The NFL Thread

[Dan]

How the fuck did that Rodgers-Montgomery handoff not result in either of them fumbling? :cab:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's a quality pick by Heath.

[Dan]

Cracking pick indeed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's pretty mental that Witten hadn't scored a TD in the playoffs before now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Clay Matthews got donned senseless there.

[Dan]

That was a filthy spin move :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

And gets run over by Dak for the 2 points, lol.

Balls, it was Ryan instead :(

[Gray Fox]

Only Rodgers can save the Packers here.

[Gray Fox]

That's one hell of a kick.

If the Packers defence has anything left now, it's time to make plays. I see nothing but a Cowboys TD here though.

[Gray Fox]

35 seconds to go 50 yards with 2 timeouts. He could, but he wont.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's a brilliant throw but a bonkers sideline catch.

[Gray Fox]

Get fucked Cowboys.

Tough to see anyone stopping the NFC offenses left now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Didn't think that would sneak in.

I wouldn't have minded OT.

[Dan]

That was depressingly inevitable :moop:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Also, I've just found out that Jerry Jones 'made a deal with God' and said if the win Superbowl 30 he'd never ask to win the Superbowl again.

They've never made it past the divisional playoffs since with their record standing at 3-9.

GOD HAS RAPED JERRY JONES ONCE AGAIN.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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It's just so damn good.

[Giggles]

He has plenty of time to watch it next week :drool:

[Ian]

I went to the 'NFL UK Live' show in Glasgow tonight. Reynolds, Reinebold, Gayle, Morstead, Christian Kersey off've the Browns and some guy from the Rams who was only in a couple of bits whose names I thought was either somebody Maddox or Maddox somebody but who I can't find.

Some Q&A and some silly stuff but it was free and quite enjoyable. None of that irritating present woman either.

Would have loved a surprise appearance from Kev, or to see him pitching a stall outside selling The Cadle Will Rock.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Christian Kirksey :cool:

Bit of a hero for Madden players, he was a glitch in 15 and was dubbed the Tiny Titan for being so small and for being on the wrong team:

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/untitled-6.jpg

http://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/christian-kirksey-glitch.gif?w=640&h=360

http://i.imgur.com/0bwMtEa.gif

He was fixed and brilliant on Madden 16 though.

Shit that Big Kev wasn't there though.

[Ian]

Yeah, they showed the clip of him in Madden.

Kirksey was in good form, actually. He ended up having a bit of a back-and-forth across the night with a Steelers fan who was there, Terrible Towel in hand.

[Giggles]

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[Dan]

Zach Orr is retiring due to a serious injury.

'how :console:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

He was playing brilliantly this year, his first year starting, and it looked like he and Mosley were going to be our MLB partnership for years.

9th in tackles this year (would have finished higher if he played the last game) with only Jordan Hicks and Mosley getting more interceptions at the position.

Glad he found out before anything serious happened to him (it all sounds pretty scary) and it's kind of good that at least he goes out on a high note after joining the league undrafted.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000777187/article/colts-fire-gm-ryan-grigson-after-five-seasons

Grigson has been fired.

Colts will become relevant again.

[Waffdon]

#GoPackGo

[niko_cee]

Offensive duels.

:yawn:

[Giggles]

This is going to get messy. Packers can't cover anyone.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I thought it was at 9, ugh.

[niko_cee]

It's going to be done by 9.

[Giggles]

It's going to be done by 9.

It was done last Sunday.

[Waffdon]

Atlanta's offence is too fast.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Why are they all sitting on a sofa around a coffee table?

Show some fucking professionalism.

Probably going to have Neil in a onesie laying down by the time the second game rolls around.

[niko_cee]

Stick a fork in this one.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Good night.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Defence couldn't be fucked there.

What the fuck was that?

[Dan]

This is lovely so far :drool:

[Gray Fox]

This could get very ugly.

[Dan]

Dat sack :harold:

[Waffdon]

Bye Pack Bye.

[niko_cee]

It's probably a bit late, but Green Bay really ought to have been gong for it on every 4th down. Doesn't matter if they give Atlanta the ball on their 10 yard line, or their own 10 yard line, the outcome is going to be largely the same.

Atlanta have absolutely murdered them on 3rd down. Have they missed one yet?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's probably a bit late, but Green Bay really ought to have been gong for it on every 4th down. Doesn't matter if they give Atlanta the ball on their 10 yard line, or their own 10 yard line, the outcome is going to be largely the same.

Atlanta have absolutely murdered them on 3rd down. Have they missed one yet?
One.

[Gray Fox]

This needs JR commentary already. Has anyone been shutout in a championship game before?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

This needs JR commentary already. Has anyone been shutout in a championship game before?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940_NFL_Championship_Game

A couple of decades before the Superbowl was invented.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985%E2%80%9386_NFL_playoffs#NFC_Championship:_Chi cago_Bears_24.2C_Los_Angeles_Rams_0

Bears again over the Rams.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978%E2%80%9379_NFL_playoffs#NFC_Championship:_Dal las_Cowboys_28.2C_Los_Angeles_Rams_0

Cowboys over the Rams.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971%E2%80%9372_NFL_playoffs#AFC_Championship:_Mia mi_Dolphins_21.2C_Baltimore_Colts_0

Dolphins over the Colts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982%E2%80%9383_NFL_playoffs#AFC_Championship:_Mia mi_Dolphins_14.2C_New_York_Jets_0

Dolphins over the Jets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986%E2%80%9387_NFL_playoffs#NFC_Championship:_New _York_Giants_17.2C_Washington_Redskins_0

Giants over the Redskins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000%E2%80%9301_NFL_playoffs#NFC_Championship:_New _York_Giants_41.2C_Minnesota_Vikings_0

Giants over the Vikings.

