then.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Only the end zone ones are left I think.

[Dan]

That was irritatingly quick :moop:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000916449/article/aj-mccarron-wins-grievance-will-be-free-agent-in-march

AJ McCarron has won his grievance and will be an unrestriced free agent.

Someone (Browns) will overpay him despite the fact that he's fucking shit.

[Gray Fox]

He's not bad for a season or two, but he's not the future of the franchise. Maybe they sit Mayfield behind him and ease him in gently to stop him Kizering the place up.

[Dan]

Cardinals will probably get him, Bradford & Foles to have a slap fight for the starting job.

[Dan]

Doug Martin’s been cut by the Bucs. I’d like to see him get picked up by the Giants or Redskins, probably. Could be a decent option in Detroit too, actually.

Thinking about it, McKinnon to the Giants, Martin to the Redskins, Fat Rob to the Bills, Derrius Guice to the Lions, Abdullah to the Jets, Powell to the Titans to back up Henry & DeMarco to the Bucs, who also take Sony Michel or Ronald Jones in R2 :nodd:

In other cut related news, the Bears have cut Jerrell Freeman & the Texans have cut Brian Cushing. Meanwhile, the Eagles are promoting WR coach Mike Groh to OC, and Baker is probably not going to be at the draft.

[Dan]

Shiiiii... (https://nypost.com/2018/02/19/60m-in-1st-year-jets-set-to-creatively-pounce-on-kirk-cousins/) :rasta:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If they guarantee like 90% of a contract for a QB, fucking hell.

No wonder they're a mess.

[Pleb]

Cousins going to the Jets would be fucking mental and a weird steal.

I was hoping he would go to the likes of Ravens and Browns etc.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

There's not a chance he'd go to the Ravens.

We have fuck all cap room and we can't cut Flacco.

Only QB we'll be bringing in is a 3rd or lower pick in the draft.

[Dan]

I’d expect the only realistic candidates are Denver, the Jets, Arizona & the Vikings. Everyone else is too shit and/or too poor to get him.

I played around with the Cleveland WARCHEST a couple of days ago to see how mental their free agency spending could be - I went $40m on Cousins first year thinking that was bold enough to get it done but apparently not :D

Then again I spent the remaining $60m on Lev Bell, Jarvis Landry, Malcolm Butler & resigning Josh Gordon, so that could still probably do it as a full package.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm really hoping that we make a push for one of Gordon or Landry.

Wont happen but I can dream.

[Dan]

There's not a chance he'd go to the Ravens.

We have fuck all cap room and we can't cut Flacco.

Only QB we'll be bringing in is a 3rd or lower pick in the draft.

Riley Ferguson from Memphis feels like he could be a decent day three option for someone like Baltimore. I’d like the Saints to grab Mike White or Kyle Lauletta with our 4th or early 5th, but if they aren’t there (which the probably shouldn’t be) then Riley late R5 would be fine too, especially if we also nabbed their WR Anthony Miller in R3 (also highly unlikely).

Baltimore are probably better off waiting & taking someone like Jarret Stidham, Drew Lock or Justin Herbert in R1 next season though. How many more years of cap oblivion has Flacco doomed you to?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://overthecap.com/player/joe-flacco/1383

It's not too bad if we cut him next year but 2020 is the better option.

[Dan]

I'm really hoping that we make a push for one of Gordon or Landry.

Wont happen but I can dream.

I can’t see Gordon going anywhere - considering Cleveland have kept him sitting around through all his shenanigans it would be mad to let him walk as soon as he actually shows up & plays.

Landry will probably end up in Chicago. I’d say San Fran, but they already have Garçon who Shanahan loves & who does basically the same role. Jets getting him & Cousins could be great too though.

WR with your first two picks might not be terrible - Calvin Ridley is the obvious one if he falls to you, but otherwise I like the idea of Courtland Sutton in R1 & Anthony Miller in R2. Could follow that by chucking in a TE like Mike Gesicki, Hayden Hurst or maybe even Mark Andrews in the third, although you might have to take Andrews before Miller in that scenario.

[Dan]

https://overthecap.com/player/joe-flacco/1383

It's not too bad if we cut him next year but 2020 is the better option.

That’s depressing. One more year of misery then a year of knowing there’s someone good waiting on the bench to take his place would be okay - you have to get someone by the 2020 draft though, even if that means forking out to go up & grab Jake Fromm or Tua (holy shit I’ve just seen his actual first name)Tagovailoa in that draft.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You can understand why he shortened it.

[John]

That's a good name but it probably doesn't crack the top hundred names in the NFL. Isn't there a bloke called Ha Ha in the league?

[Dan]

He should probably just go by Tua Tag & save everyone a lot of trouble. They probably charge extra to get a jersey with his name on.

