View Full Version : Alcohol is bad for you
-james-
22-07-2016, 07:45 PM
Reports a new study (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/22/alcohol-direct-cause-seven-forms-of-cancer-study).
I've been aware for some time now that I drink too much. It's not mega levels or anything but enough for me to notice the negative effects. It's a bit shit but I lack the motivation to make any real changes.
Do you drink too much?
People who have cut down, how?
Giggles
22-07-2016, 07:48 PM
Didn't we know alcohol was bad for us in the 1980's? Maybe even 70's?
Was there anyone left under the impression it wasn't bad for you?
Anyway, I drink very seldom these days but when I do I make sure it's a lot. Wasn't a conscious effort but life always makes these things cut back as you get old. Some people probably say it's binge drinking, but I think a glass and a half of beer in one sitting counts as binge these days, so I won't worry.
Next week: Smoking may shorten your lifespan.
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I used to drink way too much, 3-4 times a week I'd be steaming. These days it's usually 2-3 casual sessions and a heavier session on a Friday or Saturday.
I'm not really sure what motivated me to cut it down, was probably when I moved in with my missus and your lifestyle changes. If I was single again now I'd probably slip back into my old ways quite easily.
Lewis
22-07-2016, 07:53 PM
Didn't we know alcohol was bad for us in the 1980's? Maybe even 70's?
Was there anyone left under the impression it wasn't bad for you?
Next week: Smoking may shorten your lifespan.
The quite excellent Christopher Snowden lolled (http://health.spectator.co.uk/study-proves-alcohol-causes-cancer-the-problem-there-wasnt-a-study/) at this earlier. In short, it's not a new study.
-james-
22-07-2016, 08:02 PM
It was mostly an excuse for the thread. Can generally tell from how I feel the night after poisoning myself that it probably isn't doing me much good.
Living with my girlfriend is probably half the issue. Too easy to just have a few every night.
Giggles
22-07-2016, 08:07 PM
It was mostly an excuse for the thread. Can generally tell from how I feel the night after poisoning myself that it probably isn't doing me much good.
Living with my girlfriend is probably half the issue. Too easy to just have a few every night.
I had took an awful notion for drinking a lot at home under the guise of trying loads of stouts, but once I tried them all I just left it at only drinking when I'm out, which is a rare occurence these days. Even if we go up the road for food, the portions are too big to even think about boozing. I took an awful pile of it in France during the Euros but those types of occasions are few and far between too.
Definitely the worst habit I ever got into again was drinking at home watching TV and I'm glad I knocked it on the head.
niko_cee
22-07-2016, 08:08 PM
I drink most days, although rarely excessively (ie to the point of stupor). It's probably (obviously) too much but my medical advice tells me the damage to various organs is offset by the benefit to the heart.
Shindig
22-07-2016, 08:11 PM
Its a weekend treat and nowt else for me. I've never dealt with hangovers well so I tend to tread lightly.
-james-
22-07-2016, 08:13 PM
I find drinking on my own to be shit. Should just sack off humanity.
Just realised that's been written whilst enjoying a nice Slovak lager with my dinner.
I usually only drink at Christmas and even that's only sparkly wine.
Just don't really get the fuss to be honest. Doesn't taste that good and makes you feel like shit.
Boydy
22-07-2016, 08:15 PM
I usually only drink at Christmas and even that's only sparkly wine.
Just don't really get the fuss to be honest. Doesn't taste that good and makes you feel like shit.
It makes you feel GREAT before it makes you feel shit though. That's the fuss.
Taking this as a win for the church.
Lewis
22-07-2016, 08:22 PM
When I tried getting drunk a couple of months ago my head just got a bit warm. What happens if you keep going?
Giggles
22-07-2016, 08:22 PM
When I tried getting drunk a couple of months ago my head just got a bit warm. What happens if you keep going?
Your shoes do.
Meh it's all bad for you. Few beers, pills and a line off a hookers arse is real living gents. The morning after, not so much.
Literally I drink most weekends but I wouldn't say to excess. In Czech Republic it's cheaper for a can of beer than it is for a bottle of water so I've had a skinful each day recently with the nice weather.
Magic
22-07-2016, 09:00 PM
I hardly ever drink.
niko_cee
22-07-2016, 09:00 PM
Maybe you should.
It makes you feel GREAT before it makes you feel shit though. That's the fuss.
