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    Sargent is in that seat through circumstance rather than talent so he should be very careful about how he directs his frustration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    It’s a shame I’m about falling asleep because this quali should be an absolute cracker.
    *checks result*

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    Hamilton is finished.

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    P3 for Norris. I’ll take that. Should be a nice fight for P2 with his buddy

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    Verstappen letting Sainz past so that he can him a slightly more interesting drive today.

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    My bad. Genuine problem. Out the fucking race dutchy.

    Now we got a race on our hands. 'Mon the Nozzler.

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    Of course the one race I don't watch due to being early is the one Max gets fucked.

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    Russell binning it late again, utterly useless. At the rate Merc are going his team mate next year will be some comedy pay driver.

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    Tory Boy getting a reputation for losing his head a bit these days.
    This Ferrari team much more likeable under Fred.

    Mercedes in some deep mud right now. I don't see much of a way out soon either.

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    I'm half expecting Alonso to get the other Mercedes seat, it makes so much sense. All their juniors are either crap or too junior so they could easily get Nando in for a year or two while Antonelli develops into someone who can do F1/disappears into obscurity (or worse, Formula E) with all the other flash in the pan feeder series bods. It also jives perfectly with Alonsos career trajectory given he either torpedoes his own opportunity by being a cunt or joins a team that is on it's way down the shitter.

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    McLaren fucking Norris over again with these delayed pit stops is boring as fuck now.

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    Also Sainz wins that even if Verstappen doesn’t DNF. He was on demon time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Russell binning it late again, utterly useless. At the rate Merc are going his team mate next year will be some comedy pay driver.
    Do they genuinely exist any more? I guess Mazepin was the last one but that came via the sponsor. It's comedy pay sponsors, these days.

    Double points for Haas. Can't remember the last time that happened.
    Last edited by Shindig; 24-03-2024 at 10:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    Also Sainz wins that even if Verstappen doesn’t DNF. He was on demon time
    I think so too. Red Bull didn’t seem their dominant self and surprisingly destroyed their tyres pretty quickly.

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    Nothing would be funnier than a sustained Sainz title challenge. Obviously Verstappen will win the next 16 in a row so whatever, but you know what I mean.

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    I'm mildly miffed the 100% season is borked by March.

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    Unreliability needs to come back. Maybe give someone a big red button and whenever they press it a random car has some sort of failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    I'm mildly miffed the 100% season is borked by March.
    Especially so when he wins the rest of them. Just boring.

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    Alonso didn’t half get battered with his punishment. Also didn’t realise Russell ended up half upside down in the middle of the track. He’s lucky Stroll wasn’t a few seconds closer in behind or that could have been grim.

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    Yeah Russell was a sitting duck there. Bottom of the car with the least protection for him and it was on show to anyone coming up ready to smack him. You could hear his panic in the car over the team radio. Agree with him it did take them a bit too long to throw anything considering he was lying covering the entire track down there.

    I also don't actually think the penalty for Alonso is severe enough, if he has broke early to throw Russell off.

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    If I know racing drivers then he'll have been wanting the red flag so that it counted the result from the end of lap 57 instead of the time when his head was scraping along the deck.

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    Nascar at COTA is a bit of a laugh.

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    Kamui Kobayashi brought in as a specialist running 25th.

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    A specialist at what, turning right?

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    Using chopsticks I guess, based on how he's doing.

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    The year it rained at COTA for the Nascar race was the best, the little vestigial wipers all broke instantly and nobody knew where to brake.

    Agree with whoever mentioned reliability, they should kill two birds with one stone and just make the cars about a metre shorter and tell the engineers to suck it up and make everything smaller. Once the tech is this established then reliability goes through the roof.

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    The cars are just way too big now. Looking back to 2006-2008, the small cars are so nippy and nimble. The current breed just look so sluggish and cumbersome. Monaco last year was a joke – I recall Sargeant and Stroll not being able to make the hairpin owing to the limited steering lock / size.

    I can't think of anything I'd like more this season than for Sainz to absolutely don it.

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    Why are the cars so big? Is it safety?

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    Safety plus the fucking huge battery.

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    Yeah, the battery alone is something silly like 500kg.