Looks like the Bucs have followed up the release of Doug Martin by also letting Chris Baker go, and you can see why pretty quickly - his entire cap hit is wiped, there were questions about his effort & in 15 games he had half a sack more than I did all last season. The Bears have also made a second move by deciding to let Josh Sitton hit free agency. This free agency could actually be loaded, although in all likelihood Lev Bell, Allen Robinson & DeMarcus Lawrence will all get the tag if they don't sign before the deadline.

[Dan]

That's a good name but it probably doesn't crack the top hundred names in the NFL. Isn't there a bloke called Ha Ha in the league?

It might even get better when you consider his surname is Clinton Dix.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ha Ha Clinton-Dix although his full name is Ha'Sean Treshon Clinton-Dix.

[John]

There's also someone on his way to the NFL named Kobe Buffalomeat. He appeared on that Name of the Year thing I posted last year.

Get a picture of him in your head and then Google him. I guarantee your picture was wrong.

[Dan]

I always enjoyed D'Brickashaw Ferguson as a name, personally.

My favourite from the upcoming draft class is probably Equanimeous St. Brown, although Hercules Mata'afa is a decent candidate as well. You could probably chuck BJ Hill in too, to be fair.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

+1 for D'Brickashaw.

I also loved Captain Munnerlyn.

[John]

I always enjoyed D'Brickashaw Ferguson as a name, personally.

My favourite from the upcoming draft class is probably Equanimeous St. Brown.

That's a corker. His first name is an anagram of His Drawback, which seems appropriate for such an obviously black name in America.

[Dan]

Here's a scenario for you 'how.

Baker Mayfield & Calvin Ridley are both available when you pick in R1. Do you gamble on the QB & try to figure out what the fuck to do with him & Flacco later, or do you take the 24 year old WR that may or may not get better than he already is in a class with quality & potential all the way down?

[Ian]

The one that is the actual best name is Winston Justice. Such a waste of a great name.

Onto the mental stuff, Earthwind Moreland is a favourite of mine. Frostee Rucker is good too, named after poet Robert Frost which must be one of the stupidest not-stupid things ever.

Other good'uns include C.J. Ah You, Fair Hooker, Yourhighness Morgan and of course this guy who I discovered when Googling amusing names recently to entertain myself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Monds

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Here's a scenario for you 'how.

Baker Mayfield & Calvin Ridley are both available when you pick in R1. Do you gamble on the QB & try to figure out what the fuck to do with him & Flacco later, or do you take the 24 year old WR that may or may not get better than he already is in a class with quality & potential all the way down?

The WR. I don't trust Mayfield and the handlebar moustache he grew.

[John]

The one that is the actual best name is Winston Justice. Such a waste of a great name.

Onto the mental stuff, Earthwind Moreland is a favourite of mine. Frostee Rucker is good too, named after poet Robert Frost which must be one of the stupidest not-stupid things ever.

Other good'uns include C.J. Ah You, Fair Hooker, Yourhighness Morgan and of course this guy who I discovered when Googling amusing names recently to entertain myself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Monds

Find the thread I started for the 'Name of the Year' competition last year, Ian. You'll enjoy yourself. Marmaduke Treblecock makes an appearance, and isn't close to the best.

You've brought up that Earthwind bloke before. If his middle name isn't 'Anfire' it's a fucking shame.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I like that there was a QB in the 80s called Chuck Long.

Nominative determinism ftw.

[John]

https://i.gyazo.com/69a36c3f9ec0c912b8fe5ceae7f701fb.png

Looking back on it, I absolutely undervalued Dougal Spork at the time. Aphrodite Bodycomb remains an utter fucking masterpiece.

[Dan]

I hope they made him throw screens & checkdowns just to spite him. CJ Ah You is a name I'd forgotten completely :drool:

[Dan]

https://i.gyazo.com/69a36c3f9ec0c912b8fe5ceae7f701fb.png

Looking back on it, I absolutely undervalued Dougal Spork at the time. Aphrodite Bodycomb remains an utter fucking masterpiece.

Dr Prospero Gogo v Bumper Pool in the first round of the divisional matches is extremely unfair, and throwing Di Cerulean Stylo & Dick Posthumus in to face each other in the second round of the same group is cruel too. Then on top of that you have Marmaduke Trebilcock in there as well. Talk about a group of death.

Aphrodite Bodycomb is probably the overall winner though, with Bird Lovegod winning the oddity award.

[Ian]

Sultan McDoom and Shaft Cubit are wonderful.

Cinnamon Danube is surely a pudding of some sort.

[Dan]

It probably belongs on a dessert menu alongside Chardonnay Pantastico.

Taco Dibbits for starters, of course.

[Dan]

Dolphins have tagged Landry as soon as the tag window opened, although there’s still talk they could be doing it so they can trade him.

[Ian]

It probably belongs on a dessert menu alongside Chardonnay Pantastico.

