Well ~100% are fucking mongs so...
Well ~100% are fucking mongs so...
God is, apparently, a massive cunt.
Good job this wasn't "a guns situation".
Doens't even sound like it was a GUN FREE ZONE.
What about what does kill us?At 01:30, Chris Speer was still sitting on his porch, sucking his cigarette in the dark. Fourteen hours earlier he was in the same place, with his 11-month-old son, when he heard "close to 30 shots".
"Your first instinct, you're out in the country, you think someone is shooting, practising," he says. "But it was too close. I knew something wasn't right."
He took his son inside. "If I could have got my gun, I would have," he says. "But when you've got a kid in your hands, I'm not risking it. He wouldn't let go."
Mr Speer didn't know the attacker but he knew "a lot" of the victims. "We're a small community. We band together. But what doesn't kill us makes us stronger."
Trumps response:
“This is a mental health problem at the highest level.”
You're telling me mate.
Yeah, I thought the "what doesn't kill us makes us stronger" response was an odd one to 26 people having just been killed.Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Needs moar lobotomy.
That is creepy, sounds more like a lock the doors and execution style rather than auto spray.
"This isn't a guns situation" declares Trump, who then proceeds to diagnose mental illness based on no evidence.
Well I think the murder of 26 people is a substantial amount of evidence, to be fair.
It's not an either or situation. If you're about to shoot a load of strangers in a public place for the heck of it, you are not of sound mind. First time in a while a member of the public has shot back. That's the angle for gun control. An armed populous that won't act is a useless resource.
It could have been 326 unless those two other guys hadn't stood for the anthem.
Mental Health can’t not be a factor when you have someone carrying out a terrorist attack. That said, the law only cares about if you knew it was wrong or not. In other words, was he NUTS or nuts.
Nope. That's a cop-out. Sane people do dreadful things too.
I'm a twit
Do they though? ‘Normal’ people do not very nice things, sure. Affairs, assault, perhaps even murder in extreme circumstances. But I don’t see how anyone gets to the stage where they are planning and executing (pun partially intended) the murder of as many people as possible without being off their rocker.
They may know it’s wrong, They may have full control of their faculties, but you don’t get to that point if your screws are sufficiently tightened.
It doesn't tie in with his agenda, so there's little point in arguing.
I once bought the Daily Mail on purpose. #HistorysGreatestMonster
I just don’t see how anyone could think the Columbine killers, Sandy Hook killer or any Serial Killer the 70’s offered up we’re sane. I’m sure they are all ‘sane’ insofar as knowing what they were doing, but they were still quite clearly mentally unhinged.
What "agenda" is that?
The attempt to blame mass shootings on mental illness is just another attempt by people to label things that they'd rather not deal with as The Other. It's similar to attributing stuff to "evil", in that it provides comfort that they are incapable of it themselves. Precisely the wrong attitude.
Not to mention that if we start declaring that swathes of people are insane based on such actions without adhering to any actual psychological definition, the term loses all meaning.
All I can read in to this is that Henners is constantly fighting the urge to kill, which is not too surprising.
Great. Now I can't help but assume he killed his girlfriend.
Don't murder 26 people = not insane
Murder 26 people = insane
More like angry, a bit of a div, and armed with an assault rifle.
I think for this one, mental health might be an open and shut case tbh.
The gunman who opened fire on worshippers at a church service on Sunday escaped from a mental health facility five years ago after being caught sneaking weapons on to a military base and planning to carry out death threats made to his commanding officers.
Devin Kelley was stationed at Holloman air force base in New Mexico, where he worked in logistics and faced a court-martial in 2012 after repeated assaults on his then wife and young stepson.
Officers were advised that Kelley “was a danger to himself and others as he had already been caught sneaking firearms” on to the base, the report states, adding that he “was attempting to carry out death threats made on his military chain of command” and was also facing charges related to the assaults. He had been reported missing late one evening in June 2012. Police suspected he was planning to take a bus.
Months after the attempted escape, late in 2012, he was sentenced to a year in a military prison. After a bad conduct discharge in 2014, Kelley moved to Colorado, where he was cited on an animal cruelty charge for allegedly beating a dog.
And he could still buy assault weaponry legally from a shop. Even if it is a mental health issue, it's still a gun issue.
The glee with which gun advocates are touting their 'good guy with a gun' theory is a bit unsettling.
Also fairly pointless seeing as the good guy with the gun couldn't prevent 26 people being killed and the shooter ended up doing himself in anyway.
I know it's conceptually abstract, but I'd take my chances with an assault weapon free country rather than having a good guy with a gun.
It does somewhat undermine their whole position that the best case scenario seems to be twenty six people being killed.
As I understand it, in this specific case, the Air Force did not report his behavior through to the correct channels. If they had of done, then the place where he bought the gun would have refused it. Whether they actually would have... who knows.
The problem with this of course, is that he could easily just go to one of those gun shows, or a private seller, and buy a weapon with no background check.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/w...T.nav=top-news
inb4 fake newsBut there is one quirk that consistently puzzles America’s fans and critics alike. Why, they ask, does it experience so many mass shootings?
Perhaps, some speculate, it is because American society is unusually violent. Or its racial divisions have frayed the bonds of society. Or its citizens lack proper mental care under a health care system that draws frequent derision abroad.
These explanations share one thing in common: Though seemingly sensible, all have been debunked by research on shootings elsewhere in the world. Instead, an ever-growing body of research consistently reaches the same conclusion.
The only variable that can explain the high rate of mass shootings in America is its astronomical number of guns.
I prefer its larger cousin, 'good guy with a nuke.'
Schools in Florida have started selling bulletproof panels for children to put into their backpacks.
How much are the armour piercing bullets in Walmart?
Selling them? Classy.
They probably act like the ‘blackbox’ First time drivers can have fitted to reduce the cost of their insurance.
Pathetic logic. Real mass murdering child killers always aim for the head.
I had a satchel until I was 12, I'd have been butchered.
Fucking should have been for that.
It had my initials on it too.
Boot bag or queer.
I used to get called a nerd for wearing my backpack - my 'parachute' - with both straps. lol enjoy your back pain one-strap faggots.
Spazpack.
The wankiest ones where those with a single strap that buckled across the chest.
Or the record bag, nothing but a stealth satchel.
One of the lads at school had a giant tennis bag. It was bigger than him. People who trip over it and there was one fight he got into where he swung it like a hammer.
It was you, wasn't it.
Slazenger lol. Certain things there was something inherently wrong with, even if they were decent gear.
Heavens, no. I was a backpack lad with a single strap. This lad's been in Doha for a billion years teaching kids something. And fencing. 'cos he's that kind of ponce.
Dylan Roof has been given the death penalty by the federal government. He may also get another from the state government. Which really sucks for him.
It's barely newsworthy anymore.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-deaths-school
California shooting: four dead as at least one child wounded at school, police say
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