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    What reputation do people start with for Jman in this version? Sunday league was rather obvious but then coupled with the tracksuit thingy it gets complicated.

    First day on my new job, game crashes.

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    So just a super quick update:

    I started my Journeyman game with a host of European leagues loaded, with my manager being an ex Sunday League footballer with no coaching training whatsoever. I got some offers from teams that a) I thought were too high (League 2 teams etc) and b) were just starting the season and I wanted to join a team mid-season so I declined them. Finally the mighty Knattspyrnufélag Akureyrar from the Icelandic First division (2nd tier) decided to approach me after their previous manager had managed to gather 8 points from 12 games and the club found themselves in a relegation spot, despite being expected to finish 3rd.

    The players in the squad was ok and there were no glaring gaps. Since we were fighting to avoid relegation I decided to set-up a straightforward counter-attacking 4-4-2, trying to play to the strengths of the squad. My first game was a disappointing 3-0 defeat to a mid-table team, but from there on things picked up and we easily managed to avoid relegation:



    We got 17 points from my 10 games in charge and it should have been 19 and 7th place instead of 9th but we decided to miss every single chance in our last game against already relegated Fjarðabyggð at home.

    I'm thinking of staying with KA for another season and see if we can maybe fight for promotion, but failing that I want to stabilize their position in that division at the very least, staying away from a relegation battle this time around.

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    Just had three of my fullbacks score in one game, getting 4 between them.

    That's got to be some sort of record.

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    FM17 is £11 on Steam right now. Bargain if you've not bought for a few versions and are tempted.

    After seeing this I've loaded up my old FM16 save and as I'm near the end of a season I'm going to play on a little. No idea if I'll get back into the save but here's a little backstory:

    I'm on the home stretch in season 6(2020/21) as Southampton manager. In the league I've finished 9th, 10th, 1st, 1st, 1st. The first 2 years spend building the club up and then it all clicked in the 3rd season. The 3 league winning years saw us take the title by 1 goal, 15 points and 3 points respectively. Unfortunately this hasn't translated into other competitions. We haven't lifted any other trophy. Only once reaching a final, which was the Champions League. We ended up losing that 2-1 to Man City. The Community Shield has been won 3 times but I don't really count that.

    We've achieved the above whilst following the Southampton model of rinsing the elite clubs of their cash and re-investing in youth. However what seems to have gone in is I've had a wedge burning a hole in my pocket and I've bought every regen I like the look of. Therefore I've now a very promising, young squad, but far too many of them for them all to develop.

    This season, I'm 29 games in, however well off the pace at the top. I'm still in the Champions League QF stage and the Semi-final of the FA cup, but face Madrid and Chelsea, so I'm not counting those chickens.



    That's how the table looks. Big suprise package Bournemouth are looking on for the top 4, however they face a tough run in. As for us, it's been a disappointing season by the looks of it. Made worse by telling the board we'd win the league. Though hopefully we can push on into 2nd an appease them.
    The ground is now a 54,000 seater and there's still 200m in the coffers, despite a £40m transfer still due to arrive. I basically have all of that to spend too. Time for me to crack on and see how I go.

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    A week after resuming, Bayern have sacked Pep, following 3 years without a league title. I applied but didn't get it. From there we played Madrid, losing 3-1 away. We were repeatedly caught on the counter by Dybala and in truth it could have been more.

    Still that gave Madrid the decision. Come and sit back or come and attack. They tried to sit back:



    They got peppered from start to finish. We've drawn Monaco in the Semi with the other side being Bayern v Galatasaray. Now on fire we faced Chelsea in the FA Cup. 2-2 at FT I brought on a few subs and they took over. Running out 4-2 winners. We play Ipswich or Man Utd in the final.

    I remember why I like this game

    EDIT:

    Bayern in the final. United in the FA cup first. I'll take one of two. Losing both would be harsh.

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    The agony and the ecstacy.







    Came up just short in the league and in Europe. Still I've £300m in the bank and most of that to spend. I need centre back improvements.

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    Has anybody managed in the MLS before? I'm playing a game with Minnesota and the one major issue (apart from the ridiculous contracts/player status) is the fact that all the players coming through the Superdraft are fucking awful, every year. I have the NASL and USL loaded - but I don't think this is affecting it.
    Be interested to hear from others.

