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  • Theresa May's Conservatives

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  • Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

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  • Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats

    3 6.82%
  • Paul Nuttall's UKIP

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  • 2 people's Greens

    1 2.27%
  • Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists

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  • Satan's Sinn Fein

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  • Dr Ian Paisley's DUP

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  • Some other bunch of nonces

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    Blocking ambulances getting to hospitals 😍

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    They'd only be sat in the hospital carpark for 18 hours anyway.

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    What?

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    That account has been all over the show of late, they're obviously resorting to complete desperation.

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    Pathetic stuff. Fortunately a lot of this crop will be out of jobs in about seven months.

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    There should be some sort of punishment levelled at the Tories for that, it's absolutely disgusting.

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    They should take it up with the government. They'd be able to fix all those problems, surely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    There should be some sort of punishment levelled at the Tories for that, it's absolutely disgusting.
    They have the punishment of complete electoral wipeout looming in their near future, should suffice.

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    That added context feature might just be the best thing to ever happen to Social media.

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    What is the point of the labour party?

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    What is the point of the labour party?
    My wife works for a nursery and tHe gOvErNmEnTs fReE cHiLdCaRe pLaN was "here, have some more kids, enjoy".

    "but we're already massively under funded and nurseries are going out of business"

    Yeah yeah, work it out.

    "How? We rely on unfunded kids to fund the funded kids, because the government funding doesn't even cover the staffs minimum wage"

    Lol. Work it out.

    "Can we atleast increase the child:adult room ratio then?"

    No no. Work it out.

    What about some kind of subsidy to increase wages? That way we can attract more staff and stop them from leaving"

    Lol. Work it out.

    "OK, please can we atleast cut back on the qualifications requirement? It currently costs Ł2800 for a Level 3 in Childcare. That's an unreasonable expectation for a minimum wage job"

    Work. It. Out.

    It's an unworkable mess. It's just one of many traps the Tories are setting to make the next government's time as difficult as possible.
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    And how have the Abysmal cunts let the NHS got into a position where this is happening?

    They deserve what happened to Gaddafi at this point and anyone that votes for them this time round should be on the first plane we send to Rwanda.

    I'm not convinced by Labour or Starmer, but the only goal here should be getting these horrible cunts out of power.

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    Of course we've got no money when the Government has spent the last decade awarding their pals a load of taxpayer contracts, with hardly any service in return, then the money is promptly siphoned off into offshore bank accounts, never to be seen again.

    Example: Steve Dechan, Conservative councillor for Stroud, resigned in 2020 and was immediately awarded Ł276m in PPE contracts without any competition. One year on, P14 had only delivered 1/400th of its commitment and was soon wound up over an unpaid Ł5.5m tax bill.

    This Government have backpocketed that Ł4bn several times over. Cunts need to go to jail for shit like this. Taxpayer money literally stolen and now sat in Swiss/Cayman bank accounts.

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    The uneaten cat food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    It's an unworkable mess. It's just one of many traps the Tories are setting to make the next government's time as difficult as possible.
    Yep you can see it all over the place now. Just almost fuck it let the country burn but if we can score some points when they come in and reverse some of the measures we are implementing that's a win for us.

    Rwanda
    National Insurance cut
    Removal of lifetime allowance for pensions
    Childcare

    That's four without even looking that hard. All of the Tory ideas around this are absolute dogshit but don't let that get in the way.

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    And if they somehow managed to win the next election, the Tories would quietly dump all the promises themselves anyway.

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    It's about time they actually sold off the NHS. Maybe they can get Musk to bid for it before the election.

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    'Due to your negative opinion about Elon Musk on social media we regret to inform you your life saving operation has been cancelled.'

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    That young girl thing doesn't surprise me though. My wife has an issue with her knee they haven't been 100% sure about it but likely will need an operation to fix it. The process has been ridiculous. Last February she went to our GP(obviously she had to wait 3 weeks to get an appointment) to get it looked at and to be told he will refer her to a specialist. She goes to see said specialist in July who tells her before he can do anything else she needs to have an MRI. She has the MRI in September goes back to the specialist at the beginning of October who tells her yes she needs an operation and will be referred to Adenbrookes. The appointment to see a consultant at Adenbrookes finally comes through for the end of February so she goes for that expecting to get some information on when she may need an operation.

    Consultant is an hour and a half late for the appointment but then when she goes in turns out her MRI scan hasn't been uploaded to her records previously so they can't see anything. But, that she also will need to have an X-Ray and a CT Scan before they can make a decision on what to do. My wife was basically sent on her way(bear in mind the hospital is a good hour away from where we live). She then has to chase our doctors surgery to arrange getting the MRI sent over to the hospital and then has wait for the X-Ray and CT Scans which took place yesterday. Now she has to wait for them to go back to the consultant before she gets an actual appointment to go through her options and if she will get an operation and she will then be placed on a waiting list.

