FIFA 17 - sponsored by Visa, MasterCard, McDonalds etc.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

My run of winning the DKT at the first time of asking has ended at 3.

Had a go last night but some guy made me look like a fool in the second round. I feel that this is going to be hard with any TOTS player as a reward.

[Yevrah]

Oh and forgot to mention that I had a quick bash on FIFA 16 due to it being free on EA Play. What the hell happened there? 17 is light years ahead.

[Gray Fox]

FROSTBITE.

EA let them play with the good toys that their overs dev teams have.

[The Merse]

Well, moving to London has killed FIFA for me. 6 mbps, 20 sec ping is the best I can get in my block, so P2P and FUT Champs is ridiculously unplayable.

I'll be moving out at some stage in the new year I imagine (probably in with the gf), so I'll do a bit more due dilligence on whether there's fibre when it comes to looking for another place.

[Yevrah]

Abandoned the multiple teams method due to getting fucked off at coming up against super teams online and standing even less chance than normal. Sold TOTY Messi (taking a pretty big hit) and decided to build a team utilising better versions of players Premier League players I was already comfortable using.

Still a WIP in terms of finalising the squad and I'll whack it up when it's done, but suffice to say 90 Son is a close to a cheat player as I've used in this game. Phenomenal.

[Yevrah]

Mahow, how did you get on with the 89 Mkhitaryan?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Never tried the 89 but I got on really well with the 88.

I was doing a 4-2-2-2 pre-game before switching to a 4-3-2-1 in game to take advantage of chemistry so I needed someone who was a CM/CAM who was effective on the wing. Didn't get to use him for many games but he was a handful for defenders in each of the games I used him in.

The 89 looks grand if you do the same or put him just behind a striker.

Only downside is the lack of finesse shot trait which is what makes Son amazing though.

[Yevrah]

Cheers.

I'm looking more for a CM to go into the CM position of a 4-1-2-1-2 (2).

86 Can is another option.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Depends on what the rest of your team is and how good you are at defending.

If, like me, you're a bit shit go for Can as he's brilliant. If you want a bit more of an attacking option definitely go for Mkhi.

Also, I've missed Lewandowski so much. 22 goals in 16 matches with 5 assists since I bought the don back.

Hoping that if/when I win the DKT I either pull his 98 or manage to get someone that I can sell to fund him. I'll probably get the cheapest one.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

SBC reward has dropped.

I almost shit my pants when it was a walkout and I saw red and white in the flag.

Groaned when blue also unfurled but it was Toornstra who looks pretty damn nifty but I've got no need for him so I think I'll stick him in a tradeable SBC.

Edit: Some dickheads got 4 TOTS players in the fucking pack.

[Dan]

I got three - Jonas, Dost & Buonanotte. Also had IF Wright-Phillips.

Accidentally quick sold the whole pack, while trying to discard two duplicates :D If it wasn't so funny and/or there was anyone I'd actually have really wanted to use, I'd have been fuming.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well played.

[Dan]

We don't have the :jaw: smilie from the old site but that was my exact reaction for about a minute when I realised I'd binned the whole pack :D

Worst thing about it is that I could've got a tradeable TOTS and/or TOTW player SBC done out of it, but they're usually terrible so I probably wouldn't have got much value out of it.

88 Jonas was shit anyway :cry:

[Yevrah]

I got 2.

Glik and Peralta. Both of which are absolutely useless to me. It would be nice if they added a feature to be able to swap untradeable cards. Also pulled 3 83's an 82 and 3 81's.

Still, they're getting added to the 5 useless TOTS players I pulled this morning, I'll buy one more and convert them into 4 more tradeable SBC submissions. No doubt for more shite.

[Yevrah]

Also, which monstrous tool decided on the Scholes SBC today? Absolutely pointless until the TOTW and TOTS SBC's have expired.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Got Baumann from my first, bought another TOTS and got Sansone.

Meh, I'll go at least one more.

Edit: Fucking Kubo.

I can't stop until I run out of resources or pull something worth at least 100k.

[Yevrah]

Was able to cobble together a tradeable SBC from the pack itself, so did so.

Got quite excited when I saw it was a walkout and even more so when I saw the Brazilian flag. Obviously ended up being another player I can't use and won't sell for much. This time Raul from Maritimo.

[Yevrah]

Are TOTS players likely to rise a bit in price when they're out of packs and SBC's?

Really want TOTS Kante and keen to time it well.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I wish they could change the walkout requirements for TOTS/TOTY players.

It's so shit when you see the delay, get the blue flare and then it's some dickhead.

[Danny]

I got some shithouse Russian keeper who sold for less than 40k. Ffs.

I can't, for the life of me, win these DTK's. I keep getting to the semi final and being matched with people who have blue/orange/IFs out the arse.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Did another tradeable and got Semedo, such a shame he doesn't fit into my first team as he looks incredible.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://i.imgur.com/GnOyCMb.jpg

Fucking dicks.

Almost pissed myself when I saw the Polish flag.

:(

[Yevrah]

https://elmaano.github.io/sbc/

very useful

[John]

That Teodorczyk looks fucking dynamite anyway. Stick an Engine on there and you'll be getting on for 90 in four of the six stats.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I stuck him in another SBC and pulled Ziyech instead.

I think I'm done with them now though.

I'm never going to pull one that is over 40k.

[Yevrah]

Nearly all of the TOTS players are at least good, the issue comes trying to get them into a team and the amount you pull from obscure leagues (that make that a nightmare) is unreal.

I had another three cracks tonight and pulled another three shit ones, with only one walkout. I could put them back in, but I think I'm done too - The reward weighting on good cards from the untradeable TOTS SBC vs the tradeable one (where I had no problem pulling half decent and useful players) is so skewed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Doing some SBCs:

https://www.reddit.com/r/FIFA/comments/6eeetl/imaduckquackks_complete_and_up_to_date_new/?st=J44LQZST&sh=03007c18

Bought an Arsenal 11 and then noticed I had already done it.

:\

Edit: The only one I've even done in the league ffs.

[Yevrah]

Christ, reading that makes me want to start again, which I could do on a separate account. The start is always the best bit.

[Yevrah]

Pop quiz bishes.

TOTS Thiago or 91 Vidal to fill the CAM in a 4-1-2-1-2? Both will be on 8 chemistry.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

As a CAM I'd go for Thiago all day long.

I've just bought TOTS to try him out in midfield.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

9.3 man of the match performance in his debut but now the match starting system is down.

[Yevrah]

Close to finishing the final team(s). One squad of 23, with the following two teams:

https://s7.postimg.org/t12enby4r/image.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/r99fsferr/)

https://s1.postimg.org/ta74dqakv/image.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/68qj7zax7/)

SBC Suarez and SBC Odjidja-Ofoe are in the squad but don't start in either team.

Have just over 200k left to play with and some stuff in the club still to shift, so would welcome suggested improvements.

[Danny]

Ashley Cole in the second team should link with Smalling and Lallana.
Coleman 84 at right back in either side
Schmeichel (anything over 84) into the team. His 88 is reasonable on PS4. Heaton 84 is another option.
Spanish Dave is a good option for leftback too.

Those are all more than reasonable on PS4, think you are on Xbox but at this point shouldn't be bad.

Oh and fire Rooney into the sun :lol:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

His hero card actually works.

EA still vastly overrate him.

[Danny]

Personal opinion more than anything. Eriksen all day for me :drool:

His 85 is quality I can't even imagine his upgrades.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I personally struggled with him.

Son is the best Premiership CAM for me by a huge distance.

[Danny]

I have really enjoyed him so far. Havent had the pleasure of the upgraded Son's though yet.

[Raoul Duke]

Why is Kouyate there? Surely there's someone in Bundesliga/Premiership who's better than him?

[Danny]

Fernandinho would be a better choice if Kouyate is there for his pace.

Matic and Gundogan too

[Gray Fox]

After twice losing in the final of the DKT I finally finished it off. Opened my TOTS reward right there and got exited when I saw Chile. Even more so when it said ST. The disappointment when it was Paredes and not Sanchez, I can't describe.

I decided to turn my unused DKT players in for the tradeable SBC. The good thing is I got away with using 2 full squads of my red FUT champs rewards. I figured it's at least 20k back in discard per player, without putting any coins towards it so why not?

