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    The Tesco thing is irksome because they put a 25% markup on everything (it’s not a saving) if you don’t want to be part of their club. Thankfully the regulators are putting a stop to that bollocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    I'm not claiming a big conspiracy, I just don't see why it's a massive no no to let Tesco know your address but not a bother every state body/financial institution/insurance company/etc know everything you buy and when you buy it.
    What are they going to do, laugh at me? Sorry lads, I just thought the honey mustard with the salmon might work, I won't do it again.

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    Why was everyone pissing their pants about Tesco? Surely the trick with 'loyalty cards' is to have them all and rinse them of their 'offers'? If they end up with a probably confusing picture of your spending then they're welcome to it. I know Which get a bit sniffy about the true value of the offers, but I find they are generally as good as you can find anywhere else in the market if you know what you are doing/what the basic cost of whatever is across the board.

    I support my local cash only kebab shop as they seem a decent bunch.

    The barber has a ridiculously small dog called Jurgen as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    The Tesco thing is irksome because they put a 25% markup on everything (it’s not a saving) if you don’t want to be part of their club. Thankfully the regulators are putting a stop to that bollocks.
    But what's the problem with being part of their club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Why was everyone pissing their pants about Tesco? Surely the trick with 'loyalty cards' is to have them all and rinse them of their 'offers'? If they end up with a probably confusing picture of your spending then they're welcome to it. I know Which get a bit sniffy about the true value of the offers, but I find they are generally as good as you can find anywhere else in the market if you know what you are doing/what the basic cost of whatever is across the board.

    I support my local cash only kebab shop as they seem a decent bunch.

    The barber has a ridiculously small dog called Jurgen as well.
    Like I noted above, it’s not “offers” you get, it’s just the regular price you can find in other shops sans the loyalty card. Then the markup for non-members is so blatant that it’s basically profiteering and it’s why the regulators have actually been forced into sorting it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    But what's the problem with being part of their club?
    There isn’t. But don’t be fooled into thinking you’re getting offers. It just gives you access to the fair price. Regulators wouldn’t need to be taking action if it actually gave you better deals than the opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Like I noted above, it’s not “offers” you get, it’s just the regular price you can find in other shops sans the loyalty card. Then the markup for non-members is so blatant that it’s basically profiteering and it’s why the regulators have actually been forced into sorting it out.
    You don’t get Pringles for £1.25 anywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Like I noted above, it’s not “offers” you get, it’s just the regular price you can find in other shops sans the loyalty card. Then the markup for non-members is so blatant that it’s basically profiteering and it’s why the regulators have actually been forced into sorting it out.
    This is true as regards the mark-up prices, but much of the time the offers at least match and usually better what is available generally.

    Example in my field of purchasing. Sainsbury's sometimes have Herta Hotdogs on their nectar offer for between 1.60 and 1.90. General price in the market for those is 2.70ish, although I think ASDA do them for £2 s standard. At the moment Waitrose have them on offer at £2. Lidl have their own for £2. When they are on nectar for 1.60/1.80 they are absolutely a good deal, so if you know what you are looking for it's not always a case of being duped by an inflated price. You just need to know the cost of things. You can always say cheaper options are out these but then you aren't comparing apples.

    I always thought someone should have some sort of app where you could put your shopping list in and you could see all the best prices and I see AI might have taken up the challenge.

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    Tesco also did a solid clubcard deal on Steady Rolling Man by Vocation once. Well worth being a data slave.

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    24 coke for €8. For that they can set up a live stream in my living room if they want.

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    The objections I've seen (and agree with) to Clubcard prices etc is that supermarkets are the lynchpin of food supply and you shouldn't have to essentially join a members' club to access reasonable prices. Anyone should be able to walk into the shop and get the same prices.

    It's not really about data collection. If you were arsed about that, you wouldn't have a smartphone or use the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    The objections I've seen (and agree with) to Clubcard prices etc is that supermarkets are the lynchpin of food supply and you shouldn't have to essentially join a members' club to access reasonable prices. Anyone should be able to walk into the shop and get the same prices.

    It's not really about data collection. If you were arsed about that, you wouldn't have a smartphone or use the internet.
    Agree this is a legit concern.

    Was in the co-op the other day and some of the stuff I was getting appeared to be discounted and then I thought to myself that I bet these were member prices and I cursed the notion. Self-checkout put them through at those prices though so either they weren't, or their systems are shit, knowing the co-op probably the latter.