Taco Dibbits for starters, of course.

Which I suppose leaves us with a steak of Kobe Buffalomeat for our main course. Lovely.

[Dan]

The ultimate fine dining experience :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Clicking on the NFL article about the Jags cutting Ivory has thrown out a great name that was also cut.

I'Tavius Mathers...

[Pleb]

Marcus Peters has gone to the Rams. (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000917336/article/chiefs-finalizing-deal-to-trade-marcus-peters-to-rams)

:|

[Dan]

Scenes :drool:

[Pleb]

So...the Chiefs are now pretty much garbage?

I mean they were pretty much garbage last season but we won't tell Andy Reid that we said that :sherlock:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Was rumours that a trade might happen as he was pissing people off there.

Big decision though considering just how shit their secondary is outside of Berry now.

Considering how cheap his contract still is right now they must be getting a lot of picks for him.

[Dan]

Nobody's ever worth the number of picks we'd think. They probably got a second & third or something.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

No second (for this year) as they gave it up for Watkins.

1st and 3rd from this year plus a second from next year.

It wont be that but that's what I'm thinking.

[Giggles]

http://uk.businessinsider.com/former-nfl-players-instagram-post-may-be-linked-to-school-shutdown-2018-2

:uhoh:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jesus.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Ravens camp thought that Jefferson wouldn't have cancelled out Wagner and they'd get a third.

Played, lads.

[McAvennie]

I sure hope the Chiefs have a grand scheme in mind for replacing Peters. He may have been a pain in the ass, but he was also a damn good corner

[Dan]

You’d have to imagine they’ll be going after Trumaine Johnson/Malcolm Butler in free agency or taking one with their first pick in the draft.

Any news on what they got yet?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Peanut Tillman has become an FBI agent since retiring:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000917317/article/report-exbears-cb-charles-tillman-now-an-fbi-agent

[Foe]

Jags have given Blake bortles a 3 year $54m base extension.

Was not expecting that.

[Gray Fox]

They had their best season in years and he was under centre. I can see why they've done it. It's not costing them a bomb($18m per season I think), he knows the team inside out and was only 1 incomplete pass, which was just defended well, from the Superbowl.

[Dan]

Well there goes Kirk Cousins' dream landing spot.

[Gray Fox]

It's Jets, Browns, Broncos or Cardinals now isn't it?

[Pleb]

:drool:

[Foe]

I don't think he ends up at the Browns. I'd be surprised if he didn't end up a Cardinal.

The Browns and Jets have too good a draft position with too many QBs there. If they think any of them are Day 1 starters and winners, there's no way they should be throwing elite QB money at Cousins.

The Cardinals have less of a shot at getting one of the key QBs so could be in win-now mode, same as the Broncos if big John doesn't fancy any of them in the short term (although the Broncos at 5 have a mighty fine shot at least).

I suspect the Browns might see if they can snag McCarron on middling/prove it money over a 2-3 year deal and nab an elite guy in the draft in case it doesn't work out and the rookie proves to be a phenom like Wentz did. A bit like Seahawks did with Wilson/Cassel.

Obviously I know fuck all about this, and just rambling, but that's the logic I'd see.

Don't think he goes to Buffalo either. I can see Buff keeping Tyrod a year and grabbing a QB in 1st round this year (either through trading up, or taking someone who falls) in the low 20s).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They had their best season in years and he was under centre. I can see why they've done it. It's not costing them a bomb($18m per season I think), he knows the team inside out and was only 1 incomplete pass, which was just defended well, from the Superbowl.

It was mainly due to him running though.

I think it's saying that they don't like any of the free agents (none are a huge upgrade) and they're not sure about those in the draft, at least short term.

A third day QB and give Bortles 2 more years maybe.

[Dan]

NFL shop are having a sale. I may have bought a Jalen Ramsey jersey & an Antonio Brown bumblebee jersey :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Only Ravens jersey is a Flacco salute to service one.

I think I'll pass.

[Giggles]

Peters + 6th (2018) for 2nd (2019) + 4th (2018).

[Dan]

Nobody's ever worth the number of picks we'd think. They probably got a second & third or something.

Pretty close. Trade values are mad.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm surprised it was that little seeing as he was still on his rookie contract.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I had forgotten that the Chiefs have already acquired David Amerson and Kendall Fuller.

Neither are at Peters's level but they're solid options in what was a horrible secondary last year.