First pack I sent Nacho and Rudy. Got a Bruma back from it. I'll be sticking him on the bench. Him coming on late in games should lol past tired defenders.

For my second pack I traded Callejon and Gylfi in. This happened:

https://i.gyazo.com/81949178ed078a90d6883ba0e7cc19f6.jpg

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You dick :(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

In shitter news, I've just pulled an IF from the worst TOTW ever.

[Gray Fox]

I'm trying to sell him for 600k+ while he's going for that. Only 8 of him on the market right now so it's a maybe. Could add 2/3 players if my plan works out.

[Dan]

Should've just discarded him.

[Gray Fox]

Sold for 620k. Comfortably the best pull I've ever had on any FIFA. My 88 Mertens was 700k at the time but he's untradeable. Brings me up to 740k to spend.

Team looking like so: https://i.gyazo.com/7b85ee34c878ae49f0a9dd018f723b7e.png

I had tried 88 Eriksen as my left CM, shifting Herrera over to the centre, but I was struggling. It's very attacking and Eriksen is clearly a CAM, not a CM. If Herrera went on beyond the ball and I lost it, I was screwed.

Just a case of where I want to spend the cash. I can afford all of the TOTS CAMs as well as looking at 89 Mkhitaryan and 92 Hazard. That'd still leave me enough for a version of Emre Can or Kanté for the middle CM.

Plenty of other options on where to go too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

TOTS Alli and then the best Kante you can buy with the rest.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Finally won the DKT, with this:

http://i.imgur.com/mqvWdHq.jpg

Had to sell 95 Lewandowski and 89 Vidal as I'm lining up something big but Lacazette went fucking bat shit.

Hattrick in the final, 4 in the semi and 1 in each of the first two.

Unfortunately I only got Criscito.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://i.imgur.com/WVq2haZ.png

:cool:

[bruhnaldo]

fuck that's sexy. I could only imagine having such a card.

I really need to go deeper into FUT next year, it must feel pretty rewarding to have a team full of awesome cards.

You guys have like 13 different XI's and I'm afraid to venture away from my Serie A team to the point I can never participate in anything lol

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I only have the one but I've changed it a lot.

[Gray Fox]

They've announced FUTTIES next Friday, which is usually the last big event involved in the FUT year. In the past it's tended to be pink versions of favourite players from the year. I think last year they had a tournament, in which you got 10 tries. 1 tournament win would get you an average player, I think 4 got you a version of Reus and 7 wins got you essentially a pink TOTS Aubameyang. So far they've confirmed:

- End of Era Premium Player SBCs
- FUTTIES voting SBCs
- Marquee Transfer SBCs

I would guess they're all pretty straight forward. You'll be getting the likes of Totti, Alonso, Lahm, maybe Gerrard and Lampard, but with stats from at least close to their prime.
I imagine someone like Renato Sanches to be a big want for the voting SBC. Not had an upgrade card all year so why not?

Transfers speak for themselves. I expect Salah is about the best one at the minute. Hopefully more signings will prompt more of these.

[Yevrah]

An upgraded Renato Sanches would be fapworthy.

[Gray Fox]

I've bought 92 Hazard for 400k, relegating Mertens to the bench. The one thing I don't like about that Hazard is his stamina is only 83, even after all the upgrade cards. Team looks like so:

https://i.gyazo.com/d89d99ee8e9f8c513b17e84b8bac2154.png

Still have 330k to spend. Could get me 85 Kante and TOTS Valencia, amongst other upgrades.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

83? That's horrendous.

Finished the night 4-4 or 4-5. Lewa didn't score in his first three games (seems to happen to me all the time, his 95 took about 8 games) but he then scored 2, 4 and then 2 in his next 3.

For some reason he feels better at long shooting than his 95 for me, despite being on 93 long shots and 99 shot power with hunter compared to his 98 having 93/97 with catalyst. Boosts aren't as powerful as default stats?

Two of his 4 in one game were brilliant, he hammered them in from distance with such force that the keeper would have lost his hand had he got anywhere near them.

[Gray Fox]

His 94 rated card only has 90 stamina. Which isn't bad under normal circumstances but when you realise it's his 6th revision, it's a little crap. His TOTS has 97, so EA really don't think his stamina is up to much. The card I bought however has 94 goals in 70 games so he's obviously been effective to his previous owners.

There is an option for me to sell Lukaku on and move Hazard forward. I'd have close to 600k to spend then. I wouldn't then mind looking at bringing in someone like TOTS Eriksen as the CAM, but I'm not sure exactly how much there is to gain there.

[Yevrah]

Mane despite still supposedly having good stats on 5 chemistry is sadly wank, so he's off. Think I can sell him for 349k, which given he only cost 315k is a tidy profit.

Thiago isn't good enough either, too small and gets drowned out by high pressing wankers too much. So he'll be off too for a couple of grand loss.

Which brings me onto my next point, I simply can't cope with teams that do that, no matter what I try. They're just absolutely all over me and it's borderline infuriating. If I can crack the tossers that employ those tactics then I think it's a one way ticket to the weekend league.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm shit against them too, I just try to complete a lot of passes in the hopes of finding some space.

[Yevrah]

Oh and does anyone on Xbox want a game? I could do with some constructive criticism.

[Yevrah]

I'm shit against them too, I just try to complete a lot of passes in the hopes of finding some space.

What passes are you using to move the ball around when you do that? Drilled, a button jobs or something else?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

A mixture but mainly just short normal passes (with the button to make the passer run forward, L1 on PS), also try to hit some lofted through balls (put it on manual, takes some getting used to but they become so much better) to take a defender or two out of the game.

I just know that I can't cope keeping the ball with one player for too long as I suck at dribbling.

[Yevrah]

How the fuck have I just played an online match and got a multiplier of 0.27? 427 coins for a 7-1 win.

[Gray Fox]

If it helps I have a go to tactic that seems to work well. I have my CAM set to stay forward so I essentially have 3 players waiting up top. As soon as I get the ball I'm looking for an RB + A pass drilled into his feet. From there he should have one of 7 options on. One of the two strikers, 3 CMs or one of the two full-backs. Pass to the most open player, unless someone is making a good run.

There's 2 things at play with FIFA, when considering most players.

1. Attacking assumes the ball must always go forward.

I see this a lot. People try and force the ball forward with every pass. Mostly this ends up with an easily intercepted pass or an ambitious through ball to nothing. People do it when attacking, but more importantly they also assume it when defending. Always passing to the player in space is the best way or getting the ball up the pitch.

2. People want the ball back right away.

This is especially noticable against guys who press a lot. Their problem is they will charge the ball down without thinking. Using the above tactic of just moving the ball around them will cause them massive problems. Let's say you make 4 good passes past their press. You're looking at 3 players or so being out of position. That could be their entire midfield, in which case you're through on their defence. Or better yet you've just cut through their defence. Annoying as these players are, you'll find once you get them close to their own area they will panic defend. It's just a case of getting there.

[Yevrah]

Cheers Fox, I'll give the drilling to the CAM a go.

Moving the ball up the pitch too quickly is something I've consciously been working on, particularly not abusing the through ball button and using the left and right triggers to hold the ball up and wait for runners, but I've still a way to go.

In SBC based news, I spent about 100k yesterday polishing off the worthwhile SBC's I hadn't yet done (down to Jumbo Premium Golds) and after I finish off one last annoying (loyalty driven) hybrid today (and maybe 6 more Serie A ones, which aren't worthwhile, but I will get Higuain), I think that's it. There will be no more worthwhile SBC's left to do. :sob: I've kept the 20 packs on ice for next weekend.

To keep this going over the summer, EA really should whack some more league based ones up. Futties (eurgh) will presumably be good, but that will only take us to the end of July and there'll still be two months left before FIFA 18 launches.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Chucked in the WL after 3 losses on the spin yesterday.

It's just so many games in such a short time span. They really need to make changes for next year.

[Yevrah]

You're basically looking at 10 hours solid, no? Seems a bit extreme.

[Gray Fox]

Sold on 89 Lukaku. TTH decides what I do with the 580k I have.