Few more pre-Superbowl formation too.

[Gray Fox]

More common than I thought! Both of our NFL titles were shutouts too.

[niko_cee]

57 running plays for 382 yards.

Imagine being a fan of the 'slight favourite' Redskins turning up to see that.

[Dan]

Julio :alan:

What a beast. End this game already.

[Waffdon]

Julio...

Meh goad

[Gray Fox]

Julio doing Julio tings.

[Pleb]

What in the actual fuck is going on? :serious:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Decided to put £5 on either Julio or Freeman to score 2 TD's.

I went for Freeman :moop:

Although that should be 1 for him.

[Dan]

We could have a seriously good SuperBowl if the Steelers win later.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mon little man, get a second.

[Pleb]

:D

Karma...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lang looks done.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

In the 5, Freeman on the bench.

Wankers.

[Gray Fox]

What odds did you get?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

4.75.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and they were lucky that they couldn't be arsed challenging that.

Ripkowski has the hand strength of a new born which is a bit stunning for someone who can grow a beard as good as his.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Alford :D

He should have gone to the ground to complete it.

[Gray Fox]

You might be in with a shot at a Freeman TD here.

[Giggles]

Outstanding.

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh he actually did go to ground. Hero.

Lewis would be physically sick seeing Terry Bradshaw's 'hair'. Shave it mate.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Coates can't catch for shit.

[Pleb]

Horrific defending there.

Patriots have got this.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The protection on that play was obscene.

Fuck knows how Hogan got that open though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hogan > Julio.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The run before Blount got the TD was brilliant.

[Dark Soldier]

This is fucking beautiful. I'm a full on casual fan, but shit me this is a destruction.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Christ, that's so damn good.

[Bartholomert]

Tbh today was such a let down

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Reports coming out that Bridgewater might miss next season too.

[Giggles]

:harold:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've found something good about the Pro Bowl.

Justin Tucker pissing about:

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Through a basketball hoop from 60 yards.

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Kicking one casually from 75.

[Giggles]

The skills thing was fun enough watching. Better than the game will be tonight anyway.

[Giggles]

I've found something good about the Pro Bowl.

Justin Tucker pissing about:

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Through a basketball hoop from 60 yards.

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Kicking one casually from 75.

That kick hit the post though, not through the hoop. And didn't someone else kick a longer one than 75 too?

EDIT: Matt Prater, 76.

[Ian]

Imagine actually watching the Pro Bowl.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That kick hit the post though, not through the hoop. And didn't someone else kick a longer one than 75 too?

EDIT: Matt Prater, 76.

There are 3 hoops, look at the posts. It went through.

Prater is a chump though, a real man ups it by at least 5. What the fuck is this bullshit by bettering it by 1?

Tucker probably nailed one in practice from 80 and will upload the proof soon.

It also took Prater 3 days after Tucker nailed it from 75 to do 76.

[Giggles]

76>75.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

97.4% (1 miss) > 86.1% (5 misses)
100% on PAT's > 93.9% (2 misses) on PAT's
100% of votes for All-Pro > No votes for All-Pro.

Tucker > Everyone else.

[Gray Fox]

Triggered.

[Giggles]

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Dem moves :drool:

Beckham wasn't bad either.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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He is a god.

[Giggles]

John Lynch straight from player to TV to GM is an odd one.

[Browning]

Fairly sure that catch alone makes him the best receiver the Ravens have.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

John Lynch straight from player to TV to GM is an odd one.
Yep, I've been scratching my head at that one. Jed York is a farcical owner.

Fairly sure that catch alone makes him the best receiver the Ravens have.
You're probably right.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Thursday morning for pre-sale Ravens tickets.

I think I'm going to target a category 2 or 3 ticket.

[Browning]

Where are those? I'll have the same seats as the last 2 years.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://i.imgur.com/ZYOKvIP.png

Sideline.

[Gray Fox]

I wanted to go to one of the Wembley games, but the majority has ruled it would be 'proper lol' to go to the Browns game. Just...why?

[Browning]

Ah, mine are in the pink bit. Pretty decent view but obviously it's better when the action is down my end.

[Browning]

I wanted to go to one of the Wembley games, but the majority has ruled it would be 'proper lol' to go to the Browns game. Just...why?

Fuck that. Wembley is far better than Twickenham. I'm tempted to flog my Browns ticket.

[Giggles]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w8n0L3uUCE

Eli :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bought my ticket.

Section BK 501 Row 5 Seat 25 :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Almost as bad as his Lego hair.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000782874/article/ladainian-tomlinson-among-seven-hall-of-fame-inductees

Great to see Warner and TD finally make it.

