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Thread: February Football: In time for Wolves vs. United

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    We'll just not talk about the obvious 2nd yellow card for Gabriel though.
    Good man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    We'll just not talk about the obvious 2nd yellow card for Gabriel though.
    Might’ve raised your xg to 0.2.

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    Poor day at the office, lol at these useless 4-6-0 wankers getting hyped.

    Results are irrelevant anyway, we got 15 mins of Thiago art so the world is a better place.

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    A few too many absentees today. Looked toothless in the first half with no Nunez, Salah, Szobo and a clearly unfit Trent. First 15 mins of the second half was a lot better, but then it reverted to being ploddy and slow with no real thought.

    A shame, but our first defeat of the season coming in February isn't too bad.

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    2 defeats by February and City still have the title in their hands already.

    Hilarious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post

    Hilarious
    We talking Chelsea?

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    Liverpool obviously viewed the halftime statement that they couldn't play any worse in the second half as a challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    We talking Chelsea?

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    and here was me. Tipping Wolves for relegation. Gary O'Neil. Legend. Despite the delfected goals. Wolves were superb.

    Graham Potter needs an apology. Chelsea are a mess.

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    I remember listening to the pre-season Football Weekly preview podcast and the whole row of journos were predicting us between 3rd and 6th, absolutely mental. My prediction of 16th was maybe a bit low but I had much better logic going. I think maybe we've just been a top team for long enough that people can't get their heads around the fact that our squad is complete gunk.

    I think there was also a collective thrill at how badly Lampard did in the 12 games or whatever it was he had at the end of last season, and therefore a willingness to pin our shitness on him rather than the fact that we just have bad players who aren't going to do well enough under any manager to attain top six football.
    Last edited by Jimmy Floyd; 04-02-2024 at 08:41 PM.

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    Considering 99% of 'football journalism' is just 'whatever happenned last week will happen next week' it's surprising how little them being pitiful for 2 years during which they were bought by an anthomorphised dunning kruger effect got factored into those predictions.

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    Transfers trump all in pre-season assessments.

    Remember when Lukaku was the missing piece of the puzzle? Twice.

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    https://understat.com/league/EPL

    Chelsea 6th where it matters.

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    Doesn't the fact that stats say the game was a 2.5 goal draw in a game they got absolutely hammered slightly underrmine this continued farce?

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    That's just strokes gained tee to green, doesn't win you any prizes. Football seasons are far too short for it to be all that significant.

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    Also those stats say we're winning the league meanwhile Taz spends his days calling everyone in the team frauds. So do stats lie or are they the truth?

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    In other news they've announced the stadiums for the American World Cup and it's madness. The travelling involved is criss-crossing the continent. You could win a round of 16 game in Canada, get on a 7 hour flight to Dallas and play a quarter final 2 days later.

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    Yeah, but think about the brand experience.

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    Lewis will be boycotting it due to the Bud Light sponsorship.

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    The final will just be fittest teams. Sweden v Norway or something.

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    Never heard his voice before lol.

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    All these journo's will bang on about how they know foreign football and how it's a great product. 'Oh don't think he's shit because hes in Serie A'

    Meanwhile the derby d'italia description could have been in the 2004 edition of Premier Years.


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    It's English football from the 90s. Arnautovic is Brian McClair and Szczesny is Ludek Miklosko. Meanwhile all the good City and Liverpool players are spread across Milan, Inter, Juventus and Lazio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post


    Never heard his voice before lol.
    He sounds like he should be the antagonist in a season of 24

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    The lady who broke the news on the random Potter sacking is saying Poch is already gone @Waffdon

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    Could well be a big mistake. It's possible there are one or two better managers than Pochettino available on the market currently (though I don't know who they are), but there are definitely thousands of managers worse than him.

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    At least Waff will be happy for a few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    The lady who broke the news on the random Potter sacking is saying Poch is already gone @Waffdon
    Who?

    I think if he was gone he’d be announced as such already like both Tuchel and Potter. Athletic reporting he’s got his press conference tomorrow as usual

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    At least Waff will be happy for a few weeks.
    I just want to watch Fernandez and Caicedo next to each other. (Like Jorginho and Rice yesterday, even Arteta finally learned his lesson)

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    Seems to be a bullshitter on the surface but apparently she of all people broke the Potter story, so she might be pumping someone in the building.