1) TOTS Lukaku + TOTS Keane
2) TOTS Eriksen + TOTS Azpilacueta
3) TOTS Azpilacueta + TOTS Valencia + 86 Kante

Essentially there's a mix and match I can do now with the Premier League TOTS cards. For now I've put Hazard up to ST and I have Mertens off chem as my CAM still. Essentially the choice I'm asking is, do I get 1 big player going forward(with a defensive addition behind), or spread the cash about the midfield and defence?

Also yes the WL is far too much at present. If you consider it's 6 mins of play per half, Including loading etc. You're looking at 20 mins per match. So 3 per hour means you need to find 13 hours in a weekend. That's assuming no rage quits of course.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You're basically looking at 10 hours solid, no? Seems a bit extreme.

Few more.

It also sucks that European hours are basically reduced as it starts and finishes at 7am (might be 8 now with time changes) which is fucking horrible.

Especially the end, 7am on a Monday morning? You're forced into doing a lot more on Friday/Saturday or staying up late to try and finish.

I think I've only ever finished all 40 twice and one of those was because it was extended by 12 hours.

[Yevrah]

Sold on 89 Lukaku. TTH decides what I do with the 580k I have.

1) TOTS Lukaku + TOTS Keane
2) TOTS Eriksen + TOTS Azpilacueta
3) TOTS Azpilacueta + TOTS Valencia + 86 Kante

Essentially there's a mix and match I can do now with the Premier League TOTS cards. For now I've put Hazard up to ST and I have Mertens off chem as my CAM still. Essentially the choice I'm asking is, do I get 1 big player going forward(with a defensive addition behind), or spread the cash about the midfield and defence?

Also yes the WL is far too much at present. If you consider it's 6 mins of play per half, Including loading etc. You're looking at 20 mins per match. So 3 per hour means you need to find 13 hours in a weekend. That's assuming no rage quits of course.

If you liked Lukaku (and I think you did) it's got to be option 1.

Gutted I didn't stock up on IFs and TOTS players before the SBC's closed, in the main they're all going for far more. Ben Yedder is about 5-10k more I think, for example.

Also, I'm tempted by Ibrahimovic, has anyone used him?

[Gray Fox]

I've never used Zlatan. I can't say I've faced him much this year either. I think he's gotten to the point now where he was too slow to use.

Having looked at it. It's a close run thing between 92 Hazard and TOTS Eriksen for my CAM spot. Eriksen pulls his pants down in almost everything, including that 5* weak foot. However Hazard is quite a bit faster than him and is more agile. Eriksen is a little cheaper, which I feel is a reflection of the pace stat.

I could swap Hazard for Eriksen for no loss of coins essentially, but not sure which of the two is my best option. I'm pretty sure I'll be having TOTS Lukaku either way. I'd like to upgrade Kante too if there's coins left. Maybe a version of Emre Can instead.

I could also do damage by bringing in TOTS Diego Costa instead of Lukaku, but again the speed thing is there.

I'm spoilt for choice.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'd rather have Eriksen tbh.

[Danny]

What I am slumming it with right now



Picked up Ozil, Lloris, Coutinho and Zaha yesterday. The latter really just to try out as I am strugging to find a winger I really like. Thinking about trying Shaquiri, not sure if anyone has experience with him

http://i.imgur.com/W4V2iQe.jpg

[Danny]

Finally finished Brazil today on the SBC. Packed 88 ST Sanchez :drool:

[Yevrah]

Nice.

Did the Paul Scholes SBC (I needed to feed the SBC addiction) and then used him to do the quad challenge single player cup thing. I'm gonna need to get a legend permanently as he made it so much easier to put my league SBC players in - was rocking a largely prem team, but with Lewandoski and Lacazette up front and the chemistry wasn't shite.

[Danny]

That one wasnt offered here :rolleyes:

[John]

How do they work the chemistry with legends?

I'll have to deal with that shite next year, so knowing how it works would be nice.

[Yevrah]

That one wasnt offered here :rolleyes:

Was only a 20 game loan Danny, so not missing much. He's quite nice to use but a bit small and slow.

[Yevrah]

How do they work the chemistry with legends?

I'll have to deal with that shite next year, so knowing how it works would be nice.

They get an orange link with anyone and a green one with a player of the same nationality. No bonus for being linked with anyone who plays for one of the clubs in their career.

[John]

Essentially free slots for hybrid squads then. How fun.

[Yevrah]

I love the massive chip you have on your shoulder against Legends. :D

In all honesty you don't come up against them that often, so I doubt you'll even notice them if you choose not to use them.

Just finished off the last hybrid SBC that I hadn't done. Couldn't be arsed with glitch quitting so just racked up 10 straight losses to see it home. And with that, all the worthwhile SBC's are done.

[Danny]

Was only a 20 game loan Danny, so not missing much. He's quite nice to use but a bit small and slow.

Woulnt have minded the option though! Or a shot at a different legend. Could have just been one who, if any of them did, played in the MLS or something.


I love the massive chip you have on your shoulder against Legends. :D

In all honesty you don't come up against them that often, so I doubt you'll even notice them if you choose not to use them.

Just finished off the last hybrid SBC that I hadn't done. Couldn't be arsed with glitch quitting so just racked up 10 straight losses to see it home. And with that, all the worthwhile SBC's are done.

I am now working through that list on Reddit Mahow posted. Spreadsheeted and organized by reward so I cant work through the cheap shite.

[John]

I love the massive chip you have on your shoulder against Legends. :D

It's not really a chip, I just don't like the idea and have always been glad they were XBox only. This is like hearing about the first case of ebola in the UK after months of hearing about people dying of it in Africa. Even if I'm unlikely to be affected by it, I don't like it being that close.

Maybe it is a chip, actually.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Woulnt have minded the option though! Or a shot at a different legend. Could have just been one who, if any of them did, played in the MLS or something.



I am now working through that list on Reddit Mahow posted. Spreadsheeted and organized by reward so I cant work through the cheap shite.

I finished it a few days ago, I had done a lot more than I had imagined.

Brazilian one in the Tour was so shit.

I should have a look at the ones that I haven't done to see how much profit there is potentially in them.

[Yevrah]

In the main (bar a couple of notable exceptions, I'm looking at you Rangers and the Saudi League) anything that gives you a Jumbo Premium Gold pack and above is worth doing.

I'm considering bringing in Zola and TOTS Tolisso. Is the latter as good as his stats suggest?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yes, he's brilliant.

[Yevrah]

Cheers Mahow.

Actually, fuck, I'm not a million miles off being able to bring in TOTS Lacazette (who looks close to perfect), TOTS Tolisso and Zola.

If I opened the 21 packs I'm sat on and got some decent pulls I'd probably be there.

But nothing left for the Futties. Decisions, decisions.

[John]

Get two of the three and hold fire on the third until whenever you're saving the packs for.

[Danny]

And by two of the three John means dont get Zola ;)

[Yevrah]

Decided to hold fire on all three for now as I have Scholes for another 14 games and given I rotate quite a bit that's basically 20+ matches to play.

[Gray Fox]

This is nice to see.

https://i.gyazo.com/1cc1695c19c75357fd6b0827771fb873.png

Prices seem to be dropping. I've got a few figures in mind for the players I want. If they drop low enough I'll pick them up. I'm still torn on quantity vs quality, but we'll see how that goes.


EDIT: 65k left but now have this:

https://i.gyazo.com/7711119047821337bd50f7b4a95e5145.png

[Gray Fox]

The decision essentially boiled down to Eriksen vs Alli for my CAM spot. The latter is stronger and faster, but lacks a weak foot. The other problem with bringing Alli in is my RCM is his POTM card. So the extra 100k+ saved by getting him instead, would have had to go straight on another CM. Said CM would most likely have been either Pogba, 85/86 Emre Can or TOTS Lallana.

The only player I'd really change now is Smalling. He's played 785 games for me, but his "age" is showing. All of these fast TOTS strikers make him look silly at times now.

[Yevrah]

One does get attached to players. Which is why I've still got Kouyate in my squad and don't want to let him go.

[Danny]

Some lad on Reddit had 1000 games with Cattermole :lol:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It was probably Cattermole.

I know David Meyler is big into FUT.

[Yevrah]

Was thinking about this today and if I sell Hererra I might just have enough to bring the three players above in now. I'm itching to do it but should probably wait or at least spreadsheet the shit out of it first.

[Danny]

It was probably Cattermole.

