The NFL Thread

[Dan]

Texans sign Osweiler & Lamar Miller in the offseason, and are now playing Tom Savage & Akeem Hunt :D

[Gray Fox]

They've benched Miller too?

[Gray Fox]

In any case. Some o-line help and actual WRs that can consistently catch a ball in the off season should see us go from meh to good.

[Dan]

Sadly not. He came in the play after & got stopped on the goal line. Must've just been being rested for a bit.

[Gray Fox]

I've only just noticed the Vikings score. What happened to their early defensive form? :p

[Foe]

I've only just noticed the Vikings score. What happened to their early defensive form? :p

Agent Bradford playing the long con.

[Gray Fox]

He's been conning people for a long, long time.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Anyone AWAKE?

[bruhnaldo]

WAKE played last night bub :drool:

Phins up !

[Dan]

The Bills running game is doing its part again today. Now start chucking it at Sammy Watkins.

[Gray Fox]

Nah I'm busy gushing over Shady.

[Ian]

Tyreek Hill is the best of these 'offensive weapon' type players.

Hero.

A pity, really, that he's a verminous little scumbag.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Christ, I didn't know about that.


Hill eventually plead guilty to domestic assault and battery by strangulation and was sentenced to three years of probation, an anger-management course, a year-long batterer's program, and was required to undergo a domestic-abuse evaluation

Against his pregnant girlfriend, damn.

[Ian]

Strangled her, punched her in the face and stomach. Hopefully he shatters his knee at some point.

[Dan]

Kenneth Dixon just scored. Where's Mahow?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Geezer is a hero.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bengals need to hold the fuck on.

[Giggles]

The Lions losing and you fuck it away vs Chicago :face:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:moop:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Powers :cool:

8-0 against rookie QB's.

[Gray Fox]

Rodgers is so fucking good!

[Giggles]

What a fucking man.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Falcons might be going for a record here.

21-0 in the first quarter, woof.

[Gray Fox]

Gus Bradley is out. Can Jeff Fisher come in and take the record?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mon big Jeff :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Realistically though, they should take their time over this appointment now.

They've got a very young team with a high amount of potential and an early draft order. Get someone in who is competent and they could ruffle some feathers next year.

Need to punt Bortles too.

[Ian]

Three fucking points.

[Gray Fox]

Three fucking points.

Rumour of the week is Romo to Denver for 2017.

If it's even possible he needs to grab that job. He'd have a defence that will keep him in almost any game, while Thomas and Sanders are great weapons going to waste. Sure there's not much of a run game going right now, but one step at a time.

[Ian]

Yeah, that's been rumoured basically since Prescott made the Dallas job his own. If Denver decide Siemian is part of the problem and Lynch isn't ready then we could do worse than Romo. I can't think of another vet who's likely to be available that's better.

[Giggles]

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuvsoZLE3WE

South Park was right again.

[Browning]

Yeah, that's been rumoured basically since Prescott made the Dallas job his own. If Denver decide Siemian is part of the problem and Lynch isn't ready then we could do worse than Romo. I can't think of another vet who's likely to be available that's better.

Tebowmania?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Nah, he's too busy running into walls in Arizona.

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/722e12cd0758897851fa8a7420f7c18f7fb61c52/c=14-0-3088-2311&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/2016/10/11/USATODAY/USATODAY/636118060305427890-USP-MINOR-LEAGUE-BASEBALL-ARIZONA-FALL-LEAGUE-SCO-85920254.JPG

I don't know what baseball stats mean but apparently people have been saying he's shit which is shocking.

[Gray Fox]

I refuse to believe he's shit at anything.

[Browning]

I think I read somewhere that his first ever hit was a home run. Should have quit then.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

63 passing attempts by Eli?

Fucking hell.

Apparently since 1999 there have been 29 games in which a QB has thrown 60+, only 3 of those QBs have won.

[Ian]

Tebowmania?

:drool:

[Foe]

Just a reminder that the games are on tonight and about to start gents.

Dolphins v bills :(

[Foe]

The fuck are the Titans playing at, getting beat by the jags :mad:

[Foe]

Suspect Mariota has just broken his ankle. Woof.

[Pleb]

Who's wide awake?

[Dan]

Suspect Mariota has just broken his ankle. Woof.

Fuck sake :mad:

[Giggles]

This season :cool:

[Gray Fox]

Broken shin bone for Mariota.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lockett scores a TD whilst getting his leg broken in a couple of places.

:\

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Poor bastard, they took the TD away from him and said he was down at the 1.

Evil wanker refs.

[Gray Fox]

To be fair, Arians is enough of a prick to have thrown a challenge there.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He didn't, it was a scoring play so automatically reviewed.