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    De Zerbi packing his bags as we speak.

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    He has had the air of a man who might be on his way going off some of the things he's been saying in his press duties recently, although you'd think Chelsea might know better by now, as should any self-respecting manager.

    I half wonder whether big brain Boehly might have discovered an unfortunate football finance fly in the ointment of his long term contract scams. Now, I don't really know how any of it works, but going off the basic principle that you book in the cost of a transfer over the course of a contract, if that is a very long contract then it happily brings down the yearly cost, all very big brain. But what happens when the hugely expensive player turns out to be shite, are you limited in how you can dispose of them as by selling them do you crystallise any player trading loss in the year it happens? For example, Mudryk cost £90m, fuck oh my days. That costs Chelsea's books say around £10m a season for his mental contract, assuming it's 8 or 9 years or whatever it is they thought was a good idea. Now, if some frankly insane counter-party wanted to sign Mudryk, what are they likely to be paying for him? Half that, if you're lucky? If Chelsea take that, do they have to instantly book whatever loss they have made without being able to now amortise if over the course of a contract? Does selling him for £50m this summer cost them £30-40m in accountancy losses, whereas holding him only costs £10m or whatever? Are they essentially trapped into holding these players forever in the hope that they come good at some point or have I misunderstood how it all works?

    Cucurella 60m/6 year contract, Wesley Fofana seventy-fucking-five millions pounds and a seven year contract, dear god in heaven.

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    Boehly isn’t in charge.

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    Does the sold player not stay on the books as a dead horse at £net-loss per year until the original end date? It sounds like that would have to be the case for the thing to make sense. An alternative explanation would be that it in fact does not make sense.

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    And Mudryk didn’t cost £90m. It’s £65m (still huge) and instalments are only paid if they win the league and Champions League (which would mean success so who cares).

    Fofana is a don. Hopefully his new knee means less injuries when he’s back. Wishful thinking.

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    Would need to sell Mudryk for £51m this year to book a profit on the accounts. £50m for Fofana. £37.33m for Cucurella.

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    I just took the number off the top of google.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I just took the number off the top of google.
    Don't question a lifelong fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    Boehly isn’t in charge.
    Doesn't matter what you call them, it's US private equity goons and 'Boehly' is as good a metonym as any.

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    I love that Waff has an encyclopedic knowledge of Chelsea's accounts.

    Not sure I've known how a fee is broken down since maybe Coutinho, and I never really understood that one anyway.

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    RL will show you who to listen to and not.

    Iranian mobster - Behdad Eghbali - is the guy running Chelsea and making all the decisions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    Would need to sell Mudryk for £51m this year to book a profit on the accounts. £50m for Fofana. £37.33m for Cucurella.
    Well that shows the problem perfectly. Maybe if they tried to sell Mudryk they'd get £20 million based on what he looks like he is. Fofana has been out for nearly 2.5 seasons now so you can write him off as worthless until he plays for a solid 12-18 months if they wanted to sell him and you'd probably get about the same for Cucurella as you would for Mudryk so out of those three 'assets' the one it currently looks like they could carry the smallest loss on is Cucurella. Which means you are stuck playing him in Mudryk or at least having him round the squad being a drain on wages because a lot of the smaller clubs can't afford them.

    What a business model.

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    Nail Warnock, famous Cornwall resident, taking the Aberdeen job is a bit mad. He just can't help himself.

    Warnock has one session with the players on Monday before the game at Ibrox and joked that "if we get battered on Tuesday it is Peter's fault, and if we do well I've been influential".

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    The briefs are out. He’s staying.

    The end to this season might somehow eclipse last year under Lampard. Could be special.

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    Apparently he is staying because under FFP they cannot afford to sack him.

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    Sacked on July 1st then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    Apparently he is staying because under FFP they cannot afford to sack him.
    Outstanding if true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    Apparently he is staying because under FFP they cannot afford to sack him.

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    I thought everyone had priced in that we're absolutely turbo-fucked and probably won't make the CL again. Maybe not. Never mind, I might be able to get home tickets again if we go down to League One in a decade's time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    Apparently he is staying because under FFP they cannot afford to sack him.
    Waff will be in shortly to tell you why this simply cannot be true and that Chelsea are simply the greatest at FFP.

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