    When people talk about the NHS and wasting money and time this is what they are on about it's absolutely fucking mental. The wastage just in this one example is absolutely incredible there was even a point where they were saying she might need a new MRI as the current one may be out of date.
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    Life in a developing economy. Still, pensioners are doing well.

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    I've had some recent run-ins with NHS and beside some incompetent talent, the real takeaway was seeing some successful use of the NHS app.

    AI will sort so much of the problems out as it replaces these fuckers who can barely speak English or operate a computer and centralises things. But as with all public sector shite, it'll take a few more years than required but it seems at least the NHS has been prioritised so is at least using Windows 7 level software rather than Windows 95.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    And how have the Abysmal cunts let the NHS got into a position where this is happening?

    They deserve what happened to Gaddafi at this point and anyone that votes for them this time round should be on the first plane we send to Rwanda.

    I'm not convinced by Labour or Starmer, but the only goal here should be getting these horrible cunts out of power.
    I've been saying for years this is where we're heading. It was all lols and "they say this every winter" at my "the NHS is going to collapse" speak, but this is what it looks like. You don't wake up one day and suddenly all the A and Es have shut. It's a slow degradation of services until the point is reached where children can't get life-changing/life-saving surgery.

    The health service is right at the precipice. If doctors don't win the wars we are currently fighting against the "workforce plan" and pay, I think we'll be heading towards a two-tier system. You'll be able to chance your luck on Arrrr EN AITCH ESS with Becky, her zoology degree and her two year masters in "the medical model" or you can pay through the nose/have insurance to see a doctor privately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    I've had some recent run-ins with NHS and beside some incompetent talent, the real takeaway was seeing some successful use of the NHS app.

    AI will sort so much of the problems out as it replaces these fuckers who can barely speak English or operate a computer and centralises things. But as with all public sector shite, it'll take a few more years than required but it seems at least the NHS has been prioritised so is at least using Windows 7 level software rather than Windows 95.
    NHS IT systems are absolutely appalling for the most part. A completely different system for literally every small task and they are all fucking wank. The system used for documentation across all the acute units (A and E, Acute Medical Unit, Paediatric Assessment Unit, etc) in my last trust (which was a major regional centre and University Teaching hospital, not St 1980's in Shitland-on-sea) took literally 15 minutes to log into. If you think the NHS is technologying it's way out of the shit then you are even more of a laughable cretin than I thought.
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    The Netherlands (where I live) has a paid-for system and the GPs are absolute dickheads and just prescribe everyone paracetamol. Hospitals tend to be alright if you can get in

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    Why must you be so toxic?

    The post was saying in comparison to other government departments, their use of the NHS app is way ahead and in the grander scheme of things, replacing your fat fingers and slim brain with an AI system will solve everything. HTH.

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    I had a pretty good NHS experience recently via a skin app [skindoctor or something], although there was nothing much for them to do and the 'appointments' took what felt to me like a long time to book/be scheduled/whatever. Showed the power of technology though. I could upload pics as wanted and they could be reviewed and referred without need for face-to-face contact, so much more efficient for all concerned. By the time the old age wart in question was due to be excised it had fallen off of its own accord. Still had the appointment though, at their behest, and have just seen the note sent back to the GP today [8 weeks later] which could and should have been written by AI. I happen to know of an attempt to enter that space in the NHS so maybe there is some light at the end of the tunnel before the whole thing sinks under the weight of its own administrative bureaucracy. More money, and god help us 'letting the doctors run it' aren't going to be the solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I had a pretty good NHS experience recently via a skin app [skindoctor or something], although there was nothing much for them to do and the 'appointments' took what felt to me like a long time to book/be scheduled/whatever. Showed the power of technology though. I could upload pics as wanted and they could be reviewed and referred without need for face-to-face contact, so much more efficient for all concerned. By the time the old age wart in question was due to be excised it had fallen off of its own accord. Still had the appointment though, at their behest, and have just seen the note sent back to the GP today [8 weeks later] which could and should have been written by AI. I happen to know of an attempt to enter that space in the NHS so maybe there is some light at the end of the tunnel before the whole thing sinks under the weight of its own administrative bureaucracy. More money, and god help us 'letting the doctors run it' aren't going to be the solution.
    Never said anything about "letting the doctors run it". Most doctors are obviously not good managers and their skills are better utilised elsewhere. There should definitely be much more involvement of clinical, patient-facing staff - not just doctors - in decision-making though. Many of the decisions made are patently idiotic and it would take a maximum of 5 seconds talking to someone who is actually going to have to deal with said change to find that out in many cases.