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    The Co-op, which is the most disgustingly priced supermarket going, definitely have some member's scheme.

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    I'm not sure Waitrose have any discounts. Head there for price equality.

    A guy in our warehouse, who can't exactly be on big dough, was showing me his nectar and he has about a bajillion points and gets free stuff all the time. Shops for him, his wife and two kids once a week and this is apparently the path to nectar VIP territory.

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    They do.

    They're also surprisingly competitive on fancier things [like big blocks of Parmesan for example].

    The basic problem is you have to go to about 4 supermarkets to win your shopping from a price optimisation perspective.

    Might soon be possible here though as there is a Waitrose and a Sainsbury's within spitting distance of each other and they're building an Aldi in between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I'm not sure Waitrose have any discounts. Head there for price equality.

    A guy in our warehouse, who can't exactly be on big dough, was showing me his nectar and he has about a bajillion points and gets free stuff all the time. Shops for him, his wife and two kids once a week and this is apparently the path to nectar VIP territory.
    Daft to leave points on there. There’s quite a large community of bad internet people who check nectar card numbers for points and sell them.
    I'm a twit

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    I love carrying cash. Much better than being tracked everywhere you go. Seems harmless now, but a traveler with a slightly disformed back I met in Brazil some years ago warned of what was coming down the line and it's not a nice picture.

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    There is a legit reason to prefer cash as a small business. Costs roughly £200 a year per POS device, and then 1.5-3.5% per transaction.

    Cash handling costs are increasing, but it’s nowhere near the same.

    That said, I’d think the majority of business are either raving libertarians, dodging tax, paying folks without a right to work in the UK, or partaking in money laundering for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop View Post
    I love carrying cash. Much better than being tracked everywhere you go. Seems harmless now, but a traveler with a slightly disformed back I met in Brazil some years ago warned of what was coming down the line and it's not a nice picture.
    What did they think was coming? I mean, the only worry I'd have is if Britain is suddenly run by people with differing values to what's within the acceptable boundaries of society now, in which case I could be slightly fucked, but I suspect I'll be dead before that happens so I'm willing to take the risk not to have to piss about with cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    What did they think was coming? I mean, the only worry I'd have is if Britain is suddenly run by people with differing values to what's within the acceptable boundaries of society now, in which case I could be slightly fucked, but I suspect I'll be dead before that happens so I'm willing to take the risk not to have to piss about with cash.
    I seem to recall it involved a man by the name of John Titor. Britain, unfortunately, is currently run by non British people. No matter what the passports say.

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    That's a blast from the past right there. The standard of conspiracy theories these days is so piss poor. They make the Duke of York ordering a hit on Diana look like an early Tarantino script.

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    Well some 'conspiracy theories' have turned out to be true recently. Masks being completely useless, certain vaccines being more harmful than good. I think those of us who chose not to have the jab and chose not to wear a face nappy haven't yet had an apology for appalling way we were treated. It's all been brushed under the carpet. A few years ago people were being arrested for walking their dogs, among other things. Never forget. It just goes to show how easy it would be to completely subjugate an entire population. People are idiots, generally.

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    And yet it was all done without access to a list of people's credit card funded porn subscriptions.

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    Indeed. Hopefully the mainstream media will continue to diminish to the point where people can no longer be hiveminded by propaganda. But I doubt it.

    I don't know if you've ever heard of Operation Mockingbird? But I guarantee that still goes on.

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    Mainstream media is at it's weakest and people are more hiveminded that ever thanks to Social Media, algorithms and echo chambers.

    Or, erm, micro-hiveminded, I guess. People just pick a tribe and spew its ridiculousness in all directions. Be it Feminists, Alpha's/Incels, LGBTQ, Vegan, Carnivore, religious, atheist, etc.

    It was far more simple.when it was just left vs right.
    Last edited by Spikey M; 04-01-2024 at 07:51 AM.

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    John Titor.



    Are we still saying 'he' might have been right with his civil war in America thing, a bit like how those people who predict economic collapse every year eventually say I told you so when one comes along?

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    I was well behind John Titor being real circa 2003.

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    The yanks are still fighting the first civil war, the next one's not even a glimmer in the marksman's eye. Sorry JT.

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