The NFL Thread

[Dan]

Peyton's got his post-NFL career sorted. (http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=19976947&sf97523248=1)

Donned it.

[Giggles]

Durant did not look happy.

[bruhnaldo]

Apparently he was in on it.

[Ian]

"Unfortunately my brother Eli can't be here tonight.... because that's what I told the folks at the door."

The better brother. :cool:

[Gray Fox]

Kirk Cousins has turned down a contract that would have seen him have the highest fully guaranteed amount for a QB in NFL history. Even $72m for injury.

I know he wants to work with Kyle Shanahan but that's a bit daft to turn that down.

Lev Bell also didn't come to an agreement. Both will be free agents at the end of the coming season, unless something drastically changes.

[Browning]

I don't think I'll ever understand all the stupid tags and getting compensation for players whose contracts have expired and all that shit. How long can they just keep tagging cousins?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Indefinitely really but the more they do it the bigger the cap hit.

$35m for the year if they do it next year.

[Ian]

I don't think I'll ever understand all the stupid tags and getting compensation for players whose contracts have expired and all that shit.

I've long since stopped caring. When I read that team x need to get rid of player y because of money reason z I just take it they know what they're talking about.

[Browning]

What if he doesn't want to stay there? Can he just fuck off even if they try and tag him?

[Gray Fox]

You can only tag a player 2 times running I believe. So he's a free agent no matter what the end of this season.

And yes, you still have to agree a contract on a franchise tag. You get the average of the top 5 players in your position, in the league, as a wage, so the team wont hand it out willy nilly.

Josh Norman, one of the top corners in the league, was franchise tagged by his then team the Panthers. They couldn't work it out even so and later took the tag off him. He signed for the Redskins the next day. So no they can't force you into it either.

It's generally a good move for the player though. If I'm Cousins, I've earned $25m just last year through being tagged and will earn more again this year. He's going into next season with the ability to sign for the highest bidder, with $50m or so in his pocket already. His only other option this season was signing a long term deal in Washington, but he makes more money this way and is on a better team.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

7th overall pick, Mike Williams, could be out for the season.

Apparently he needs back surgery.

Also, I've pretty much finished the second season of All or Nothing today with one episode left. I was a little concerned due to the Rams being so shit last season and the fact that they were also covered on Hard Knocks but I think it's brilliant. They've done a really good job in putting it all together.

Gregg Williams shows himself off to be an even bigger dickhead than first imagined and I was a little surprised at how emotional the team was about Jeff Fisher getting fired.

[Dan]

More bad news for Mahow. (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000821735/article/ravens-rb-kenneth-dixon-suffers-meniscus-tear) Didn't realise Allen & Taliaferro were still on the team :cab:

Also, this is a pretty ironic thing to happen to a guy called Lucky. (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000821801/article/police-drop-charges-against-wr-lucky-whitehead)

New look NFL site is strange, although it does match the new GamePass.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

ffs, although it's not exactly all that serious. He's suspended for the first 4 games anyway, our 5th game is about 11 weeks away so he has time to recover.

'Zo' is probably going to be the teams starting fullback so the injury gives more hope to Allen and Taquan Mizzell (although he had a chance of being our primary returner anyway).

[Giggles]

That Whitehead thing is fairly poor on behalf of the Cowboys considering the way they've been protecting Elliot the past while.

[Dan]

Yeah, he's not losing too many actual games, but the loss of practice time might mean he needs a few extra weeks to get up to speed once his suspension is over.

[Browning]

Are the Ravens still pretending Dixon is a thing? Get over it, he's never going to materialise.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:cab:

Did you see him run last season? He will be great barring injuries.

[Dan]

Shame he's just got injured then really.

[Browning]

I saw the complete lack of fantasy points he scored every week, that's all I need.

That said, I could have sworn he's been pissing me off for more than 1 season. Maybe it was Buck Allen. It was probably both.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He was a backup, he wasn't going to be a fantasy demon. He would have been had he not gotten injured in preseason though.

Also, he was running incredibly well with a great average per rush.

[Dan]

I dread to think how many round Terrance West has jumped now :moop:

[Browning]

He is done for the year.

So not a thing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck.

Second player we've lost for the season already.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Flacco out for 3-6 weeks now.

Nice to see that nothing has changed with our medical team.

[Dan]

Jesus. Whatever your lot & the Chargers do to players needs to be stopped.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We both hired Arsenal physios.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000822530/article/ravens-discussing-colin-kaepernick-after-flacco-injury

:face:

Also, John Urschel (the beastly mathematician) has decided to retire. He had a strong chance to start on our offensive liner this year so he's been pulled by the money in maths or he's scared as hell at having his knee ripped to shreds.

[Browning]

At least Kaepernick would give you a run game.

[John]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000822530/article/ravens-discussing-colin-kaepernick-after-flacco-injury

:face:

Also, John Urschel (the beastly mathematician) has decided to retire. He had a strong chance to start on our offensive liner this year so he's been pulled by the money in maths or he's scared as hell at having his knee ripped to shreds.

Or CTE.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000822796/article/do-ravens-want-kaepernick-team-signs-another-qb

Signed David Olson of Champions Indoor Football league fame instead of Kap :harold:

Brilliant, he might as well retire now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and it's not a true day without a Raven injury/retirement.

This time it's Crockett Gilmore with a leg injury.

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No word yet on how bad it is though.


According to Zrebiec, Gillmore grabbed his knee at first, and limped off the field with the help of trainers. In a post-practice press conference, Ravens head coach John Harbaugh said that it is too early to know the severity of the injury.

[Giggles]

Flacco can breathe a sigh of relief.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bs-sp-ravens-injuries-crockett-gillmore-20170729-story.html

Gillmore could be out for the season.

As could Maurice Canady who was favoured to start after Tavon Young got injured for the season.

The cuts are going to be easy for us this season, at this rate we wont even have 53 to choose from.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gillmore has torn his meniscus and will need surgery tomorrow. Same injury as Dixon so could be out for the season depending on how bad the tear is.

We've signed former Giants TE, Larry Donnell.

I like Donnell but he's just as injury prone as all our other players so it's clearly going to end well.

I'd have rather signed Gary Barnidge tbh.

[Giggles]

Branden Albert obviously didn't fancy the Jags.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baltimore-sports-blog/bs-sp-ravens-joe-flacco-colin-kaepernick-skip-bayless-20170728-story.html

How does he still have a job?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Rookie guard Tony Siragusa done for the season today. He was likely going to be our starting left guard.

Also Quincy Adeboyejo (a WR) had to be carted off the field and Perriman injured his right leg.

Plus Gillmore is officially out for the season and Canady is looking likely to be out for that long too.