I know David Meyler is big into FUT.

It was only his base card. Dont pros get an upgraded one?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It was only his base card. Dont pros get an upgraded one?

Yeah, Martial has one:

https://i.redd.it/voetr1hyibry.jpg

And here are more with actual stats:

http://www.futwiz.com/en/proplayers/fifa17

Asoro looks mental.

[Yevrah]

Picked up a clean Zola for 115k just now. Will probably try and sell him while I run loan Scholes down and see how much profit I can make, there should be a bit given he hasn't been used.

If I don't sell him by the time Scholes goes I may just bang him in.

[Danny]

Yeah, Martial has one:

And here are more with actual stats:

http://www.futwiz.com/en/proplayers/fifa17

Asoro looks mental.

That Regan Poole one. Christ

https://www.reddit.com/r/FIFA/comments/6ksyn2/i_call_this_cattermole_to_glory/

[Gray Fox]

Disappointingly the TOTS Lukaku isn't much of an upgrade on that 89 I was using. He just doesn't feel like he has 96 sprint speed. It's either his low acceleration but I think more likely is his very low agility and balance. So I've sold him back and can now afford essentially any premier league striker that's not TOTS Zlatan or TOTS Sanchez.

I can go full on and grab someone like Sanchez or Agueros top IF card, even a version of Hazard. Or I could split it and grab 86 ST Martial and try to pick up the TOTS Alli or Azpi too.

TOTS Eriksen is a dream. Literally the only thing wrong with him is he could use a bump of pace. Everything else is perfect.

[John]

Disappointingly the TOTS Lukaku isn't much of an upgrade on that 89 I was using. He just doesn't feel like he has 96 sprint speed. It's either his low acceleration but I think more likely is his very low agility and balance. So I've sold him back and can now afford essentially any premier league striker that's not TOTS Zlatan or TOTS Sanchez.

I can go full on and grab someone like Sanchez or Agueros top IF card, even a version of Hazard. Or I could split it and grab 86 ST Martial and try to pick up the TOTS Alli or Azpi too.

TOTS Eriksen is a dream. Literally the only thing wrong with him is he could use a bump of pace. Everything else is perfect.

I'd have a hard time believing any striker actually performs better than IF Andre Gray, so if you need upgrades elsewhere in the side grab him and go big on those.

[Gray Fox]

Looking into it, Costa also has the same low balance and agility problem that Lukaku suffers from. Kane however has 90 agility. I'm interested in trying him out to see if it's that. His balance is still low and he has much lower acceleration than his sprint speed.

TOTS Alli bought for 230k. Looks a massive upgrade on his 86 card. Leaves me with 250k to spend. I could go with TOTS Kane and TOTS Keane.


John I had no idea Andre Gray had gone so cheap. 27k on XB1. I remember him being 100k+ and going almost instantly.

[Yevrah]

I love TOTS Kane. There are better cards out there, but he works a treat if you pair him with someone pacey with good dribbling and a creator behind.

[Yevrah]

Two things struck me today.

I'm thinking of moving away from the 4-1-2-1-2 (2) as I think the lack of width isn't helping me. Any suggestions on what the best wide formations are?

Additionally, by spamming two or three legends into the squad I should be able to link in some of the cracking players from obscure leagues, like Smolov, for example.

[Reg]

Are you any good with 3 at the back? I quite like the 3-5-2 where the centre mids are deeper than the wide mids (no10 in front).

Otherwise the 'wide 4-2-3-1' is alright, a bit negative though.

I don't play UT btw, so things may be different.

[John]

I like whichever 4-3-3 it is which has the midfield structured as one CDM and two CMs. Doesn't have as much hybrid potential as some of the more convoluted formations but it's fundamentally sound at the back so it's a good basis for however you want to play going forward.

[Yevrah]

Cheers gents, just looking through the legends to see who is worthwhile and I'll then decide on formation. I'm veering towards one with three at the back as I'd still like to have two strikers.

[Danny]

I use 4-3-3 (4)

Two CM's and one CAM.

[Gray Fox]

The 4-3-3 that has the false 9. You wont be pinging through balls in behind all day, but that's very good for width and playing triangles to keep the ball. Quite defensively solid too as you can just use the CF to hound the ball down and leave the entire team behind you.

[Yevrah]

How do you do the celebration where your player runs towards the camera face on?

[Gray Fox]

Just run at the camera guy. They're random from then on. Like the ad board ones, you've no control over which it does.

[Yevrah]

More detail on the futties:

https://www.easports.com/fifa/ultimate-team/news/2017/futties?utm_campaign=fut17_hd_ww_ic_soco_twt_futti es-announcement&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cid=33434&ts=1499197106751

Looks like they're going balls deep, albeit if voting consists of doing an SBC where the only reward is the player in pink then why would anyone bother?

[Gray Fox]

If they do a release a version of Lacazette at Arsenal in any kind of upgraded fashion, I'll not care if they put sparkles and rainbows on it. I will sell everything.


The voting by completing the SBC of said player is a very interesting concept.

[Yevrah]

If they do a release a version of Lacazette at Arsenal in any kind of upgraded fashion, I'll not care if they put sparkles and rainbows on it. I will sell everything.


The voting by completing the SBC of said player is a very interesting concept.

I love the idea, but it seems somewhat ruined by the fact that the reward is a bit useless. Well, unless you need that card to do the actual upgraded player SBC, which now I think about it you probably will.

We're so getting an upgraded Renato Sanches. :drool:

[Gray Fox]

I can see it being a bit a of a pain if you pick the "wrong" player. They should make it so it costs next to nothing to complete the player, if you have the pink version already by doing their voting SBC.

You may find it almost necessary to complete every player just in case.

Upgraded Sanches, Smalling and Bailly. Just imagine.

[Yevrah]

All three of those have gone up in value over the last few days. I have Smalling and Renato Sanches already, but I should probably pick up a Bailly just in case.

[Gray Fox]

I bought TOTS Kane and played through division 7. All wins and pretty easy at that. I didn't get to properly test him out for 2 reasons. Firstly I was dominating games, and so with my opponent sat back it was just a case of popping passed into space around the box and having shots.
My other problem is that 3 of my games saw my opponent quit after I went up early. I was 2-0 in the first two and then only 1-0 in the last of those. It seems people see the team and think fuck it.

Overall he seemed faster than Lukaku did and I think it is down to that agility. But I'll stick with him and try the DKT to see what he's like against tougher opponents.

I will say one thing though. I'm having to re-learn how to finish. Usually I put 1/4 power and the player will put their laces into it, but not too hard so as to send it by the goalkeeper about knee height. But these guys are all so good at finishing they do an animation where, with the same power applied, do a sidefooted shot that goes more along the ground. In doing so it loses a lot of power and it's a much more saveable shot. There's no better feeling than emphatically thumping one in with Kane. The rest seem to try and place them. He tries to take the net with it.

[Yevrah]

On the agility and balance I think they're so key. There are players with dribbling over 90 on the face of the card, but poor numbers in those areas so they won't play anything like it as a result.

[Yevrah]

Do we reckon it's safe to assume there won't be any new cards in packs as a result of the Futties stuff above?

[Gray Fox]

They've said on Twitter that FUTTIES items will be SBC only. Not in packs.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

FIFA 12: TOTW 41
FIFA 13: TOTW 42
FIFA 14: TOTW 40
FIFA 15: TOTW 43
FIFA 16: TOTW 39,42
FIFA 17: TOTW 42

Lee Dong Gook, the late season hero.

[Yevrah]

I opened my 21 packs earlier and pulled him, but accidentally discarded the entire pack he was in. :moop:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You shambles.

[Yevrah]

Indeed.

[Gray Fox]

After disconnecting while winning in the semi-final, I've done the DKT at the second attempt. It's safe to say Eriksen and Kane are very good. I think I won 4-1, 7-1, 4-1 and 5-1. The guy put his controller down in the 2nd and last games. The 7-1 was level at half time too. But I scored multiple times in a few minutes and they have enough. The guy in the final had a full Ligue 1 TOTS team. That first half was so tricky. Those cards are fast as hell and intercept anything. I'd figured him out by the 2nd half though and used it to my advantage.