Terrell Owens being kept out again is brilliant.

Worst thing is Jerry Jones making it, the cunt.

[Gray Fox]

No Weapon X makes me a sad panda. No T.O. makes up for that slightly.

[Ian]

Terrell Davis. :cool:

I know we've had the conversation in here before but his playoffs record really is a bit daft.

Morten Anderson making it is brilliant too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000783067/article/terrell-owens-reacts-to-not-making-hall-of-fame-class

https://twitter.com/terrellowens?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

The seethe is real :harold:

I love how he's retweeting and replying to almost every single tweet (christ I hate myself for that sentence) regarding him not making the HOF.

[Giggles]

It's a joke that Owens isn't in.

[Gray Fox]

And it's a great one, isn't it? :D

[Giggles]

Finally shows up, even though we all knew, that it's not all about on-field performance. No matter how much the committee bleat on that it is.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

There's a rookie that will apparently be drafted this year who will come in quite high on the most mental NFL name list.

Takkarist McKinley.

I honestly have no idea what that first name is meant to be.

[wullie]

I just pray that Kobe Buffalomeat makes it to the big leagues.

[Dan]

Victor Cruz & Rashad Jennings have been cut by the Giants.

[Foe]

Matt Elam won't be back with the ravens, and he's decided to make free agency as much of a challenge for himself as he can.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000787926/article/ravens-matt-elam-arrested-on-multiple-drug-charges

Top work.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

There wasn't a hope in hell that he was going to stay. He was lucky to get last season at the club.

He's been fucking horrible since Day 1 after being labelled as 'The Next Ed Reed'.

[Foe]

Adrian Peterson is hitting free agency.

To the Texans please.

The cowboys don't need him any more and I think he fancies Texas.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Eric Berry 6 years, $78m which makes him the highest paid safety and gives a nice 'ending' after beating cancer.

Eddie Lacy thinks he might be staying in Green Bay, he clearly loves the cheese.

Antonio Brown has been given a 4 year extension worth $68m.

Browns have given Isiah Crowell a second round tender which should see him stay.

Giants have tagged JPP, he said in January that he wouldn't sign a 1 year deal so could expect some resistance there.

Steelers have tagged Bell.

Panthers have tagged Kawann Short.

[Limoutsonik]

Jamaal Charles AND Adrian Peterson?How lucky are the GM's right now that can choose from either from them?I just hope "my" Seahawks pick either one for veteran status.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

Browns better not make a play for one.

Can see the Niners paying a crapton for one of them.

[Pleb]

Jamaal Charles will be forever my number one fantasy pick that I didn't want to pick in the first place :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000788320/article/redskins-put-exclusive-franchise-tag-on-kirk-cousins

Cousins has been tagged but with the exclusive one so no one else can negotiate with him unless they get permission from the 'Skins. So it looks likely that he'll be there for another season at least.

$23.94m for the season.

[Gray Fox]

Can Cousins pull a Josh Norman and refuse to sign it in order to listen to offers?

Both Charles and oAP hitting the market could tempt some into biting. I'd love to see Jamaal with us for a season or two. Doug Martin and Alshon Jeffery are also tipped to be let go. The latter is already being linked to the Colts.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I don't think a player can refuse an exclusive one.

[Gray Fox]

Franchise tag deadline is up.

Some good names have not been tagged. Stephon Gilmore, Alshon Jeffery, Brandon Williams, Terrelle Pryor, Donta Hightower and Dontari Poe are all going on the market unless a deal can be reached by the 9th.

From an offensive standpoint, Pryor is an interesting option. He can cover many positions and looked good, playing with shit, in Cleveland. He also wont really command a massive paycheck compared to say, Jeffery.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We were never going to tag Williams, we don't have the cap space to designate the tag and then negotiate.

We're either signing him or we're not.

I hope we keep him but I don't see it sadly.

[Gray Fox]

They've just done the coin toss for 14th/15th pick. It landed in favour of Vikings so we get 14th pick in round 1.

Howie Roseman loves a good trade too, so we may well move about a bit before the draft actually starts.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'd love it if Brandon Marshall comes to Baltimore.

[Gray Fox]

You're favouites for him as it stands and we're looking into Brandin Cooks.

He's another player I think Brees makes look good, but he's fast as hell and would give that deep ball we need. Only sticking point is the Saints apparently want a 1st round pick for him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000789978/article/john-ross-runs-422-40yard-dash-breaks-chris-johnsons-record

Oakland/Las Vegas are wanking furiously.

A WR has taken 0.02 seconds of CJ2K's 40 yard dash time at 4.22.

[Gray Fox]

6ft 3" Tight End, Evan Engram, who is 234lbs, ran 4.43.

Only 4 WRs and 2 RBs posted an equal or better time than that. By all accounts he's blown people away across the other disciplines too.

Him and DeShaun Watson have shot to the top of their position, at least until pro days. McCaffery also put himself towards to top of the RBs. Maybe ahead of Fournette now.

[Foe]

Christian macaffrey is absolute mental as a player. He's a nightmare hybrid between wr and rb.