They should have given it to him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Seahawks fucking up a passing play on the 1 yard line? I'm not buying it.

[Gray Fox]

That's some stand by the Cardinals.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Carr done for the day it seems, possibly longer.

[Gray Fox]

Horrible for him on a potential MVP year.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I feel sorry for anyone who bought tickets to the Rams/Niners game.

Shit QB's and inept RB's ahoy.

I guess at least with the Rams you get some decent defensive plays.

[Gray Fox]

I still am in shock both they and the Browns passed up on Wentz.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's a bitching catch by Cooper.

[Dan]

The injuries today :sick:

[Gray Fox]

Carr broke his shin bone. Done for the play-offs, as are probably the Raiders.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking hell.

Only sack they allowed too, what shit timing for them.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hauschka :harold:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

lol.

[Gray Fox]

Last 2 minutes of that game was pure lol.

[Pleb]

Mahow :harold:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've only seen parts as family was still here.

Why the fuck has Flacco attempted to pass the ball 22 times thus far?

RUN THE FUCKING BALL, that's how we win.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Zach Orr is such a fucking monster.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Old man Smith :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Antonio Brown having a shit game against us? Well I never :harold:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Dixon is brilliant.

His last two rushes have been stunning.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mosely :drool:

This is Christmas, fuck the lot of you for making me talk to myself.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Juice :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

Fuck Christmas, fuck Ben, fuck Bell, fuck Brown.

[Browning]

Renewed my season ticket. £260 for the 4 or £190 if I let my mate but my ticket for the Browns Vs Vikings, which I am tempted to do.

[Ian]

17 completions off 40+ attempts for Siemian while both running backs averaged 5+ per carry. I haven't seen any of it so the running game stats might be misleading but still, I'm gonna chuck everything to do with the Denver offense a festive "Fuck off" and leave it at that.

[Giggles]

That's the AFC set isn't it now?

The Ravens losing after all those mahow post was lol as fuck.

[Pleb]

Have the Jets sacked off their entire squad yet?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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So good.

[Dan]

Greatest all-round player in the league :drool:

How many players have registered a passing TD, a rushing TD & a sack?

[Giggles]

The Dolphins won 10 games? :|

Completely missed that one.

[Giggles]

Green Bay @ Detroit has been flexed into stupid o'clock on Sunday :moop:

[Gray Fox]

It's because nothing they do tonight matters. The division rests on the winner of next weeks game.

Also poor Mahow. It's almost as if Brown knew you were talking him down when he stretched that ball out.

[Giggles]

It's because nothing they do tonight matters. The division rests on the winner of next weeks game.

Also poor Mahow. It's almost as if Brown knew you were talking him down when he stretched that ball out.

But still, it means staying up til 4am. Surely the could have another bigger game to move than one in a shit division between two teams that would be done in the playoffs after one game.

[Giggles]

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[Gray Fox]

Ouch. Thought he'd get one last crack at it next season. But that's no post season in 6 straight seasons now.

Maybe it's because his fuck up cost them the game v Miami.

[Giggles]

He'll be some DC hire for someone next season if he doesn't take a year off.

[Pleb]

NFC Playoff Picture

CLINCHED:
Dallas -- NFC East division title and home-field advantage throughout NFC playoffs
Atlanta -- NFC South division title
Seattle -- NFC West division title
New York Giants -- playoff berth

Atlanta Falcons
Atlanta clinches a first-round bye:
1) ATL win
2) ATL tie + SEA loss or tie
3) SEA loss + DET loss or tie
4) SEA tie + DET loss

Seattle Seahawks
Seattle clinches a first-round bye:
1) SEA win + ATL loss or tie
2) SEA tie + ATL loss + GB/DET tie

Detroit Lions
Detroit clinches division title:
1) DET win
Detroit clinches a first-round bye:
1) DET win + SEA loss or tie + ATL loss
Detroit clinches a playoff berth:
1) DET tie
2) WAS loss or tie

Green Bay Packers
Green Bay clinches division title:
1) GB win or tie
Green Bay clinches a playoff berth:
1) WAS loss
2) WAS tie tie + TB win + GB clinches at least a tie in strength of victory over TB
(Note: GB clinches at least a tie in strength of victory tiebreaker over TB if one of the following teams win or tie: SEA, HOU, JAX, PHI. GB has already clinched strength of schedule tiebreaker over TB in this scenario)

Washington Redskins
Washington clinches a playoff berth:
1) WAS win + GB-DET game does not end in a tie
2) WAS tie + GB loss + TB loss or tie

Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Tampa Bay clinches a playoff berth:
1) TB win + WAS tie + GB loss + TB clinches strength of victory tiebreaker over GB
(Note: TB clinches strength of victory tiebreaker over GB if all of the following teams win: TEN, IND, DAL and SF)
AFC Playoff Picture

CLINCHED:
New England -- AFC East division title and first-round bye
Pittsburgh -- AFC North division title
Houston -- AFC South division title
Oakland -- playoff berth
Kansas City -- playoff berth
Miami -- playoff berth

New England Patriots
New England clinches homefield advantage throughout AFC playoffs:
1) NE win or tie
2) OAK loss or tie

Oakland Raiders
Oakland clinches division title and a first-round bye:
1) OAK win or tie
2) KC loss or tie
Oakland clinches homefield advantage throughout AFC playoffs:
1) OAK win + NE loss

Kansas City Chiefs
Kansas City clinches division title and a first-round bye:
1) KC wins + OAK loss

Miami Dolphins
Miami clinches No. 5 seed:
1) MIA win + KC loss
So New England v Dallas/Atlanta/Seattle for the Super Bowl then? No way do the Bucs and the Redskins sneak through.

[niko_cee]

Big Andy's Arrowhead Express for the Superbowl.

Could do with winning their fucking division for once though.

[Giggles]

Love to see Kansas City vs Dallas but it's going to be New England vs Seattle.

[Gray Fox]

Someone that isn't the Patriots and Seattle please.

In further Rex Ryan news, apparently a significant part of his dismissal was his insistence that Tyrod Taylor be his QB next year. Looks like Tyrod will be looking for a new team soon too.

[Dan]

Someone's going to stop Dallas, and nobody ever stops the Patriots, so New England/Seattle sounds about right.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

lol at the Bills wanting to see more EJ Manuel though.

[Ian]

If we get Brady vs. Sherman then I'm afraid my preferred winner will have to be biblical plague of locusts.

[Dan]

So, Doug Martin has been suspended for four games for a drug policy violation & has gone to a treatment facility, while Steve Smith has said Sunday will probably be his last game.

[Gray Fox]

No sympathy for the former, but the latter has clearly still got it. It'd be a shame to see him go.

[Giggles]

Mouthpiece, and it'll make the Ravens worse so good riddance.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Eat shit.

He's a major don, we're in deep shit when he retires though.

Wallace has done fairly well but he's not a number 1, Aiken has looked disinterested this whole season, Perriman has been a bit like a shit Torrey Smith, Campanaro is more of a special teamer/gadget play guy and Chris Moore, whilst he has flashed some promise, hasn't been involved enough.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Keenan Reynolds on the 53 man roster for the last game :cool:

[Gray Fox]

Smith to get 50+ targets and also rush 20 times in his last game?

[Foe]

Washington gave it a good crack but a pick 6 and failure to stuff bama on a third down at the bama 1 tipped it.

Think I'd like Clemson to do it now though. A chance for revenge.

[Ian]

So with Denver having fucked the season almost entirely brecause of the offense the speculation is ON.

Will Kubiak chuck it in case he dies in the job? Will Denver sign Romo?

My answers are "Erm, maybe?" and "Er, naw."

Romo would not necessarily be a downgrade if they were certain Trev wasn't the answer and Lynch isn't the answer yet but that the offense fell entirely to bits as soon as Anderson, who it turns out might be a megadon, went down suggest if we're going to spunk our load it should be on the line. I mean.... Donald Stephenson. Mate.

[Gray Fox]

Chip Kelly might be about to lose his job for the 2nd time in just over a year. Trent Baalke too. Somewhere Jim Harbaugh is eating breakfast with a massive grin on his face.

[Dan]

Allen Robinson racking up the yards now nobody gives a fuck :moop:

[Giggles]

Anything meaningful in these early games?

[Gray Fox]

Tony Romo is playing. He's currently on the hottest no interception streak in his career.

[Giggles]

They are nuts playing him.

[Gray Fox]

Well he isn't yet. But he's getting snaps today.

[Giggles]

Well he isn't yet. But he's getting snaps today.

Ah right. With the week off next week it's definitely smart to keep Prescott playing and not have him off for 2 straight weeks.

[Foe]

Dallas seemed ridiculous value at 3.2 today. Not sure if anyone jumped on that.

Pittsburg on the other hand, granted resting a few starters, are struggling against the Browns :moop:

[Gray Fox]

It makes some sense, as they're resting Zeke too. You'd rather be playing Romo than all his flaws than turning to Mr Buttfumble.

[Gray Fox]

Romo TD throw. It's like being in 2015 all over again.

[Foe]

Sanchez is in :uhuh:

Steelers, 'mon LADS. The browns are wank. You're at home. Seriously.