Oh it's great when you're 20 and out on the pull WITH THE LADS but sitting at home downing cans sounds depressing.
Magic
22-07-2016, 09:09 PM
Maybe you should.
Inhibition is saving my family, mate.
Oh it's great when you're 20 and out on the pull WITH THE LADS but sitting at home downing cans sounds depressing.
Depends what your doing. If going on a gaming session and the missus ain't around then I get a few cans in.
Drinking during a 'gaming session' sounds even more depressing than drinking alone in the dark.
Bartholomert
22-07-2016, 09:19 PM
I used to drink 5-6 nights a week in college. In hindsight I was a full blown alcoholic.
Then I graduated, realized I was obese, hated myself, started dieting and I think I've had 3 occasions where I've drank in the last 5 weeks. Also law school is impossible when you are always hung over because you have to crank out 6-8 hours of productivity every day.
I am way better at life now. I've also lost almost 40 pounds, probably about 2-3 month away from a posting a shirtless picture that will inspire vague jealousy in the weightlifting thread.
niko_cee
22-07-2016, 09:21 PM
I've never really understood the massive stigma of drinking alone, unless drinking and getting battered are synonymous.
Is it drinking alone if you are with other people who aren't partaking themselves?
Boydy
22-07-2016, 09:21 PM
Oh it's great when you're 20 and out on the pull WITH THE LADS but sitting at home downing cans sounds depressing.
Yeah, I don't see the point of it sitting at home alone. You don't have to be 20 and out on the pull WITH THE LADS to enjoy a few drinks out with friends though.
Bartholomert
22-07-2016, 09:22 PM
I used to get wasted playing FIFA Ultimate Team probably 2-3 times a week last year. In my defense the night usually started with me starting to drink and then hook up with a Tinder girl, would then send her home afterwards, and then play FIFA till i blacked out. Those nights where I would order like $40 of food and then drunkenly devour while watching Netflix post FIFA session :drool:
It was awesome.
Boydy
22-07-2016, 09:24 PM
Speaking of things that are bad for you, I bought an ecig recently as although I don't smoke that much these days (except when drinking), I thought it'd be best to try and stop completely.
Got an eliquid with far too much nicotine in it at first. Then I got a different one with less in it but it seemed to give me the shits. Fuck's sake.
Magic
22-07-2016, 09:26 PM
:D
Buying an e-cig even though you don't smoke. You're almost Mahow.
Boydy
22-07-2016, 09:28 PM
I do smoke. :cab:
Magic
22-07-2016, 09:29 PM
Having one or two whilst drinking isn't smoking.
I've never really understood the massive stigma of drinking alone, unless drinking and getting battered are synonymous.
Is it drinking alone if you are with other people who aren't partaking themselves?
I wouldn't count, say, having a glass of wine with dinner as 'drinking.'
Boydy
22-07-2016, 09:31 PM
I don't smoke that much except when drinking when I smoke loads.
Magic
22-07-2016, 09:33 PM
How many do you smoke a day?
Boydy
22-07-2016, 09:41 PM
Anywhere between 5 - 10.
Not sure what you're getting at though. I'm not trying to portray myself as some hardened 40 a day Toms Waits soundalike. I enjoy it and I enjoy the routine of going out for a cig (especially at work to get away from fucking boring conversations) but I know it's not good for me so I was trying to make a healthier change with an ecig.
Maybe if you could just read in the first place, you'd not be trying to cover up your own embarrassment.
Adamski
22-07-2016, 09:41 PM
:D
Magic
22-07-2016, 09:41 PM
Fag.
Giggles
22-07-2016, 09:56 PM
Speaking of things that are bad for you, I bought an ecig recently as although I don't smoke that much these days (except when drinking), I thought it'd be best to try and stop completely.
Got an eliquid with far too much nicotine in it at first. Then I got a different one with less in it but it seemed to give me the shits. Fuck's sake.
What did you get? I couldn't get used to them until I got onto a decent tank that didn't leak but it's a great job now. If the liquid isn't agreeing with you then try 100% VG, I found that much more agreeable (or try 100% PG if it doesn't, everyone is different). I'm down to a 0mg nicotine now, though I still smoke like a train if I do go out as I feel like a dick whipping the robot cock out in the smoking area.
