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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    Ageing ex-Leicester managers are all the rage these days.
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    Paulo Sousa seems like the perfect Interim Manager sort.

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    I'm shocked nobody's offering odds on Wayne Rooney.

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    Or Ryan Giggs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Or Ryan Giggs.
    Did you read the stuff about Gigg's interview with Swansea? Apparently when asked how he would change their fortunes (expecting a lengthy discussion on individual players and tactics), Gigg's basically responded with "more fight, more energy".

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    Then when he didn't get the job, he suggested that Swansea had already picked Bradley and it was pointless him being interviewed.

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    It's all a bit Paul Ince.

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    If it was slick powerpoint presentations they wanted they should probably have interviewed Big Sam. Probably if they wanted to stay up as well.

    Not to defend Giggs, but what is he supposed to say about players he doesn't know? The tactical thesis approach has landed them where they are. Perhaps he just comes across as a berk (highly likely) but I don't see the point in criticising him for not knowing Neil Taylor has 15 for passing and performs best with a small farrow and instructions to get to the byiine.

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    Really? If you going for the job of Swansea manager, then I would expect some tactical insight as to who you expect to play and which players you highlight as particularly strong or weak. Surely the whole point of the interview is to get across your tactical approach to the game and impress onto the interviewers your ability to understand all of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    If it was slick powerpoint presentations they wanted they should probably have interviewed Big Sam. Probably if they wanted to stay up as well.

    Not to defend Giggs, but what is he supposed to say about players he doesn't know? The tactical thesis approach has landed them where they are. Perhaps he just comes across as a berk (highly likely) but I don't see the point in criticising him for not knowing Neil Taylor has 15 for passing and performs best with a small farrow and instructions to get to the byiine.
    Landed them where they are? They're in one of their most successful periods of their history.

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    In need of replacing their manager, who has been in post for less than a year, after 7 games of the season. That's where they are.

    5 year plans are all well and good, but they're not the only way to manage. Presumably Giggs' main managerial influence at this point in his career is still Fergie, who would probably have been nearer the PASSION! (read: mentality) end of the managerial spectrum than the tactics truck one.

    With Giggs, like any novice/untested manager (high profile ex-player), you are buying into the man more than the philosophy. If that's not something you are prepared to do, then it is probably pointless to go down that avenue.

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    @niko_cee I don't really see what you're getting at with the 'tactical thesis approach'. Has it been made invalid as an approach for some reason? It was good in the first four Premier League seasons (as well as being what got them there), and won them their first major trophy, but is suddenly now crap?

    The above on Giggs is just conjecture. We don't know what he is like and neither did they. From the sounds of it, they met him to find out what he was like and didn't think he was suitable. Sounds reasonable enough.

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    Giggs is a twat. Should have applied for the Newport County job.

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    Given he has no connection with Swansea whatsoever, the entitlement with which he has approached the job is a bit out of place.

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    I've never understood the logic behind giving ex-players a managers job. Unless (as I've always suspected) it's all just a crapshoot then why on earth would you employ Ryan Giggs, he's done fuck all.

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    Because they KNOW FOOTBALL and are FOOTBALL MEN.

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    http://www.thecomet.net/sport/footba...ants_1_4735728

    We'll shit 'em.

    Their fancy dan youth wankers won't know what hit them, especially with a pissed up Guillem Ballague in the stands chanting for the Canaries.

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    More 'keepers than forwards

    Nice to see a couple of token Dundalk's though, even though there's not a snowballs they make the 23.

    GK: Darren Randolph (West Ham United), Keiren Westwood (Sheffield Wednesday), Colin Doyle (Bradford City), Ian Lawlor (Manchester City), Danny Rogers (Falkirk)

    DEF: Seamus Coleman (Everton), Cyrus Christie, Richard Keogh, Alex Pearce (Derby County), John O'Shea (Sunderland), Ciaran Clark (Newcastle United), Paul McShane (Reading), Shane Duffy (Brighton & Hove Albion), Andy Boyle (Dundalk), Stephen Ward (Burnley)

    MID: Aiden McGeady (Preston North End), James McClean (West Bromwich Albion), Jeff Hendrick (Burnley), James McCarthy (Everton), Stephen Quinn (Reading), Glenn Whelan (Stoke City), Harry Arter (Bournemouth), Eunan O'Kane (Leeds United), David Meyler (Hull City), Stephen Gleeson (Birmingham City), Conor Hourihane (Barnsley), Robbie Brady, Wes Hoolahan (Norwich City), Callum O'Dowda (Bristol City), Jonathan Hayes (Aberdeen), Daryl Horgan (Dundalk)

    FW: Jonathan Walters (Stoke City), Adam Rooney (Aberdeen), Kevin Doyle (Colorado Rapids), David McGoldrick (Ipswich Town)

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    Five keepers? WUT

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    Haven't seen a squad yet, but jaysus it looks from this like they've actually made the 23.