[McAvennie]

On the face of it that's a poor return for a player of his quality and age - you have to figure that's going to be a low 2nd round pick next year.
Maybe the bigger issue is cap room, the Chiefs are right up against it and Peters would be due a whopping contract after next season, so maybe you get what you can now and move on.
if the Rams are getting anything other than a locker room train wreck they've done real well out of this

[Dan]

I think I had a dream last night that the Saints were thinking of trading Marshon Lattimore for 25 picks :D

[Browning]

NFL shop are having a sale. I may have bought a Jalen Ramsey jersey & an Antonio Brown bumblebee jersey :drool:

Went for Allen Robinson as he's on my dynasty team and it was £34. They better tag him now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jets have cut Mohammed Wilkerson which was always going to happen. When they got rid of Richardson and Snacks Harrison he phoned it in. Pats will probably pick him up and he'll go back to being one of the best 3-4 DT/DE's in the game.

Jonathan Stewart has been cut by the Panthers.

Matt Forte has retired.

Mike Glennon will be released too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tavon Austin is going to be traded or released. Jeff Fisher really fucked up (surprising) by giving him such a big contract, he's a mediocre gadget player.

[Dan]

29 bench reps for Saquon & Nick Chubb, which ties the RB record. For the linemen Quenton Nelson managed 35, with Will Hernandez managing 37 to lead the way so far.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000918218/article/sam-darnold-measures-with-9-38inch-hands-at-nfl-combine

Sam Darnold has biggish hands.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000645558/article/goffs-hand-measures-larger-at-pro-day-than-it-did-at-combine



Is hand size the worst bullshit thing in judging players? I think it's a contender.

Mine are 9.75 inches so if any NFL team wants to pay me a mountain of cash to throw balls around and make Peyton look like a speed demon just let me know.

I have Deshaun Watson sized hands apparently, still waiting on those phone calls...

[Dan]

Sounds like Billy Price might've injured himself doing the bench :(

Orlando Brown, the big monster who was blocking for Baker Mayfield, and whose Dad was a former OT for the Ravens, managed FOURTEEN reps in the bench press :D Shockingly, he's planning to go again at his pro day in a bid to recover some dignity.

Saquon Barkley is just so impressive though - not just physically, but he always interviews really well & I don't think I've ever seen anyone say anything even remotely negative about him.

[Dan]

Have we mentioned that Jim Kelly has announced his throat cancer has returned? :(

[Dan]

Orlando Brown, the big monster who was blocking for Baker Mayfield, and whose Dad was a former OT for the Ravens, managed FOURTEEN reps in the bench press :D Shockingly, he's planning to go again at his pro day in a bid to recover some dignity

He's followed that up with a 5.85 in his 40 (for comparison, the next slowest anyone else ran was 5.58, while Will Hernandez ran 5.15 at 330lbs & Desmond Harrison ran 4.9), and was apparently yelled at by coaches for loafing about during the O-Line drills :D

Just murdering himself so far in Indy. He could've gone from a potential first round guy to even being questionable as a 2/3.

EDIT: Will Hernandez, James Daniels & Desmond Harrison have made some money so far. Daniels didn't run (neither will Mike McGlinchey), but they've all looked good in drills. Tyrell Crosby has helped himself too.

Watching back through the sessions & it kinda looks like Brown stiffs Alex Cappa a bit on the short/pull drill. He looked to be making himself harder to move than anyone else was when he was holding the bags, and that's definitely not Cappa being weak because he's literally just knocked the other bag guy into the air on the previous rep.

Mike McGlinchey must have sent his Dad to do his combine. There's no way that dude is fresh out of college,

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It sounds like he's tanking so the Ravens can take him late.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Fifth slowest time ever.

Eisen's best time in a suit is 5.94 so at least he didn't lose to Rich.

[Dan]

Maybe :D

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49ers won the coin toss so they'll be picking 9.

[Dan]

Saquon ran 4.41 then 4.42 in the 40 at 233lbs. Meanwhile, track sprinter Nyheim Hines, 198lbs, ran 4.39/4.38 :cab:

Oh, and he also jumped a 41” vertical. The guy is a fucking freak.

Ronald Jones did his hamstring in his first run & is done for the day :( Also Nick Chubb outran Sony Michel.

[Foe]

Saquon ran 4.41 then 4.42 in the 40 at 233lbs. Meanwhile, track sprinter Nyheim Hines, 198lbs, ran 4.39/4.38 :cab:

Oh, and he also jumped a 41” vertical. The guy is a fucking freak.

Ronald Jones did his hamstring in his first run & is done for the day :( Also Nick Chubb outran Sony Michel.

The boys a freak athlete. If you watch any of the college games he basically carried Penn State this year. Some of the returns were just unbelievable. He's so elusive and once he's got a gap he's gone. He must know in his head like 2-3 second before he breaks through that he's got them.

The Penn State QB wasn't bad, but Barkley is just elite for Sundays and was on a different playing field in College. A bit like McCaffrey was the year before.

He seems pretty durable too so I really am looking forward to seeing him next year. Unfortunately, he'll probably go to the Browns at 4 if by any slim miracle he's still available which would've been the Texans where he's be absolutely perfect for them and their non-existent run game.