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    Forgive me if I'm being daft, but why can't the power generated by the energy recovery be directly injected/blended into the power provided by the engine therefore eliminating (or severely reducing) the need for batteries? It'd also level the playing field a bit in so much of not having stupid attacking and defensive battery modes.

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    Because if it gets sent into a battery it can be deployed STRATEGICALLY.

    It's more that your biggest points of energy harvest occur in your biggest breaking zones. For example turn 1 at Monza. You probably don't want that injected back immediately as you get around the second part of turn 1, but more likely down to Ascari or in/out of Parabollica.

    The whole thing has become farcical now though. They preach sustainability and COST CAP, but have jets fly over at every race. The irony of these huge cars is that they're as fast as they've ever been now. It was 2021 for that, but this year they're starting to pull ahead now most are coming to terms with the newest regulations.

    If you assume the rear wings both start at the same point, Hamiltons first title winning car would stop before you've even reached the front tyres of this generation. It also really doesn't help that Liberty Media seem to want us going to desirable locations, rather than good race circuits. So the two problems are combining into one bigger one.
    For example, we keep wiping Turkey from the calendar, but it always proved good entertainment, but we MUST go to Miami and Vegas.

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    Looking at both Saudi and Australia, the cars seem to have a good 0.6-0.8s on last year. That's a massive jump.

    I know Brawn has retired now but when he was in charge of bringing in these new regulations, he said they wouldn't be scared to alter them pretty drastically if it became evident engineers were finding loopholes and generating large amounts of dirty air again. Erm.

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    Like all the other times they've said the same it was, of course, a lie. It's beneficial to the manufacturers (who the rules are really for) to have stability so even the 'broad sweeping changes' have been fairly tame.

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    There's a guy in F3 called Noel Leon who is to my knowledge the only palindromic racing driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clunge View Post
    Forgive me if I'm being daft, but why can't the power generated by the energy recovery be directly injected/blended into the power provided by the engine therefore eliminating (or severely reducing) the need for batteries? It'd also level the playing field a bit in so much of not having stupid attacking and defensive battery modes.
    Because the energy comes in while braking. Not much use for extra engine power then.

    They could use a flywheel to store the energy, which they did in the past, if I remember correctly. That would be smaller and would have to be deployed in a more immediate manner.

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    Or they could use a V8/V10 with clean fuel, but no, not 'relevant' to the industry.

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    Even dirty fuel would be fine. This whole pretending to care about the environment is unnecessary. What is the overlap between environmentalist and motorsport fans?

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    F1 has no interest in Motorsport fans.

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    Exactly, the hybrids are only there because the manufacturers insisted on it. It will never happen but I would prefer a horse power ceiling and let them make whatever engine they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    What is the overlap between environmentalist and motorsport fans?
    I think it's just this guy.


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    Indycar have had a strange weekend (Grosjean out turn one so there is at least some consistency), a non-championship round at somewhere called 'Thermal' which is some rich knobheads glorified go kart track and the format is ten lap sprints after which a portion of the field is knocked out until you get a six car shootout (not literal unfortunately). Winner gets half a million quid, couldn't get more Mickey Mouse if you held it on Space Mountain.

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    What the fuck.

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    It was not thought out well. The final BIG MONEY SHOOTOUT was split into two ten lap stints between which you could refuel but not change tires, so the first stint was a farce with half the field lapping 10 seconds slower in order to preserve tires for the second part.

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    Tell you what, the more I watch the Alonso-Russell incident, the more I think Alonso is lucky not to get a race ban or something similar. The fact that he changed his story from 'problem with the pedal' to 'tactical decision' shows that it was intentional. The fear in Russell's voice when he skids back onto the track is pretty intense.


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    Didn't the telemetry say something like Alonso lifted off the accelerator around 100m earlier than he normally did? Scandalous behaviour.

    Also credit to Lance Stroll who I think was first on the scene and had a few seconds to react to the Merc in the middle of the road. Could have been a horrifying crash.

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    He has his engineer to thank for that as he didn’t slow down enough initially until said engineer started screaming

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    "trouble on the throttle"



    He's just a hardwired cheating bastard. The closing speed was crazy.

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    Yeah the nature of what he did says to me 20 second penalty isn't enough here. Lance naturally gravitates towards the walls so a car in the center of the track would be in no danger.

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