[Dan]

They should just give up already. They'd have less injuries if they were sword fighting in practice.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Indeed:

Pitta (dead)
Dixon (out for the season)
Gillmore (out for the season)
Young (out for the season)
Canady (likely out for the season)
Flacco (out for a few weeks)
Perriman (injured leg/hamstring)
Siragusa (knee destroyed)
Adeboyejo (carted off might be serious)
Urschel (retired, turned to maths).

[Dan]

I'd say you should just go into TANK MODE, but you have to face the Browns twice a year so there's no way you'd finish with anything better than the fourth pick.

[Browning]

I'm fully expecting a run out at Wembley at this rate.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I reckon I could line up as a nose tackle.

Me and Brandon Williams would stuff the whole thing up.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Chargers Rookie Forrest Lamp has torn his ACL
Will Fuller has broken his collar bone
Sterling Shepherd has a low ankle sprain
Jay Ajayi has a concussion
Dominique Easley has torn his ACL

This makes me feel slightly better about the Ravens losing EVERYONE.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gillmore has torn his meniscus and will need surgery tomorrow. Same injury as Dixon so could be out for the season depending on how bad the tear is.

We've signed former Giants TE, Larry Donnell.

I like Donnell but he's just as injury prone as all our other players so it's clearly going to end well.

I'd have rather signed Gary Barnidge tbh.
Didn't take long.

Fell on the ball and injured some fingers/his hand.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000825724/article/ravens-sign-ot-austin-howard-to-threeyear-deal

We've signed Austin Howard on a three year deal.

I like the signing a lot.

Edit: Gillmore cut to make way. I hope we get him back though as I still think he could have a future in the league.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jay Cutler has come out of retirement to join the Dolphins due to Tannehill's injury.

[Giggles]

Good signing for them. The retirement was a bit premature and he did really well under Gase before.

[Foe]

That's a whole lot of money for Cutler too. $10 mill apparently.

Matt Moore must be pissed, probably thought it was going to be his chance to play.

[bruhnaldo]

He had a chance to play and then we got mollywopped by the Steelers in the playoffs.

[Ian]

Sounds like Siemian and Lynch are exciting precisely nobody in training camp.

Also: "Broncos parody Friends theme song" (http://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/06/broncos-parody-friends-theme/)

What the what?

[Foe]

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What an absolute hero.

Also, Boldin has gone to the Bills.

[Dan]

That's been coming for a good couple of weeks now. He'll be a great #1 reciever when Sammy gets injured in the preseason.

Vince :cool:

[Dan]

I've been watching some college football highlights for some of this year's rookies lately, and it amazes me how I can be shocked at how bad the defending is every single time I watch CFB, both highlights & when I've watched full games. It's no wonder every offensive player looks like a stud & every game had 85 points.

Watching anyone try to tackle Samajae Perine was particularly hilarious, and as soon as anyone gets into the secondary they've basically scored as only about 3% of them could tackle a dummy by the look of it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jets have lost Quincy Enunwa for the season which gives them a better hope of getting the number 1 pick.

[Dan]

Well that sucks. Guess they'll be adopting the same 'run every play' style Doug Marrone wants the Jags to use then.

In other news, Brock Osweiler is starting the Browns' first preseason game, while Trevor Siemian gets the nod for Denver. Oh, and Jarvis Landry is being investigated for domestic battery, although the mother of his kid released a statement saying he'd not done anything so maybe he'll avoid a suspension.

[Ian]

Denver have released the depth chart with Siemian and Lynch as "co-starters"....... but Siemian is.... first.... co-start based on seniority?

Presumably, per my previous post, that means they've both looked deeply uninspiring and Joseph isn't even prepared to give one a proper nod yet. Split starts in pre-season maybe, unless one properly shits the bed.

[Giggles]

Decisive.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000826983/article/branden-albert-informs-jaguars-he-wants-to-return

[Dan]

I just saw that :D

Must've been rejected for the Jay Cutler analyst job.

[Browning]

I'm told it's because he owed the Jags money if he retired, but who knows.

Edit- Literally just saw it's in the article.... guess my source wasn't giving me any insider knowledge. :D

[Giggles]

We have actual preseason football tonight :alan:

I watched the full, 3hr broadcast replay of the hall of fame game I was so starved (think I swapped to condensed midway through, to be fair), so it's a glorious prospect to have regular football back.

I'm after signing up for gamepass too. How long before the 40 minute games normally appear?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We've got a history of keeping an undrafted rookie each year but we've got 3 who could make the team this year:

Quincy Adebayejo, who was carried off the field the other week but analysts at our practices have said he's the WR that's looked the best
Patrick Ricard, a DT/DE (to add to our production line of them) and could see us trading others with experience as he has apparently looked handy as fuck
Tim White, a WR who has been doing stuff like this all summer:

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Quincy looks like a lock, with Ricard not far behind. White has been a little disappointing on special teams which hurts his potential.

[Dan]

I'm after signing up for gamepass too. How long before the 40 minute games normally appear?

From memory of last year I think they're normally up by the next evening.

[Giggles]

Not too bad. I'd say there's only 2 or 3 a week I'd want to see anyway, and that seems punctual enough.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000827390/article/devonta-freeman-falcons-agree-on-fiveyear-contract-extension

Freeman now the most expensive paid RB (bar Le'Veon and his tag) which is pretty mental.

He's a good running back who can make explosive runs but he's not arguably not even in the top 10.

Helps Bell as it moves the RB contract value higher which increases his potential.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/item/475f0be8-7bd6-4e09-9e31-15f6b7f4b897

lol Australia.

Edit: To make it relevant have some Big Quince:

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[Browning]

But what do the NFL have to say about it?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

lol at me :face:

[Dan]

Just watched the first episode of Hard Knocks. Decent enough start, with the traditional rookie talent show being the obvious highlight, along with Jameis doing a brief turn as David Attenborough.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah I liked it a lot.

Seems that Jameis is either a pretty good actor or he's grown up a lot since his mental college days as he seems a nice chap now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000827496/article/jeremy-zuttah-cut-by-49ers-five-months-after-trade

And people questioned Ozzie when he let Zuttah go for so little.

We'll probably make a play and get him back for cheaper than he was on too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2017/8/10/16125280/ravens-restructure-jimmy-smiths-salary-create-5-15m-in-cap-space-austin-howard-contract?utm_campaign=baltimorebeatdown&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Jimmy Smith has restructured his contract to free up $5.15m in cap space.

[Dan]

Yeah I liked it a lot.

Seems that Jameis is either a pretty good actor or he's grown up a lot since his mental college days as he seems a nice chap now.

He was super into the rookie talent show too.

Nice to have preseason football back for real so we can start getting properly ready for another Patriots SuperBowl win. A few solid performers in the opener too...

