McDonald's should be allowed to sponsor youth tournaments?

[Angelsaint]

The thought makes me puke but incredibly or not some here thinks that it is OK.
This is for me the same as allowing kids to play with guns.
Just to end " how the fuck can you sleep at night? ".

[Angelsaint]

BTW how you get a poll in this?

[Spammer]

How would you police that kind of thing?

If they want to get sponsorship and Maccy D's is paying good money, I don't see why they'd get all principled about it. Money talks. It's not a great situation but who's going to step in and change it?

[Angelsaint]

Exactly the same way alcohol and tobacco companies are not allowed.

[Bernanke]

A cheeseburger is not the same as a bottle of vodka or a pack of cigarettes. The latter have age restrictions on them for a reason.

This would then apply to every maker of candy, ice cream, sodas as well then?

[Spammer]

Exactly. Where would it end?

[Angelsaint]

A cheeseburger is not the same as a bottle of vodka or a pack of cigarettes. The latter have age restrictions on them for a reason.

This would then apply to every maker of candy, ice cream, sodas as well then?

McDonald's should have age restrictions.

Answering your question, yes.

[Spammer]

What about foods whereby the health benefits/risks are ambiguous?

[Jimmy Floyd]

I don't personally see the problem. Using that kind of logic you'd only have UNICEF and the Tony Blair Foundation as potential sponsors. If they want to make up in some way for the horrors of the McFlurry by ploughing money into youth football then so be it.

[Mazuuurk]

If McDonalds should have age restrictions, so should basically ANY establishment that sells food do. They aren't really much worse than anyone else, specially not these days when they actually try to provide more healthy stuff (which is a little retarded, granted, but whatever).

And by "youth tournament", what do you mean exactly? If it's U18 or so, you're still talking about people who are, at least legally, adults and allowed to vote and drink and drive.


And besides - you can also view it this way: if McDonalds and Coca-Cola doesn't sponsor these things... who would? And isn't it better that any money comes into sports, rather than none? I mean if people are going to eat McDonalds a lot, which they are going to anyway, they may as well associate it with doing sports, right?

[Angelsaint]

What about foods whereby the health benefits/risks are ambiguous?

I see where you are going and I will bite.

If it is proven as bad as those we talk, yes.

[Mazuuurk]

It's not as bad as cigarettes. Fatty and sweet foods can be addictive, yes. But Bic Macs aren't exactly like fags, they don't have nicotine in them.

[Angelsaint]

Just to resume this thread. McDonald's should be forbidden / taxed by the authorities. Who should support youth tournaments? Not anyone selling food hazards.

[Mazuuurk]

Never thought you for a treehugging philanthropist, Saint. Watched too many Jamie Oliver shows, have you?

[Angelsaint]

It's not as bad as cigarettes. Fatty and sweet foods can be addictive, yes. But Bic Macs aren't exactly like fags, they don't have nicotine in them.

Actually they are as dangerous. Super size me for reference.

[Lewis]

Short of peddling outright frauds, everyone should be allowed to advertise however, whenever, and wherever they want.

[phonics]

I believe it was Sao Paolo who did the opposite and completely banned advertising. Local economy went up 5% or something.

[Angelsaint]

Never thought you for a treehugging philanthropist, Saint. Watched too many Jamie Oliver shows, have you?

From everyone in this forum I actually thought I would get some support from you.
You know very well as me that McDonald's us not allowed in any youth tournament in Sweden / Norway / any country where the government has people with more then 2 brain cells and empathy.

[Angelsaint]

Short of peddling outright frauds, everyone should be allowed to advertise however, whenever, and wherever they want.

" This is the real coke,not the fake to drink "

" join isis we promise a blowing career "

" smoke with me, we are cool"

Can't wait for liberalization!

[Lewis]

Me neither. Freedom at last.

[Kikó]

I think McDonalds shouldn't be sponsoring them but it's up to the FA to have the stones to say no. There shouldn't be anything banning them.

[bruhnaldo]

It's more important to fund children's dreams whilst simultaneously parenting them and teaching them good habits than to take a fake moral stand.

[bruhnaldo]

McDonald's should have age restrictions.

Imagine waking up and coming to a forum with 20 active users and trolling in this lamebrain, little effort fashion.

[Mazuuurk]

Actually they are as dangerous. Super size me for reference.

Well, no. Kids have pretty decent metabolism and if they also do sports, they will very likely be much better off by eating McDonalds 1 per day rather than having 1 packet of cigarettes a day. No, neither is probably very hard to prove in a study, since nobody would actually do that to kids, unless maybe you're Mengele.

That said, McDonalds clearly isn't the healthiest of foods. But - what food that you buy out is? Short of going to a hipstery Raw Food bar, which admittedly 8-year-olds are known to just love, there really aren't many options that are good. You go eat in a restaurant, it'll be the same amount of fat and calories most likely. Indian? Yep. Kebab? Yep. Pizza? Yep. Steak with chips? Yep. Any meal you ever get in a pub? Yep.

In fact, most families with kids probably don't eat much healthier than McDonalds at home. Your average spag-bol is probably about as nutritious as a Happy Meal.

McDonals isn't quite as bad in general as you think. In Sweden, for instance, a few years ago did this huge sweep where they checked the sanitary levels of 270 or some such restaurants, where only 10ish passed, 7-8 out of which were McDonalds'. Now that doesn't speak for the nutritional values of the food, which, again, aren't great - but at the same time meals in Sweden aren't all that bad.

In the US, they have a much worse mentality about eating a lot. Like they have huge super-size menus (thats, by the way, half the point of Super-size me) that they actively try to get people to order because quantity is a very important factor in American food, it seems.