[Pleb]

What are the Ravens doing losing to the Bengals? :D

[Giggles]

Never thought I'd see Landry Jones still on an NFL roster in 2017 after he was drafted, let alone 2nd string.

[Giggles]

What are the Ravens doing losing to the Bengals? :D

I'd say after the letdown of last week they're running on about 50%. Meaningless game.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'd say after the letdown of last week they're running on about 50%. Meaningless game.

Indeed.

We're also missing a lot of our defensive starters. It's effectively a pre-season game for both sides I would imagine.

Edit: Actually I thought it was more than it is. Point about it being a pre-season game stands though.

It's Steve Smith's testimonial.

[Dan]

Mike Mitchell's protestation was the most polite outrage I've ever heard:

"PLEASE...PLEASE LOOK AT IT SIR! OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS!"

:D

[Giggles]

4-6 to 10-6. That'll do.

[Ian]

Take that, Oakland.

Wonder who we get in as head coach. I suppose if they're going for one of the currently popular coordinators who are considered to be due a job that Kyle Shanahan would be the obvious one to pursue. I suspect/fear we'll promote Wade.

[Giggles]

Outstanding.


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[Gray Fox]

Outstanding.


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Rex Ryan leaving a legacy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Stunning.

No word from us yet but I hope we fire both of our main co-ordinators.

Our offensive co-ordinator is a fucking shambles, we do better when we're more of a 50/50 pass/run team, not one letting Flacco pass it around 45-50 times games.

We got a lot of credit earlier this season for our 'number 1 defense' but ultimately we were pretty lacklustre. We didn't dial up enough pass rush throughout the season and we gave up too many big plays at the end of games. The final drive by the Steelers last week was hopeless, they might as well have not been there.

[Gray Fox]

It's time for the coaching merry-go-round. Not even bothering looking to see who is rumoured for where as there's so many.

I think the Vikings(our traded pick in the draft) finished either 14th or 15th in the order. They've tied with the Colts and Ravens on 8-8 but I'm sure the Ravens are at the back of those 3 with a harder schedule. With us finishing 12th we've not exactly missed out on a great deal. So in essence we got Wentz for not all that much in the end. Getting that 1st(and possible 3rd) round pick back for Bradford was a masterstroke.

Obviously we don't know who is what or where in the draft yet, but we can do almost everything from 15th. I just hope we don't take a WR, unless a seriously good one is there. O-line needs help, as does our secondary.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We're 16th.

14th and 15th will be decided by a coin flip as your schedule strength was the same.


Due to a tie in both record and strength-of-schedule, Minnesota's and Indianapolis' draft order will be determined via a coin flip at the NFL scouting combine. The Vikings and Colts will then rotate picking the 14th, 15th, and 16th picks of each round with the Baltimore Ravens

[Dan]

We're picking at 11, and as always need to pile on the defence big time.

[Giggles]

Were there any more sackings today or did they do it all yesterday?

[Dan]

Pagano & Payton are the main ones with their future in doubt at the minute, I think.

Also, here's the Mike Mitchell 'really polite outrage at facemask call' for anyone who missed it. (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000767249/article/mitchell-cant-believe-he-got-called-for-a-facemask)

[Giggles]

Payton is being talked about for LA isn't he? Haven't seen a trade for a coach since Tampa went for Gruden.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Pagano & Payton are the main ones with their future in doubt at the minute, I think.

Also, here's the Mike Mitchell 'really polite outrage at facemask call' for anyone who missed it. (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000767249/article/mitchell-cant-believe-he-got-called-for-a-facemask)

I thought Pagano was safe as chips? He signed a renewal last season

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Apparently Bill O'Brien might be sacked if Oakland beat the Texans on Saturday.

[Giggles]

Oakland must be so pissed off. They were heading for an AFC title game and a Superbowl with a bit of luck.

[Gray Fox]

Pagano was on thin ice last season. I believe they went 8-8 then too.

Jags, Rams, 49ers and Bills are all looking to hire, with the Texans likely to join that hunt, maybe the Colts too. All of the hired will need replacing too, so we could see some NFL dominoes.

[Pleb]

Oakland must be so pissed off. They were heading for an AFC title game and a Superbowl with a bit of luck.
There probably hoping that whoever wins their wildcard game and the Dolphins beat the Steelers out of the Playoffs that they would face the Chiefs which would soften the blow and a championship exit wouldn't piss Oakland off if they make it.

The Dolphins-Patriots divisional round would be a fucking bloodbath for Miami so surely they would sack off their offseason?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Stunning.

No word from us yet but I hope we fire both of our main co-ordinators.

Our offensive co-ordinator is a fucking shambles, we do better when we're more of a 50/50 pass/run team, not one letting Flacco pass it around 45-50 times games.