As long as he's got the playbook down DeShaun Watson looks like the better option at QB for the Texans - much more dynamic than Savage, who just looked like a boring backup. D'Onta Foreman was impressive too, and might take a decent number of carries away from Lamar Miller this season, while on the other side Run CMC looked every bit as elusive as he's been talked up to be despite only really playing a basic role.

Kelvin Benjamin looked better in two catches than he did at any point last season, and the Texans DEF looks like it might've taken a downgrade in the secondary, but I suppose they're in the same boat as McCaffrey in that they're hiding most of the good stuff away until the regular season.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Woodrum went 4/4 for 85 yards and 1 TD.
Mallet went 9/18 for 58 yards.

Make the change.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and Tucker is still automatic.

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59 yards and still had plenty left.

[Giggles]

Eziekel Elliott. 6 game suspension.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000828558/article/ezekiel-elliott-suspended-six-games-by-nfl

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Woof.

Down to 4 on appeal?

[Browning]

Police don't charge him because she can't get her story straight (or that's what I'm assuming from how they've worded it) but the NFL still see fit to ban him for half a season.

Do they just hate having good players actually on the field?

[Giggles]

Sammy Watkins traded to Rams. Jordan Matthews to the Bills in a separate trade too.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000828580/article/bills-trade-sammy-watkins-to-rams-acquire-matthews

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I can understand the Watkins trade as they weren't happy with him but getting rid of Darby too?

Shareece Wright (who was crap for the Ravens last year), Charles James (who is a nice guy but not a brilliant player) and a rookie as their starters? They're going to be torn apart in the passing game.

Edit: Oh and Gaines.

Edit: By understand I mean they weren't likely to give him a contract in the summer or before but they didn't get much for him.

[Dan]

What a shit day for fantasy. Mostly for the Bills though - seems pretty horrible from them at first glance.

Not as horrible as losing to the Browns though :henn0rz:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think the trade should help Goff and Watkins but realistically Goff is trash and would look so even with prime Jerry Rice, plus Watkins is injury prone as hell.

I think it helps Jordan Matthews the most really as he should now be a number 1 with the team in terms of targets but he needs to finally do something.

[Gray Fox]

Catching and holding onto the ball would be a start.

[Browning]

Wasn't he already number one?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh yeah, I forgot that the Eagles brought him into be their number 1.

He didn't last long in that role and had to be moved to the slot.

[Gray Fox]

If you've been usurped by Alshon Jeffery, Torrey Smith and are looking at fighting Nelson fucking Agholor for a spot in the slot, you're better off just leaving to be fair.

I still laugh that he's related to Jerry Rice.

[Dan]

The way I see it, the only winners here are the Eagles.

Watkins is worse off since he now as Jared Goff throwing to him, while the Rams are worse off since they just gave up a CB & draft picks for a guy who will probably be injured half the season. The Bills have given up their only good WR & both of their good CBs in one offseason, and only have a couple of bargain bin replacements to make up for them. They do at least have a pile of extra draft picks in the first two days next year though, and Zay Jones might not be crippled as soon as someone blows on his foot.

The Eagles, meanwhile swap a guy who was hardly going to play for a much more talented guy who will start at a position of need, and only lose a third round pick for it. I guess Jordan Matthews wins too, but he'll probably be crap & the Bills will just join the Jets & Jags in the '100% Run' Club. Are we even sure he'll beat out the corpse of Anquan Boldin?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm with you.

I've heard a lot of people saying that the Rams have hit a home run with Watkins but it says a lot that the Bills didn't even pick up his fifth year option.

He's brittle as fuck and Goof is horrible.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

And we've now lost Tim White (the undrafted gem I've been talking about) for the season as well as our starting LG Alex Lewis \0/.

Talks with Zuttah to bring him back after the Lewis injury.

White apparently injured his thumb in the warm ups for the pre-season game but still played and caught a TD.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just spotted that Aguayo missed an extra point and a 47 yarder.

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Second round pick, lol.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Two early contenders to be cut on Hard Knocks there.

[Gray Fox]

They just cut Aguayo. :D

[Pleb]

Our fantasy draft is going to be fucking mental at this rate :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:harold:

When you can find ABSOLUTE DONS like Justin Tucker after the draft why would you ever spend more than a 6th round pick on one.

[Gray Fox]

From perfect college kicking career, to pretty much unsignable in just over a year. He's done well.

[Dan]

I can't wait for that episode of Hard Knocks :D

[Dan]

Just watching Saints/Browns. Good to see Osweiler still can't pass & Ginn still can't catch.

Slightly comforting to see we were playing our third string QB before the end of the first quarter, while the Browns had their starters out midway through the second quarter & still looked shit against our backup defence. Browns third team DEF could barely go a snap without being offside, so they're probably all getting cut.

Kizer looked no better than any of the other jobbers he's up against. Browns are still going to be in the market for a QB next year it seems. You can tell how starved Cleveland are of any success as they were going crazy at Kizer chucking a couple of bombs against the third string defence of once of the worse defences in the whole league.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've just realised that the whole experiment was actually even worse.


Kansas City traded this selection to Tampa Bay in exchange for Tampa Bay's third- and fourth-round selections (74th and 106th)

They traded up from 11th in the third round to ensure they got him giving up a fourth to make sure they got him.

[Dan]

So they basically wasted a second, third & fourth on Aguayo?! :D

[Dan]

Patriots look pretty safe for the future with Jimmy G. Even their backups look like they can play - Austin Carr & Jacob Hollister both looked good for undrafted rookies, and Brandon Bolden continues to look like the best fifth string RB in the league. Cyrus Jones had a nightmare, mind.

Corey Grant looks to be coming along well enough for TJ Yeldon to have to start worrying about his job, and Fournette did a nice job of smashing through the middle when he got the ball.

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Ryan Mallett cannot start for the Ravens. He's utter trash. As is Samaje Perine right now, sadly - looks like the camp reports of him being unable to block or hold the ball are accurate. I really can't decide whether Washington has an O-Line that can't run block or five different RBs who can't run the ball - there was pretty much no difference between Kelley, Perine, Thompson, Jones or Brown, although that may be in part down to getting dominated by the Ravens DEF.

[Giggles]

I'd read nothing into any preseason performances. Players are at about 30%.

[Ian]

I think my interest in pre-season extends to headlines and very little else.

[Gray Fox]

Pre-season is usually for giving the fringe players a shot in an actual game, with those not impressing getting the boot. Like our fallen hero Aguayo. He was given another chance and he pulled it, wide right.

[Browning]

So they basically wasted a second, third & fourth on Aguayo?! :D

No just the 3rd and 4th. They already used their 2nd.

[Dan]

I'd say the second round pick was wasted too, considering he's now jobless.

[Ian]

You can either look at it as them wasting a second rounder or a third and fourth, not all three.

Their other second-rounder is still with them.

[Giggles]

The Bears have claimed him.

[Spoonsky]

Thoughts on nobody taking Kaepernick?