I'd absolutely love to see an NFL draft board of position rankings of overall players.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Apparently the Browns are strongly considering taking Darnold at 1.

I'd say that Barkley at 1 and a QB at 4 is a much better bet. Unless someone goes full mental and trades up then you're looking at them getting Barkley and a QB that the Giants don't pick. I highly doubt that Barkley is still there at 4.

[Dan]

Barkley, Quenton Nelson & Minkah Fitzpatrick are probably your top three, with Nick Chubb, Derwin James, Roquan Smith, Tremaine Edmunds and maybe a few others in the next group.

Saquon can be summed up by a few plays - he jukes Josey Jewell into his own grave, gets to the outside & into the coner for a TD when any normal player would’ve been buried at the line of scrimmage. Then you can look at any of the clips of him jumping straight over defenders (pretty sure he trucks somebody right after landing in one of them too), and follow that up with his kick return TDs or the run against USC last season.

Literally the only criticisms of him are that he’s maybe not as good of a downhill runner as you’d think for his size & strength, and he loses a lot of yards trying to bounce runs outside & do too much.

It’s going to blow so many brains if he ends up a bust.

[Foe]

No chance he makes it past 3. If the colts value Andrew luck at all, they'll get a rb to take the heat off.

[Dan]

Apparently the Browns are strongly considering taking Darnold at 1.

I'd say that Barkley at 1 and a QB at 4 is a much better bet. Unless someone goes full mental and trades up then you're looking at them getting Barkley and a QB that the Giants don't pick. I highly doubt that Barkley is still there at 4.

Sounds like the Giants might not take a QB, since they’re mental, so you could have 2 & 3 traded to teams trying to get in front of Cleveland. They have to take their QB first, there are enough good RBs left that they can still get someone like Michel or Ronald Jones in the second round, maybe even Guice, and be very well off.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just go for Foles, get Barkley at 1 and then someone like Fitzpatrick at 4.

A trash team then becomes slightly dangerous and actually looking like they might be able to turn shit around.

No doubt they'll spend far too much on Muhammed Wilkerson, Jonathan Stewart, Malcolm Butler and a new contract for Earl Thomas when they trade for him.

They'll then take combine performers with mental names to keep them shit. Oh and the wrong QB ofc.

[Dan]

No chance he makes it past 3. If the colts value Andrew luck at all, they'll get a rb to take the heat off.

Surely if they valued Andrew Luck they'd get some decent linemen? Bradley Chubb is looking like the favourite to go to them at the minute, but they have to be taking offers for the pick. Both the Colts & Giants would probably find it pretty easy to move back if they could get all four of Buffalo's first & second round picks.


Just go for Foles, get Barkley at 1 and then someone like Fitzpatrick at 4.

A trash team then becomes slightly dangerous and actually looking like they might be able to turn shit around.

No doubt they'll spend far too much on Muhammed Wilkerson, Jonathan Stewart, Malcolm Butler and a new contract for Earl Thomas when they trade for him.

They'll then take combine performers with mental names to keep them shit. Oh and the wrong QB ofc.

McCarron.

:nodd:

:uhoh:

[Dan]

Saquon ran 4.41 then 4.42 in the 40 at 233lbs. Meanwhile, track sprinter Nyheim Hines, 198lbs, ran 4.39/4.38 :cab:

Oh, and he also jumped a 41” vertical. The guy is a fucking freak.

The 40 ended up being a 4.4 flat, even though it looked like he slipped a bit on his second run, and yet he's disappointed by pretty much all of his results :D

He said the goal was a 4.3 range run, a 42 inch jump & 30 reps on the bench, so it's not like he missed by miles.

[Dan]

Dolphins have traded for Robert Quinn. The Rams get a 4th round pick back, and they’re swapping their 6th rounders as well.

Meanwhile, the Saints have signed Kurt Coleman to a 3 year deal. All but confirms Kenny Vacaro will be gone, but given we already have Vonn Bell & Marcus Williams, I’m not sure why we need Coleman, especially for three years.

There’s also talk that Tyrann Mathieu could be getting cut this season, which would be interesting, although Tampa are one of the early favourites, so that’s not so good.

[Dan]

Lamar Jackson had an okay day, dropping a few deep balls short & staying out of the drills. Josh Allen looked decent, and chucked a ball about 75 yards without really trying, while Darnold didn’t throw but ran slower than I’d expected - Mayfield, Rosen & Mason Rudolph were all roughly as fast, and Allen was quicker.

For the receivers, DJ Chark was probably the pick of the bunch, running 4.34, jumping 40 inches & looking good in the drills. Christian Kirk was a tad slower, but still had a nice day with a 4.47 & 20 bench reps.

More worryingly, Maurice Hurst had a heart issue detected in his medical & won’t be taking part in the combine.

