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    The gym near my old house in Manchester has got even better. They've put a load of cross fit type equipment in a gazebo to add to all the other old school gym stuff. Wish the gym I go to near me in Frankfurt wasn't so bollocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Another MyProtein sale (you can use code "Athleteperks" for an extra 5% off) so I've ordered more Cereal Milk.

    Also trying their Protein Pancake mix, sugar free syrup and Protein Oats.

    174 quid for 5kg of unflavoured whey protein last time I ordered that weight it was about 50 quid a few years back. Scandalous. The sale offer brings it down to a semi decent price though.

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    I seem to have lost squatting power in my quads.

    Still doing goblet squats and I'm finding it hard coming back up. Was doing about 3x10 with 40KG dumbbell but today I was struggling to hit 7 with no weight. It's been the same for the last 2/3 sessions and I decided to drop to a 24kg dumbbell to try and get more reps in but at 7 each set I'm done.

    Seems to be near my knee that just gives up.

    Quad working fine on leg press though.

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    There's only so long you can go on gaining strength while losing weight. Eventually the NOOB gains will dry up.

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    The NOOB gains are still happening everywhere else though

    Even if I've got no weight my quad muscle just gives up squatting. I was doing so well with the goblet squats too.

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    How often are you squatting? Maybe just give it a rest for a few days and then try it again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    How often are you squatting? Maybe just give it a rest for a few days and then try it again?
    I do 4 days PPL. So it's 1 or 2 days a week.

    3 days rest is the minimum in that split.

    Goblet squats and Sumo squats (which are progressing great).

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    I did try hip thrusts for the first time today.

    Must have given anyone who was watching nightmare fuel for years.

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    How - it could be some compensation on your squat that's causing your quad to be giving up. Have a look at squat university on YouTube/Instagram for some tips. Might be worth getting someone to watch your technique or filming it yourself. I also recommend building up your mobility and trying to go deeper without the weight plus looking at building up hip and ankle mobility.

    I had a nice day on the squats. Got myself up to 130kg which is the highest for a while mixed in with some raised lunges. I cancelled the knee op as I think I've managed to rehab it back into shape.

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    I don’t know what level you’re at but you need to deload eventually. As you get stronger you need to deload more. Thor, for example, will deload every other week.

    Just take a week off the usual weights and it should sort itself out assuming you aren’t injured.

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    I actually think Keeks might be right about form.

    Thinking back I might be going too wide on my stance with the goblet squats and flaring my knees out (hence the pain there). I did some bodyweight only squats at home later and it wasn't as bad. I also think that maybe doing the goblet squats first might not be great for me as my legs are too stiff.

    It also might be a mental thing. I had a bad day on squats and it's just rolled on now. I reckon I could have pushed past the barrier but thought I can't in my head without really trying. Other lifts I'll put everything into trying to squeeze out more.

    In terms of deloading I've done one deload in the 11 months I've been doing this which was a month ago. Not sure if I did it right though as I lost a lot of strength when I came back full guns blazing.

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    Aren't you meant to push your knees out? As opposed to letting them fall in?

    Make sure you're not lifting up your heels and then pushing up on your toes as a result. That puts pressure on your knees. My ankle flexibility is shit and I used to get knee pain before when my heels would come up. I invested in proper squat shoes with the raised solid heel and that seemed to fix it for me.

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    Fuck knows, maybe I'm not pushing them out enough then.

    I use weight plates under my heels.

    Edit: Judging from videos and thinking back on my form. I think my stance is too narrow and I'm leaning forward slightly.
    Last edited by Sir Andy Mahowry; 02-05-2024 at 10:06 PM.

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    You pretty much want to get to this motion. I have a pretty wide stance knee out squat which works for me.

    More info here as well: https://squatuniversity.com/2016/04/...-of-the-squat/

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    Think I will do the deload week starting on Monday as it will have been 7 weeks since the last.

    I think I'll go in for 3 days rather than 4 (to give me an extra rest day and so it's one session each of PPL), reduce the weight by around 50% and only do 2 sets of each lift rather than 3.

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    Trying to find updates on WSM is a joke. It’s 2024, live stream the bastard thing.

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    https://barbend.com/2024-worlds-strongest-man-results/

    I hope Tom Staunchman wins. Mitchell Hooper doing what he does whilst being sort of normal looking is unnerving.

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    Ta.

    He should do now looking at that leaderboard. It’s a decent advantage going in the final day when you’re guaranteed to win the stones. But yeah, Mitch is a freak as I’ve said before. Other than his head shape, he looks like a completely normal bloke you’d see at the gym. I’m just imagining some of the other fatties in this doing the athletic shit he can do

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    He does seem to have some serious genetics (baldness aside). Skinny marathon runner. Tries powerlifting for something to do, turns out to be amazing at it. Drifts into strongman... I watched a video of him doing his daily routine and he doesn't even seem to have to eat the silly calories that the others take in as well. Eddie Hall and his ten fry ups a day in the mud.