    The calibre of people in NHS management positions is absolutely terrible, also.

    It is a horribly inefficient service in a million ways, but it does also need more money. Patients are drastically more complex due to living longer with muiti-morbidity. Treatments are both more expensive and more numerous. Patient numbers have drastically increased. It all costs money to deal with.

    AI will be an interesting one in healthcare and I really doubt it's going to be the revolution people think. Where will culpability lie when the AI bot inevitably makes mistakes, for a start?

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    I always imagined that AI in this context would be replacing the dozy receptionist who can't be arsed to do any work that afternoon, rather than telling the patient to cut their fingers off to stop arthritic pain. Greasing the wheels, if you like.

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    Laurence Fox in the mud.

    Applied to run for Mayor of London, but filled in the form incorrectly so is not eligible.

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    What are the 13 people that would have voted for him going to do now?

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    Post under the username Lewis on thethirdhalf.co.uk

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    Speaking of him, the other day he quickly deleted a post on Twitter of him moaning about child support and accusing Billie Piper of being a massive cokehead who can't look after their kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Post under the username Lewis on thethirdhalf.co.uk
    Isn't sharing an account against the rules? Ban please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    lol out loud at absolutely everyone who thought Lawrence Fox was a viable anything. He is clearly an idiot (in the actual sense of not knowing anything at all, rather than just being a social idiot like many politicians), and I can still see him renouncing it all as a mental health wobble within a couple of years when the reality hits him.
    I said he was a spastic three years ago, which could have saved whoever backs him millions. That libel case against him was a joke mind.

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    Hopefully he takes the only self-respecting way forward and, no, not that, starts bealing about election interference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    The Netherlands (where I live) has a paid-for system and the GPs are absolute dickheads and just prescribe everyone paracetamol. Hospitals tend to be alright if you can get in
    Similarly, the German system works pretty well. Public private with doctors very keen to push you through to specialists and let the insurance pick up the slack. It means you can actually be treated in a reasonable amount of time.

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    Rumours have been swirling on twitter since last night after a report that a 61 year old man was arrested on suspicion of historical sexual offences. All of Jeffrey Donaldson's social media accounts seemed to have been wiped/disappeared on the same day and people were connecting the two. Seems they were right and it was him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post


    Rumours have been swirling on twitter since last night after a report that a 61 year old man was arrested on suspicion of historical sexual offences. All of Jeffrey Donaldson's social media accounts seemed to have been wiped/disappeared on the same day and people were connecting the two. Seems they were right and it was him?
    What's Robinson like? Any way progressive or another tub thumper?

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    I didn’t have “agreeing with Rees-Mogg” on my 2024 bingo card but here we are.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    What's Robinson like? Any way progressive or another tub thumper?
    I think maybe not quite so mad. He did do his best Paisley impression back when he won the East Belfast seat back from Naomi Long of the Alliance in 2015 in a weird speech but apparently he was one of the ones pushing for them to go back into Stormont recently. So not a mentalist like Paisley Jr or Sammy Wilson at least. He's only interim leader though. Fuck knows who they'll appoint/elect as new leader.

    Not sure what it means for the party or Stormont more generally yet. Jamie Bryson (loyalist blogger/activist and general gobshite) who has been at the forefront of anti-protocol protests along with the TUV's Jim Allister has already been suggesting that Jeffrey took the DUP back into Stormont with the "surrender deal" because this was being held over him by the powers that be.

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    Anyone paying any attention to Jim Allister these days only have themselves to blame. He's like a boiling little pot as a human.

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    Mogg is bang on there. You’d struggle to find a worse run company than TW and the idea that we should prop that shit up is cloud cuckoo stuff.

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    Are the people responding to him in bemused agreement surprised that he believes in capitalism or surprised that they do?

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    More in the expectation that, according to today's papers, the Conservative Party are still expected to shift the burden onto the taxpayer rather than let the hedge fund take the massive loss they deserve. No Government in my lifetime has had a reputation of letting capitalism play out when shit hits the fan. The phrase "capitalise the profits, socialise the losses" certainly rings true and the media are suggesting this one will be no different.

    So it seems ol' Jacob isn't toeing the party line here. Which is a shame, because I'd rather they'd do what he's saying on this one.

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    Other than banking and throwing money at certain industrial sites, which you could make a case for in some form, plenty of things have gone down the tubes in our lifetimes without the government stepping in past pension protections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Other than banking and throwing money at certain industrial sites, which you could make a case for in some form, plenty of things have gone down the tubes in our lifetimes without the government stepping in past pension protections.
    They effectively let Bulb go under. Which is probably comparable in size. What’s the difference?

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    Good news everyone!


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    That genuinely looks like it was made by a 9 year old. They are beyond parody.

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