Bellichick is probably creaming at the thought he drops to them. He was quality at Stanford.

Hopefully he doesn't end up at the browns. I loved joe Schobert at Wisconsin last year and he went 99 to the Browns which was all intensively career over.

[Ian]

Didn't realise Denver had so much cap room to play with. Glad Elway doesn't have a reputation so far for being held to ransom by guys he doesn't really rate.

[Gray Fox]

Christian macaffrey is absolute mental as a player. He's a nightmare hybrid between wr and rb.

Bellichick is probably creaming at the thought he drops to them. He was quality at Stanford.

Hopefully he doesn't end up at the browns. I loved joe Schobert at Wisconsin last year and he went 99 to the Browns which was all intensively career over.

I don't think he drops to the Patriots, especially after this combine, he's probably RB 1 off the board. If you look at everyone picking top 15, only the Jags, Saints(maybe) and Eagles you can say don't have a guy they can fully trust at RB, while the Panthers could well use this opportunity to add a quality RB like the Cowboys did last year.

The rumour is that the Patriots will trade Garoppalo for the Browns #12 pick. If that happens it probably means Brady has told Bill he intends on playing at least 2 years more. However if I was the Browns I'd be rubbing my hands together. They traded the chance at Wentz away last year to get the extra picks this year. They need defensive help and not another in the endless QB line. Myles Garrett is by all accounts the best player in the draft and they should take him first 100%. They then have another go only 11 picks later. For me they should jump at the chance at taking another top defensive talent, whether it be someone like Hooker or Peppers.
Their offense is okay. Not great, but not the worst. But they also have a massive $100m in cap space free. If they add the above players to rookie contracts, they'll still have all that cap space. They'll have added quality in depth that is also young and can go about turning that $100m into a serious return. First priority needs to be getting Pryor back or finding someone in free agency who can fill that gap.
They could go a long long way to fixing the team this off season or they could be the Browns and trade it all back for yet another QB.

[Giggles]

When is the draft anyway? Years of following the Packers has made me completely switch off in the offseason and just see what they turn up with in September.

[Gray Fox]

When is the draft anyway? Years of following the Packers has made me completely switch off in the offseason and just see what they turn up with in September.

Around the last weekend in April usually.

[Browning]

You're doing the right thing Giggles. The draft and all of the build up to it is utter shite. It takes them all night to do 32 picks of players you haven't heard of.

[Ian]

Everything between the Super Bowl and week 1 is utter bilge, outside any dealings that directly effect your team. And even those are mostly boring at the time (big name signings aside, I guess) unless you're an absolute snore.

[Foe]

I bloody love the draft process. If you spent any time reading NFL news in march then when April rocks up and its draft day you basically know the guys that are going and pretty much when. It just takes a tunsill, manziel or qb trade moment to make it.

I regularly rewatch the 2015 and 2016 draft I have recorded.

[Ian]

Jesus.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'll watch a draft but re-watching it? Bloody hell.

[Dan]

You should watch the TTH fantasy draft, Foe. It's even more exciting & unpredictable than the real one.

[Gray Fox]

Featuring such exciting selections as Pleb, taking Gostkowski in the 3rd round and using an "all the Chiefs" strategy. I can't see how he came last really.

[Dan]

Exactly. You'd never see that in the real one. Except maybe from the Browns...

[Gray Fox]

Brandon Marshall has signed with the Giants. Garcon to the 49ers expected tomorrow.

[Foe]

The Giants have a pretty potent passing attack.

Just need to add AP now to give them some sort of semblance of balance.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Apparently the Bills want 3 of our players. Wagner, Juice Check and Aiken.

[Gray Fox]

That passing attack just has one pretty big weakness in it.

I don't think they should add through free agency at RB. Although I thought they were drafting lower than #23 when I was typing that. If they could sneak themselves into the mid-teens with a trade they should absolutely take a RB. Whether that be McCaffery, Cook or Fournette if he's still there. Beyond that there's maybe Kamara and not much else you'd be risking a top pick on. They already have a great team everywhere else and it's a pretty young one too.

There was a report kicking around yesterday we were looking at giving the Saints our #14 pick for Brandin Cooks. I know Howie loves a trade, but there's no way in hell that should be entertained.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000791410/article/lions-set-to-make-ricky-wagner-toppaid-right-tackle

Lions will sign Wagner at an average of above $9m a season.

He was predicted to get around $8m a year. Bulaga is currently the highest paid RT at $6.7m a year so they're smashing the market to get him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We've also cut Shareece Wright and Kendrick Lewis which is amazing as they were a shambles and counted a lot against our cap.

Webb, Dumervil, Pitta, Watson, Zuttah, Arrington and Wallace need to be dealt with next.

We need the cap and I imagine that we'll do deals with Pitta, Arrington, Wallace and maybe Webb or Dumervil.

I also don't like that Torrey Smith was cut by the Niners, there are rumours that he will come back but he's shit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That passing attack just has one pretty big weakness in it.

I don't think they should add through free agency at RB. Although I thought they were drafting lower than #23 when I was typing that. If they could sneak themselves into the mid-teens with a trade they should absolutely take a RB. Whether that be McCaffery, Cook or Fournette if he's still there. Beyond that there's maybe Kamara and not much else you'd be risking a top pick on. They already have a great team everywhere else and it's a pretty young one too.

