[Football] Does Moyes have what it takes to save Sunderland from relegation?

[Reg]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/21/david-moyes-sam-allardyce-sunderland

What do you think? Good appointment?

[SincereTheRebel]

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[Lewis]

It's a good appointment if they give him TIME, because Sunderland ought to be better than fighting relegation every year.

[Pepe]

He'll be back in United before January.

[Shindig]

It might work if he signs Fellaini.

[Andy]

Great appointment for them. Will take them to the next level.

[Kikó]

What's the next level?

He might do OK but since Everton he's done nothing to suggest he can actually make a team better.

[niko_cee]

Getting them to where Everton were would be decent enough (very good actually).

[elth]

Mid table with the occasional flirtation in Europe would be a good spot for Sunderland.

[Kikó]

I think he's passed it. Peeked at united. Will be at Preston in four years. Then eventually managing Scotland.

[Andy]

What's the next level?

He might do OK but since Everton he's done nothing to suggest he can actually make a team better.

Mid table boring-ness. Similar level to Stoke, Swansea etc.

[Yevrah]

Course he does, it's a good appointment.

[Giggles]

Bitter much? :D


“We are absolutely delighted to welcome David Moyes to Sunderland, who was by far and away our first choice.

“He is a man whose football pedigree speaks for itself and is someone I have long admired. I have spoken with him on many occasions and I have always been hugely impressed.

"He was my number one managerial target for the last five appointments, but his desire to honour existing contracts meant we were not able to bring him to Sunderland previously.

"To be able to finally welcome him as our manager is fantastic news for the club.

“The fact that David has committed to a four-year deal is a clear demonstration of his belief in what he can achieve here. It is our aim to become a better, stronger and more stable football club and with a manager of David’s calibre and experience at the helm, we have a fantastic opportunity to begin looking upwards, rather than downwards every season."

[ScousePig]

We've (surprisingly) handled this whole thing superbly. Expressed our displeasure at the timing and the way the FA have gone about appointing Allardyce, dug our heels in to get the most out of them compensation wise, had Moyes lined up ready and (presumably) been in a fair bit of contact to Allardyce prior to their moves, and then announced him at the earliest opportunity.

I would have liked to have seen us thank Sam and wish him all the best, but the lack of anything on that front suggests something untoward may have happened during the process, which may come to light soon.

Two very good appointments, here's hoping.

[ScousePig]

Btw, anything better than scraping survival will be progress.

[Reg]

It must be weird as a fan to see your club manager leave for the national team which you support.

I reckon Moyes will do well, the first season will probably be tough as the squad needs a clear-out.

[Max Power]

Who's gonna be the man to take over from Moyes half way through and keep them up? Dyche is my shout.

[Giggles]

Who's gonna be the man to take over from Moyes half way through and keep them up? Dyche is my shout.

Keane :harold:

[Shindig]

This only works if you say, regardless of league position, you keep Moyes on for 3 of those 4 years. Sunderland's been under construction for almost a decade now. Much like the succession of wank that's resulted in our relegations.

[ScousePig]

It must be weird as a fan to see your club manager leave for the national team which you support.

I reckon Moyes will do well, the first season will probably be tough as the squad needs a clear-out.

We're so used to our managers leaving when we're in dire straits, so it's all a bit surreal.

I can't remember the last time our manager left to go on to better things.

[ScousePig]

This only works if you say, regardless of league position, you keep Moyes on for 3 of those 4 years. Sunderland's been under construction for almost a decade now. Much like the succession of wank that's resulted in our relegations.

You've got the usual people saying give him 3/4 years regardless, to allow for the stability we're craving. Which is fine, but they were saying the same about MON, who had us spiraling to the championship and playing the worst football imaginable in the process.

[Shindig]

If he makes a real pigs ear of it he'll probably wind up Strachan's successor, then. :D

[ScousePig]

Good God he's dreadful.

Dour, negative and has us hurtling to the Championship at a rate of knots. I was optimistic when he came in but it's difficult to point out anything he's done well.

[Magic]

Dat win ratio doe.

[Shindig]

I still hold out that the board haven't really given him much encouragement. Scrambling to get those freebies just to make the numbers up and then a quiet January. On top of that, the guys already there can only take so many relegation dogfights.

[Kikó]

I think he will try and make it difficult for the others.

[ScousePig]

I still hold out that the board haven't really given him much encouragement. Scrambling to get those freebies just to make the numbers up and then a quiet January. On top of that, the guys already there can only take so many relegation dogfights.

Our board are shit, but we all know that. He's just done nothing of note to suggest we might even have a glimmer of a chance.

[Shindig]

There's very few that could've had an impact. Arguably just one and he had his head turned by the FA.

[Lewis]

His first couple of years at Everton were up and down, so they should take their long over-due relegation and let him try to create something a bit more sustainable.

[Reg]

His first couple of years at Everton were up and down, so they should take their long over-due relegation and let him try to create something a bit more sustainable.
I reckon you'd have ripped other managers to shreds if they'd done as he did at United and Sociedad.

[Lewis]

I have no idea what he was even doing in Spain, since those sort of clubs exist to be fourteenth whilst chewing through managers every nine months, but Sunderland are a top-to-bottom disgrace that should have been relegated about five years ago, so I like to think I would cut most people some slack there. Besides, ten billion quid later, doesn't his United spell look slightly less shit?

[Max Power]

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/410048812980256770

[Lewis]

Exactly. It's still true.

[Max Power]

Not blaming the fixture list at least. You have to respect that.

[Lewis]

I think that was literally the first thing he did when he got the job (but only because he thought he had to).