Bartholomert
22-07-2016, 09:59 PM
As a periodically heavier smoker (during exam week) E-Cigs fukin blow, it's not even close to being the same.
Boydy
22-07-2016, 10:00 PM
Robot cock. :D
I got an Innokin T18. I read a load of reviews and they were supposed to be a decent starter kit. I think I read something about it not being able to handle 100% VG as it'd fuck the coil though. I've ordered some new ones including one which is 80% VG so maybe they'll be better.
Giggles
22-07-2016, 10:06 PM
Robot cock. :D
I got an Innokin T18. I read a load of reviews and they were supposed to be a decent starter kit. I think I read something about it not being able to handle 100% VG as it'd fuck the coil though. I've ordered some new ones including one which is 80% VG so maybe they'll be better.
Robbed that one from a David O'Doherty show a few weeks ago.
Those T18's are gone very popular. I was very close to getting one myself only for the VG thing, but they're nice and discreet compared to the Nautilus that I do have. I drive so much and in the car is my one real crutch when it comes to smoking, so it's great for that. Only for it I'd be on 30 a day going up and down the country.
Lewis
22-07-2016, 10:17 PM
Yeah, anyway. T18. These vaping shops are popping up all over the place.
Bartholomert
22-07-2016, 10:29 PM
Also, regular milk thistle + fish oil consumption does a lot to reduce hangovers. I can confirm.
Giggles
22-07-2016, 10:33 PM
Yeah, anyway. T18. These vaping shops are popping up all over the place.
Usually run by the dodgiest fuckers going.
mugbull
22-07-2016, 10:53 PM
What's a "heavy session" of drinking for everyone? How many standard drinks? I would say 8+ but despite living in a frat house for 2 years I still have like no tolerance
Dark Soldier
22-07-2016, 11:22 PM
Like a pikey, a two litre Strongbow straight out the bottle (hour and a bit in the freezer to get it just right, I'm not a savage) three nights a week does me grand.
Giggles
23-07-2016, 07:17 AM
What's a "heavy session" of drinking for everyone? How many standard drinks? I would say 8+ but despite living in a frat house for 2 years I still have like no tolerance
Around 8-10 pints, and a few vodkas once I can't drink any more pints.
Byron
23-07-2016, 09:08 AM
I'll have a couple of lunches a week with some people I used to work with and that'll involve a couple of pints and then there'll be 2-3 big sessions a month that involve about 5-6 (any more and I start to feel sick so I tend to move to water at that point)
Not as bad as I used to be, during university about 3-4 sessions a week, until I was throwing up was the norm and nothing you turns into a lard arse quicker than boozy sessions and a McDonald's breakfast the next day.
-james-
28-02-2025, 11:10 AM
Had my last drink in August and not sure I see myself going back. Never being hungover and every poo being solid is really the only way to live.
Lofty
28-02-2025, 11:17 AM
Weird takes on drinking alone in this time capsule, not averse to a pint on my own in the pub or cracking a cold one and sitting in my garden in the summer.
Yevrah
28-02-2025, 11:19 AM
I've basically now reached the point with alcohol where I don't bother with it at all, probably 13 days out of 14 and on one of those days have a proper lunchtime onwards blow out. Works for me I think and according to some medical I did recently my liver function is fine.
Hangovers, the older you get are just utterly rubbish things to experience.
Magic
28-02-2025, 11:19 AM
Fuck 3 years from divorce me. Fuck him to hell.
Lofty
28-02-2025, 11:22 AM
I don't drink that often now, maybe once a week. I am going to Benidorm for Cheltenham week though so definitely going to feel a shell by the end of that.
Jimmy Floyd
28-02-2025, 11:49 AM
Are you going to tell me that going somewhere other than Cheltenham, for 'Cheltenham week', is a thing?
I drank last night properly and the sleep is just a nightmare. 4 hours sleep and 3 separate pisses. What's the point.
Waffdon
28-02-2025, 11:51 AM
Are you going to tell me that going somewhere other than Cheltenham, for 'Cheltenham week', is a thing?
Seems to be for the past few years. Apparently much cheaper than going to the festival itself
Crucially, no horses in Benidorm. Just donkeys.
Giggles
28-02-2025, 12:31 PM
When I'm drinking I like to do it from about 5pm to 7pm. Not even a sign of a hangover then.
Yevrah
28-02-2025, 01:19 PM
When I'm drinking I like to do it from about 5pm to 7pm. Not even a sign of a hangover then.