[Giggles]

Idiocy, unless he's being prohibitive on price. He'd easily be the best backup in the league.

Interesting to see how Marshawn Lynch pans out now.

[Ian]

I'm with Giggles on Kaepernick. He's not going to get back to his best before people worked him out and I wouldn't expect anybody to take him as a starter but the sole reason he's not been signed is because he's dared to have an opinion just the wrong side of what's considered to be acceptable.

And that this is happening in a league where Michael Vick, say, got to work again is... I dunno what word best captures my feelings, but disgraceful would probably be fair.

Dog fighting? Cool. Batter your wife? No problem! Beat your kids with bits of wood? Sure thing, buddy!

Not indulge in mindless patriotism? Woah there, big guy, that's worrying.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think he's vastly overrated but at the same time there are backups that are a hell of a lot worse than him.

It's clear that he's been blackballed by the league because of the kneeling which is absolutely mental.

Hell, he'd actually be alright as a backup trying to imitate other running QB's so a defence is able to work it out better.

[Dan]

I'm with Giggles on Kaepernick. He's not going to get back to his best before people worked him out and I wouldn't expect anybody to take him as a starter but the sole reason he's not been signed is because he's dared to have an opinion just the wrong side of what's considered to be acceptable.

And that this is happening in a league where Michael Vick, say, got to work again is... I dunno what word best captures my feelings, but disgraceful would probably be fair.

Dog fighting? Cool. Batter your wife? No problem! Beat your kids with bits of wood? Sure thing, buddy!

Not indulge in mindless patriotism? Woah there, big guy, that's worrying.

This pretty much sums it up for me.

He's pretty crap, so he might not have got a job anyway if he's asking for stupid money, but you do get the feeling that it's almost exclusively because he has the insane belief that unarmed minorities shouldn't be shot by police officers. Without that somebody would take a punt on him - there's no way he'd be any worse than guys like Matt Schaub & Kellen Moore, or guys like Trevone Boykin & EJ Manuel if you want to look at guys that are more like him.

[McAvennie]

I think the bigger issue with him is that at this point you only bring him in if he's a clear upgrade on your starter, and I don't see any places in the league where it's that clear cut.

For sure he's close to several starting qbs, but if it's not cut and dried why take on the salary and the perceived baggage?

[Ian]

The concern is that there is perceived to be baggage at all. Has he ever had a real issue in terns of his professionalism?

A team draft Mixon or Tyreek Hill but Kaepernick is too worrying a prospect for them? C'mon.

[McAvennie]

The concern is that there is perceived to be baggage at all. Has he ever had a real issue in terns of his professionalism?

A team draft Mixon or Tyreek Hill but Kaepernick is too worrying a prospect for them? C'mon.

But that's exactly my point, Hill and Mixon upgrade their teams at their position, unless Kap is a lock to do that why take him on and deal with the perception.

I completely agree that his national anthem stance should be a non issue, particularly given that other players are expressing themselves the same way and are still playing

[Giggles]

I still think he could be better than a fair few starters in the league too. Some of his bad play is his own fault, but he had Chip Kelly which gives him a pass of sorts.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Apparently Jordan Matthews got injured 15 minutes into his first practice with the Bills :harold:

2-3 weeks out.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ryan Mathews has been cut.

Edit: I've just seen the whole 2010 RB class:

Spiller
Mathews
Jahvid Best
Dexter McCluster
Toby Gerhart
Ben Tate
Montario Hardesty
Joe McKnight
Anthony Dixon
Deji Karim
Jonathan Dwyer
James Starks
Charles Scott

All of them bar Spiller are without a club.

Undrafted RB's that year have fared better. Joique Bell (although he has no club now), Chris Ivory and Blount.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Chris Baker heckling the kickers :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Got a gamepass trial and just watched our game in 40 (great thing tbh).

Again, Woodrum outperformed Mallet and he looks so much more composed. It looks like he's actually in control of things.

Mallet: 13/22, 113 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT.
Woodrum: 8/10, 110 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT. 3 rushes, 15 yards, 2 TD.

Mallet looks shaky in the pocket whereas Woodrum looks like he belongs. I really hope we keep Woodrum as our number 2 but the staff usually play safe for a backup QB.

Also, Tucker is even fucking recovering fumbles on kick offs too.

And, Maxx Williams could be the real deal if he actually manages to stay healthy. No easy feat with our team.

Edit: Just seen that Folk missed a FG and a PAT. BRING BACK AGUAYO.

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I would have no faith in Mallet attempting that.

[Ian]

Condensed games are wonderful. If I'm watching a game sociably then sure, the full wankathon is fine but if it's just me I'd rather just get on with it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000831451/article/zach-orr-shuts-down-comeback-attempt-retires-again

Orr has officially retired again.

Makes sense really and was to be expected. He had a lot of interest and yet there was no deal for months.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000831459/article/ravens-sign-ol-jeremy-zuttah-to-twoyear-deal

Zuttah is back in Baltimore.

Money paid out indicates a starter but Jensen has been doing well. I assume Jensen will be kicked to left guard though.

[Gray Fox]

Apparently the Jags have finally cottoned on to Bortles being shit to the point that they view the QB job as now an open competition.

It might have something to do with Allen Robinson being in contract year, as well as big investments in both picks and recruits. But we all know they'll be back in the top 5 picks again next year looking down the barrel at another QB.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

New team but same old Aguayo:

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That might be the worst miss ever tbh.

[Giggles]

New team but same old Aguayo:

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That might be the worst miss ever tbh.

No miss from 49 yards is the worst miss ever.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

No miss from 49 yards is the worst miss ever.

It was how he missed it though.

[Ian]

It's not the worst miss ever, even if it is a weird, swervey shank of a hit. He'll have done worse himself.

[Gray Fox]

In terms of ease of kick and importance, Blair Walsh is the one that sticks in my mind.

Cundiff was also terrible but I remember him being further out.

[Dan]

Just catching up with some of the week two preseason games. Man, Kasen Williams has played himself onto the Seahawks roster already. Still going to be fifth WR at best, especially since all he's done is catch jump balls, but if he & Paul Richardson can both keep getting better each year they'll have a very nice group of recievers for the future.

Still don't think I've seen LaQuon Treadwell in the preseason though, which doesn't bode very well for his chances of making a big jump up the Vikings depth chart any time soon.

Also, Cooper Rush over Kellen 'The Limp-Armed Lefty' Moore all day. His fumble was spectacular. Stephen Morris looked better than Scott Tolzien too, not that either of them should really be near a starting job, even for one game.

EDIT: Anquan Boldin's retired. All going to shit for Buffalo. From memory I think they have Corey/Philly Brown as their most experienced reciever :D Just had a look & they also have Rod Streater (injured) & Andre Holmes (getting talked up by McDermott). WHAT A BUNCH OF STUDS.