From everyone in this forum I actually thought I would get some support from you.
You know very well as me that McDonald's us not allowed in any youth tournament in Sweden / Norway / any country where the government has people with more then 2 brain cells and empathy.

Now, I do appreciate this sudden philantropy, don't get me wrong, but it's a bit like people who care about the extinction of a distinct insect when there's world hunger to solve, or something. It's also a bit strange saying that No tournament is better than Any tournament sponsored by McDonalds - because that's what it is (because only companies who have a self-interest in sponsoring sports will in fact sponsor sports.

Hell, you could say Addidas probably have child labour going on somewhere and shouldn't be sponsoring anything either. Etc, etc.

[GS]

Short of peddling outright frauds, everyone should be allowed to advertise however, whenever, and wherever they want.

Indeed.

Although I'm not going to get particularly worked up if there are restrictions during children's cartoons or similar.

[phonics]

Indeed.

Although I'm not going to get particularly worked up if there are restrictions during children's cartoons or similar.

Why wouldn't you, might I ask?

[GS]

Why would you get particularly worked up about it?

[Angelsaint]

Well, no. Kids have pretty decent metabolism and if they also do sports, they will very likely be much better off by eating McDonalds 1 per day rather than having 1 packet of cigarettes a day. No, neither is probably very hard to prove in a study, since nobody would actually do that to kids, unless maybe you're Mengele.
Kids that eat regularly McDonald's don't do sports. They don't have the energy.

[Kikó]

I used to eat kebabs and McDonald's when I was a kid and ran loads.

[Angelsaint]

I used to eat kebabs and McDonald's when I was a kid and ran loads.
Well... We have to take your word as gospel.

[Boydy]

I hardly ever had McDonald's as a kid and I'm a fat bastard.

[Angelsaint]

I hardly ever had McDonald's as a kid and I'm a fat bastard.
Whale is vegetarian and weights 8 tons.

Your point is...

[Boydy]

Whale is vegetarian and weights 8 tons.

Your point is...

Whales are meant to be that size though.

And whales also aren't vegetarians ('herbivores' in the word you're looking for).

[Kikó]

Well... We have to take your word as gospel.

Because I have a reason to lie.

If I carried on, I wouldn't be playing football in my twenties mind.

[Yevrah]

McDonalds should be allowed to sponsor what they like, but that doesn't mean all potential recipients of that sponsorship cash should just bend over and take it.

[phonics]

Whales are meant to be that size though.

And whales also aren't vegetarians ('herbivores' in the word you're looking for).

Aren't Krill a form of fish?

[niko_cee]

Yeah (well, animals), whales are mass murderers.

Mac Ds is fine. It's the fizzy drinks that are the worst bit and it's not like they are particularly responsible for those.

[Spoonsky]

Me neither. Freedom at last.

Vermont banned highway billboards because they were ugly.

Vermont. :cool:

[Boydy]

Aren't Krill a form of fish?

What?

[GS]

Vermont banned highway billboards because they were ugly.

Vermont. :cool:

There was some municipal authority who used roadside billboards with half-naked women, the idea being that all the blokes would slow down to ogle them and thus increase safety.

I can't remember where it was, mind you. It was probably the French.

[bruhnaldo]

There was some municipal authority who used roadside billboards with half-naked women, the idea being that all the blokes would slow down to ogle them and thus increase safety.

I can't remember where it was, mind you. It was probably the French.

Not saying you're wrong but taking your eyes off the road to ogle women seems kind've opposite of safe.

[GS]

Not saying you're wrong but taking your eyes off the road to ogle women seems kind've opposite of safe.

I presume they thought this would be fine if they were doing about 10mph.

It was (to the best of my recollection) a municipal authority. These are the type of decision-making bodies who only collect the bins once a fortnight, so expecting them to think things through is asking far too much.

[phonics]

What?

Ya know, what Whales eat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krill

[randomlegend]

What?

The fings what whales eat (krill) = fish ergo whales =/= vegetariums.

[niko_cee]

Reading it back, I think he was just clarifying how you would classify a non-meat-eating animal, rather than saying whales in fact fall into that category.

Krill are crustaceans.

[John]

Forget McDonald's, I've just walked past a billboard advertising 'Ultimate Cheeseburger' Doritos with Olympic branding all over it.

[Boydy]

Reading it back, I think he was just clarifying how you would classify a non-meat-eating animal, rather than saying whales in fact fall into that category.

Krill are crustaceans.

Yeah I was. I thought that was obvious.

[phonics]

Alright, Trump. Chill out.

[Boydy]

You're the one that can't read.

[phonics]

It's my liberal bias showing.

[Chrissy]

Exactly the same way alcohol and tobacco companies are not allowed.

I fairness, obesity will kill more than fags and booze.

[Shindig]

I think fast food gets a pass on the whole fact we need food to avoid dying.

[Mazuuurk]

Kids that eat regularly McDonald's don't do sports. They don't have the energy.

I loved McDonalds as a kid, we used to go quite often (maybe every two weeks?). I did loads of sports and was always quite skinny.

Then I grew up and stopped liking McDonalds, but I'm much fatter now than I was as a kid and a teenager, so you know with that logic eating McDonalds probably actually makes you skinny, now that I think about it.

[randomlegend]

If someone can come up with a thread topic which would get Saint and Mert into an argument they'd outright win the board.

The rest of us could just ignore the thread and they'd argue forever more and we'd never see them again.

[Shindig]

The sad thing is they'd get on too well.