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Thread: The ULTRAMEGA Summer 2017 Transfers and Rumours Thread [featuring THE MIGHTY BLADES]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    On balance I'd rather have Lukaku than Morata (being a Chelsea fan), but that's mainly because a big physical striker suits THE SYSTEM better than sexy Alvaro and his dreamboat eyes.

    If we change THE SYSTEM and have some more bursting presence from midfield, as we will have to do in order to avoid finishing 13th, then you never know.
    Morata is a big, physical striker. At a guess I'd say he's probably bigger than Diego Costa. What you'll be missing out on is pure nastiness but Lukaku wouldn't be bringing that anyway.

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    I must have watched him a good 10-15 times and I've never noticed his physicality or height featuring. Could be my fish tank talking though.

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    United should really have brought Javier Hernandez back for the sake of it.

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    Barcelona have bid £72m for Coutinho. I look forward to us firmly holding out for a week or so before caving in and selling for £75m.

    I also look forward for the coming challenge to reach 6th place.

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    Does that mean this mad Neymar deal is on then?

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    It points to that. I don't think Barca have £72m available to spend now without selling, after buying Semedo and Deulofeu for about £35m.

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    They can surely afford whatever transfer fees they want, but they apparently struggle with their wage bill (or are at least paranoid about it, since it nearly ruined them fifteen years ago), so Neymar going would help them there more than the actual fee would.

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    That sort of fee does suggest they've got something coming in, but they could be doing with central midfielders too, so it's possible they just plan to play him there. They have a shitload of them already but half of them are rubbish.

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    Coutinho is probably the ideal replacement for Iniesta. I hope he stays put though.

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    It's not the first time I've heard of Coutinho potentially replacing Iniesta.

    I'm already anticipating he'll leave. If Neymar does go then I imagine it'll become more of a formality. Who we panic buy should provide much entertainment to the rest of the league.

    It gives the ownership a chance to prove themselves. Then can go with the hardline stance RB Leipzig are showing us now and say we have no desire to make money and would rather keep the player. The problem they have though is that the fanbase are already wary of them. They've been trying to prove themselves to be not about making a profit for years and under Klopp this hasn't gone away. Should Coutinho leave and the money not be reinvested in a quality player we may well see the protests back again.

    Our only saving grace might be that he's openly critisized Madrid and Barcelona lately, saying he'd rather play somewhere and be loved than go to one of them and be another of their many bought and sold.

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    I don't mean to sound unpleasant, but you don't half talk some shit at times.

    When's the Keita done deal getting wrapped up again?

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    The lulz if Coutinho leaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I don't mean to sound unpleasant, but you don't half talk some shit at times.

    When's the Keita done deal getting wrapped up again?
    There's a 3rd bid of £71m coming if that makes you feel any better?

    The indication was that the previous bid was supposed to have been enough to get the deal over the line. Hence the surprise when it was turned down.

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    I love this stuff. "There's a 3rd bid of £71m coming".

    Nice of Liverpool to let the papers know.

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    Aye. Not quite my point, but nice to know. Exciting times.

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    At what point is Naby Keita not worth the money?

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    What is a Naby Keita?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    At what point is Naby Keita not worth the money?
    I think that point has been and gone.

    Although, I suppose, in the alternative, if he really is the macdaddy "TOP TIER" uberplayer the price tag suggests, a club like Liverpool have to overpay now when they have an amount of leverage (Champions League football) as that could quite likely not be on offer next summer, when he''ll go for whatever it is his release clause is. €50,000,001.

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    If he'll improve them then he's worth whatever.

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    No player that comes off of one decent season in Bundesliga is worth 70 Million, even at todays crazy valuations. Specially not when they come from one of these random "success-story teams" who upset the league and played brilliant football for a whole season somehow (see: Leicester).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    No player that comes off of one decent season in Bundesliga is worth 70 Million, even at todays crazy valuations. Specially not when they come from one of these random "success-story teams" who upset the league and played brilliant football for a whole season somehow (see: Leicester).
    tbf, Keita is Leipzig's Kante, who has been a huge success at Chelsea.

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    That's impossible to know - And I wouldn't say it's the same. Kante was more or less the life and breath of that whole Leicester team, whereas the Leipzig team has had a plethora of players perform quite well, haven't they? Like Forsberg and Werner.

    And Kante went for, what, 32 Million, right? Which is a reasonable - even bargain - price for someone who has proven himself in the same league already (albeit for only one season). 30 million is the new "let's take a punt, what's the worst that can happen" - price these days.

    But for 70 million, you'd expect someone who has proven a bit more than that. I mean, Lukaku was 75 - and he has proven himself in the same league for several years now.


    Of course it may end up being worth it in hindsight, if he turns out to be as instrumental as say Suarez was, but then you're back to it's still a bit of a gamble to get a player like that, and at that point 70 Million seems completely off.