[Gray Fox]

Don't forget newly aquired star WR Jordan Matthews!

[Dan]

Jordan Matthews/Zay Jones/??? does not do a whole lot to make me think Tyrod Taylor's going to ball out this year. Fingers crossed McCoy stays healthy, or else they're going to be one of the worst five teams in the league. They might be anyway, to be honest.

That division is going to even easier for the Patriots to steamroller than usual. They could probably play their defence & offence the wrong way round & still go 3-3.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tyrod will just run it himself.

[Dan]

Have we ever had a QB rush for 1000 yards? Tyrod might have to get there for the Bills to even get to 6 wins. Then again, he might get pulled for Nathan Peterman before the season ends.

EDIT: You know what, Jared Goff actually looked not shit this week. If Sammy Watkins stays healthy they might even be a bottom ten offence, rather than a bottom five one. Justin Davis needs to be on their roster too, he looks better than Gurley when he's out there, albeit he's against GUYS WHO WILL BE WORKING AT PAPAJOHNS NEXT MONTH rather than actual starting quality NFL players.

Nice to see Lynch managing a few carries without falling apart. The catch from Amari Cooper :drool:

[Dan]

Mike Glennon's attempt at tacking Honeybadger might be the most pathetic thing I've ever seen (https://streamable.com/grrft) :D

Deonte Thompson's FG return, however, was exquisite.

[Dan]

Catching up with the last couple of week 2 games. Josh Dobbs looks to be actively competing with Kellen Moore for the title of worst backup QB. Landry Jones has to be better, which is a terrifying thought for Steelers fans considering Big Ben is injured every third week.

John Conner looks lively though. First time I've seen him play & he already looks to have a bit of Lev Bell patience in him, which is ironic considering Bell hasn't even been there for him to learn it from. Shame he completely whiffed on a wide open catch with fifty yards of open space in front of him though.

Martavis looks to have come back into his old role, with a couple of run plays (that all failed miserably) & a deep catch (where it looked like he pushed off the CB). Still bodes well for the regular season, assuming he's actually allowed to play.

[Giggles]

Edelman is gone for the season.

[Limoutsonik]

Is too early to tell that the Seahawks look a bit formidable?Or is it just preseason afterglow?The line doesn't look a complete dumpster fire,Russ is firing in all cylinders and we possibly have Kasen Williams and Chris Carson who both have looked absolute dons so far.Thoughts?

[wullie]

I've got relatively high hopes this year, injuries really disrupted last.

[Gray Fox]

The Browns are 2-0 in pre-season having beaten the Saints and the Giants. Patriots 0-2 losing to the Texans and the Jaguars. Pay no attention to pre-season results/performances.

[Giggles]

For the first preseason ever Eddie Lacy doesn't look like Warren Sapp.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

For some reason the Jaguars have named Bortles starter for week 1.

It looked like Henne was looking like the starter.

I'd have signed Kaepernick, he's as good if not slightly better than both and would sell more shirts.

[Dan]

For week one, maybe. But when the Texans get three INTS it'll be Chad Henne's time to shine.

Add another one to the list of teams trying to get a QB in the first round of next year's draft - could end up with a quarter of the league fighting it out to try to nab one of the top guys if things fall right.

[Gray Fox]

Edelman is confirmed done for the season.

[Dan]

Can't rule out the possibility he doesn't play in New England again either. Speaking of which, they've just let Kony Ealy go as nobody would trade for him.

Onto week three games now & every time I watch Jacksonville I like Corey Grant more & more. They should really be going with him & Fournette as their main two guys, keeping Ivory to spell Fournette & cutting TJ Yeldon who's just awful. Also, what did Allen Hurns do to get himself buried down the depth chart?

Bortles throwing a pick & an intercepted 2pt try against backups is starter quality for sure.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Apparently Justin Tucker ran down a kick off, attempted a tackle (pushed the guy out of bounds) and is now in concussion protocol.

Last week he's recovering a fumble and trying to run it back, this week he's trying to run down his own kickoffs to ensure we don't give up yards.

Edit: It also seems that I've just started my 3rd free trial of Gamepass this preseason.

Edit: He laughs in the face of a concussion, he's back on the sidelines with his helmet.

[Gray Fox]

Just grabbed Tyrod off waivers and the Ravens smack his head into the floor. Dicks.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Our backup defenders are absolutely dicking on the Bills first team offence (bar Tyrod now).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Again Josh Woodum is showing why he should be our backup QB and the same with Jaylen Hill but as our starting nickel corner.

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Just got his second pick of the pre-season.

[Dan]

I'm pretty sure the Bills first team offence is equivalent to an average second string at this point, so putting them up against any of the Ravens defensive units is probably still a mismatch in Baltimore's favour.

Justin Tucker needs to calm down a bit. He's going to want to play linebacker next week.

[Gray Fox]

I'm starting to worry about a McCoy in R1 pick. He's obviously great, but he may have the Todd Gurley problem in which all other teams knew the Rams were going to run it so stack the box. The Bills don't seem to have a lot else.

[Dan]

Yeah, same. They really need to go out & get another WR that can actually be a threat, because Jordan Matthews, Zay Jones, Corey Brown & Andre Holmes are going to do nothing to scare anybody.

Having said that, they didn't really have anything last year either while Sammy was injured, and McCoy still did well. He's also pretty good at turning plays that should be losses into small gains, so he could well still have another elite year in him despite all the odds being stacked against him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Shady is more elusive which helps and he can actually catch the ball, which Gurley can't do.

[Gray Fox]

Cameron Meridiths knee just bent a way his knee is not supposed to bend.

Be surprised if he plays this season.

[Dan]

Jordan Howard is going to see a fuckton of stacked boxes then.

Chris Johnson had a horrible game last night - two fumbles & a dropped catch inside the first ten minutes of play.

[Gray Fox]

Damn I had high hopes for Howard too.

901862075009511426 :sick:

[Dan]

TIME FOR KEVIN WHITE TO SHINE or get injured again!

White, Victor Cruz, Markus Wheaton & Ruben Randle is pretty close to the Bills unit in terms of sheer depth of nothingness.

EDIT: Having watched pretty much every team's local coverage through these preseason games, I've got to say that the Bucs easily have the best score display, although the constant 'unsheathing sword' sound effect gets annoying after a while.

Browns defence looks to be going the way of the Saints defence & going from horrible to below average this season. Kizer just looks like he wants to throw everything deep though. He's starting week one too, so we'll see how that works out.

[Foe]

Going to be interesting for osweiller when he gets cut. He can probably get a backup gig at another team or can spend the year on holiday. The offset language in his contract means he's getting 16 mill regardless of what happens.alrhough getting beat out by tom savage, deshone kizer and a limp hero in Peyton doesn't shine his resume much.