EDIT: Calvin Ridley went 4.44 but Equanimeous St. Brown, who’s 6’ 5”, managed 4.48 :drool: He & Chark have probably got themselves into day two just from their 40 times.

Mike Gesicki jumped 41.5", which is almost the TE record, and followed that up with a 4.54 in the 40. Mark Andrews ran 4.67, while elsewhere Shaquem Griffen put up 20 reps on the bench. That's six more than Orlando Brown, and Shaq only has one hand.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Orlando Brown an O-Lineman (who is having a shocker as Dan has been telling us) managed 14 reps on the bench press.

Shaquem Griffin is a linebacker without a left hand, he used a prosthetic and banged out 20.

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[Dan]

I dreamt that Orlando Brown did 53 reps last night. I’m dreaming about the draft far too frequently :D

[McAvennie]

i'm not convinced these workouts are really anything other than an event for the NFL to advertise its product

[Foe]

i'm not convinced these workouts are really anything other than an event for the NFL to advertise its product

Bucky Brooks did a piece a couple of days ago saying something similar. A lot of these guys these days train for these specific drills for weeks and months in advance, when actually it's not a great reflection of what they are as a football player.

I think it probably has a place in part to see how much the guys actually want it. They are scripted by agents on what to say 'chip on my shoulder' and 'enjoying the process' will be banded about but realistically, which of the guys are willing to actually put it on the line and show the football acumen in the interviews. Look at Cooper Kupp from last year. Seemingly he came out of his interview with the Rams and the coaches were blown away with his knowledge of the game and they tipped them to think he'd thrive in the league - and based on his rookie year they weren't wrong, even if he did post a pedestrian 40 yard dash time.

Showing Orlando Brown up for being a lazy sack of shit is a great example of where the combine adds to just reviewing game film.

[Dan]

i'm not convinced these workouts are really anything other than an event for the NFL to advertise its product

They’re not really. The position drills are more useful, as they’re actually testing skills that have practical use in game situations, but aside from the three cone most of the actual combine events are barely worth anything for the majority of players.

Vita Vea’s done for the day with a hamstring, as is Bilal Nichols, but Da’Ron Payne & Nathan Shepherd are making it look easy so far. Harrison Phillips has had his moments too, as have a few others, but they’re the two standouts so far.

[Gray Fox]

If it's close between 2 guys for your pick and you can't decide, then combine figures could sway you one way.

Still all this does is make you decide whose Pro-day you want to go to. The 1 on 1 time there is way more valuable than this.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Shaquem Griffin has posted a 4.38 40 yard time. That's the fastest since 2003 (when they started recording times) for a LB and only D.J. Clark and Marquez Valdes-Scantling (great name) have clocked faster times this year and they're both WRs.

His stock has been steadily rising since he got MVP in a bowl game.

[Giggles]

Shaquem Griffin has posted a 4.38 40 yard time. That's the fastest since 2003 (when they started recording times) for a LB and only D.J. Clark and Marquez Valdes-Scantling (great name) have clocked faster times this year and they're both WRs.

His stock has been steadily rising since he got MVP in a bowl game.

And by April it'll all be forgotten when teams run scared.

[Dan]

Shaq :cool: Just got in from the cinema so I’ll be looking back to see his workouts.

In reality he’ll probably end up being a day three guy, partly because he’s a bit small & doesn’t really have a clear role but mostly because of his hand. If he was 20lbs heavier & had two hands he’d be a first rounder - everything else about him is exceptional.

4.38 might make people lean towards using him as a safety & occasional edge rusher, with weak side linebacker being an option too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He'll get drafted late to be a special teams specialist (he'll be great at defending kick returns), work hard and get some proper defensive time.

I think he'll do well in his career.

[Dan]

He’ll be special teams captain by the start of his second season.

[McAvennie]

Teams are using a specialist pass cover LB far more so his role is set - he's big enough and fast enough to cover running backs and tight ends, and his one hand is less of an issue in pass coverage.

Superb athleticism combined with tonnes of heart, he'll do well in the NFL

[Dan]

Teams are using a specialist pass cover LB far more so his role is set - he's big enough and fast enough to cover running backs and tight ends, and his one hand is less of an issue in pass coverage.

Superb athleticism combined with tonnes of heart, he'll do well in the NFL

He's not big enough to cover a tight end, and I'm not sure his coverage skills are quite good enough for anyone to want to be putting him man to man on a decent pass catching RB either. For me he's either a deep safety or a weak side linebacker who could be used as a rusher on third downs, depending on where he ends up, but he'll definitely have a spot on a roster from day one.

[McAvennie]

He's 6'1 and 227, which is the same size as Roquan Smith who won the Butkus award and is considered the top linebacker prospect in the draft.

