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    AJ Styles was on the books by the time WCW closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Tank Abbott was in WCW?!?!?

    I really liked him in the early UFC events.
    Get yourself on YouTube and find the video where he pulls a knife on Big Al for a shoot.

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    That 8 man scramble match could have an entire episode of botchamania to itself
    I'm a twit

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    Wrestler of the year. Hater of the year. Heel of the year. Social media extraordinaire of the year

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    Broo McIntyre

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Welcome to AEW. Now there's no Punk and MJF, it's just indie wrestling with a big budget.
    Having just seen the Rollins promo. I'll take Darby Allin swanton bombing a pile of bricks for a minor pop over 'Diarrhea Dwayne' all day.

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    You’re dissing Rollins to the wrong guy brother

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    WWE giving away one of the greatest matches in history for free on YouTube. That crowd manipulation.


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    Cornette getting mad at Darby Allin for performing a stunt correctly while he can't walk because he dropped himself off a ladder like a fucking dingus. Perfect.

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    What? Getting up and walking away isn't in any way a justification of what you just did. It was absolutely moronic and plenty of folk a lot "friendlier" to the AEW core have said as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    What? Getting up and walking away isn't in any way a justification of what you just did. It was absolutely moronic and plenty of folk a lot "friendlier" to the AEW core have said as much.

    Darby Allin is pretty much a professional stunt man. They also rehearsed the move, made sure if it did go wrong doctors were on hand and planned a different finish if anything happened.

    Meanwhile Cornette:

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    They also rehearsed the move, made sure if it did go wrong doctors were on hand and planned a different finish if anything happened.
    Do you not realise how ridiculous that sounds? I know you're resistant to any AEW criticism but come on, have a think. Replace AEW with WWE then replace Darby Allin with Santos Escobar or whatever, then form a new opinion.

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    And Cornette doing his knee on the scaffold isn't quite the gotcha you think it is when you've got Adam Cole derailing six months of booking by carelessly jumping off the ramp on a run in.

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    1) It's funny to have to be the AEW guy here because I'm the one in my friend group that gets called the AEW hater.
    2) If you replace the person with someone less talented/willing it changes things. There are such things as professional stunt men.
    3) Adam Cole sucks, has always been terrible and is up there with Gargano in over-rated talent purely because WWE destroyed the business to monopolise it.
    4) The only reason that Devil nonsense was allowed to carry on so long is because Tony is as big a Black and Gold NXT guy as Mahow and co.

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    I’m trying to get to the fundamental flaw in our thinking and I’m starting to land on this. I like watching pro wrestling. The stuff outside of it can either decrease my interest or elevate it but my enjoyment is based on what happens inside it.

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    1) That's a hell of a rabbit hole your mates are down.
    2) It doesn't change anything in my opinion. I think Darby is really good so I'd rather one of AEW's better wrestlers didn't take himself out permanently with some dumb shit. Even with the best of them, the law of averages comes into play eventually.
    3) Glad we agree.
    4) Ditto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    1) That's a hell of a rabbit hole your mates are down.
    It's the advantage of knowing WWE was largely terrible since 2001. As a massive CM Punk hater, his fall was so satisfying to watch the realisation that hes just a prick that cant even wrestle without something exploding

    on 2) As I said above, he was given a week off and did a 40 foot ramp on a trycicle on fire and next month he's climbing everest. If he wasn't wrestling he'd be doing something else dumb so why care?

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    Is Darby Allin not just Jeff Hardy but for 2024?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    Is Darby Allin not just Jeff Hardy but for 2024?
    Darby turns up sober.

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    Yeah, I'm sure he won't get hooked on painkillers.

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    Wrestling is a carny industry for weirdos. I'm not sure why I should boo a guy for possibly doing something that Kurt Angle and Stone Cold did years from now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    It's the advantage of knowing WWE was largely terrible since 2001.
    You've just encapsulated the problem in a nutshell. You don't have to be down the AEW rabbit hole to recognise something like this. The AEW diehards have convinced themselves it's an us vs. them thing. Anyone daring to criticise AEW must be a WWE shill. Tribalism nonsense. You say you're labelled the AEW hater in your group but really you just recognised stuff like the Devil for what it is. If your mates were rational they'd agree, but the rabbit hole has provided a huge set of blinkers.

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    No but see there’s the issue with also your side here. Every AEW match on a random Wednesday is better than 99% of WWE matches. Because the guy in charge likes wrestling. Outside of it I have issues. But that’s exactly why I’m not going to cry about Darby Allin doing a cool spot. The week to week wrestling is very high tier so the PPVs have to be better than that. Meanwhile WWE spend as much time as they can not actually wrestling. I want to watch cool shit once a week. Not Eastenders with topless buff men.