[Giggles]

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Stunning.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.cincyjungle.com/platform/amp/2017/8/27/16213030/vontaze-burfict-facing-5-game-suspension-for-hit-in-bengals-vs-chiefs-preseason-game

Burfict likely out for 5 games.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Seems like it's been a while since a Ravens injury, so have one today:

Albert McClellan is out for the year after tearing his ACL.

He started 11 games last year and was a special teams specialist.

Opens the door for one of two UDFA those (we could be looking at 5 or 6 in our 53 this year).

[Dan]

About time really.

The Bills are continuing their fire sale, sending Reggie Ragland to the Chiefs for a 2019 fourth rounder. Meanwhile, the Jets have claimed Kony Ealy off waivers after he was cut by the Pats.

I also quite liked the news that Lev Bell is reporting to the Steelers just in time for a three day break :D He's going to have almost zero practice with the team before week 1.

[Pleb]

In before Lev-Bell goes on a fantasy points spree...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gone a bit mental and ordered some 'jerseys'.

I wanted Bowser but there wasn't a shirt (customisable player/number) with my size so I ended up ordering a Mosley colour rush shirt, a Brandon Williams home shirt and a black hoodie with Bowser's name on the back.

Also bought a hat so I'll look like a proper fan at Wembley.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

About time really.

The Bills are continuing their fire sale, sending Reggie Ragland to the Chiefs for a 2019 fourth rounder. Meanwhile, the Jets have claimed Kony Ealy off waivers after he was cut by the Pats.

I also quite liked the news that Lev Bell is reporting to the Steelers just in time for a three day break :D He's going to have almost zero practice with the team before week 1.

Ragland was only drafted (for a second round) last year too.

They really want to tank it for high value picks.

I'm surprised we didn't trade for him, we could do with a MLB to start alongside Mosley (Correa the expected starter has been poor) and he went to BAMA.

[Dan]

In before Lev-Bell goes on a fantasy points spree...

Well he is playing the Browns in week one...


Gone a bit mental and ordered some 'jerseys'.

I wanted Bowser but there wasn't a shirt (customisable player/number) with my size so I ended up ordering a Mosley colour rush shirt, a Brandon Williams home shirt and a black hoodie with Bowser's name on the back.

Also bought a hat so I'll look like a proper fan at Wembley.

Where did you get them from? I keep wanting to get some stuff but (a) it's so expensive, and (b) I don't really know what I'd get. Coming up to my 30th birthday though (:uhoh:), so maybe I'll chuck something on the list this year.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

American shop because I'm too fat for the European one :(

Expensive as fuck though.

[Ian]

Gone a bit mental and ordered some 'jerseys'.

I wanted Bowser but there wasn't a shirt (customisable player/number) with my size so I ended up ordering a Mosley colour rush shirt, a Brandon Williams home shirt and a black hoodie with Bowser's name on the back.

Also bought a hat so I'll look like a proper fanny at Wembley.

[Insert your own 'fixed' variant here]

How much did you fork out on all that!?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

[Insert your own 'fixed' variant here]

How much did you fork out on all that!?

Too much, especially as I won't really wear them too much.

I'm awful with money.

[Gray Fox]

The American NFL shop is still way superior to the NFL Europe store.

Fansedge used to be great, it still is if you want college football stuff, but it just has the same stock at the US NFL store now.

You can pick up some proper bargains if you keep checking there. Last year after we traded Murray to the Titans, they reduced everything with his name on it. They listed one of the elite jerseys of his (usually $300) for $10. I snapped it up quick. The shipping on it was $25 I believe, so I got it to me for just under £30.

[Ian]

I bought a hideous orange Miller jersey at Wembley. It's the second Broncos Jersey I've had but I only spent about five quid on the first one in total so I didn't begrudge it too much.

[Dan]

Why don't the Cowboys use Brice Butler more? He's always looked like a far better receiver than Terrance Williams, and seems to consistently do well in the Dez role when given a chance, but yet he seems to be permanently stuck with the second string while Williams does nothing but run block pretty well.

EDIT: Browns are apparently trying to trade both Cam Erving & Joe Haden, as well as Brock. I guess none of them should be that surprising, given that Erving has been poor, Haden is on way too much money for his current level, and Osweiler is super-expensive garbage, but it does seem like the Bills, Jets & Browns are actively competing to see who can have the most picks next year.

At this rate they might end up being the only three teams picking in 2018. They'd probably all still botch it, mind.

---

Also talk that Zeke might play week one, even if he loses his appeal today, as he might do a Brady & take it to court.

[Browning]

Matt Stafford, a man whose entire career has been "launch this aimlessly up in the air and hope Megatron can somehow catch it", is now the highest paid player in the NFL.

Fucking hell.

[Dan]

QB money :drool: You forgot 'whip it two yards to Golden Tate' though.

I'm really not looking forward to the point where the season starts & it turns out our defence hasn't improved as much as preseason suggests. I also hope the motherfucker blowing a whistle loudly for the entire Saints/Texans game is never allowed in any sporting event ever. Almost vuvuzela levels of annoying :mad:

EDIT: Steelers have traded a 4th rounder for Vance McDonald & a 5th. Maybe that Bruce Miller pick isn't so bad after all...

[Gray Fox]

Zeke taking his appeal to Brady levels would be hell for Fantasy players. He'd be fine to start the season but could have a season ending ban hit him any time.

[Dan]

49ers looked pretty good last night, particularly as the defence seems to be on the way back to being a top unit - Reuben Foster & Eric Reid were smacking Vikings all over the field.

Stefon Diggs, however, was a shambles. Two dropped passes that hit him right in the chest.

[Foe]

The Browns just cut Joe Haden.

:cab:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Not that surprising.

He had a few mediocre seasons and they had been trying to trade him for a couple of seasons.

What is surprising is that no one offered them something, they still have loads of cap space too so could have held on.

[Foe]

Not that surprising.

He had a few mediocre seasons and they had been trying to trade him for a couple of seasons.

What is surprising is that no one offered them something, they still have loads of cap space too so could have held on.

If they've got loads of cap space it doesn't make much sense really. Unless they think they have someone better, who is also cheaper.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've read that they have an undrafted guy that they really like.

Also read that the cap hit is only 4m this year though which helped their decision. They'd have dicked on their cap space had he not gone this year.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/platform/amp/2017/8/30/16228074/zachary-orr-joining-ravens-to-work-with-coaching-staff-former-linebacker-all-pro

Nicely done.

[Dan]

The Browns just cut Joe Haden.

:cab:

I was going to come in and make a crack about how only teams with shit defences would be interested in him, so I'll be looking forward to seeing him play for the Saints this season. Apparently we are in fact interested :D

In other news, the Chiefs (another team interested in Haden, along with the Steelers) have given Cleveland a 5th round pick for Cam Erving; Cameron Meredith 'only' has a torn ACL & a partially torn MCL, despite which Victor Cruz is still unlikely to make the roster; the Zeke trial is going at least til Thursday as a key witness isn't available, and the Packers have signed Ahmad Brooks.

