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Thread: [FOOTBALL] Summer 2016 Transfer Window Thread: Pep vs Jose II

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    I always get the feeling that the MEN favours United (at least from a news perspective), which must baffle the people of Manchester, who I'm led to believe are almost all City fans.

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    Regional papers on football are almost as lol as local papers on every other subject. The amount of West Ham gubbins that finds its way into the back of the Evening Standard is incredible. Poor old Palace hardly get a look in.

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    There's a belting Facebook page that collates all the best lol local news stuff and it's probably the funniest thing on there. 'Angry People in Local Newspapers'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamski View Post
    I can't believe this is even a debate .

    Come back to me when you can't play Dota cause it's raining in your living room. Jesus Christ.
    Your internet connection is bad so it takes an extra 0.25 seconds to register your clicks. The reaction time between a top football player and an average one is about 0.1 seconds. Done.

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    Draxler has agreed to move to P$G instead of Arsenal.......

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    I, for one, am shocked

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    Wining the league, living in Paris and getting paid shitloads instead of playing for 4th and earning half as much. Hang on...

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    You had me until 'living in Paris'. A little known fact is that it's a shithole.

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    Compared to whatever German backwater he's in...

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    Twitter sez that West Brom have opened the Morgan Schneiderlin bidding at eighteen million. The poor bastard.

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    What is Pulis going to do with him exactly?

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    What a defence United will have if they sign this Victor Lindelof by the way. I've never seen him play, but Phil Jones at right-back was always amazing, and Antonio Valencia could become even more world class at left-back, making right-footed wingers seethe themselves to death. Further, could Daley Blind replace Michael Carrick?

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    If you just want them to defend, wrong footed full backs are underrated, especially in this era of wanky cutting inside.

    They are tragic going forward though.

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    'The Bosingwa Role'.

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    You mean to say there's a United player for sale and Everton aren't circling? I don't buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    'The Bosingwa Role'.
    That sounds like a thriller based on the adventures of Jorge Mendes.

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    Lindelof is pretty assured and seems like he could be a player. I wouldn't say he's€40m though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    If you just want them to defend, wrong footed full backs are underrated, especially in this era of wanky cutting inside.

    They are tragic going forward though.
    Milner's doing alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Lindelof is pretty assured and seems like he could be a player. I wouldn't say he's€40m though.
    I think this is insane. He's a bit of a talent. But he's 22, he's "only" played 11 times for Sweden, and he's never really been amazing or anything, just pretty standard to me. Though I always find it a bit hard to judge Defender talent, it's not always obvious that they are good (only when they are bad). So yeah, 40 million seems a bit insane. I guess it's always a bit inflated when it's mid-season, but still.

    Kompany and Cannavaro are two of the few defenders I've ever seen and though "damn, son".

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    22 for a defender is like 18 for a forward.

    And it's inflated because United have unlimited cash and Benfica presumably don't need to sell.

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    The story of how Benfica managed to screw the team they bought him off out of a payday is quite impressive.

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    I understand those things, Jim. Let me put it this way: I think his actual value might've been like 10-15 million quid or so. Maybe 17. Inflating that to 20 or maybe even 25 because it's mid-season, united and Benfica might have been understandable. But 35 million just seems a bit excessive.

    Then again, it did so with Martial as well, so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    The story of how Benfica managed to screw the team they bought him off out of a payday is quite impressive.
    It's still an issue with FIFA, and the decision they come to will have huge implications for "percentage of next sale"-type clauses.

    If I understand the specific case correctly, Benfica are basically claiming that since they signed a new contract with Lindelöf after the transfer, the previous agreement with Västerås is voided and they now have no obligations towards them aside from solidarity fee? Seems ridiculous to me, the contractual situation between buyer <-> player should have no impact on the situation between buyer <-> seller.

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    Remember that the '£38m' or whatever will be the absolute high-point that the figure could rise to. It'll probably be more like £20m + a bunch of incentives, like Martial's deal.