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    I'll take your point that AEW TV matches are usually better than WWE TV matches. WWE formula is crap, with the matches having the least focus on the show (ten minute entrances, then a commercial break as soon as the match starts). Commercial breaks destroy AEW too but at least they break the mould and even have at least one match a week I can get on baord with. They're not better 99% of the time though, because flips and no-sells aren't good wrestling in my book.

    This week is a bit of an oddity too. Raw was unusually decent in the ring (Gunther match, Judgment Day tag) and Dynamite's matches last night looked like a car wreck (I like Ospreay but I'm not wasting my time on his match with Fletcher because I know exactly what it would have descended into), with the highlights seemingly an opening promo, Bucks/Okada angle, Danielson/Ospreay face off. Classic WWE actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    ICommercial breaks destroy AEW too but at least they break the mould and even have at least one match a week I can get on baord.
    I’ve been railing against this from the beginning. Absolutely infuriating. Is bad producing.

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    Also at the end of the day shit like this makes me laugh because I know the person in charge is a slightly autistic amateur weirdo and not a psychopath who shits on women and covers up murders in his spare time. It's easier to enjoy in that sense.


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    Mate, go join an AEW forum you fucking flange

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Also at the end of the day shit like this makes me laugh because I know the person in charge is a slightly autistic amateur weirdo
    That's why the e-fed crew call AEW "we" isn't it, because they think Tony is making all their forum booking become reality. The problem is, a lot of it is shit and that's why they're holed up in basements and not out there making bank. Tony would last two minutes if he tried to run an actual wrestling company rather than just booking dream matches with dad's inheritance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    That's why the e-fed crew call AEW "we" isn't it, because they think Tony is making all their forum booking become reality. The problem is, a lot of it is shit and that's why they're holed up in basements and not out there making bank. Tony would last two minutes if he tried to run an actual wrestling company rather than just booking dream matches with dad's inheritance.
    Look, you can accuse Vince McMahon of covering up murders, sex trafficking, rape, and various other misdemeanours but you can never accuse him of *checks notes* using his fathers money to buy up other territories....

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    Also as a nice cherry on top for the whole discussion, it seems that Darby turned up on AEW last night and said 'I'm off to climb Everest, I might die so cya later'

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Look, you can accuse Vince McMahon of covering up murders, sex trafficking, rape, and various other misdemeanours but you can never accuse him of *checks notes* using his fathers money to buy up other territories....
    Why do you keep circling back to Vince? Just because I criticise AEW, doesn't mean I think WWE/Vince can do no wrong. Like everything these days, you're seemingly expected to pick a side in every discussion and I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Why do you keep circling back to Vince? Just because I criticise AEW, doesn't mean I think WWE/Vince can do no wrong. Like everything these days, you're seemingly expected to pick a side in every discussion and I don't get it.
    Only happens to you I swear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    Mate, go join an AEW forum you fucking flange
    I just don't see how where the money comes from matters.

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    Bossman is meant to catch Cornette there right?

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    Definitely. But Darby Allin would have bounced back up onto the scaffold.

    Darby > Cornette

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    Is he actually climbing Everest for real and it's not just a story to be off TV a little bit to recover from getting a battering? He's one of those that does so much mad stuff he'll somehow die of natural causes in his sleep age 100.

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    I feel dirty for laughing at Dave Meltzer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post




    I feel dirty for laughing at Dave Meltzer


    Tweet not Twitter tags, mongo.

    And that is brilliant.

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    Sasha Banks openly admitting she will go back to WWE one day is hilarious. Getting that bag off Tony and fucking back off home.

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    This WM build is getting really, really good. The production levels are insane since TKO took over from Kevin Dunn.

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    Rick being completely out of breath just cutting Cody off is lol.

    Interesting they still have the bloodline presenting the united front but the Rick still as a separate thing.

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    Makes sense if Rick's just going to bounce after Wrestlemania.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    This WM build is getting really, really good. The production levels are insane since TKO took over from Kevin Dunn.
    Only going to get better with Netflix.

    Rhodes winning is going to hit like crack

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    What about when Roman wins so we can do Roman v Rick at Summerslam instead?

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    I could be wrong but I swear they said Rhodes would never be able to go for a title again if he loses and that’s never gonna happen

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    Has he really done that again?
    I'm a twit

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    I might have picked it up wrong but Rick was going on about how he’s a director of the company and that he won’t allow Rhodes anymore chances if he fails at Wrestlemania

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    Vince RickMahon.

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    Wasn't it a shot specifically against Roman they said Cody wouldn't get again?

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    The number one rule in wrestling is that if a babyface is going to win the title he will say it in no uncertain terms (“I will win” / “I promise you [the fans] that I will be champion”). They never say it and then lose. Cody never said it last year and I don’t think he has up to now. I’m waiting for it and until he does I’m not 100% convinced he will win the title.

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