The Spurs trio up front works really nicely. Eriksen makes some lovely runs, but both Son and Kane being High/High workrates next to him is nice. They also drop back when defending which helps for playing your way out. It can be a little annoying when you'd be wanting someone on the shoulder of the last defender, but holding the ball a few seconds more will fix that.

[Yevrah]

Did the Marquee Matchups almost exclusively from players I had in the club and in even better news pulled 89 Hazard. A player I was actively considering buying for my 3-5-2. Must be a first that.

[Danny]

One left to go, which I have to buy a player for to meet the requirements, and I have packed Matip, (83), Alli (82) and Coleman (82). So I will make my money back atleast.

[Yevrah]

Looks like End of an Era Futties tonight. I still have Lampard in the club, but annoyingly sold Gerrard a month or so ago.

[Yevrah]

First glance it looks like they've nailed this.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That Totti :drool:

[Yevrah]

What does 2 FUT Champions Reward players mean?

If it means what I think it does then that can fuck right off.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

2 red ones.

[Yevrah]

Ok, scrap my praise.

The Marquee transfers cards all being just their base stats and on loan is wank and needing a FUT Champions reward to get Totti can also die in a fire.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've decided to be cautious and do both Smalling and Bailly just in case you need the winner's pink card.

[Gray Fox]

So Totti is perfect, right up to the point where he has 70 stamina. He's going to be dead in the 60th minute.

Given the amount you need to give up for him, I think I'll pass on this one. I'll do Smalling just for the sake of having a pink one of him. If he gets the upgrade, great but if he doesn't, I wont use the other 2 anyway.

I also want an Arsenal Lacazette, however he's insta-selling for 100k on both platforms. Absolute madness. I'm also quite disappointed that it's just the standard card. There should at least have been some kind of upgrade.

[Danny]

I've decided to be cautious and do both Smalling and Bailly just in case you need the winner's pink card.

My plan too.

[Gray Fox]

By the looks of this tweet you could use Smallings card in Baillys SBC for example. Just so long as you vote in one.

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[Danny]

Had the players to do them anyway. I have Bailly in my rotation and thought about Smalling. No real loss.

[Yevrah]

I'm also quite disappointed that it's just the standard card. There should at least have been some kind of upgrade.

They really have managed to fuck this. If the end of an era requirements all involve a FUT Champions reward and the marquee transfer SBC's are all loans then that's two sets of SBC's a week that I can't/won't bother with, leaving just the pink cards.

[Gray Fox]

Yep, this has been a big let down personally. I mean if they aren't going to give these 'premium' SBC players any kind of reasonable stamina, they're pointless. Similarly these standard transferred versions are pointless, minus maybe Lacazette by this point in the game. At least make the SBC version an upgrade.

Looking at last year the FUTTIES items are looking at anything from a 2 to 4 point stat upgrade. So assuming Smalling wins we get an 86-88 version of him. Most likely looking at 80 pace and 90 or so in both defending and physical.

One thing to note that I missed. Past SBCs are apparently returning. It doesn't say if it's every single one, but apparently certain ones will come back. It looks likely that FUTMAS, FUT Birthday and EPL POTM SBCs will come up again. With having an EPL team that last SBC set interests me. I didn't have the coin for Hazard back when he came out and Lukaku would also be good. It all depends on how expensive they make them.

[Yevrah]

Did all three Futties in the end, but probably won't use Umtiti.

Nice to see they've added IFs to the FUT Champions requirement.

Next task is to finish off a couple of league SBCs that I'm in touching distance of to bolster the SBC rewards Ibcan use.

Annoyingly I've used the Belgian and Turkish rewards already.

[Gray Fox]

Done my duty and completed Smalling. Managed to do it with untradeables from the club. The pink card looks good too.

Hopefully the winner one will see you having to hand over that pink card and not a lot else. At this point in the game they shouldn't be asking for the world in exchange for players. More almost giving them away as thank yous to those still playing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Indeed.

The player size must be shrinking quite a bit right now.

[Dan]

Did all three, although I'm barely playing at the minute, so just dipping in & out to do the SBCs.

Thinking of selling up a lot of my TOTS players & making a BPL side or just trying out a different hybrid. Would probably have about 500k to spend, although I'm waiting until we know what we'll need for the Futties winner SBCs. Speaking of which, I'm very much looking forward to the prospect of a boosted Renato Sanches to chuck back into my Bundesliga side :drool:

Those Marquee Transfer & End of an Era SBCs are typically LOL from EA. Futties will probably be every bit as awful as TOTS was, although hopefully a lot of the re-released SBCs will prove to be affordable.

[Danny]

Bournemouth and Chelsea away from finishing the Prem SBC.

The formers silvers are stupid expense.

[Gray Fox]

Well now...

https://i.gyazo.com/6e8cc41080423d25c5120421070afdcd.png

I was really close.

[Yevrah]

EA are cunts for making the requirement 84.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Indeed.

[Yevrah]

Got Smalling and (given I want to keep Bailly and Umtiti) I also did Butland's tonight too.

[Yevrah]

Is there a list anywhere of old (player reward based) SBC's and their requirements?

[Danny]

Who do we reckon the midfielders will be in the futties then?

Sanches is probably one. I might pick up one or two of his OTW card just in case....

[Danny]

I did the Begoviv and Butland SBCs too. Needed a sub keeper as I traded in my untradeable Begovic in for the Chelsea SBC. Figured I can keep one and use one in another Futties SBC as I want to keep the Bailly.

Got the 87 Smalling and 87 Kane from SBCs last night too.

[Gray Fox]

Did the Smalling SBC with essentially the last of my reds and untradeable golds.

He's a proper menace. Seems to intercept everything. Comes away with the ball in tackles more too. I expect it might be closer between Butland and Begovic than I think. Still, Butland gets my nod. Also you can't use the kit you get with Smalling. You're just advertising you have him and people back straight out.

You'll probably see Sanches, but I'm not sure who else. Maybe Kante but he has lots of other cards. Mousa Dembele or Nainggolan. Possibly also Matuidi.

[Danny]

Never going to stop using my Ajax kits anyway :cool:

I can't imagine they would do another Kante. Would be madness

[Gray Fox]

They've released some of the backdated SBCs. But they've gone and made them all loan rewards only. Kind of pointless.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That El Rondo SBC for a OTW is a cunt.

Especially as I only got Guedes :(

[Dan]

Loan only re-release SBCs?! :roflol:

They've absolutely bottled the end of season stuff. Both TOTS & Futties have been disgraceful. I might not even bother getting the boosted Futtie cards at this rate.

[Gray Fox]

Indeed. Twitter/Reddit is currently trying to take them to task over it, but they'll probably just ignore it.

It's a shambles. This end of season stuff is supposed to reward those still playing, not laugh at them.

[Yevrah]

The re-run SBC's being loans is a new low. What the fuck were they thinking?

[Yevrah]

That El Rondo SBC for a OTW is a cunt.

Especially as I only got Guedes :(

How did you do it? I can only get to 61 chemistry so far, and I still have a shed load of wank golds in the club so must have the players in there somewhere.

[Yevrah]

Done it.

3 pairs of leagues.

[Yevrah]

Fucking Morgan Schneiderlin.

He's getting put into an end of an era SBC.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It was something like this:

https://www.futbin.com/17/squad/5071935

Basically 3 from one league, 3 from another and the final being a national link between the two.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

At least you got an 82.

Guedes is only 77 so absolutely fucking useless.

[Dan]

I did it & got Sakho, so I'll probably use him for something at some point. Had to use two Futties cards (did Trapp just to bung him in) & an untradeable TOTS player in the Smalling SBC as I don't have any spare gold cards between 83 & 87 rated :D Also had to do the loyalty glitch to get up to chem. Not looking good considering I want to do at least two more (Butland & Sanches). I do at least have 350k+ in spare coins to be able to buy 85 rated players with though, so I should be fine, if a little poorer at the end of it.

Might do a couple of the SBCs, since they're pretty easy, but then half the players are shit by end of game standards so maybe I'll just do them if I have the stuff in my club,

[Yevrah]

If you're talking league SBC's and you have gold packs still on the table I'd do them. Due to the El Rondo SBC any old shit (from a reasonably well represented nation playing abroad) is going for hugely inflated sums. I have shitloads of players that were worth buttons previously that I hadn't been arsed to sell as a result. I made a cuppa and came back to find I'd sold 9 players for 17k. Wallace at Lazio for 3,900 coins, Defrel at Sassulo for 2,600.