There was a report kicking around yesterday we were looking at giving the Saints our #14 pick for Brandin Cooks. I know Howie loves a trade, but there's no way in hell that should be entertained.
There's also rumours that your lot are interested in Torrey Smith.

Whoever 'wins' his signature will lose.

[Gray Fox]

There's also rumours that your lot are interested in Torrey Smith.

Whoever 'wins' his signature will lose.

I'd take Smith over losing our 1st round pick, if it comes to that. Even given how shit he is. I'd much rather be working on Pryor right now, but we don't have a great amount of cap room.

[Foe]

Roma's getting jettisoned.

Romo to the Jets or god forbid Bears.

[Gray Fox]

The Texans should be interested. But yeah $72m.

[Foe]

The Texans should be interested. But yeah $72m.

They'd start romo, he'd get injured and replaced by osweiler who would subsequently be benched for tom savage. :drool:

[Gray Fox]

Hoyer to the 49ers. The Bears are going to have to sign a back-up and resign Cutler or go QB at #3.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Dumervil has been cut.

Right decision although I thought they might keep him. He's been on the slide and injured a lot recently.

[Gray Fox]

Patriots are trading for Dwayne Allen from the Colts.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Depending on what they pay, that's a good deal.

He's skilled but has underperformed which is a formula that works for the Pats.

[Pleb]

Roma's getting jettisoned.

Romo to the Jets or god forbid Bears.
We're after for a QB aren't we?

What about Kaepernick?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Juszczyk has signed for the Niners :sick:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000791685/article/tony-jefferson-expected-to-sign-with-baltimore-ravens

Tony Jefferson has rejected more money from the Browns to sign for us :drool:

Webb will likely be cut now and we've got two brilliant safeties.

And Woodhead is expected to sign.

[Gray Fox]

Gillmore to the Patriots for about $15m a year. The Browns are being the Browns and are getting Kenny Britt for $32m over 4 years. DeSean Jackson is going to the Bucaneers. Kenny Stills is staying in Miami and has managed to blag $32m over 4 years, despite one of the worth drops of the season.
Patriots are going to get Dwayne Allen for a 4th round pick. Seems a good deal.

The Seahawks and Jamaal Charles apparently have 'mutual interest' which is a scary thought. And lastly we've released Connor Barwin. Good player but didn't suit switching the defence. Frees us up $8m in cap room or so.

EDIT: Torrey Smith 3 year deal with the Eagles for $15m. I wanted Jeffery or Pryor :( There was hope once...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That Britt contract is mental.

Gilmore going to the Pats is insane too, him and Butler are a mean 1-2.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm looking back at some of the contracts that have been signed in the past day or two and so many teams seem to have gone full retard.

Britt, Terrel McCain, Mike fucking Glennon getting $15m a year, Robert Woods getting as much as he is from the Rams, Bills giving Hauschka (a shit kicker) a top-10 kicker contract, Marquise Goodwin getting $4m a year from the Niners, Stills, Gresham, Vernon Davis etc.

Teams are paying so much for average, at best, players and I'm missing loads more too.

[Gray Fox]

The Browns are paying up big on trying to improve their o-line. Fair play they seem to be doing good things, if a little expensively. If they can take Myles Garrett and another quality defensive prospect, they'll have chances to win a few games.

They seem similar to the Raiders a few years back.

[Gray Fox]

The Browns have just traded for Brock Osweiler and a 2nd round pick in 2018. It sounds like the Browns might not even intend to use him and were just after the draft pick.

[Dan]

Well, you can't say Cleveland aren't going for it.

What did they trade in return? Not seen any mention of it anywhere. Surely they can't just buy it off Houston? :cab:

[Gray Fox]

Surely Romo to the Texans is now nailed on.

[Giggles]

Well, you can't say Cleveland aren't going for it.

What did they trade in return? Not seen any mention of it anywhere. Surely they can't just buy it off Houston? :cab:

Just seen flicking through Twitter it was Osweiler, 2018 2nd, and 6th for a 4th.

[Ian]

Elway. :cool:

[Gray Fox]

Browns get Brock, 2nd rounder in 2018, 6th rounder in 2018.

Texans get 4th rounder in 2018, $72m off their wage bill.

[Giggles]

Browns get Brock, 2nd rounder in 2018, 6th rounder in 2018.

Texans get 4th rounder in 2018, $72m off their wage bill.

You'd like to think the Browns have a restructure organised too, but then again it's the Browns.

[Gray Fox]

Rumour is Alshon Jeffery to the Eagles, 1 year $14m. Please be true.

[Gray Fox]

You'd like to think the Browns have a restructure organised too, but then again it's the Browns.

Browns are going to release him instantly. Purely after the draft pick.

[Giggles]

Browns are going to release him instantly. Purely after the draft pick.

What's the hit?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cutler has been cut, lol.

[Pleb]

$6m?

Giggles

[Gray Fox]

What's the hit?

If you inlcude Brock, the money they owe to RG3 etc. It's cost them $8m for the pick.