We got a lot of credit earlier this season for our 'number 1 defense' but ultimately we were pretty lacklustre. We didn't dial up enough pass rush throughout the season and we gave up too many big plays at the end of games. The final drive by the Steelers last week was hopeless, they might as well have not been there.

Both are being kept on :moop:

I thought it was unlikely that Pees (DC) would go as he has a good relationship with Harbaugh but I didn't see Mornhinweg staying, his play calling was fucking abysmal.

We're averaging 10 yards a carry with our RB's, but I only want to run the ball 8 times and get Joe to lob it around 100 times.
Sounds a-okay to me
I have no idea how we lost that boss...

Flacco and Pitta said they wanted him to stay, obviously because Flacco likes to think he's a top 5 QB (try 15 at best, mate) and because Pitta was the only one thriving in the system.

Flacco averaged just .1 passes fewer than Brees this season and we averaged the 3rd lowest amount of rushes as a team. It's bonkers, especially as Flacco's best weapon is his deep ball on play action passes which can only work if we rush well (we did alright but we should have given Dixon a bigger percentage of the rushes in the second half of the season) and rush often but we didn't. Our play calling was the worst possible style for the team so it clearly makes sense to keep that going into next year.

Edit: I was hoping for McCoy as OC and anyone as DC as Pees is trash.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Also, Connor Cook vs Brock Osweiler is going to be amazing.

One is a fairly average rookie who was poor in his first start and the other could make a case as being the most overpaid player ever.

[Giggles]

Also, Connor Cook vs Brock Osweiler is going to be amazing.

One is a fairly average rookie who was poor in his first start and the other could make a case as being the most overpaid player ever.

Not even close.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Not even close.

I've just seen Cutler's last contract.


7 year, $126,700,000 contract with the Chicago Bears, including $54,000,000 guaranteed,

What a shambles the Bears are.

[Foe]

I've just seen Cutler's last contract.



What a shambles the Bears are.

And Brian fucking Hoyer was out playing him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000769131/article/pro-football-hall-of-fame-class-of-2017-finalists

Atwater not in the final again, so much disrespect.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/4e/11/4e/4e114eec31cee34799a1bed845381c4f.jpg

Hero.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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:cool:

[Giggles]

All-Pro First Team

OFFENSE
Quarterback: Matt Ryan, Atlanta
Running Back: Ezekiel Elliott, Dallas
Flex: David Johnson, Arizona
Tight End: Travis Kelce, Kansas City
Wide Receivers: Antonio Brown, Pittsburgh; Julio Jones, Atlanta
Left Tackle : Tyron Smith, Dallas
Right Tackle: Jack Conklin, Tennessee
Left Guard: Kelechi Osemele, Oakland
Right Guard: Zack Martin, Dallas
Center: Travis Frederick, Dallas

DEFENSE
Edge Rushers: Khalil Mack, Oakland; Vic Beasley Jr., Atlanta
Interior Linemen: Aaron Donald, Los Angeles; Damon Harrison, New York Giants
Linebackers: Von Miller, Denver; Bobby Wagner, Seattle; Sean Lee, Dallas
Cornerbacks: Aqib Talib, Denver; Marcus Peters, Kansas City
Safeties: Landon Collins, New York Giants; Eric Berry, Kansas City
Defensive Back: Chris Harris Jr., Denver

SPECIAL TEAMS
Placekicker: Justin Tucker, Baltimore
Punter: Johnny Hekker, Los Angeles
Kick Returner: Cordarrelle Patterson, Minnesota
Punt Returner: Tyreek Hill, Kansas City
Special Teamer: Matthew Slater, New England

[Giggles]

All-Pro Second Team

OFFENSE
Quarterback: Tom Brady, New England
Running Back: David Johnson, Arizona
Flex: Le'Veon Bell, Pittsburgh
Tight End: Greg Olsen, Carolina
Wide Receivers: Odell Beckham Jr., New York Giants; Mike Evans, Tampa Bay
Left Tackle: David Bakhtiari, Green Bay
Right Tackle: Mitchell Schwartz, Kansas City, and Marcus Cannon, New England
Left Guard: Marshal Yanda, Baltimore
Right Guard: David DeCastro, Pittsburgh
Center: Alex Mack, Atlanta

