Barcelona - van crash

[Raoul Duke]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...na-las-ramblas

A van has crashed into a crowd of people in central Barcelona, police have said.

Several people were injured in a “massive crash”, the Spanish police said on Twitter. A photograph shown by public broadcaster RTVE showed three people lying on the ground in the street.

Metro stations close to site of the crash in the Las Ramblas area were closed.

The Spanish newspaper El Pais, citing police sources, said the driver of the vehicle fled on foot.

Catalan emergency services said people should stay away from the area around Plaça de Catalunya, which is popular with tourists.

The circumstances of the crash are not known.

That last line is pretty

[Pepe]

I thought this was going to be about 'Barca, mate.'

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm going to Spain (driving round) on Tuesday with Barca earmarked.

RIP me?

[Lewis]

Hull has some of those concrete anti-Islam barriers now, as if we're a top target.

[John]

Unless you somehow time travel and wind up there this afternoon I wouldn't worry.

This sort of thing can seriously get to fuck. Guns and bombs are bad enough, but I don't need to be confronting mortality every time an approaching engine is revving a bit higher than normal.

[bruhnaldo]

AP
BREAKING: Spain's El Pais newspaper, citing police sources, says perpetrators of van incident in Barcelona holed up in a bar.

[Pepe]

Yet another reason for bicycle friendly infrastructure.

[SincereTheRebel]

I'm going to Spain (driving round) on Tuesday with Barca earmarked.

RIP me?

Hopefully.

Just send me the £20 or fifa coins before the freedom fighters in spain put you in the deep six

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hopefully.

Just send me the £20 or fifa coins before the freedom fighters in spain put you in the deep six

Would some Polish moonshine work?

[Lewis]

Moroccan immigrant. At least he wasn't grooming anybody.

[Adramelch]

Presumably 3 gunmen on the loose, but 1 seems to have been caught.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

10 posts in two and a half hours.

A terrorist attack was usually the catalyst for a frenzy.

[John Arne]

Gary Speed is dead.

[John Arne]

That'll get things going.

[Shindig]

10 posts in two and a half hours.

A terrorist attack was usually the catalyst for a frenzy.

Not when we've had eight in a year.

[GS]

Can we confirm what point we're at in the standard line of response to this?

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Still waiting on the lad getting his piano out, that'll be tomorrow I suppose.

[Spikey M]

Can we confirm what point we're at in the standard line of response to this?

Islamist(s) kills people > nothing to do with Islam > Pop concert

Sorted.

[Shindig]

Islam needs a proper counter-culture.

[Giggles]

Yet another reason for bicycle friendly infrastructure.

Better to get mown down.

[Yevrah]

Another step closer to a pretty horrible future.

[John]

There's some fairly intense footage of the aftermath of this shot by some fairly intense arseholes just wandering around videoing people weeping and dying rather than doing anything to help.

One of the seemingly dead looks tiny, probably no older than twelve or thirteen.

[Yevrah]

Any linkage?

[Magic]

Fuck sake mate is going there tomorrow already buried two mates don't need a third ffs.

[GS]

If this one is from Morocco, there was mobile phone footage of a boatload of migrants (from Morocco, presumably) landing on a beach in southern Spain and legging it in-land.

[John]

Any linkage?

Nope. Got one through a Whatsapp group and the others have all just been popping up and being taken down on Facebook.

[Yevrah]

Probably for the best, don't really want to watch it.

[GS]

How crushingly myopic do you need to be to record that sort of thing? One assumes the only conceivable explanation is that they reckon it'll go viral.

[Yevrah]

Why are the media still referring to them as "so called Islamic State"?

What the fuck is the point?

[niko_cee]

Aye, they're probably up to the artist formerly known and so-called Islamic State by now, seeing as they don't actually have much, if any, of a state left.

[John]

Thirteen confirmed dead so far. I'd fancy that to go up by a couple overnight.

[GS]

Inevitably, all of the newspaper have gone big on it on the front pages thus affording the act (and the killer, their motivation etc.) even more coverage liable to elicit copycat attacks.

[Shindig]

How crushingly myopic do you need to be to record that sort of thing? One assumes the only conceivable explanation is that they reckon it'll go viral.

"I'm at an event, guys!" although it does provide something for the police to study.

[John]

Inevitably, all of the newspaper have gone big on it on the front pages thus affording the act (and the killer, their motivation etc.) even more coverage liable to elicit copycat attacks.

It's a massive event so they're obviously going to cover it, but when everyone who knows what they're talking about is telling them they need to rethink the way they cover it or risk encouraging copycats, at a certain point they're just being irresponsible by continuing to go with the same old approach.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Anyone else noticing much more apathy on social media now? I've not seen a single mention from any Facebook friends about this, people are becoming sanitised to it.

[Yevrah]

We've basically reached the stage where this is part of our way of life in Western Europe now.

[GS]

It's almost as if there might be a reason why it's become more prevalent.

[Giggles]

You do nothing to stop something happening and it'll soon become the norm.

[Lewis]

Well, the increase in Islamophobia after Brexit/Donald Trump was always going to provoke a backlash.

[Shindig]

You do nothing to stop something happening and it'll soon become the norm.

The French do, to their credit.

[GS]

That's working well, isn't it.

[Dquincy]

Fuck sake mate is going there tomorrow already buried two mates don't need a third ffs.

For fucks sake, don't be that guy.

[John]

Another whopper has blown himself up in Barcelona while trying to build a bomb.

[Offshore Toon]

Islam needs a proper counter-culture.

Check out Taqwacore (and the book The Taqwacores that started it all).

[Adramelch]

Police also killed 3 people (and injured a 4th) in Tarragona, all of them apparently wearing explosives.

[Spikey M]

Why are the media still referring to them as "so called Islamic State"?

What the fuck is the point?

It's fucking irritating, Isn't it? Everything is 'so called', but you don't have a so called biscuit with your so called tea in so called Great Britain.

[McAvennie]

Inevitably, all of the newspaper have gone big on it on the front pages thus affording the act (and the killer, their motivation etc.) even more coverage liable to elicit copycat attacks.

Doesn't make sense to me that these guys see a headline and think "that's a cracking idea, let's try that!"

Makes more sense that they are already radicalised, and know that they can hire a truck much more easily than they can build a bomb.

Maybe if the newspapers didn't report any news no bad stuff would happen anywhere?

[Mazuuurk]

It's fucking irritating, Isn't it? Everything is 'so called', but you don't have a so called biscuit with your so called tea in so called Great Britain.

Isnt that because they dont want to 'aknowledge'' them as a state? I know a lot of politicians just call them Daesh because apparently they dont like that (IS that is).

[Lofty]

Anyone else noticing much more apathy on social media now? I've not seen a single mention from any Facebook friends about this, people are becoming sanitised to it.

Both sides could argue victory really, terrorists that they've made it a regular part of life, or us that could argue that everyone will just risk it for a biscuit while the drone strikes roll on unabated.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Isnt that because they dont want to 'aknowledge'' them as a state? I know a lot of politicians just call them Daesh because apparently they dont like that (IS that is).

It's because they don't want to be seen as suggesting that that state represents Islam.