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    First season with Norwich. Infuriating really in the end, as I should have at least walked the play offs. It took me a third of the season to find the right tactics, and then we drew 7 in a row before going on a great run and looking like we could pinch second. Then we only managed to win 1 of our last 8 games, and fell out of the play-offs on the last day. This season we really need to be looking at promotion.

    This is our transfer activity from last season and this summer:




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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    Has anybody managed in the MLS before? I'm playing a game with Minnesota and the one major issue (apart from the ridiculous contracts/player status) is the fact that all the players coming through the Superdraft are fucking awful, every year. I have the NASL and USL loaded - but I don't think this is affecting it.
    Be interested to hear from others.
    The draft is the reason I've never done MLS. I've no idea how the draft works for that and obviously change scares me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    The draft is the reason I've never done MLS. I've no idea how the draft works for that and obviously change scares me.
    The actual draft system is relatively straightforward - though the non-stop trading (and offers) for Draft picks is annoying;

    Quote Originally Posted by Inbox
    Club X have offered you $80k in General Allocation Funds plus Club Y's 4th pick (2nd round) of the 2018 Superdraft in exchange for player Z
    I mean - the fuck. My main issue is just that every draft player is crap - it makes the whole draft things pretty pointless.

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    What's happened to my images?

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    I've powered through quite a few seasons in my Jman save so here's a rather lengthy update:

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    Few things I've noticed so far. I see the trend where the defender makes a hasty clearance but it happens to fall on the feet of the striker 70 yards away who then goes to score is still here, as it was in the last version I played (FM14 I believe). Also I noticed that early goals are a big theme, no? Feels like every other game I have has an early goal (like before 10 mins or so). It's a bit strange.

    EDIT: And I've just been offered the Huddersfield job (at the Championship, expected to finish just outside the playoffs). Not sure what to do. Their stature is bigger than Ruzom, but if I stay that's a shot at another title (2 if you include the cup) and I get to finish the CL groups as well (4 losses out of 4 so far as expected). Will be my last season in Slovakia either way, the question is do I leave now or at the end of the season. Decisions need to be made.

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    What a game that was. Going to the Euros!

    Edit: It was Asoros first goal in the national team. Hero.

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    This seems to be a new Brexit outcome...


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    I mean, they were the better team on the day no doubt. But losing 0-3 to wondergoals and whatnot while hitting the woodwork 3 times is so annoying.

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    After pulling up short in both Europe and the league last year. I decided it was change time. I'm only bringing in players that will improve the first team, not just the squad.

    The pre-arranged deal I spoke of before sees Arthur Seguin bought for an initial £25m. However there's a fair amount of add ons which, if he stays for a couple of seasons will see that up to £40m.

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    Next comes what I've done since picking the game up. We were looking a little toothless at the front and back. Plenty of potential without a massive amount of current ability. To that end I sought out a centre back. To be fair there weren't a great deal available that would have improved the team. Eventually we found Luka Corcic. I have him working on that aerial ability. If I can get that jumping into the teens he'll be a very good defender. £44m.

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    Lastly the one I'm excited for. I wanted a star. The type everyone wants on their shirt. Introducing Philipp Zetterer. By far and away the best forward I found. Originally from Bayern, he went out on loan to Ingolstadt in the 2nd tier scoring 25 in 34. Then on to Betis and scored 21 in 38 games as an 18 year old in La Liga. This prompted RB Leipzig to buy him for £15m. Annoyingly I found him just after he had moved. Fast forward another year he netted 24 in 31 and was 2nd top scorer in the league. The only problem was RBL were sticking to his minimum fee release clause of £65m. In the end I paid it. He then scored 1 minute into the Community shield to properly announce himself.

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    I've moved on some failed prosepects and fringe players now and brought £95m back in to balance that £130m spend. Though in honesty I've still about £160m to spend.

    Squad now looks like so:



    Now the annoyance is Bayern have just rocked up wanting Hugo, who according to that is my best player. I have no real need to sell, however he's the type to kick up a fuss, so I'm not sure if to sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    After pulling up short in both Europe and the league last year. I decided it was change time. I'm only bringing in players that will improve the first team, not just the squad.
    Probably a good policy if you haven't moved forward the previous season.