Must be up to about 100k in the last half an hour alone. :cool:

[Danny]

Did the OTW with players from the club while on mobile. Going to wait until I am on the PlayStation to open the pack

Suspense :drool:

[Yevrah]

Who is the best player that could be pulled?

[Danny]

Assuming it's all of them 93 Higuain

http://www.futhead.com/ones-to-watch/

[Danny]

That El Rondo SBC for a OTW is a cunt.

Especially as I only got Guedes :(


Did the OTW with players from the club while on mobile. Going to wait until I am on the PlayStation to open the pack

Suspense :drool:

Same FFS

[Gray Fox]

Pogba is the best pull, but good luck with that.

[Danny]

The amount of shitty golds that are selling right now :drool:

[Yevrah]

I'm averaging about 2k a player and I've sold 100 already.

[Yevrah]

Just picked up TOTS Keita for 154k.

[Danny]

Anyone used Ibra?

I am thinking about doing the loan thing and seeing how he is.

Current Squad

http://i.imgur.com/T3fktPF.jpg

I am thinking I can sell Sanchez, get his 87 and chuck that out left in rotation with Martial. Then look to pick up Ibra/Aguero to play upfront. The fact I havent seen anyone use either of those worries me though.

Same with De Bruyne. Anyone tired him? I never see him.

Without silly money I am struggling to think where I can improve.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Don't see the point of the MM's this week.

Free Scream player? Unless they're going to boost them again it's bollocks.

[Danny]

I have a few Mexican players and a midgetland player so I'll probably do them

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just realised that I've never tried the draft mode so I plunged in:

http://i.imgur.com/h5Cay4v.jpg

Can't wait to try out that Nainggolan, Modric and Pogba.

Second go is even better:

http://i.imgur.com/rn5hqd9.jpg

I'm going to sell my team tomorrow and just keep playing this, doing SBCs and ripping packs.

[Danny]

Pirlo from ultimate scream so meh in the end.

I will however make more than enough back from the 8 fitness cards I got to break even before I sell anything else

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I got Ziyech which is pretty shit.

Vardy was the best player in terms of coins I got.

http://i.imgur.com/fPem9r6.jpg

oof.

[Gray Fox]

The team is so good, but the chemistry makes my eyes burn.

Did Butland just now. I didn't realise I had a bunch of low rated untradeable golds left over from those league upgrade SBCs. I only have about 6-7 reds left now, with them all being 84+. The only player I needed to buy for this was Gray to link up with another Burnley player. I will however need to fork out for the actual SBC, but I'd sell De Gea(assuming Butland goes up to 85 or so) on to use him so it's not all bad.

They said a new FUTTIES SBC every Tues/Fri along with the winner too. So they next one should be up in half an hour. Might well have to wait til Tuesday for the winner SBC though. Unless they put that up later tonight.

[Gray Fox]

Good lord.

https://i.gyazo.com/6389aa59e09c34e9674eb3e02981a89c.png

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The team is so good, but the chemistry makes my eyes burn.

Did Butland just now. I didn't realise I had a bunch of low rated untradeable golds left over from those league upgrade SBCs. I only have about 6-7 reds left now, with them all being 84+. The only player I needed to buy for this was Gray to link up with another Burnley player. I will however need to fork out for the actual SBC, but I'd sell De Gea(assuming Butland goes up to 85 or so) on to use him so it's not all bad.

They said a new FUTTIES SBC every Tues/Fri along with the winner too. So they next one should be up in half an hour. Might well have to wait til Tuesday for the winner SBC though. Unless they put that up later tonight.
That's what it looked like in game.

I made it a bit better by using Asensio and Benzema pre-match.

Current team is worse and with only 78 chemistry.

Edit: Also, woof.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Not too keen on the new Futtie nominees.

Bellarabi, Lucas and Sane? Meh.

Guess Sane will win.

[Gray Fox]

Yeah zero fucks given to the RWs.

They also extended the time on those throwback SBCs that were loans. People are speculating this is to introduce permanent versions along side. I want to do Alonso as a Liverpool fan. I really really do.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm thinking about doing Lahm as I always loved the little man.

[Danny]

Another who doesn't give a shit about the RW here. I have Lloris in goal so won't bother with Butland.

[Dan]

I could actually do Lahm from stuff I have in the club if I wanted to :drool: He'd be a pretty great upgrade on SIF Piszczek in my Bundesliga side, and all I'd have to use were IF Sneijder & a few 87 TOTS cards that are also from my hybrid that I was thinking of binning anyway. 77 days left, mind, so maybe I'll wait a little bit & see if anything else even better comes along, but I'm very tempted.

I'd like Bellarabi to win, since I could use another RF in that side, but there's no chance he actually gets the nod over Sane. Need to pick up a few more high rated players to be able to do the Butland SBC too.

[Gray Fox]

Lahm has been upped to 99 stamina, which I thought was them learning their lesson. Then I see Alonso has 78 stamina. God damn it EA.

[Yevrah]

I was tempted by both actually, but now I've seen that Lahm is the only viable one.

And I used Sane a lot when I first got into this so I'd welcome an upgrade, albeit it probably won't be enough to make him usable.

[Yevrah]

All the cheaper end TOTS cards appear to be going extinct. Which is a shame as I quite fancy doing Lahm.

[Dan]

Part of me wants to flog my unwanted TOTS cards for some good money, but at the same time I know that if I do I'll end up needing them & they'll have gone extinct.

I've just noticed that Andre Silva, whose TOTS cards was regularly going over 100k not too long ago, is now capped at 85k max. Same for Semedo, actually :cab:

[Yevrah]

That's twice TOTS Semedo's cap's been changed then. :cab:

Pulled Bellerin Scream from MM. Could have been worse and I might use him.

[Gray Fox]

De Gea has dropped 15k in price just today. I wonder why...

[Gray Fox]

I've just played 5 games of the WL and won all of them. Kane has started to slow his goal tally down but Eriksen keeps going. Kane has 21 in 22 while Eriksen has 33 in 22. I sometimes even chuckle when he pops yet another one in. His shot is lazer guided with either foot.

This is bringing me to my next topic. 4 of those 5 opponents instantly paused and went in to make changes to formation/personel. I've been thinking about doing the same. It'd finally get Son on full chemistry(he's been on 7 chem for 190 games and he still seemed great). But it might allow me to bring in some players to try out.

I could get TOTS Salah in there pretty easily. I also wouldn't mind getting TOTS Keita into the side as an alternative, but he's a lot more tricky given his club/nationality.

[Yevrah]

Got Lahm.

Cost about 150k in TOTS and IFs and the rest I could do from the club.

Only played one game with him (with basic Chem) but he seems a beast.

[Yevrah]

https://s13.postimg.org/j1v1avpon/Untitled.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/7pift3gzn/)

https://s24.postimg.org/3x7z0lv6t/Untitled_2.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/f9kkie3vl/)

With Kane on the bench of both teams.

Still a work in progress (particularly the left backs) but got just under 500k left, 90 Son on the trade pile and probably another 50k-100k of crap in the club, which is like a part time job sorting through it all.

TOTS Lewandowski seriously appeals.

[Yevrah]

I can't be arsed to change the picture, but Renato Sanches should be the standard gold card, not the OTW.

[Gray Fox]

You need to create a TTH trading guide for FIFA 18. You've got better than me there and I've over a thousand games played.

How is TOTS Keita? I want to use him, but it'd mean a fair amount of jiggling about to pay that off and make it happen.

[Yevrah]

IF Leighton Baines and an IF version of Marcos Alonso are really the only decent options at left back (without murdering chemistry) it seems.

[Yevrah]

You need to create a TTH trading guide for FIFA 18. You've got better than me there and I've over a thousand games played.

How is TOTS Keita? I want to use him, but it'd mean a fair amount of jiggling about to pay that off and make it happen.

I struck a bit lucky with the El Rondo SBC coming back as I had about 200 players in the club that generated somewhere close to half a million coins as a result, and realistically I must have put £50-£100 into packs (if you add it all up), but the two things that have definitely made me shitloads since I got back into this are silver trading (which has zero risk) and the SBC's (I've done every single one down to Jumbo Premium Gold and most of the golds below that too), which are impossible not to make money from.