DEFENSE
Edge Rushers: Jadeveon Clowney, Houston; Cameron Wake, Miami, Olivier Vernon, New York Giants, and Brandon Graham, Philadelphia
Interior Linemen: Ndamukong Suh, Miami; Calais Campbell, Arizona, and Gerald McCoy, Tampa Bay
Linebackers: Lorenzo Alexander, Buffalo; Luke Kuechly, Carolina; Lavonte David, Tampa Bay, C.J. Mosley, Baltimore, Zach Brown, Buffalo, Zachary Orr, Baltimore, Alec Ogletree, Los Angeles, Dont'a Hightower, New England, Whitney Mercilus, Houston, and Benardrick McKinney, Houston
Cornerbacks:Janoris Jenkins, New York Giants; Casey Hayward, San Diego, and Malcolm Butler, New England
Safeties: Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Green Bay; Devin McCourty, New England.
Defensive Back: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, New York Giants

SPECIAL TEAMS
Placekicker: None.
Punter: Marquette King, Oakland
Kick Returner: Tyler Lockett, Seattle
Punt Returner: None.
Special Teamer: Nate Ebner, New England

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think no other kicker being mentioned is apt for this year.

I do think Johnson should be first team though.

Mosely and Orr our MLB pairing making the second team though :cool:

[niko_cee]

Yee haw!

An anthem rendition for Trump's America.

:cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Better than a lot we've heard this season.

Osweiler will get buried tonight.

I have the following bets on:

£5 on Cooper to score a TD @ 3.3
£5 on Murray to score a TD @ 2.7
£5 on the Raiders to win @ 2.7
£5 on a special teams or defensive TD @ 3.25.

Brock will throw a pick 6.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Raiders have started so conservatively (and shit), christ.

[Pleb]

No huddling is the way to go.

The Texans defense are fucking shambolic despite that random pick Oakland gave them.

[Pleb]

No solid Quarterback for the offense?

There fucked.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Can't be many who are as hot and cold as Crabtree is.

[Dan]

This game isn't going to be very good, is it? :D

Both offences look sloppy & unambitious, although Oakland to seem to be getting a bit more aggressive on the last few couple of drives.

[Pleb]

Nothing to see here folks, Osweiler's here and halling ass.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Nothing to see here folks, Osweiler's here and halling ass.
That typo is better than the game thus far.

[Foe]

The problem with supporting the Texans is that it doesn't matter if they're winning by 1 or 14, if osweiller is in the FEAR is always there.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Finally something good.

[Pleb]

Your bet for Oakland is looking a little bit risky Sir How.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I put a lot more on them (+6.5, so as long as they get it tight...) after the first TD for the Texans :uhoh:

The Raiders need to pull Cook.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

As shit as Cook has been, his tackles (especially Howard) really haven't helped him at all.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

When he actually gets a decent pass out his receivers drop the ball.

[Giggles]

Osweiler :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Goodbye money.

Raiders have been trash across the board.

I can't remember seeing a limper performance by a team in the playoffs before.

[Gray Fox]

See the Texans at this point last year.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

See the Texans at this point last year.

Of course, I forgot about that wonder.

Even though the Raiders have technically done better than the Texans last year, the Chiefs were playing so well that day. The Texans aren't exactly having to do much today.

Mon the Raiders, get it to within 6 points and I'll be happy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Andre Holmes coming in has done a lot.

He's got sticky fingers.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

One TD lads, please.

Just one, that's all I ask.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Wankers.

Bouye deserved that though, he's been a top 10 cornerback this year after going undrafted in 2013.

[Gray Fox]

Tough for Cook. Thrown in at the deep end there. You wonder how Carr would have done.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tough for Cook. Thrown in at the deep end there. You wonder how Carr would have done.

Better but he still would have struggled.

Menelik Waston, Kelechi Osemele and Austin Howard couldn't be fucked.

The Raiders have spent so much on their line this year (most going to KO) and it was a complete shambles today.

Run game was shut down too (I expect they would have done better if Carr was there as the Texans would be more scared of the pass game) and the receivers were a mess (probably didn't trust Cook).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jimmy Graham dead on the sidelines it seems.

That was a massive hit he took.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That catch :|

It's up there near the best.

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Edit: Not a bad second catch either, he's trying to Chris Matthews this today.

[Ian]

Jesus Christ, he's no right to be snagging that.

[Gray Fox]

I love the catch but surely that's a facemask call?

[wullie]

Nice timing for Thomas Rawls to finally start the season. I don't know what the average amount of juggles and drops per game is but Detroit must have blitzed it.

[Giggles]

It's been a fun Packers season but I think it could be time to switch it off by half time tonight.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I love the catch but surely that's a facemask call?

I thought it wasn't called because the defender pushed him which caused the facemask.

At half time though the refs looked at it and said it should have been offsetting penalties.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Game over effectively already.

Miami could get shat on.

Poor bruhnaldo

[Giggles]

This is another pointless game because of injury.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Awful coverage.

Can we start the second game early?

[Dan]

Well this is over already :D

[Foe]

The Texans :cool:

The Dolphins at least need to start torching it downfield. Opportunity to see how mental Jarvis Landry can be.

[Ian]

Vance Joseph's audition tape for the Denver interview going really well so far.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Record number of points to be scored today?

[Dan]

Lev Bell is so fucking good.

Two minutes into the second quarter Bell has 95 yards & Brown has 119 & 2TDs.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That was such a satisfying sound when the ball hit the post there.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Goodbye Matt Moore.

[Giggles]

That's a more satisfying sound.

[Dan]

Matt Moore is dead, I think.

Time for TJ Yates :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fair play to him for coming back in so quickly.

Juwan James saving him from getting molested again.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Brown looking like a Texan there.

[Giggles]

Nelson out, game over.

[Pleb]

What scenes :drool:

[Dan]

How do they always manage to do that?! :D

[Pleb]

The Giants should of been out of sight by now :D

[Gray Fox]

So... shall we keep pretending like Rodgers isn't the MVP?

[Pleb]

Suddenly going for it on 4 and inches makes the Packers coach look like a right muppet.

Why the fuck did the Giants not go for two? :cab:

[Dan]

Well that's a play :D

[Pleb]

Dunno what's worse.

That or running out of play on a return kick at the three yard line. Giants have royally fucked it which is :drool: if I'm perfectly honest.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That last second TD in the second quarter was brilliant, they're so good at the hail mary plays (I wish I was that good at them on Madden :(), some of the passes Rodgers was flinging about were absolutely perfect.

Especially Cobb's last TD, perfect speed and a seriously tight spiral.

[bruhnaldo]

Game over effectively already.

Miami could get shat on.

Poor bruhnaldo

Was a rough day boys but was expected if I'm honest.

At least we got to the playoffs I guess.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You know how to cut a man to the bone :(

[Giggles]

I missed that idiot on the Giants fielding the kickoff last night.

[bruhnaldo]

lmfao fuck, sorry Mahow. Not intended at all bud.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000772110/article/doug-marrone-will-accept-jaguars-head-coaching-job

Doug Marrone to be Jaguars head coach with Tom Coughlin appointed as executive vice president.

He went 9-7 with the Bills in 2014 and walked away in hopes of becoming the Jets head coach but flopped in his interview.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000772017/article/john-harbaugh-ravens-need-another-running-back

I really don't get this.

West and Dixon (who should be the starter next year) were really good when they were given the ball. The problem was that they were hardly ever actually given the ball. We have so many actual holes, we don't need a running back unless they're going to sack off West. Chuck a 5th/6th rounder at some kid who is a speed demon, fine.

[Giggles]

That wasn't exactly Texas USC but it wasn't half bad at all. I'm fucking wrecked now though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Maybe he should have caught some passes on the field.

[Giggles]

Vance Joseph is the new Head Coach of the Broncos.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000772838/article/vance-joseph-expected-to-be-named-broncos-coach

[Ian]

I'd decided I wanted Toub but I have faith in Elway at this point. The important thing is that work gets done on the offense in the off-season.

[bruhnaldo]

I know I should probably be upset by losing our DC but I don't know that I'm really bothered.

[Gray Fox]

The Chargers owner has called an 8am meeting for staff on Thursday. He's expected to tell them they've run out of options and will be joining the Rams in LA.

They have until the 17th January before they lose their first option, but they're getting no help from the league to stay in San Diego currently. It'll be interesting to see if the Raiders look a lot more closely at their potential move to Vegas now.

[Giggles]

Sean McDermott to Buffalo.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Chargers moving to LA officially.

[bruhnaldo]

Heard they might leave "Chargers" behind, though. Think that would be the best move especially seeing as apparently no one gives a fuck about the Rams being "back".

Los Angeles Anacondas ?
Los Angeles Leopards ?

I thought Los Angeles Bandits might be good as they could make a logo that plays off of LA's obsession with gangs:

http://www.crimsonredsports.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=1104;type=avatar

maybe just make the bandana black or something as to not lean toward the bloods or the crips lol

[wullie]

Their Twitter guy didn't waste any time

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/819578918726299648/mDZl_OpH.jpg

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Latin Kings are black, no?

They should just go red, affiliate with the bloods and hire Aaron Hernandez to be an Executive VP of Prison Operations.

Edit: Latin Kings are black and gold, so they're in Steeler pockets.

[bruhnaldo]

Oh I'm not sure. I thought maybe yellow. I have no idea lol.

huge lol @ Aaron Hernandez, VP tho

[Giggles]

Anthony Lynn (Bills OC) - Chargers Head Coach.
Sean McVay (Redskins OC) - Rams Head Coach.
Wade Phillips has also taken over as Rams defensive coordinator and Leslie Frazer has taken the same job in Buffalo.