    Also, your regens don't look like deranged Martians, have you got a facepack for them?

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    Zetterer looks class. I'd be doing whatever I could to boost his acceleration, but then that's one of the main things I look for in a striker.

    How much room to grow do your coaches give him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    Probably a good policy if you haven't moved forward the previous season.

    Also, your regens don't look like deranged Martians, have you got a facepack for them?
    Yeah there's one on FMScout, its much better although a lot of moustache heavy gay porn stars pop up

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    Cheers, I thought it must be a different one.

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    I'm still on FM16, hence they look normal.
    @John he has 1 black star of growth apparently. According to the 20/20 head of youth, he's at 4* CA already. I'm the 10th best team according to reputation too, so that's almost as good as can be.

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    Just faced the following formation:


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    Last week leading up to the deadline saw 2 players leave and 1 come in.

    Max Meyer goes to Bayern in a deal that starts at £43m and rises over £50m in time. I want to give Vincent more game time as he's looked good whenever he's started. Andrija Zivkovic is the other. He'd been ravaged by 2 serious injuries in the last 2 seasons, so £12m is good money. Given he's also still 25, his move to Wolves in the Premier League should give him a shot at attracting another move. A 50% of next sale clause means we can take advantage of that.

    The incoming is from one of our feeder clubs in Oviedo. My scout returned a report stating he had a £13.75m release clause. So Ruben Calvio is worth a shot at least. He's not perfect and I wanted to loan him back to Spain, but he wouldn't have it. For the price it seemed worth a shot.


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    That Calvio kid will be seriously good. You're looking at a few twenties in important striker stats once he develops. Stick him on poacher training and he'll be the best striker in the world in two seasons.

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    I'm using a Chinese strikerless formation, and yeah I'm United, but first season I'm 17-0-0 in the league, one draw in the CL, won every single game across all competitions. Its fucking brutal and the football is wank material.

    You'd no doubt get merked 8-0 if you were Cheltenham but holy shit this is up there with Diablo.

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    This:

    bad man ting

    OIs on page 31.

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    3500 more passes in the league than any other team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    After pulling up short in both Europe and the league last year. I decided it was change time. I'm only bringing in players that will improve the first team, not just the squad.

    The pre-arranged deal I spoke of before sees Arthur Seguin bought for an initial £25m. However there's a fair amount of add ons which, if he stays for a couple of seasons will see that up to £40m.

    Toggle Spoiler


    Next comes what I've done since picking the game up. We were looking a little toothless at the front and back. Plenty of potential without a massive amount of current ability. To that end I sought out a centre back. To be fair there weren't a great deal available that would have improved the team. Eventually we found Luka Corcic. I have him working on that aerial ability. If I can get that jumping into the teens he'll be a very good defender. £44m.

    Toggle Spoiler


    Lastly the one I'm excited for. I wanted a star. The type everyone wants on their shirt. Introducing Philipp Zetterer. By far and away the best forward I found. Originally from Bayern, he went out on loan to Ingolstadt in the 2nd tier scoring 25 in 34. Then on to Betis and scored 21 in 38 games as an 18 year old in La Liga. This prompted RB Leipzig to buy him for £15m. Annoyingly I found him just after he had moved. Fast forward another year he netted 24 in 31 and was 2nd top scorer in the league. The only problem was RBL were sticking to his minimum fee release clause of £65m. In the end I paid it. He then scored 1 minute into the Community shield to properly announce himself.

    Toggle Spoiler


    I've moved on some failed prosepects and fringe players now and brought £95m back in to balance that £130m spend. Though in honesty I've still about £160m to spend.

    Squad now looks like so:



    Now the annoyance is Bayern have just rocked up wanting Hugo, who according to that is my best player. I have no real need to sell, however he's the type to kick up a fuss, so I'm not sure if to sell.
    Offer him a new contract

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soldier View Post
    This:

    bad man ting

    OIs on page 31.
    Mental. I'm starting to get the itch again now

    Why are people calling it "strikerless" when it has three up top?

    Also - any ideas where I can find a decent "future save" thread? I kinda prefer playing with a bunch of regens as I don't fall into the trap of buying the same people every time then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    Mental. I'm starting to get the itch again now

    Why are people calling it "strikerless" when it has three up top?