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    Eddie must take about 20 supplements a day based on the routine videos he does (assuming that is the norm). Plus all the other steroids he’ll smoother into him.

    the fact he still eats all that food and all his routines when not competing hurts my brain. Hot and cold therapy for an hour every single day. No thank you

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    I think he's just in the habit of living that way. So much so that he has completely failed at both boxing and being a bodybuilder, because he enjoys being a fat fuck too much.

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    He looks alright now to be fair to him. Definitely a lot leaner.

    Could still pass for 55 now, mind.

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    Did he actually take the bodybuilding seriously? I thought it was just more inexplicably popular 'STRONGMAN TRIES CUTTING THE GRASS' content.

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    Was class when he bought a tank and took it to a petrol station and then to pick his son up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    He looks alright now to be fair to him. Definitely a lot leaner.

    Could still pass for 55 now, mind.
    He's still easily 25-30% body fat. He just has freakish abs so you can still see them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Did he actually take the bodybuilding seriously? I thought it was just more inexplicably popular 'STRONGMAN TRIES CUTTING THE GRASS' content.
    Well, he said he was going to enter a competition and said he was going to bulk first, to which all the pro-bodybuilders said "bruh, wuh duh fuh? Yuh luh 300lbs, yuh? bruh".

    And then he never mentioned it again as far as I've seen.

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    Wont spoil WSM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    Wont spoil WSM.

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    Had my first fart (accidental) in the gym today

    Was doing leg press and one just came flying out. Usually great at holding them in. Not sure if anyone heard as there wasn't anyone right next to me but I was able to hear it over the music in my headphones so...

    Also, the deload and removing the plates under my heels worked for the knee pain but this week I left the goblet squats and did normal squats on the smith machine. Old lad was subbing in with me as he asked and said my form was great, especially with my back which is cool.

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    Anyone got any tips for squatting?

    Recently moved to the barbell squat and the last few times I've done it the inside of my right knee has some discomfort.

    Tried going lighter, pushing out my hips and knees more as well as doing it barefoot. No joy.

    Edit: Just pushed my hips out a lot more on my final set and it was fine. Guess I'll try doing that next time.
    Last edited by Sir Andy Mahowry; 02-08-2024 at 11:14 AM.

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    (Try squat university)

    You can try using a resistance band to push out on your knees and use a bar only to squat. Also try and work on depth and hold a deeper squat for time (30-1m).

    You could also try some unilateral work like Cossack squats. Go light first though and build up your strength.

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    I think depth and balance is my problem.

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    It's usually a flexibility issue in either the ankles or the hips. There's 2 solutions, either fix that or just do leg press.

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    Ankle mobility almost certainly. Mine was shite for years (and probably is again now I'm not lifting anymore) and sorting it cured all my squat (and hip) issues.

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    My left ankle is a mess so it must be that.

    I do leg press but I want to do both.

    Probably just really scale back weight on the squat to try and slow progress it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    My left ankle is a mess so it must be that.

    I do leg press but I want to do both.

    Probably just really scale back weight on the squat to try and slow progress it.
    It will need stretching exercises. There will be some ankle mobility work on Youtube.

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    Give this a go

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    Squat shoes helped me when I was getting knee pain at first. You could try elevating your heels on a plate instead first to see if that helps. Both of those will help if you've got shit ankle felxibility like others have said.

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    Any decent deals on squat shoes?

    I didn't like plates under my heels when I was doing goblet squats.

    Edit: Might just buy one of these:

    https://www.vinted.co.uk/items/48257...ferrer=catalog

    https://www.vinted.co.uk/items/48287...ferrer=catalog
    Last edited by Sir Andy Mahowry; 02-08-2024 at 03:16 PM.

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    Do it in your socks. The amount of people you see doing it in trainers with an inch of sole on them makes you cringe.

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    I did it in my socks for the first time today but was still getting some knee pain on my first few sets.

    Wasn't until I really put my hips out wide that it stopped.

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    I could never get away with squat shoes, even though in theory it would alleviate my biggest issues. Always squatted in Converse.

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    https://www.vinted.co.uk/items/47897...ferrer=catalog

    Ended up buying these.

    Ł13.69 including delivery, if they're shit they're shit.

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    Moose muscle protein powder is wank, avoid.

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    The one that looks like it was designed by a teenager and seems to only be sold in B&M (probably Home Bargains too)? I'm shocked.

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    Yes well I didn't think it would be amazing but I hoped it would at least mix ok and taste passable, neither is true. Not sure whether to just bin the bag off. Was previously on Applied Nutrition which was far superior.

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    Can you coat a bunch of wet bread with it and try to engineer some super hench seagulls?

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    Tempted to go for a run today but at the same time it's 32°.

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    Pussy.

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    Talked to one of the trainers about my knee problem when squatting and they observed me squatting.

    He said my form was really good, especially my back, and the only thing he thought might be the problem was foot placement. He suggested I "play about" with my stance and suggested a narrower one which seemed to work fairly well. Only other thing he thought it could be was my ankle or hip mobility.

    So at least my form is right and the narrower stance did seem to help but I probably really should try and increase the mobility in my left ankle. Although none of the exercises I was suggested by a physio worked before.

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