Best of all though, the Hamilton Tiger-Cats of the Canadian Football League rejected Johnny Manziel after a try-out as he wasn't fit enough, mentally or physically.

[Foe]

The Browns just cut Joe Haden.

:cab:

...and he's signed with the Steelers. Takes some pressure off artie burns I suppose.

[Dan]

Jesus, that was quick.

EDIT: Redskins offence has looked utterly hideous through the first three games. Pryor's drop when he was wide open with half the field in front of him was almost as bad as Diggs' two shockers. Kirk Cousins chasing down Vontaze Burfict after throwing a pick was potential suicide - I wouldn't have been surprised if Burfict had stopped just to be able to destroy him before scoring.

[Foe]

The Lions have shipped Laken Tomlinson (former 1st rounder, c. 28th pick) to the 49ers for a 5th rounder.

Quite a lot of teams giving up on first round picks the last few days.

[Dan]

I wish Hard Knocks didn't end every episode with the players watching Game of Thrones :D

[Giggles]

I hate the way the audio goes out of sync every week on fucking Gamepass.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I wish Hard Knocks didn't end every episode with the players watching Game of Thrones :D

I want more of that.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Interestingly, Woodrum only got a couple more snaps that Mallet did.

I so hope that we stick with him rather than the experience as Woodrum flashed a lot of potential at times.

I can see us keeping quite a few undrafted guys this year (Jaylen Hill who might be our starting nickel corner, Patrick Ricard who was signed as a DE/DT but has found a home playing at FB and Bam Bradley who has really done well on special teams and at MLB).

Could even seen 'Smoke' Mizell make the team.

We also have a player (Maurice Canady) who needs to be on the team after the cut deadline and some people are reporting that we'll take a chance on cutting Zuttah before bringing him back.

Oh and Carl Davis has fought hard to be on the team, this pretty much sealed it:

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[McAvennie]

I am trying hard not to be caught up in Mahomes mania, given that it's just pre season and all, but he is looking a bit like the love child of Favre and Rodgers.

I brace myself for the inevitable disappointment :)

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Zuttah and Donnell our two biggest cuts so far, both were expected.

Also traded a 7th pick for a tackle.

[Dan]

Seahawks get Sheldon Richardson from the Jets for Jermaine Kearse, a second round pick & a seventh round pick swap.

Jets making one last move to establish themselves as the preseason favourites for the first overall draft pick.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They've been trying to deal him for a couple of years.

[Dan]

Osweiler's apparently being cut, in another not very shocking move.

[Browning]

Snead's been handed a 3 game ban. Not sure why NFL.com hasn't reported it yet.

[Dan]

Substance abuse. Originally 4 but dropped on appeal. Surprising it didn't come out earlier really.

[Foe]

Read a hard knocks spoiler on NFL.com accidentally. Beware reading the "notable cuts" piece.

Couple of interesting moves though. Sammie Coates getting turfed to Cleveland and the panthers waiving / attempting to deal their punters and kickers.

[Dan]

Does it really count as a spoiler if it's reality?

[Foe]

True. I try to avoid the info before the show though so didn't post what it was. Assume others do they same.

[Dan]

Nevermind that, I've just seen the trade the Colts & Patriots made :drool:

EDIT: I've also just seen the Hard Knocks spoiler...

[Foe]

Some great college games on tonight. Michigan Florida is on espn right now and Alabama Florida state on after it.

Quality to have it back.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sadly Woodrum has been cut but we have kept 3 undrafted rookies (Jaylen Hill, Patrick Ricard and Bam Bradley) with the team which is pretty cool.

[Ian]

So we get rid of Sloter who'd looked good in limited time in pre-season (I know, I know), we bring back sodding Osweiler and get rid of TJ Ward on the same day.

The only solace is I can take some amusement from the fact that 18 months after he left we're giving Osweiler about ten percent of what he wanted when he left, by the sounds of it. Also that Elway is so high on Lynch (or high on not being made to look like he picked a duffer) that as soon as he's back Osweiler may well get the boot again.

[Foe]

Just imagine Siemian gets injured in week 1. Just. imagine.

[Ian]

We should re-sign Jake Plummer for a few weeks, just to be safe.

The Snake. :drool:

[Gray Fox]

Elway must really know something the rest of us don't...

[Foe]

To be fair, it's a very cheap solution to a problem he had. I think it's smart business in some respects.

He knows the offence, basically will accept next to no salary because he's being paid by Cleveland anyway, isn't going cause much controversy because he's effectively third string and most likely gone when Pax returns and has a point to prove that he can still play.

It would be hilarious though if that's what the Broncos have to revert to.

[Dan]

Just catching up with some of the week two preseason games. Man, Kasen Williams has played himself onto the Seahawks roster already.


Brandon Allen could be a real speculative shot in Jacksonville.

Nevermind.

Williams has been picked up by the Browns though, as has Mahow's boy Josh Woodrum, so they're definitely making some nice progress.

Around the rest of the league, the Saints have picked up Austin Carr, Indy have taken Matt Jones, Will Tye has swapped NY teams,

[Browning]

Any news on Gano, I have him in one fantasy league and am interested to see if he lands in a good spot.

[Dan]

Seems to still be on the Panthers at the minute.

[Foe]

Bit of college football stuff but...

Deondre Francois (FSU QB) took a brutal looking hit to the knees and could be fucked.
Bama have a freshman RB who's an absolute monster, scary prospect all around (number 22, forget his name). This Bama team doesn't look that great, but they'll still be there or there abouts. They're beatable, FSU basically gifted them 14 points and the game.
Potential number 1 pick overall Wyoming QB Josh Allen isn't going to have it easy this year, Wyoming took a beating from Iowa.
Texas still suck.
Malik Zaire at Florida (QB) is complete shit. If he gets drafted next year god help the team that takes him.

I fucking love football season. :wub:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Woodrum :(

No idea why he was cut in favour of Mallet.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

'Smoke' Mizell has gone to the Bears too :\

He's better than Buck Allen who we kept.

[Dan]

You've got Alex Collins now instead, as the Seahawks let him go. Bears have waived Langford too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Got my ticket today for Ravens/Jags :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just grabbed Tyrod off waivers and the Ravens smack his head into the floor. Dicks.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000838893/article/bills-qb-tyrod-taylor-remains-in-concussion-protocol

He's still in concussion protocol.

Don't mess with our defence this year, fools.

[Browning]

So who here has Game Pass that can answer something for me?