He won't be playing free safety in the NFL, but teams are increasingly using 3 safety sets so he could land a spot as a safety/linebacker hybrid.

if he can't cover a tightend then who can? Your 6'4 250lb linebackers aren't fast enough, most safeties are smaller than he is.

guess we'll have to wait and see, first if he gets drafted and then how a team uses him

[Dan]

Roquan's great, I'm not wanting to put him man to man with Zach Ertz though. Tremaine Edmunds is the guy you'd want from a physical standpoint, but it's really fucking hard to find someone who can cover both TEs & RBs.

As for Shaq, I just feel like his speed could make him a nice, rangy safety, and using him deep would keep him out of a lot of the physical stuff he might struggle with at the next level. Weak side LB is an option for the same reason - get him chasing the ball down & try to limit the number of times he has to come downhill & take on linemen.

[Browning]

Even with a Dynasty league to draft for this year, I still don't give a shit which college kids can run 40 yards the fastest or whatever the hell they're doing. This is such a boring time of year for the NFL, they need to just open free agency already and let us have some news about people who matter.

[Foe]

I'm kind of agreed with the Day 3 draft thing. Look back at Michael Sam, he was co-defensive player of the year in the SEC and yet because he didn't quite have the perfect traits for a given position at the next level (and the NFL teams likely being a bit sceptical of diversity) he gets drafted at the arse end of the draft by his local team.

Could see him being a comp pick in the 5th or 6th round, maybe Oakland 'athlete' Raiders.

[Dan]

Josh Jackson had a pretty bad day in the drills. He was stopped in almost every single one, and I'm pretty sure he got stopped a couple of times in at least one drill. Decent run in the 40, but he definitely underwhelmed. Mike Hughes wasn't amazing either.

Jaire Alexader, however, had a good day, as did Holton Hill, who will likely slide because he kept getting suspended at Texas, but looks like he could become a decent player. Denzel Ward running a 4.32 was impressive, and Donte Jackson looked like he could've run faster too.

[Dan]

Rich Eisen broke 6 seconds in his 40 today, and the simulcam work was outstanding :D

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[Foe]

Rich Eisen broke 6 seconds in his 40 today, and the simulcam work was outstanding :D

'The baton hit him in the face' is probably the best thing I've ever heard Deion Sanders say.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I need Eisen simulcast with Tom Brady in his lost and found PE kit and Orlando Brown.

The NFL need to put it together.

[Dan]

I think my favourite one (aside from the one against the simulcam guy, of course) was the straight race with Vita Vea who ended up off the screen by the time Rich finished :D

[Browning]

Allen Robinson hasn't been tagged, so my jersey will be out of date before I even wear it to a game it looks like.

Chris Ivory has signed for the Bills to back up Shady.

[Dan]

They have another week to get a deal done, I think, so there's still hope.

Sounds like Seattle are looking to trade Michael Bennett, with Atlanta being the favourites, and the Ravens are apparently interesting in Moncrief, which could be a nice fit.

[Foe]

I think my favourite one (aside from the one against the simulcam guy, of course) was the straight race with Vita Vea who ended up off the screen by the time Rich finished :D

Vita Vea looked fast as hell for a seriously large man in there. He made himself some money there. Danny Shelton was huge, but Vea is huge and fast.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking Moncrief.

We don't need fucking speedsters who can't catch a fucking ball.

[Browning]

I would consider that an upgrade on your current WRs.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm a fucking upgrade over a Maclin who doesn't give a shit and Perriman who plays like he doesn't have any hands.

Moncrief has been constantly injured the last two years too, so it's a match made in heaven for the physios.

[Browning]

The Steelers have officially tagged Le'v Bell. I swear, he better not actually retire...

[Ian]

Have any of the pouty-faced millionaires threatening to retire over franchise tags ever actually done it?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

No, because they realise that $14m a year is actually worth getting out of bed for.

[Browning]

I did like Landry saying it's all about providing for his family. Fuck off. The $16m from the tag alone would provide for them for generations.

[Dan]

Ed Oliver has already declared for the 2019 draft :cool:

Top five player, assuming he doesn’t get hurt.

[Browning]

Michael Bennett to the Eagles confirmed.

[Dan]

5th rounder & some WR nobody’s heard of. They must’ve been desperate to get rid of him.

All but confirms Vinny Curry will be gone. Isn’t Paul Richardson leaving Seattle too?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I wouldn't say no to Richardson in Baltimore.

Sherman has said he doesn't expect to be in Seattle this coming season and has already said goodbye to teammates.

[Dan]

Giants have traded two 2018 picks to the Rams for Alec Ogletree. The Rams already have a run of 4 picks out of 5 in the fourth or fifth round, so they're going full Browns on the mid-rounds of the 2018 draft.

The NFL has finally caught up with the trade scene :drool:

[Gray Fox]

Bennett? I like it.