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    The price is high because Leipzig are backed by sugary drinks and don't need to sell. If it was Mainz he'd already be in Liverpool and claiming he saw the Beatles at the Cavern Club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    No player that comes off of one decent season in Bundesliga is worth 70 Million, even at todays crazy valuations. Specially not when they come from one of these random "success-story teams" who upset the league and played brilliant football for a whole season somehow (see: Leicester).
    They're more a Man City than a Leicester. In fact, aren't they basically thought of as the most evil organisation since the SS?

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    I for one think that Man Utd players are rubbish, whilst Liverpool players are THE BEST.

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    Lol at football. £72m on Coutinho to spend it on someone with a decent season behind him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    Lol at football. £72m on Coutinho to spend it on someone who has never been on terrestrial telly
    Fixed that for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by dino View Post
    Fixed that for you
    I hadn't heard of him before the summer, so yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    They're more a Man City than a Leicester. In fact, aren't they basically thought of as the most evil organisation since the SS?
    Really? Didn't know. Thought they largely had the same team in the second division as what they did so well with in Bundesliga the year after or whatever.

    Not having to sell for being rich makes sense, but I guess I didn't realize someone like Red Bull would be so happy to shell out money on something like that (as an Oligark or Sheikh might for their own amusement more or less). Red Bull has always just sort of sponsored extreme sports and Salzburg - which is a bit of a nobody team really, which is why it would seem weird that they'd be happy to just fork out cash all of a sudden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    That's impossible to know - And I wouldn't say it's the same. Kante was more or less the life and breath of that whole Leicester team, whereas the Leipzig team has had a plethora of players perform quite well, haven't they? Like Forsberg and Werner.
    How on earth is it impossible to know? He's not the same type of player as Kante, much more of an all action box to box type, but he was every bit as much the engine of the team as Kante was for Leicester. A playmaking winger and a rapid striker also performed well, you say? That sounds familiar.

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    I meant it's impossible to know that Keita would be a success at Liverpool just because Kante was a success at Chelsea.

    But, I do seem to have misunderstood what type of player he was - so fair enough. I thought he was a Winger, for some reason.
    Probably because he's African and Liverpool want to buy him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    I for one think that Man Utd players are rubbish, whilst Liverpool players are THE BEST.
    That's the Liverpool spirit we all know and love. Straighten the tinfoil hat, they're all against you.

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    Robertson has been announced.

    Stewart also confirmed as having gone the other way. The fees almost cancel each other out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    That's the Liverpool spirit we all know and love. Straighten the tinfoil hat, they're all against you.
    I was being sincere. Bloody love Lazar Markovic.

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    Andy Robertson

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    That Stewart fee really is mental. He's barely even a reserve, and it's not like he's that young. Is that the price of base competence these days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    Andy Robertson
    Doesn't that transfer save Dundee united due to the sell on clause?

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    They get £600,000 apparently, although Hull's renegade owner probably won't pay.

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    Stewart played 18 mins of Premier League football last season, according to Whoscored.

    We've done well out of this one.

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    Can we expect a £79m bid for Keita tomorrow?

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    I think the more pressing concern over the weekend will be this:

    http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...wants-to-leave

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    The daft cunt has five years left on his contract, and [at least] two until he could try to buy himself out of it. If he insists on striking the other clubs, as a long-term measure, should all help Southampton pay his wages and let him miss two years.

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    How would you lot deal with van Dijk in this situation, out of interest?

    Making him train on his own is fair enough if Pellegrino wants to punish him before selling him on, but I reckon Southampton want him in their first XI when the season kicks off and beyond.

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    Ideally, you make him train with youngsters, then come the season - you pick him - if he refuses to play, I believe that there is a rule that the PFA agreed to - where the club don't have to pay him (I may have mis-remembered this, cos I can't find a link online).

    The big problem, of course, is that Southampton have presumably a few clubs waving £50m quid at them, for a player acting a cunt.

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    They have to sell really. West Brom learnt that the hard way with Berahino.

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    Yeah, and then when time goes on, you realise the player has no consistency and turns out shit. They lose all their value then.

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    Poor little lambs, having to sell a permanently injured player for a grossly over-inflated fee.

    They'll probably hold out until as close to the deadline as possible. Sometimes changes of heart occur. Didn't Liverpool have a similar thing with Suarez or did he end up going that summer [Bodgers sent him to train with the youth team] anyway? Did that even happen?

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    Gerrard changed his mind once too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Doesn't that transfer save Dundee united due to the sell on clause?
    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    They get £600,000 apparently, although Hull's renegade owner probably won't pay.
    We'll get an okay sum. Pisses up the wall though.

    He was playing for an amateur team four years ago. Fkn hell.

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