It says you can get 25% off with the code when you sign up, but it only lets me sign up for a "7 day free trial" and I can't use the code for the trial (obviously) but I'm fairly certain it'll just charge me the full price at the end of the trial. Is there a way I can pay for it now and use the code? I might just be being blind.

[Giggles]

I wouldn't bother yet anyway, it's been shite so far. I really regret paying up.

[Browning]

For me it's that or shitty streams of Red Zone as I don't have Sky Sports or anything.

I've tried to cancel the trial, but it seems to still be letting me access it, so I guess that "cancel trial" means "Don't renew" and hopefully I get the option to put the code in when I purchase.

[Giggles]

Some games have been scrambled, some have been the wrong game. Most of the shows like Hard Knocks go badly out of audio sync the longer the show goes on, and the compressed 40 minute games sometimes take days to appear.

Just make sure you give it a good try out during the trial and see if it's worth paying for.

[Browning]

Fair enough, thanks for the heads up. As long as I can get Red Zone at a reasonable quality it'll be worth the £63 or whatever it is with the discount. I'm kind of sick of watching it every week through streams that die every so often and are shit quality and even when they aren't, they're typically behind so my fantasy leagues tell me stuff that's going to happen before I see it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've only tried the trial (3 times) but it really annoyed me.

No PS4 app and nothing on Amazon Fire which was seriously weak.

[Browning]

Supposedly there is a PS4 app if you put in a US address, so I may look into that.

[Giggles]

Needs an Android TV app too. Fuck casting.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Supposedly there is a PS4 app if you put in a US address, so I may look into that.

I downloaded the one on my account linked to US PSN (with address) and it didn't work.

[Browning]

That's shit then.

I mean I'd likely watch it on my Laptop anyway, but I would like the option to watch it on there.

[Giggles]

Just announced that Miami v Tampa won't be played in Miami because of a hurricane. No word yet on whether it moves venue this Sunday or gets postponed until later in the season.

[Dan]

I've not had any real issues with GamePass, save for not being able to go to a specific play by selecting it from a list like you could last year.

The Xbox app works fine - used it on my 360 & now on my One.

[Browning]

I've not had any real issues with GamePass, save for not being able to go to a specific play by selecting it from a list like you could last year.

The Xbox app works fine - used it on my 360 & now on my One.

Do you have any idea how I sign up? I'll probably wait until I see how it works on Sunday anyway, but the only option I see is to start a trial and when I click that it fails because I'm already in a trial. Will that change when my trial ends? I would have paid £85 but if there's a 25% off offer I'm not going to miss out on it by letting it renew at full price (which I assume it would as it never let me input the code).

[Dan]

Not sure, to be honest - auto-renewed mine from last year. When does your trial run out? Seems odd that there isn't a way to upgrade to the paid version early.

[Browning]

In a week, I guess. I only just did it. I pressed cancel (don't really care about the trial) but it hasn't cancelled so I'm assuming it just won't renew. I'm going to be pissed if it runs out and then I have no option to sign up.

Edit- I tried to contact them to confirm and it just took me to a blank page when I hit submit and I've received no automated email to say they got it. This is going so well. It's like they don't want my money.

[Foe]

EZE is getting his six game suspension but can play this Sunday.

What's he even suspended for? Seems an odd one in that from what I can tell he's been suspended for something that he wasn't convicted for (i.e. charges dropped). How the hell does that work?

[Browning]

While that's shite and probably turns 2 wins into 2 losses for me in fantasy this week.

I seem to have Game Pass to work though. As soon as my trial officially cancelled I was able to add another one and the code worked, so if I let it renew it'll be £63. Not too bad.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

EZE is getting his six game suspension but can play this Sunday.

What's he even suspended for? Seems an odd one in that from what I can tell he's been suspended for something that he wasn't convicted for (i.e. charges dropped). How the hell does that work?

They're shit scared after the Ray Rice incident.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Our depth chart for the first week has thrown up a couple of interesting things.

Boyle is listed as the number 1 TE with Maxx Williams as number 3, which should be switched really. Might be like that as Boyle could be our starting fullback (along with defensive tackle Patrick Ricard) and we play 2 TE sets so Maxx will be a starter anyway.

Correa, who was favoured all along, has won the starting MLB position despite looking shaky during the pre-season.

Jaylen Hill, who was amazing in the preseason, is seemingly behind everyone at the CB spot but I think he will take over the starting nickel position soon enough as Webb is shit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000839621/article/buccaneersdolphins-game-rescheduled-for-week-11

Week 11 for Dolphins/Bucs so no bye for them.

[bruhnaldo]

Nothing like playing in London then playing the week right after yayyy

[Gray Fox]

EZE is getting his six game suspension but can play this Sunday.

What's he even suspended for? Seems an odd one in that from what I can tell he's been suspended for something that he wasn't convicted for (i.e. charges dropped). How the hell does that work?

Imagine it being like if you kicked off in a pub and got barred. There might not be enough evidence for the police to have you but they can stop you entering the companies pubs all they want.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Latest Hard Knocks has made me like Mike Evans even more. Such a good, likeable chap.

[Giggles]

If he wasn't recognised he'd probably be on death row by now.

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[Foe]

Season kicks off tonight with Chiefs @ Patriots.

Got it set to record, but can't see anything but a Patriots win. Pats, minus Edelman should still be pretty solid at Gillette. Thoughts?

[bruhnaldo]

Patriots gonna win 31-14

[Bartholomert]

Patriots gonna win 31-14

Threw $25 on Chiefs +9 because I'm an idiot who is irrationally annoyed by the Patriots.

[Dan]

If he wasn't recognised he'd probably be on death row by now.

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I don't like the language he's used in that statement - it's very emotive & designed to sway people to his side, rather than to portray the incident in fair, balanced way.

Having said that, I can completely believe that it happened as described, and I'm on his side in the whole thing.


Season kicks off tonight with Chiefs @ Patriots.

Got it set to record, but can't see anything but a Patriots win. Pats, minus Edelman should still be pretty solid at Gillette. Thoughts?

Yeah, Pats will win easily in the end, but hopefully it'll be close for the first few quarters. I'm tempted to watch it live, but I'm already in for a 16 hour day with work & cinema, so I don't fancy adding a whole night with hardly any sleep on top of that. Might try to sneak in a nap shortly or something.

[Pleb]

As long as Amendola starts and gets the ball a lot then I'm all over the Pats.

[bruhnaldo]

Threw $25 on Chiefs +9 because I'm an idiot who is irrationally annoyed by the Patriots.

Could've just paypal'd me $25 my boy

[Bartholomert]

If he wasn't recognised he'd probably be on death row by now.

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Probability that this is what actually happened is a strong 0%

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Browns have cut Calvin Pryor for fighting with a teammate and CJ Spiller has been cut by the Chiefs.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Marky Mark :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's pretty lol seeing Kareem Hunt fumbling on his very first pro carry.