    Also - any ideas where I can find a decent "future save" thread? I kinda prefer playing with a bunch of regens as I don't fall into the trap of buying the same people every time then.
    I normally start a new game by firing it up and holidaying for a couple of seasons, then adding a manager to take over who I want and retire the original. Mixes it up a bit, just do it for longer.

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    Deciding to give this a bash with DS' tactic. Absolutely hammered them, didn't score and then Stewart Downing scored a 35 yarder to beat us 1-0. FM never changes.

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    I was drawn against Steaua in the CL playoff and was annoyed as they were the strongest of the unseeded teams and then this happened:



    Leao replaced Larsson in the 65th minute so that the latter gets a standing ovation and went and grabbed a hat-trick in the next 5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Deciding to give this a bash with DS' tactic. Absolutely hammered them, didn't score and then Stewart Downing scored a 35 yarder to beat us 1-0. FM never changes.
    Let it gel lad. All 3 slots, training in match tactics.




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    Didn't lose a single game in any competition, and won every single trophy.

    I haven't done that since CM01/02

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soldier View Post
    Didn't lose a single game in any competition, and won every single trophy.

    I haven't done that since CM01/02
    Boring as fuck though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
    Boring as fuck though.
    Yup already bored with the save. Won the Charity Shield 7-1 and quit.

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    Look at the state of that salary per annum difference.

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    Tried the Chinese tactic DS posted as a test, put Motherwell on autopilot and sat on the beach all season. First time round it saw a league cup victory, second season the cup was retained and then this happened:



    Seems to be pretty effective then.

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    In the midst of a cracking save with Marseille. I've managed to power through 6 seasons so far and we have won 2 league titles, 1 french fa cup, 1 Europa league and 3 league cup's. PSG have started to dominate the league in the last 2 seasons there squad is absolutely insane, they've also won the Champions League twice which is great for the French leagues coefficients as we now sit second behind the Premier League. My major gripe so far is that I lose a major star every summer when the big boys come sniffing around.

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    My second season with Norwich turned into a pretty good one:









    Our FA cup run was great, outplaying Chelsea at their place in the Quarter-Final, beating Stoke in the Semi before almost beating champions Arsenal in the final. They won it in the last minute of extra time. In the league we found ourselves something like seven points adrift with five games to go, but clawed it back to win the play-offs.

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    So I've been using the same tactic for 2 seasons now and mid-way through my 3rd the familiarity dropped from like 90+ to 5% or something, for no apparent reason. Pretty annoying and it might be confirmation bias but it seems that indeed the players are not familiar with it, doing unusual passes and whatnot. Played over a season since and it's not going back up (even though the squad is relatively unchanged). Pretty damn annoying.

    Funny thing is that most of the new players I sign are significantly more familiar with the tactic than the old ones.

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    That DS tactic is so broken. I won the league with Stoke in my first season despite buying no-one and selling half the team.

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    I let Nuneaton run with it on autopilot for years and from 2017 in the sixth tier, by 2030 they were a top half Premier League team with a Europa League to their name and a 30000-seater stadium they didn't even consider naming in my honour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    That DS tactic is so broken. I won the league with Stoke in my first season despite buying no-one and selling half the team.
    Who'd you sell, out of interest?

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    Noticed a relatively high amount of missed penalties and took a look at the league as a whole. 66% conversion ratio, surely that's too low?

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    66% off the price of the current FM on Steam, for anyone who hasn't got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsd View Post
    Who'd you sell, out of interest?


    Shaqiri was injured for 8 months so I had to rely on Diouf a bit prior to that. Pieters demanded a move and was replaced by Duarte for his release clause. Butland didn't play a game all season.

    Current squad due to Shaqiri leaving to City for 50 million, replaced by Siggurdson for 20. Currently in a state of flux because Stoke don't have a single player trained by them for the CL. I've bought a load of 16 year olds to try fix this. Shenton looks good though.




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    Games between us were both 1-1 draws so we ended up qualifying courtesy of our coefficient. Deserved!

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    You know you had a good game when you completed 108% of your passes.

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    Harry Redknapp was in charge of the OPTA that day.

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