I think he had a good game and then his knee fell apart again.
I think he had a good game and then his knee fell apart again.
3 goals in 10 appearances, MATE.Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Yeah Fabregas maybe not, we can switch him for the hero that is Fernandonho
Carrick isn't better than Pogba either. His legs are pretty much Scholes'd out at this point.
I'd go with Phonics description. He plays the game uniquely and seems to just glide through games. He can be exceptional when he wants.
edit: And Gudungen can't be better as his knees are just fucked.
Chelsea don't have anyone who 'controls' games either, aside from when we wheel Fabregas out and even he doesn't really. What we do have is the ludicrous ball winning monster that is Kanté, who makes anyone next to him look good.
Generally 'controlling a game' is football slang for being a slow player.
Yet 90% of the best teams have someone who does just that?
Real - Modric, Kroos
Barca - Iniesta
Bayern - Alonso
PSG - Verratti
etc.
In slow leagues, yeah.
Where do you get this stuff
It's all a bit of a throw-back to 4-4-fucking-2, when you had an Engine Room rather than any sort of shape, and Roy Keane would win matches the day before simply by having more CHARACTER than the rest of the league combined. Carrick controls the game, Ander Herrera runs around and gets people booked, and Ogba phones it in until he can be arsed, at which point he either does something to take four opposition players out of the game or hits the bar from a mile away. The best comparison would be to how Juventus used to set up in the late-nineties (or France, or Madrid when they were good) to allow Zinedine Zidane to doss in and out of games.
On the rationale of the more rabid mid-00s Liverpool fan Pogba's hit the woodwork often enough this year for United to be considered top on moral grounds.
Defending was atrocious from City for that goal.
One of the nice things about Mourinho is he actually values having defenders who can defend and a goalkeeper who can save shots, unlike 'Pep' and his ilk.
Pogba has been rubbish, before you even consider the fee.
No he hasn't.
Huddersfield are going to get absolutely bummed here, once a goal goes in for City.
Some of Huddersfield's players must have money on when the first penalty would be awarded. They've been trying their best for the last 10 minutes.
He's not been great by any measure.
Lol.
Who do a Championship club think they are putting a shit string out for a game like this? German idiot.
There's not really much point as it's a competition where it's either win or nothing, and they're not winning it regardless.
They're playing us at the weekend and they have a game in hand, so all going well they could be within 2 points of us.
You reckon he's had a better season than Kante?Lol.
Not necessarily, but it looks like he has been pretty great by most measures. I think he's done very well this season.
Really? He has 4 goals and 3 assists. Dele Alli has 12 goals and 2 assists. Matt Phillips has 4 goals and 8 assists. Joe Allen has 6 and 2. That's not pretty great at all.
He's very indisciplined, positionally naive and relies on being bigger and stronger than everyone to try to play himself out of trouble. It's embarrassing how ridiculous he looks playing in a midfield 2, for Ł100m you should be able to slot seamlessly into 2-3 positions minimum on the park. He can play barely half of one.
Which three positions do you think he should be able to excel in?
For that money, any of them. As opposed to getting a slightly better Moussaka Sissoko.
The three central midfield positions would be a start.
What are those, DCM, CM, and AMC? No room for specialisation in this world.
The point is the price versus return and the fact he can play one of those positions and only in a very specific set of circumstances.
Does that make 'Zlatan' crap because he isn't good on the wing?
Zlatan was free mate so shut the fuck up.
Kante as an AMC (since you've been wanking on about him)?
The original point was whether he is in the top three Premier League midfielders. Why is his transfer fee relevant to that? Similarly, Carrick can only perform in one position in a particular set of circumstances, and you were happy to have his name in the frame.
I guess the logic is if Kante can play one position well and cost Ł30m, then Pogba should either be three times as good in one position or just as good in three.
Solid argument.
Why are you focusing on the 2-3 positions point but ignoring everything else? I said "...for the money" so there is no comparison.
That size of fee is always relevant I think @Lewis. Especially when there are players who play that position better for a fifth of the fee.
For that money you're expecting the best player in the entire world or at very very least someone with the potential to be. He's very much neither.
The always entertaining Las Palmas winning at the Bernabeu and Gareth Bale has been sent off.
Forget this. lol at Sergio Aguero not speaking English after six years here. Tip rat.
3-1 now! Shocker.
3-1 to Vinny Samways' Barmy Army now.
Hilarious goalkeeping from Navas
Luis Binmanque is quitting at the end of the year as well. If Big Sam has a relegation release clause.
Certainly wasn't boring anyway!
Poggers was simply the most famous star, and probably best player, they could get in that position at that time. The transfer fee is irrelevant. United have unlimited funds so they just pay whatever the market rate is and probably make a lot of it back just by sticking him on the side of noodle boxes.
The fuck you know about that? If Zlatan wanted to go on the wing and be good on the wing, then Zlatan would be good on the wing.
If Zlatan would want the wing to move into the middle to suit his style, the wing would move. It's Zlatan.
Juventus used him there for half of the 2005/06 season, and his BOTTLER reputation is (was) largely down to how useless he was.
Barcelona shifted him to the wing as well.
How do you remember seasons like that, Lewis? For Juventus as well, not even United.
Back then I used to watch loads more than I do now. That Juventus team made 'LvG' United look exciting.
I meant the dates by the way. I can remember teams and players but I'd have to look back or watch one of those Premier League Seasons or whatever to know how which year it was or how other teams coincided.
I normally would, but if you remember Juventus getting relegated (for CHEATING, Vim) after that season you can place it all easier.
I'm amazing at dates until about 2004, but after that it all fades into one big load of meh. Who the fuck knows when 2008 was.
It would be good to re-live that Fabio Capello season at Madrid, when he fell out with everybody and won the worst title ever, under current 24/7 coverage and meaningless hot-take rules (not to mention the OUTRAGE culture, having fat-shamed Ronaldo).
Woah, Antonio Cassano is a free agent. If football was still good he would come over, score eight goals to keep Crystal Palace up, be crap for three months, and then force a move to Parma.
It really does, anything from around 2002 to current season - 2 is lost on me.
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