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    It's actually structured as £1 up front and £37,999,999 when he wins the Ballon D'or.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    The story of how Benfica managed to screw the team they bought him off out of a payday is quite impressive.
    So glad you shared it.
    @Bernanke thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernanke View Post
    It's still an issue with FIFA, and the decision they come to will have huge implications for "percentage of next sale"-type clauses.

    If I understand the specific case correctly, Benfica are basically claiming that since they signed a new contract with Lindelöf after the transfer, the previous agreement with Västerås is voided and they now have no obligations towards them aside from solidarity fee? Seems ridiculous to me, the contractual situation between buyer <-> player should have no impact on the situation between buyer <-> seller.
    I've just read they are saying that they let his contract run out - at which point he became a free agent and the agreement became void - and then immediately re-signed him.

    It's proper shithouse behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    I've just read they are saying that they let his contract run out - at which point he became a free agent and the agreement became void - and then immediately resigned him.

    It's proper shithouse behaviour.
    Portugeezers.

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    How is the sell-on clause anything to do with the player's contract?

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    Yeah that's absolute garbage, although you can see what they were trying to play at. Weren't there similarly idiotic shenanigans around one of 'Hamez' Rodriguez's transfers, although that could have been Porto on the end of an attempted Monagascan shafting?

    I see Real had their transfer ban reduced to effectively nothing as well the other day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    How is the sell-on clause anything to do with the player's contract?
    Hopefully FIFA see it the same way.

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    Forty million isn't that much when they spent thirty on Eric Bailly, who 1) had about ten minutes of first team football to his name; and 2) played for a Spanish club who would probably have taken a tenner and some greasy ham. It's January, Portuguese clubs seem pretty adept at conning people... Whatever mate.

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    Manchester "Lehman Brothers" United, too big to fail.

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    Wait, no, Lehman Brothers did fail.

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    BBC has Oscar to Shanghai for £60m as official.

    lol

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    The contract must be monstrous. Great move for Chelsea.

    EDIT: £400,000 a week.

    £39 a minute

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    That is properly good business for us, should clear FFP for a while. Thanks, China.

    Could do with a centre half in January, although I guess Zouma falls into the 'like a new signing' column.

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    “We went there and Thierry Henry said to me: ‘Please, Emmanuel, this is Buckingham Palace, it’s the Queen’s house, don’t do anything.' “‘No problem,’ I said. ‘Don’t worry’. So the Queen came in and went along shaking each player’s hand. After she’d finished I saw all her corgis so I said, ‘Ma’am, Ma’am’. She turned back and asked, ‘How are you?’ and I said, ‘Ma’am, I am OK thank you but please, I don’t want to be a footballer any more, I want to look after your dogs. I want to take them for walks, wash them, feed them. I want to be a dog carer.


    Eboue

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    Tevez going to earn £615,000 per week in CHINA. Jesus.

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    A pound a second I believe.

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    I didn't know Tevez was still playing.

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    Where was he?

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    Boca. Went back because he was sick of speaking Italian/English and missed his family.

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    And now clearly he got sick of not having loads and loads of money pumped into his bank account each month. Fair enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Boca. Went back because he was sick of speaking Italian/English and missed his family.
    China should work then.

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    It was announced a few days back that we've no money to spend, our owner is looking to sell and Moyes was given false promises before taking over. Oh, and M'Vila isn't coming back.

    Moyes has started to pick up a few wins but his signings so far have been really underwhelming.

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    David Moyes: Manchester United's great traditions have gone says Sunderland boss

    It's obviously a bit lol, and he's a hypocrite talking about how he tried to sign Bale and Fabregas, but I thought it was an interesting point nonetheless.

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    He's a boring non entity.

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    This Villa guy is a LOOSE CANNON: https://www.theguardian.com/football...s-jordan-amavi

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