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    They deserve it. Horgan in particular is class.


    Brown is back for Scotland and everything about this England side is going to be lol, I think Scotland are getting at least a point on Friday.

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    England will win with absolute ease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dino View Post
    They deserve it. Horgan in particular is class.
    He's had a brilliant end to the season, I'll be interested to see what he'll be like if he gets a move up the ladder in January.

    Be also interesting if he gets on the pitch for the international side how he'll play in a team that plays shit football


    EDIT: It's 28, not 23. Pity there wasn't a striker that could have been called up too.



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    I clocked that Rooney had been listed in the 'midfielders' section of the England squad announcement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    I clocked that Rooney had been listed in the 'midfielders' section of the England squad announcement
    I had a list of tell tale signs for Allardyce (and future managers I guess) that would let us know he/they would be crap.

    As it happens, we only need one for now. If the incumbent is playing Rooney in midfield, that's it. Game over. They're shit.

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    Southgate will have a four year contract by Christmas. No idea why, but he will. If I were a root and branch review professional I'd be clearing my diary for the next decade and parking myself outside Lancaster Gate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I had a list of tell tale signs for Allardyce (and future managers I guess) that would let us know he/they would be crap.

    As it happens, we only need one for now. If the incumbent is playing Rooney in midfield, that's it. Game over. They're shit.
    Wilshere back too, after completing TWO WHOLE GAMES

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    Every time Wilshere completes a full 90 minutes, an angel loses it's wings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    Wilshere back too, after completing TWO WHOLE GAMES
    It's fucking disgusting.

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    Does he have compromising pictures of someone?

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    Nope. He's just part of the 'looked fucking promising' brigade at one point when he was young, many moons ago.

    Which is exactly the example of why I'd exercise caution over Rashford at this stage.

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    Man of the Match in fifty of his last ten international games, and I think we're quick to forget that Barcelona...

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    I really don't understand what's wrong with say Mark Noble as a central midfield option. Knows his job, does it well, has done it for years. We constantly overlook people like that in favour of god only knows what.

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    We've always had somebody crap and 'unglamorous' in there. Gareth Barry, the late Owen Hargreaves, Scott Parker for those six months people thought he was good, Jordan Henderson, Eric Dier... Meanwhile, Michael Carrick has less caps than Shaun Wright-Phillips.

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    Probably because he coincided with Frankie Lamps and Stevie G.

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    So did the first three chumps.

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    Some of my mackem workrate believe Defoe is being criminally overlooked for the squad. All of his goals for Sunderland since forever have been penalties.

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    International football is shit. Another 1.5 weeks gap to watch England be shit.
    Can we just fuck off qualifiers and friendlies and just invite every country to a tournament.

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    Not International football related but this is a cracking defense



    "I was just waving my arm at 'im guv" "I didn't know they were joos"

    Another update:



    Totally inncoent, it's the Nazi version of


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    Since when did doing the Nazi Salute become an offence? Incredibly stupid, but illegal??

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    Or is this one of those blanket "inciting racial hatred"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    Since when did doing the Nazi Salute become an offence? Incredibly stupid, but illegal??
    Around the same time shouting 'nigger' at a group of black people did.

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    It's political correctness gone mad.

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    A 10 second google search suggests that it is still not illegal in the U.K.

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    "I was saying hail because the weather looked like it was taking a turn"

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    A turn for the wurst.

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    I just hope Lallana can hitler back of the net.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    A 10 second google search suggests that it is still not illegal in the U.K.
    Abuse on the basis of race absolutely is illegal. Just doing a Nazi salute, probably not, but doing a Nazi salute in front of (people you perceive to be) Jews is.

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    I would suggest that a Nazi salute isn't really anti-Semitic, more so just a fascist symbol. Hitler killed more Russian's than he did Jews - so by that reckoning the Nazi salute is anti-Russian.
    Semantics perhaps - but I don't see how doing a Nazi salute should be a criminal offense - extremely stupid and pathetic, yes - illegal, not so sure.

    Anyway, back to the footy - don't think I'm going to bother watching tomorrow.

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    You've already had this explained to you.

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