[Pleb]

Rumour is Alshon Jeffery to the Eagles, 1 year $14m. Please be true.
He's signed :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's pretty crafty by them, it's one of the best moves they've done in some time.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Redskins have fired their GM just after free agency opened which has to be one of he worst timings ever.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We've retained Brandon Williams :drool:

What a day.

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/2-23-2016/5cO4L9.gif

When I buy a new shirt before the Wembley game I'm getting his name and number on the back. HERO.

[Gray Fox]

Looks as if the Jets want to upgrade Fitzmagic throwing endless interceptions to Cutler throwing endless interceptions. No wonder Marshall left!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Absolute madness.

Also, we've now cut Ladarius Webb which was always going to happen after signing Jefferson.

CB 1: Jimmy Smith
CB 2: ???
CB 3: Tavon Young
FS: Eric Weddle
SS: Tony Jefferson

Keep Jimmy healthy for a year and draft/sign a number 2 to start and that's one of the best secondaries in the league. No doubt everyone of those and their backups will get the plague or something though.

[Gray Fox]

Packers picking up Martellus Bennett. Great option for Rodgers after they lost Cook.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Patriots have given away their 2nd round pick for Kony Ealy and the Panthers 3rd round which is a great singing despite a down year for Ealy in 2016.

Pryor is also going to the Redskins on a 1 year $8m deal which is great value for Washington based on other receiver contracts this year.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/10/dennis-pitta-reworks-deal-will-stay-with-ravens/

Pitta is staying with the Ravens after restructuring his contract which is great news.

[Pleb]

Looks as if the Jets want to upgrade Fitzmagic throwing endless interceptions to Cutler throwing endless interceptions. No wonder Marshall left!
Color me shocked.

Can we have a new roster and GM please?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Patriots are now trading for Brandin Cooks.

Pissing hell, Brady with a guy who can stretch the field as well as Cooks is a scary prospect.

[Foe]

Patriots are now trading for Brandin Cooks.

Pissing hell, Brady with a guy who can stretch the field as well as Cooks is a scary prospect.

The Patriots giving away a first rounder on a guy with 1 year left is a little odd, particularly given they rarely pay top dollar.

That, or they're pretty confident they're getting a higher first rounder for Garoppolo away and figured that it's a freebie.

The Browns losing Pryor is a bit of a blow for them. Spend all that time turning him into a WR and see him walk away on a 1 year deal which isn't even that expensive. Pryor must've been demanding elite WR money.

[Gray Fox]

It's quite odd from the Browns to let Pryor go. Even if he was demanding money(I don't think he was by the looks of the deal he signed), they had $100m of cap room to spare and have gone and spent $32m over 4 years on Kenny Britt. I'm not sure quite why they did this instead of retaining Pryor but that's football.

It turns out our deal on Torrey Smith only has $500k guaranteed. The rest of it is all in bonuses and incentives. Our deal on Jeffery is a lot less financially sound, but it gives us Jeffery on the outside, Smith going deep and we can bring Matthews into the slot. Watching him trying to play outside last year was painful. Pretty big upgrade on last season and we just need to sort that RB corps out.

The Patriots are going to be scary good, especially if they keep hold of Butler.

[Dan]

We've replaced Brandin Cooks with Ted Ginn :D He'll remember he's shit now, no doubt.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

840645223915106305

They've got themselves a player.

[Gray Fox]

They've got about 3x better and they've just won the damn Superbowl.

[Ian]

Denver spending some money on the offensive line. Took long enough. Dunno much about Ron Leary but Menelik Watson wasn't anything special at Oakland, was he?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Menelik was a revolving door for most of last season.

Especially in their playoff loss.

Leary has been overpaid but he is a good lineman. Cowboys would have come in with a higher offer had they known that Doug Free was going to retire.

[Ian]

DeMarcus Ware's retired. Great player and even amongst the fitness issues he was tremendous for Denver.

He seems to have been a great influence to the younger players too. A big part in Shane Ray's development if the Post is to be believed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fat Boy has gone to Seattle.

The ghost of Al Davis has signed Cordarelle Patterson and all that speed too.

[Foe]

Fat Boy has gone to Seattle.

The ghost of Al Davis has signed Cordarelle Patterson and all that speed too.

One step closer to boerhinger getting a chance. :cool:

[Ian]

From MMQB:

“We’re really excited to acquire a second-round draft choice in this trade.”

—Cleveland vice president of football operations Sashi Brown, with the first quote in the press release noting his reaction to the deal that sent Brock Osweiler and two draft choices from Houston to Cleveland for a fourth-round pick.

The name (“Brock”) was the 55th word in a 59-word paragraph, five words from the end of the Sashi Brown quote.

:lol:

[Pleb]

Malcolm Butler protentially heading to New Orleans.

This season's free agency is batshit mental.

[Dan]

:drool:

Sounds like we'd have to give up our first round pick unless he signs his tender, in which case we could negotiate a trade.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

841694727330246660

Feast Mode.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000793241/article/tony-romo-pocketed-an-extra-64-bucks-for-one-series

Romo picked up a $64.11 bonus for the season because of the league's performance system.

:cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Zachary-Orr-Gets-An-Extra-407K-In-Performance-Based-Pay/593bc8c4-5f24-4902-9657-6353ddd8a74e

Orr made $407k, his base salary last year was $600k so fair play to him and the league for the bonus. Geezer deserved it.

Also, we've moved up 12 places in the sixth round by trading Zuttah to the Niners.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Latavius Murray to the Vikings, Dontari Poe to the Falcons (for 1 year $8m which is great value), Run DMC is staying in Dallas and we've signed Brandon Carr on a 4 year deal.

Edit: Jets are about to sign Morris Claiborne, we were in the mix but got priced out so went for Carr.

[Gray Fox]

We've got Dalvin Cook coming for a visit. This looks like a signal of intent here. We've spent big on Jeffery and got a great deal on Smith. Add in Ertz and Matthews and the passing game is healthy. Hell we could even risk a throw or two to Agholor. Maybe.

We do have a lot of backfield bodies right now though. Sproles, Mathews and Smallwood already there means a cut or two would be needed. As it is I'd much rather us take a corner, but locking down a RB for years is always a tempting prospect. Though it rarely works out that way.

[Gray Fox]

Rumours that Beast Mode is missing the game have gotten louder over the past week. The Raiders would be the only team he's interested in so it's them or nothing. It's a bit of a non-story as it is, as the Raiders need to obtain his rights from Seattle. If that contact gets made, he'll be most likely coming back.

We need him back for such poetry as below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8Rh6KuuH6w

[Ian]

Denver apparently "visited with" (:sick:) this Joe Mixon cunt.

Do not want.

[Dan]

In a story that makes me want to basically copy/paste Ian's post, the Saints have apparently taken an interest in Johnny Football :cool:

[Gray Fox]

I can see that being a good move actually. Brees is one of the best of his generation and a chance to learn from him whilst building it back up. Also Sean Payton spends all of his time on offence, so he'd be less under pressure.

[Foe]

I can see that being a good move actually. Brees is one of the best of his generation and a chance to learn from him whilst building it back up. Also Sean Payton spends all of his time on offence, so he'd be less under pressure.

Yep. A man with a problem for partying going to New Orleans. No problem.

[Gray Fox]

It's not exactly going to be hard for him to find a drink/drug of choice no matter where he is. If he's going to relapse, he's going to relapse.

[Giggles]

Las Vegas Raiders approved by the owners.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000795413/article/nfl-team-owners-approve-raiders-move-to-las-vegas

[Giggles]

Presumably they'll have to lift the ban on officials entering Las Vegas now too.

[Foe]

The Davis family just needs to move on.

It's such an odd move. Feel for the raiders fans.

On the plus side, they can sign kaepernick in a few years and send him home to Nevada.

[Ian]

Only the second time this has happened in my time watching NFL. Feels really weird.

"LV Raiders"? "Vegas Raiders"? it all sounds shit.

[Giggles]

Only the second time this has happened in my time watching NFL. Feels really weird.

"LV Raiders"? "Vegas Raiders"? it all sounds shit.

Second? It's happened three times in the last two years.

[Ian]

I forgot that the Chargers had been made official. But who cares about the Chargers?

[Pleb]

Vegas Raiders sounds like something off from Power Rangers.

Lol at the move. I didn't think Vegas wanted a major sporting team in their city?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000797181/article/zach-brown-signs-oneyear-deal-with-redskins

That's a bloody brilliant deal for Redskins, I was hoping that he'd sign for the Ravens after Orr had to retire.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tony Romo has decided to retire.

I guess the Broncos and Texans didn't want to give him what he wanted.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000797442/article/tony-romo-to-replace-phil-simms-in-broadcast-booth

Wish he was replacing Aikman instead.

Can't imagine he'll be any good and it's GREAT to see another Cowboy dick in a commentary position.

[Foe]

Be interesting to see whether he changes his mind and comes back. If the cowboys released him he's free to go wherever he wants pending waivers.

Can imagine bill o brien and rick smith on the phone trying to tell him how 99 and 90 can carry the offense to a Super Bowl.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ravens have trade Timmy Jernigan to the Eagles along with their 99th pick (compensatory pick in the 3rd round) for the Eagles third round pick (74).

Jernigan can be a real force but he can also go missing at times, it's a bit shit that we've given up on him but he would have left after this season as we wouldn't be able to afford him. Plus we also have Carl Davis, Mike Pierce, Willie Henry, Bronson Kaufusi and Brent Urban who can play in the same position.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/draft/draft-trade-chart/

THE DRAFT TRADE CHART has the 99th pick at 104 value and the 74th pick as 220 value so that means something, probably.

I'm hoping we use a third round pick to nab the injured Sidney Jones and then put him on IR for the next season.

[Dan]

Lynch has told the Raiders that he intends to come out of retirement to play for them, so now it's up to Oakland to decide if they want him, and then to agree with Seattle on a trade/release.

[Pleb]

Pre Season schedule released tomorrow apparently which means we must be getting close to setting up our TTH fantasy league Gray Fox unless you want me to sort something out (we're using Yahoo right?)?