Yeah, it's the same benefit with lunchtime starts. Although I still get some hangover as I am now of the age where I don't even think John Virgo would be describing me as a young man.
Boydy
28-02-2025, 01:20 PM
Yeah, it's the same benefit with lunchtime starts. Although I still get some hangover as I am now of the age where I don't even think John Virgo would be describing me as a young man.
A two hour window sounds a bit different to a lunchtime onwards blowout.
niko_cee
28-02-2025, 01:31 PM
I drank last night properly and the sleep is just a nightmare. 4 hours sleep and 3 separate pisses. What's the point.
What are you, 70?
Now I live as, essentially, a hermit I rarely get battered which is definitely a life improvement in terms of no days after. Still solid on the home consumption though.
Waffdon
28-02-2025, 01:39 PM
A two hour window sounds a bit different to a lunchtime onwards blowout.
:lol:
Getting guttered 2 times a month also doesn’t sound much like not bothering with alcohol either
Is 1:45pm too early to crack one open on a Friday? I've got a fridge full of beer staring at me.
Jimmy Floyd
28-02-2025, 03:05 PM
You own the company don't you? Why are you asking us?
Giggles
28-02-2025, 03:35 PM
1:45 on a Friday sounds pretty optimal to me.
I'm going for a few competition beers this evening to see if they make the grade as soon as I land in the door and get my drinking shorts on, RIP.
Magic
28-02-2025, 03:42 PM
You own the company don't you? Why are you asking us?
Because he's a tool and also a loser.
What are you, 70?
Now I live as, essentially, a hermit I rarely get battered which is definitely a life improvement in terms of no days after. Still solid on the home consumption though.
Basically. Anytime I have pints, I'm destined to piss multiple times in the night.
I think the social aspect is still probably a good enough reason to have a few beers even if the next day is a write off.
Giggles
28-02-2025, 07:30 PM
Even though it's handy drink at home, I do like to get out the odd evening for a yarn and to hear a few lies at the bar. Every 5 to 6 weeks she'll drop me down, which is plenty.
Lofty
28-02-2025, 07:50 PM
Seems to be for the past few years. Apparently much cheaper than going to the festival itself
£280 for return flights, airport lounge, private transfers and 4 nights in a hotel, €1 a pint. Looking at £100 just for a ticket to the race meeting and being scalped every step of the way.
Waffdon
28-02-2025, 09:01 PM
Are you staying in a brothel?
phonics
28-02-2025, 09:47 PM
Working at a pub that’s nearby to Cheltenham during that week was awful. Made my coke addiction look calm. Never tipped either.
Lofty
28-02-2025, 10:48 PM
Are you staying in a brothel?
It's next to the Red Lion, I've stayed there before. It's not The Ritz and it gets lively in that area at night but when you've caned it all day you aren't going to be hearing any of that come bedtime.
phonics
28-02-2025, 10:59 PM
It's next to the Red Lion, I've stayed there before. It's not The Ritz and it gets lively in that area at night but when you've caned it all day you aren't going to be hearing any of that come bedtime.
Which one?
randomlegend
28-02-2025, 11:22 PM
Only time I drink is if we do a wine flight at a wanky restaurant, meaning I have zero tolerance and always get quite drunk.
Lofty
28-02-2025, 11:42 PM
Which one?
https://www.loveholidays.com/holidays/spain/costa-blanca/benidorm/el-trebol.html
Last time I went I stayed there for 7 euros a night :drool:
phonics
28-02-2025, 11:54 PM
I’m fucking thick and thought you were talking about Cheltenham so imagine my surprise when the page is in Spanish. I know trains are expensive these days but…
Lunchtime drinking at a bar is definitely the best for me nowadays as I grow older and more grumpy.
People are typically not bladdered or spitting in your face whilst talking. Nobody too aggressive, a calm and jovial atmosphere with mainly pensioners watching horse racing.
4 or 5 pints, a little pub meal, and then home by around 6pm before the lunatics start to arrive or before there's a chance of getting attacked on the way home.
If it's after 6pm, I'll probably be drinking at home with either a bit of tv or some tunes.
A big change since before lockdown, where I was out on average 3 times a week on a work-night, sometimes having a lock in at the local. Walking home at 3am with about 4-5 hours sleep for work is mad in your late 30s.
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