Although we already have no 2nd and 3rd round pick this year, take out a 5th and we might as well just phone pick #32 in.

[Dan]

Clearly they don’t want to go to Dallas.

Apparently Derrius Guice was asked if he’s gay in one of his combine interviews :cab: You can always count on somebody to throw out all the dumb, irrelevant questions under the pretence of a personality test.

EDIT: Guice also said someone asked him how he felt about his Mum being a prostitute :D They must’ve let one of the coaches’ kids do the interview.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Was he also asked if he'd fight 100 duck sized horses or one horse sized duck?

[Browning]

DeMarco Murray being cut should hand me another dynasty title. Derrick Henry as a featured back :drool:

[Gray Fox]

The Rams are closing on a trade for Aqib Talib. They are going for it big time.

[Dan]

They got him for a fifth, which seems like a good deal.

Mohammed Wilkerson is visiting with KC & the Saints, apparently. We need help on the D-Line but I’m not sure if a guy with questionable attitude who’d probably still want to get paid pretty well is going to be the ideal solution.

The Cards have asked Tyrann Mathieu to take a pay cut too, so we’ll see how that one plays out. He could be the next L.A. Ram the way things have been going.

[Ian]

I'd have probably hoped for a little more but for a player of his age and some of the issues he's had it's not the end of the world. At least we've kept Harris on.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They got him for a fifth, which seems like a good deal.

Mohammed Wilkerson is visiting with KC & the Saints, apparently. We need help on the D-Line but I’m not sure if a guy with questionable attitude who’d probably still want to get paid pretty well is going to be the ideal solution.

The Cards have asked Tyrann Mathieu to take a pay cut too, so we’ll see how that one plays out. He could be the next L.A. Ram the way things have been going.

Teams have an excellent negotiation tactic this year if they want to use it:

Look at how much cap space the Browns have, I'm sure you'd look great in brown and orange...

Everyone would accept a pay cut.

[Dan]

Sherman’s been cut, but will discuss a new deal with Seattle in free agency

[Dan]

Teams have an excellent negotiation tactic this year if they want to use it:

Look at how much cap space the Browns have, I'm sure you'd look great in brown and orange...

Everyone would accept a pay cut.

They could legitimately get Allen Robinson, Tyrann Mathieu, Malcolm Butler & a few others with all their cap space as well as Saquon & a QB through the draft.

The potential 2018 Browns roster :drool:

[Browning]

And Torrey Smith has been traded to the Panthers.

[Dan]

Just seen that. Traded for Daryl Worley, apparently.

Seahawks have cut Jeremy Lane too, and the Titans are ditching Da’Norris Searcy, Matt Cassell & Eric Weems, which is news nobody cares about.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Thank fuck.

There were rumblings that Smith would come back to Baltimore.

[Gray Fox]

Browns are trading for Landry. Big moves continue.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mike Evans has signed a 5 year $82.5m deal to stay in Tampa.

[Gray Fox]

Browns now get Tyrod Taylor too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

For the first pick in the third round.

Either suggests that they don't like any of the top QBs or want them to sit behind a veteran for a year.

[Ian]

Thank goodness for this thread, in the absence of any NFL news sites on the internet this place is a godsend.

Ronaldo 1-0.

[Gray Fox]

I think it's the latter. Finally doing a smart thing. Take Barkley and take the best QB there at #4. Sit said QB for a year to learn.

[Browning]

Damarious Randall now too. Big day for them.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They're not fucking about.

[Gray Fox]

Much more of this and they'll be better than the Ravens :rosebud:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Trading for a backbone would help.

[Browning]

Kizer has gone the other way and joined the Packers.

[Gray Fox]

They've sent Kizer to the Packers. Who is this organisation and what did they do with the real Browns?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Randal for Kizer (even if picks are involved) is great.

Although Kizer will probably look like a world beater in the 2/3 games he gets when Rodgers gets injured and the Packers get a healthy amount of picks for him. He then reverts to type.

[Dan]

I shouldn’t have gone to the cinema today.

Mostly because some drunk dude ripped the bobble off my Saints hat but also because I missed all the madness :D

EDIT: Landry cost a 2018 fifth & a 2019 seventh. I guess you also have to factor in the contract they'll probably have to give him, but even so that's pretty cheap.

He's the ideal WR for Tyrod 'checkdown' Taylor as well, given all he does is catch passes three yards downfield.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've heard 2018 fourth.

Whatever it is, it's a great deal for them.

[Dan]

Browns keeping it going today. They’ve just traded Danny Shelton to the Patriots for a conditional pick.

[Gray Fox]

Sherman looking like a 49er at the minute.

[Dan]

Sherman looking like a 49er at the minute.

Confirmed now :drool: 3 years, $39m

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I reckon he really wanted to stay in the division.

He's a player who takes things to heart and will probably really try to play up the rivalry between the teams.