[Giggles]

Televised ones are out already.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000798872/article/nfl-releases-2017-preseason-schedule

[Gray Fox]

Pre Season schedule released tomorrow apparently which means we must be getting close to setting up our TTH fantasy league Gray Fox unless you want me to sort something out (we're using Yahoo right?)?

We'll be changing site. I can host a new one there, but in honesty we've still got 4 months before we even have to think about it. People don't want to draft until after that last pre-season game to avoid holding injured players.

But yes, Yahoo was one of the popular choices. I think the other was Fleaflicker. ESPN was also mentioned I think.

[Pleb]

FleaFlicker is alright. ESPN is meant to be good. Anyone use FOX Sport (Mahow)?

[Dan]

I'm looking forward to drafting a team full of busts this year. I'm even more excited to see Pleb's draft though.

[Gray Fox]

FleaFlicker is alright. ESPN is meant to be good. Anyone use FOX Sport (Mahow)?

I've used FOX in my other league. It doesn't look pretty but it's efficient enough. Though it doesn't have an app worth a damn on iPhone, while there isn't one at all for Android users.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've only used ESPN (hate), NFL (meh), Fleaflicker (hate) and Yahoo which is the best.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm looking forward to drafting a team full of busts this year. I'm even more excited to see Pleb's draft though.

My money is on him having a fascination/draft hard on for the Browns next year.

[Pleb]

First pick may/could be a kicker :baz:

[Gray Fox]

#1 overall - Justin Tucker :p

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Which he'd then trade to me after 2 weeks for the Jaguars defence.

[Ian]

Yahoo is the best.

[Browning]

Yea lets do yahoo so all my leagues are in one place.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.espn.co.uk/nfl/story/_/id/19153348/eli-manning-new-york-giants-accused-fraud-court-documents


Eli Manning turned over potentially incriminating emails this week in connection with a suit that claims the New York Giants quarterback knowingly provided false game-worn memorabilia to collectors, according to documents filed in a New Jersey court.

http://nypost.com/2017/04/13/heres-proof-eli-manning-was-in-on-giants-memorabilia-scheme/

This is amazing. What is most intriguing is the fact that Eli still uses AOL.

[Giggles]

Now that Dan Rooney has died, I wonder could they ever bury that stupid rule along with him.

[Giggles]

Fuck, that's rough.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000800329/article/former-te-todd-heap-hits-kills-daughter-in-truck-accident

[Ian]

Oh, Jesus. Can;t even imagine how you get over that.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking hell.

[Browning]

Absolutely horrific.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000802111/article/bills-decline-to-match-patriots-offer-for-mike-gillislee

Pats have taken Gillislee from the Bills for a 5th round pick.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000802102/article/adrian-peterson-new-orleans-saints-closing-in-on-deal

AP looks like he's going to New Orleans for a lot less than the $8m a year he was apparently seeking.

[Dan]

Well if he's coming to us that means he'll be shit & injured all season :thbup:

[Gray Fox]

I forgot to mention in here. They did a few "NFL Live" events a couple of weeks back. Essentially it was like an evening with a few players. They did one in London, Liverpool, Nottingham and Edinburgh.

The one I went to had Kurt Warner, Steve Smith Sr, Danny Shelton and they brought journalist Peter King along. I'll be honest and say I didn't exactly know what it was we were going to before. But it was quite good to be fair. It might have been dull without Steve Smith there, but then anything would.

[Ian]

The one I went to in Glasgow was entertaining.

Reinebold was there at mine and was probably the highlight, though the young Browns linebacker whose name I've already forgotten was surprisingly good.

[Pleb]

After looking at the released regular season schedule one night due to sheer boredom I was wondering how the fuck Amazon managed to snatch at least 10-15 Thursday Night Football games with the Network.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000802591/article/seahawks-raiders-agree-to-trade-for-marshawn-lynchs-rights

Beast Mode's rights have been traded to the Raiders.

He just has to file papers to un-retire and complete a medical.

[Gray Fox]

I hope he's as good as he was now he's had the year to heal up. He is a joy to watch when he's on it.

[Pleb]

Lads.

The 2017 fantasy league registration is open :thbup:

[Dan]

Draft starts tonight, right? Anybody going to bother with it?

[Giggles]

Was all set to, but I've just confirmed a job in the morning where I need to be there for 9 and it's 4.5 hours away.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I will, I never know why but I always watch most of the whole thing.

I reckon I've got the Ravens pick down to like 4.

Mike Williams/Corey Davis
Cam Robinson
Derek Barnett
Rueben Foster.

Somewhat shockingly they all play in positions that need to be targetted. If OJ Howard falls to us though, despite having no real need for him I think Ozzie would bite.

Edit: If all are there I think we take Foster first, we have a big hole at MLB after Orr had to retire and Ozzie loves Alabama guys. If not then Mike Williams if he's there.

[Pleb]

Most mock drafts are suggesting that we (the Jets lol) take OJ Howard and more than likely trade him so you have him Mahow.

I'm hoping for a QB and a new team.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We wont get him.

I imagine that they will trade with the Browns.

That would enable the Jets to pick Howard up at 12th (plus getting an extra pick) and the Browns ensuring that they get Trubisky ahead of the Bills.