As for TOTS Keita, I love him. And at 154k was an absolute bargain.

[Yevrah]

The other thing as well is that I've sold my teams before each market crash and then bought players back afterwards, but I'd like some continuity in FIFA18 so won't be doing that so much.

Stories of your Walker playing over 700 games were quite cool Fox.

[Gray Fox]

I've had to retire Smalling on 800 games in favour of his pink card. Martial has just over 500 and I think Kante has 600+ but he's been retired too in favour of his OTW. I can't tell with Walker as I've bought and sold him many times through the year.

I didn't really start getting the proper quality teams this year until about February. I wouldn't mind improving on that, next time out.

I want to try TOTS Keita but I can't figure out a hybrid to work him in, whilst keeping the players I like.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just take a chemistry hit.

I've had players on 6 in main teams and 4 in draft. It's fine.

Tried TOTS De Gea and I didn't notice any difference between his normal.

[Gray Fox]

I've used a fair few goalkeepers this year. The only difference maker seems to be the height. You might also see the higher rated ones pull out a worldie once every few games, but that's about it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

94 Nainggolan though :drool:

I've also tried the 98 Hazard and I'm not sure why but I'm just not feeling him.

He's good but nowhere near as good as his stats suggest he should be.

[Danny]

I can't be arsed to change the picture, but Renato Sanches should be the standard gold card, not the OTW.

I bought that banking on him winning a futties. Hoping for some decent profit.


IF Leighton Baines and an IF version of Marcos Alonso are really the only decent options at left back (without murdering chemistry) it seems.

How does Birthday Cole shape up? Paired with Rooney and Smalling in your second team. Or does that ruin Mkhitaryan's chem?

[Yevrah]

It'll fuck Mickey's chemistry, but having used Cole before the bigger problem for me is that I'm just not a fan of him.

[Danny]

I havent used him but I saw him as one of the higher level English/Prem players. Shame.

[Gray Fox]

Messed about squad building. Here's a couple I've knocked up.

Team 1:

https://i.gyazo.com/9644bc3b965e659918ec22db2c78ffd9.png

Team 2:

https://i.gyazo.com/c49c9a59a2390d9e3260fbceccd5f2fd.png

Team 3:

https://i.gyazo.com/32c51d17c591d14ed6f033c70c23ffbc.jpg


I'd change all of them in game, most likely to a 4-1-2-1-2, but there's a few options there. Not sure which I like most.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That last one interests the hell out of me, although I'd be looking at reversing it so I could have SBC Lahm and SIF Alonso.

[Gray Fox]

It's like a megamix of players I want to try. Though no matter how I try it always comes out very attacking. The only part I'm not liking the look of is Boateng. I've never gotten on with him, but see no way around having him there.

[Yevrah]

Mahow, while you're here. TOTS Lewa? Your thoughts?

EDIT: And yeah, team 3 would be the one I'd go with too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

My favourite striker, he's perfect for my style.

Only player (94 onwards) that I can maintain a close to 1 gpg average.

[Gray Fox]

I've nearly built all of team 3 now. Only the left side of defence to go. The problem I'm having is that I don't tend to get on with Boateng and I've similar concerns about Plattenhart. Now I could flip the whole thing on it's side and put the Bundesliga lot on the right. However Boateng needs a German full back there. The only option now in the Bunsesliga is the Lahm SBC at right back. The problem with this is I can't afford him and Boateng together. I could muddle through with a cheap option or even the TOTS Lahm, until I get more coin, or take the SBC on and play with a stand in at CB, then sub on my TOTS Marquinhos.

[Yevrah]

Despite whacking him on for the lowest BIN twice, 90 Son didn't sell so I've decided to keep him and have a third side. This will be just Premier League players, which will come in handy for offline Division 1 and it means I still get to use Son and Kane together and these bad boys who've been at the club for ages are now back in a squad.

IF Firmino
Kouyate (I'd love it if he got a Futtie win, albeit I'd lose his record with me)
Barkley
Rashford

All that means that I'm left with 520k ish of coins, some shit in the club that I really can't be arsed to sort through and possibly only three players left to hunt down for for FIFA17 - TOTS Lewandowski, SIF Marcos Alonso and IF Baines.

After that I could sell TOTS Kante (replacing him with a cheaper version to free up some coins), but I'm not sure what I'd do with them bar a crack at SBC Lampard or Gerrard, both of whom will probably be ruined by horrible pace and/or stamina.

[Gray Fox]

I've done Lahm. About 145k in total. You just have to be patient with TOTS cards. Though buy up in advance because everyone will want Gerrard/Lampard. There's no supply of TOTS cards either.

I now have this:

https://i.gyazo.com/1224d9e9339dd277a520992d5e483427.jpg

Not quite enough for Boateng. It'll go to 4-1-2-1-2 in game with Eriksen the CAM and Forsberg a CM. Good thing about this formation is that I can swap out the middle CM and Striker without penalty to anyone else. For example I could put in Lacazette and Tolisso and it'd work perfectly. It just needs the CM and ST to have a perfect link.

[Gray Fox]

Took the above into the WL. It's good to see nothings changed there. Started 12-1 and was enjoying it. Then came the flick of the switch and all of a sudden I'm struggling in games. 12-1 to 18-9.

Still it gave me a good representation of the players. Lahm is bloody good. Keita is also a joy. It does go downhill after that. Werner is decent, but feels slightly iffy on the ball and in no way feels 98 pace. Stindl is also good but you can't quite get away with using him as a CDM like I tried. He'd be a good CM. As for Forsberg I just didn't get on with him. Couldn't quite put my finger on that one.

Now I lost a few games thanks to having to play Tah, but also because Werner missed a few 1v1s. With further investigation it may be down to his card having 54 composure. For example Kane who I used last week has 83. Lewandowski has 87, Aguero 90 etc. This may explain why I find those kind of players bury anything while cheaper ones are hit and miss.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Funny that, I felt Stindl was a perfect CDM.

I do feel that Forsberg can get lost though.

[Gray Fox]

In moving the show on. The next player I'd like to try is TOTS Thauvin. He'd allow me to get Lacazette back in the team and some version of Tolisso. The only player to suffer chem wise then would be Keita.

[Yevrah]

I briefly had TOTS Stindl and he didn't play anywhere near as well as his stats suggest he should.

I'm shit, so I didn't let that cloud my judgement of Team 3, but it doesn't come as a surprise that Fox has struggled with him.

[Gray Fox]

Every time I go to list Werner someone lists him ever-so-slightly cheaper only minutes after. He's proving hard to shift.

I can use my SBC Lacazette and bring in Thauvin with maybe MOTM Tolisso.

The other option is similar. TOTS Mbappe and TOTS Bakayoko. This does leave me in need at RW, as I'd be just short of Bernardo Silva.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

TOTS Thauvin is immense.

[Gray Fox]

Just nabbed one for 247k. Not sure if to use him as CAM or my left striker. He could do both pretty amazingly well.

[Gray Fox]

I thought I'd mention too, the DKT now has various rewards. Last week gave you 1 FUT Birthday player(I got Agbonlahor), this week is any TOTGS/TOTKS player, I think next week is any scream player.


EDIT: Done the run on my first go. The team played absolutely lovely. Tolisso felt a tad clunky but was great. Thauvin belted a 35 yarder with his first touches at the club, with his wrong foot too.

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Sniper%20Wolf%20TP4/video/34152074

One thing I noted, I stuck with the 4-3-3(3) until the final and won 6-0, 4-3, 7-0 and 2-0. You'll probably notice what I did in that, there's no goals conceded in 3 of those games. I seemed to be able to defend easier, but I think it's more that my possession count went up. I was near on 60% in the 3 games before the final. Funnily enough in the final I had only 45% and that was the one I switched back to 4-1-2-1-2.

[Gray Fox]

I've used Thauvin in the 4 DKT games and a run through D6. He has 17 goals in 11 games. He reminds me a lot of Griezmann. His left foot just finds the net, whereas his right is more of a lottery. Also Keita with 21 goals in 33 games from midfield is properly good for me. To put that into perspective, my TOTS Herrera has 20 goals in 162 games.