Sean McVay isn't even 31 for another fortnight :|



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[Ian]

Talk of Denver's DBs coach getting Wade's job. Which makes some sense, I suppose.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000773767/article/steelerschiefs-start-time-changed-due-to-forecast

Steelers Chiefs match pushed from 6pm to 1:20am on Sunday because of weather.

:(

[Gray Fox]

Raiders are off to Vegas now.

[Foe]

Raiders are off to Vegas now.

That, on paper, is a horrendous move.

They're basically fobbing off Oakland for a reliance on tourists to fill the stadium. They must've done some market research to suggest it'll work, but if I was a Raiders fan I'd be pissed... if you want to keep watching them it's a 650km drive (or more likely, internal flight).

[Pleb]

That's a bit :D if true.

[Gray Fox]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000773952/article/raiders-to-file-relocation-papers-to-move-from-oakland-to-vegas?campaign=Twitter_atn

Bad times to be a Californian football fan. Still could be worse. At least they aren't the 49ers.

[Foe]

Three team moves in 12 months is bonkers.
That's 10% of the league, just deciding to fuck off elsewhere.

[Gray Fox]

It'll be interesting for sure. Unlike the two moving to LA, who moved instantly, the Raiders will have to stay in Oakland while the stadium gets built in Vegas. Probably for 3 years or so. I'd like to see how the fans deal with it.

[Foe]

Hoping it's the falcons and Houston that win tonight.

Unfortunately, it'll probably be Brady vs Wilson.

[Giggles]

Definitely want Seattle in this one. Not worth worrying about Houston, they're going to get walloped.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Definitely want Seattle in this one. Not worth worrying about Houston, they're going to get walloped.

Agreed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The fuck is going on?

We had Devin Hester most of the year and he was fucking horseshit, he's looking vintage today.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking lol.

[Dan]

That was amazing :D

[Foe]

Fat man stands on your foot is a pretty bad day. Never mind a different fat man then jumping on you.

[niko_cee]

The flag on that Hester return is going to settle this avian shitfest. Ref's have clearly been told to spot everything against Seattle.

The NFC really has very little to commend it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Seahawks just can't function when one of their safeties are missing.

Unluckily for them it's the better of the two, Earl Thomas, that is out as well.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sorry, his Dad, Grandad and fucking Brother are also called Thomas Rawls?

Jesus.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Getting fisted by Matty Choke, ouch.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Seahawks waterboy trying to make plays because the Seattle defence can't.

http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2015/03/10/adam-sandler-gifs/waterboy.w529.h352.gif

That would have been better of course.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.sbnation.com/2017/1/15/14277028/michael-bennett-reporter-tirade-seahawks-vs-falcons

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What a mong Bennett is, that's a bigger seethe (I'm hoping a full video comes out soon) than Cam.

[Ian]

I hope Wixey told him that.

And then shoved him down some stairs.

[Dan]

Whoops :D

Who do we fancy tonight then, lads? Steelers should win unless the weather is so bad KC can just grind out a 13-10, but Dallas & Green Bay could go either way. Rooting for Dallas though, I think.

[Ian]

Steelers will ride Bell to victory. Other game I genuinely don't know, but I'm thinking Green Bay's momentum might do the trick for them.

[Foe]

Fuck you Texans for giving me hope last night. Of course agent Brock was going to throw the game away, repeatedly.

$37 million dollar guaranteed bell end. :mad:

On the plus side, Clowney is looking really fucking good. If he and JJ Watt can be fit at the same time. :drool:

[Giggles]

Steelers in a close one and Cowboys by at least 3 touchdowns.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I want KC to win and a bomb to drop in the other one.

Sadly, I think the Steelers will ride Bell hard and the Cowboys will manage to win.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Rodgers is so damn good at knowing when he has a free play.

[Ian]

Who's the guy who isn't Gayle, Reinebold or Reynolds in the Sky studio?

[Gray Fox]

Well this is a bit of a mauling so far. Who would've had this after the Packers shaky start?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Who's the guy who isn't Gayle, Reinebold or Reynolds in the Sky studio?

Thomas Morstead.

Punter for the Saints who also did the onside kick when they won the Superb Owl.

[Ian]

Punters. :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Antonio Brown isn't so fond of them though.

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/antonio-brown-kicked-the-cleveland-punter-in-the-face-b.gif

The bastard.

[Gray Fox]

Packers looking like they can score at will here.

[Waffdon]

Rodgers is dreamy

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking lol.

[Dan]

Romo to come in before the end of the game?

[Gray Fox]

They're not that desperate.