The team is almost perfect. I'd love to try out an updraded Lacazette and I could use a left back upgrade(FUTTIES Shaw please).

[Danny]

85 Sane.Christ.

[Gray Fox]

Universally unpopular winner too. People now complaining this is going to be a full pink premier league XI with maybe Renato Sanches.

Left Backs next.

887372956866813952

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Shaw will piss it.

[Yevrah]

There's a cracking post on the Fifa forums about how stale and samey the game is, which personally I blame on the move by EA to get a pro hierarchy in the game.

Everyone's using the same players, no one uses bronzes etc. And why would they when the whole thing is geared towards results and the small pool of pro players are dictating everything.

It's a bit like going down the local snooker club and the only opponent you can play is Mark Selby. An experience for a while, but not something you'd want to do week in week out.

[Gray Fox]

The problem they've had, I touched on at the back end of last year, is all of their own making. They've removed the "play for fun" part of the game.

If you look now you only have game modes that give rewards, dependant on how well you perform. That or seasons. But the rewards are so bad for seasons that people just use it to gear up for the FUT Champions mode. And in that mode, even in draft, it's all "play to win." It has brought the worst out of the community this year, with glitches, exploits and dirty tactics coming left right and centre.

But if you're saying if you don't pick up wins, your time is essentially worthless, of course people will. They have done 1 thing for people this season based on time played and that's it. It was 1 free pack.

I'm okay because I put enough time in and am competent enough to hold my own against most players. But imagine if you werent good enough to get into the weekend league on this version. Your money making is limited to what you can trade.

They created a game wherein the only mode that mattered was FUT Champs. Wins in that were worth their weight in gold through the middle of the games life. I remember what it was like in November. You could park the bus for 90 minutes without penalty and could cherry pick your opponents based on their name or founded date.

Hopefully it's improved on next year, but seasons needs a big revamp.

[Yevrah]

Brought Sane in and he's pretty good.

Also bought four TOTS players earlier and Ashley Cole. The former to go for Lampard or Gerrard and the latter to link with either. If EA fuck with the requirements of the previous end of an era SBC's for this one I shan't be pleased.

All that means TOTS Leandowski is out of the window, but given I already have his SBC, I can live with that.

Need to do one of the new Futties tonight as I'd like Luke Shaw and won't be back on for a couple of days.

[Gray Fox]

I'm doing Rose. Shaw will win anyway and Rose is the highest rated card, so he'll make the requirements a tad easier to hit. One of the youtubers did a strawpoll of the 3 cards and Shaw had over 60% of the vote so it isn't even close.

[Gray Fox]

Looks like EA have listened. The last chance SBCs offering loan players have been upgraded to permanent cards.

Todays releases offer FUTMAS Modric and Moussa Dembele, the marquee transfers, an SBC offering 1 FUT birthday card and finally POTM Hazard. There's also a loan of version of each player to try before you buy.

I like this, however Hazard looks to come in at around 165k. That's a little too pricey for my liking. That Dembele is quite tempting as a more defensive option, however that would mean taking out TOTS Eriksen.

[Dan]

Hazard & Zlatan are about 150k each, apparently. Modric around 105k too.

Kinda wish I had a bit more money kicking around now :D

EDIT: Hazard & Modric have already gone up by 20-50k in cost. I'm clearing out some of my consumables to see where it leaves me. Might do a few upgrades as well or something, just to try to get some more gold players since the silver & bronze players are basically worthless now.

[Gray Fox]

I would've loved Hazard back when he first came out. Now though I just can't drop Son for him. Especially not for that price.

They're all disappointingly pricey to be fair.

[Danny]

Błaszczykowski :moop:

[Dan]

I got Sirigu :( Not bad considering what it costs to get it though, I suppose.

Managed to get about 40k from selling off some of my consumables, and I have a fuckload left that I can continue to sell through, so I could well drag myself back up to around 400k if I carry on listing them up.

Also getting slightly tempted to move on from the Bundesliga side & try out one of the other big leagues or a hybrid of some sort. Could probably get just over 1m coins if I sold most of my special cards, although it would kinda make the Lahm SBC a waste of money unless I used him & my untradeable TOTS Hummels in whatever hybrid I created.

[Gray Fox]

I got Sirigu :( Not bad considering what it costs to get it though, I suppose.

Managed to get about 40k from selling off some of my consumables, and I have a fuckload left that I can continue to sell through, so I could well drag myself back up to around 400k if I carry on listing them up.

Also getting slightly tempted to move on from the Bundesliga side & try out one of the other big leagues or a hybrid of some sort. Could probably get just over 1m coins if I sold most of my special cards, although it would kinda make the Lahm SBC a waste of money unless I used him & my untradeable TOTS Hummels in whatever hybrid I created.

Lahm to Hummels is a perfect link. You can have 2 dead links going off them and still be on full chem. So it shouldn't be too hard to get them in a squad. And it should be done because Lahm is the best RB on the game for me. Get both to link into Stindl at CM and you'll be grand.

I've been thinking of trading down TOTS Eriksen to some version of Dele Alli. Both are great but trading one out for the other would allow me to upgrade from 87 SBC Lacazette to 90 Lacazette. He basically has +5 on evey stat and is pretty damn good already.

[Yevrah]

Got Ashley Cole from the birthday SBC. I'd already bought him in preparation for slotting Gerrard or Lampard into the side so that's 40k of coins back right there.

[Gray Fox]

The internet has got it into its head that it will be Gerrard and Lampard tonight, so expect some annoyance if it isn't. I've kept the birthday Agbonlahor and the TOTT player I won(84 Schmiechel) just in case they are requirements, as well as all my weekend league gold cards. I'm going to find it very hard to refuse Gerrard if he is any kind of affordable. Even playing him on reduced chemistry. I imagine him and Lampard will be the same rating to stop that debate rearing up. I'd expect them to be rated 95 like Lahm. Low to mid 80's in pace for Gerrard and high 70's for Lampard.

We will be getting most likely an 84 rated Shaw tonight. Maybe 86 pace and 83/84 defending and physical most likely, but Shaw is decieving. His base card shows 82 pace, but his sprint speed is actually 86. To be fair all he really needs is a stamina upgrade.

Beyond that we'll see the new nominees. They should finish off the defence with the RB slot, but they pulled RW out last time out so who knows.

[Gray Fox]

Well hello...

888443489427398656

Also Shaw won. Go figure.

[John]

Lol at 98 passing for Gerrard. We must be about twenty years ahead of the curve on recognising that Gerrard's long balls were actually terrible nine times out of ten, so he'll probably have 99 long passing there too.

There was a version of UT a couple of years ago in which Charlie Adam had a better on card passing stat than Xavi. This is that laughable.

[Yevrah]

Any idea on their stat breakdowns yet?

Birthday Cole didn't sell, which is possibly good depending on what level/cost of birthday card I need, but I could probably pick them both up.

[Gray Fox]

Lampard:

https://i.gyazo.com/ce542800b3d045380e23eb3813ec1eb6.png


Gerrard:

https://i.gyazo.com/d09e1ee73e4c960c9229c277b6a0a72f.png

[Yevrah]

Ok, so Lampard has 72 stamina and both have shit agility and balance.

Gerrard the only viable one.

[John]

Ok, so Lampard has 72 stamina and both have shit agility and balance.

Gerrard the only viable one.

Are agility and balance really that important for a central midfielder, particularly one with bonkers strength? TOTS N'Zonzi has under fifty for both and he's great.

[Gray Fox]

I saw a guy use Gerrard just now. He took 2 shots from about 35 yards out. Both almost took the net off on the way in.

Gerrard looks very good, for 70 minutes of the game at least.

[Yevrah]

Yeah, probably not so much which is why I'd say Gerrard's viable.

[Yevrah]

I saw a guy use Gerrard just now. He took 2 shots from about 35 yards out. Both almost took the net off on the way in.

Gerrard looks very good, for 70 minutes of the game at least.

83 stamina should be ok, no?

[John]

I've swapped in TOTS Ferreira Carrasco for SIF Neymar and he's basically unstoppable. Just wriggles through every challenge to the point where after ten games the only way anyone has stopped him has been by giving a free kick or penalty away. He literally hasn't been dispossessed once. 99 in all of agility, ball control, and dribbling. :drool: