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[Spikey M]

So Mahow was just pretending to turn his life around all along?

[Shindig]

I thought he was 36?

That picture is from 2014.

[Don]

Fantastic scenes to wake up to as Hamas kill and capture a small number of Israelis Israelis find themselves distanced from home and unable to locate a pulse.

(https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-medics-report)

Palestine possibly to get absolutely flattened in the coming days and kick up a tasty global drama but fucking inject some of the footage coming out rn

[Lewis]

If Israel ever needed an excuse to just push all of the Gaza Strip into the sea/Egypt they might have just got it. The muggery is off the scale.

[Spikey M]

Yeah, that seems like poor judgement.

[randomlegend]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...tors-hktnlxkrq

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Staff without medical training who fill gaps in the NHS workforce must tell patients they are “not a doctor” when introducing themselves, under new guidance.

The advice has been issued to “physician associates” (PAs), a type of clinical role that requires less training than doctors receive, amid a row over their use in the NHS.

PAs complete a two-year postgraduate qualification, but no medical degree, and can diagnose and treat patients. They can work in A&E or GP surgeries.

NHS England has set out plans to expand the number of PAs to deal with staff shortages, with a workforce of 10,000 PAs wanted over the next decade. The plan has been met with opposition from doctors’ leaders, who say the growing use of PAs instead of fully qualified doctors is leading to missed diagnoses and deaths.

Guidance published on Thursday by the Faculty of Physician Associates, a part of the Royal College of Physicians, said that PAs must not mislead patients into thinking they are doctors.

The instructions tell PAs to “correct patients and staff if they refer to them as a registered doctor, nurse or other professionally protected role”.

It recommends an introduction of: “Hello, my name is [Forename Surname] and I am one of the physician associates working in [specialty]. Physician associates are commonly referred to as PAs. I work alongside the doctors, but I am not a doctor.”

The guidance continues: “PAs must not use the prefix ‘Dr’ or title ‘doctor’ in any clinical environment or interaction with patients. This could be confusing or misleading for a patient. ‘Doctor of medicine’ is a legally protected title and the public would reasonably assume that anyone introducing themselves as ‘doctor’ in a healthcare setting meant a ‘doctor of medicine’.” The advice says those with a PhD should not use the title Dr in any medical setting.

Concerns over the use of PAs were heightened by the death of Emily Chesterton, a 30-year-old actress from Salford, who died of a blood clot after a PA working in her GP surgery misdiagnosed it as a sprain. Her family said she had no idea she had not seen a doctor.

This week hundreds of doctors signed an open letter to the leadership of the Royal College of Physicians, urging them to take a stand against the introduction of PAs.

The open letter, signed by 46 fellows of the college and 194 other doctors, said: “There have been several high-profile incidents in which serious illness was missed by [an associate] when undertaking a role that would normally be filled by a doctor. In some cases, avoidable deaths have resulted.

“Given that some of these conditions required more advanced training than the [associate] had received, the implication is that rare avoidable deaths are a price society must pay for the replacement of medical staff with non-medical staff. We believe this trade-off must be debated widely, not just by doctors but also by the lay public.”

The letter supports calls by the British Medical Association for the roles to be renamed “physician assistant” and “anaesthetic assistant” to better reflect their roles.

Anaesthetists have also forced an emergency meeting of their royal college this month in an attempt to halt the increased use of anaesthesia associates, a similar role also due for expansion.

Insane this guidance even needs to be put out. Thoroughly enjoying their seethe at not being allowed to mislead patients into thinking they are doctors any more. Tide is finally turning.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I see Indian ethno-nationalist twitter is very much on the side of the Israelis, so you can tick that one off for the world war. Hamas don't have many friends, do they? Morons.

[Don]

I like the idea Mossad just let this happen.

[Don]

Motorised hand gliders dropping Hamas heroes, settlers scurrying in airports like the dirty rats they are, Zelenskyy's statement, Iran's celebrations, keep it coming

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Some of the twitter takes I've seen have been horrific. The Novara media lot are outdoing even their own appallingly low standards.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Sadly this marks the end of the road for that lot after a few unexpected years in the sun. Arab London is a tougher problem to solve.

[Lewis]

The various 'Londoners' celebrating tops Multiculturalism is a Roaring Success Week off nicely. Big Suella Braverman in the mud.

[Don]

Just to clarify, when man said 'in the sun' above, he means literally.

[Lewis]

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Washed down with a refreshing Supermalt no doubt.

[Spikey M]

This is one of those lovely occasions where everyone involved is a cunt. Israel had it coming, but kidnapping women and children is the scummiest way possible to go about it. So, yeah. Fuck 'em all, really.

[Don]

Oh noes, the Palestinians are being scummy and letting go of the rules of class.

I do hope I meet Zinchenko one day. I reckon you could make the little cunt cry with words.

[Spikey M]

I've never personally found myself siding with people that kidnap women and children, but if you do you should probably start having a little think about where you've gone wrong in life.

[Kikó]

The whataboutism on this is fun (on Twitter). As if the IDF murdering civilians makes Hamas doing it acceptable.

[Yevrah]

What's the TLDR with this? I've somehow managed to make it this far through life without really understanding what caused it all and every time I've tried to ask someone in the real World it's clear as day I'm getting a one sided account of events. Which is weird in itself, as that doesn't seem to happen with other ongoing conflicts thousands of miles away.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The Romans had a strop in 70 AD and sacked Jerusalem, sending the people of Judea into exile. About 600 years later the Prophet Mohammad, paedo harem in tow, kicked off Arab expanionism across the region. The Arabs spent the next 1,200 years raping women, discovering algebra and not eating pork, while the Jews in exile spent the same period being massacred, making money and also not eating pork. Fast forward to 1900 or so and the Zionist movement kicks off whereby Jews return to what they see as their Judean homeland. 40 years later the Nazis kill 6 million of them and international consensus decides that a Jewish state must be formed. This obviously winds up the incumbent Arab population no end. Immediately upon Israel's creation all the surrounding Arabs declare war to end the state, but Israel wins. Egypt, Syria and others keep declaring war for the next 30 or so years and lose every time. An impossible fudge of a situation forms with the West Bank and Gaza being notionally Palestinian (but with the Israelis sticking their boot in on the regular) and the rest of the country is Israel. Each side is run by extremist headbangers more or less in perpetuity and neither is remotely interested in reconciliation except for a few months in the 90s.

[Spikey M]

There's no reconciliation possible when both sides believe their ownership of the land is God given. And as always, pretty much anything is permissable when you believe you are doing gods work. This only ends in genocide.

[Lewis]

The explanation of Iran encouraging it to drive a wedge between Israel and the Arab countries makes sense from their perspective, but why would these rubes go along with it when, at best, they're going to end up with a North Korea-style border around them? Maybe they're just mongs.

[Boydy]

The Romans had a strop in 70 AD and sacked Jerusalem, sending the people of Judea into exile. About 600 years later the Prophet Mohammad, paedo harem in tow, kicked off Arab expanionism across the region. The Arabs spent the next 1,200 years raping women, discovering algebra and not eating pork, while the Jews in exile spent the same period being massacred, making money and also not eating pork. Fast forward to 1900 or so and the Zionist movement kicks off whereby Jews return to what they see as their Judean homeland. 40 years later the Nazis kill 6 million of them and international consensus decides that a Jewish state must be formed. This obviously winds up the incumbent Arab population no end. Immediately upon Israel's creation all the surrounding Arabs declare war to end the state, but Israel wins. Egypt, Syria and others keep declaring war for the next 30 or so years and lose every time. An impossible fudge of a situation forms with the West Bank and Gaza being notionally Palestinian (but with the Israelis sticking their boot in on the regular) and the rest of the country is Israel. Each side is run by extremist headbangers more or less in perpetuity and neither is remotely interested in reconciliation except for a few months in the 90s.

Not an awful explanation but you're kind of leaving out the part where the Israelis took the land/homes from the Palestinians and kicked them out.

[Don]

It's a slight oversight, along with pouring cement into their water sources, cutting their electricity and energy, attacking their places of worship and generally treating their ever-decreasing areas of population like an open-air prison. Just an oversight.

Whilst you've all been shovelling Sheperd's Pie down you infront of Soccer Aid for Ukraine, these things have been going on at an alarming rate. The time for now criticising them for their retribution is long gone, my dears, they very much made their bed a d thought they'd get away with it. I appreciate your appetite for bloodshed and violence may be lacking or skewed by media but rest assured, objectively, these are fantastic scenes.

[mikem]

Not an awful explanation but you're kind of leaving out the part where the Israelis took the land/homes from the Palestinians and kicked them out.

And at the same time cities like Tripoli, Aleppo, and Tehran went from being 20% Jewish to roughly 0. Baghdad being the most striking - in a matter of months a city whose population was 60% Jewish had entirely new inhabitants. I doubt populations that had been stable for centuries just decided to all move because a group of Europeans suddenly showed up.

Which is the point …. How do you build trust when everyone involved has been engaging in ethnic cleansing? The IDF is an atrocity machine, the settlers are monstrous, Hamas cares more Iranian foreign policy. It’s all shit.

[Lewis]

Youth clubs.

[Don]

Ethnic cleansing of Jews in Tehran? Brother run that uneducated American propaganda in another gaff, please.

[Spikey M]

It's a slight oversight, along with pouring cement into their water sources, cutting their electricity and energy, attacking their places of worship and generally treating their ever-decreasing areas of population like an open-air prison. Just an oversight.

Whilst you've all been shovelling Sheperd's Pie down you infront of Soccer Aid for Ukraine, these things have been going on at an alarming rate. The time for now criticising them for their retribution is long gone, my dears, they very much made their bed a d thought they'd get away with it. I appreciate your appetite for bloodshed and violence may be lacking or skewed by media but rest assured, objectively, these are fantastic scenes.

I agree with 90% of what you're saying, but your conclusion that kidnapped children = fantastic scenes still marks you out as a top level cunt, I'm afraid.

Israel have done some terrible shit and you're right, it's pretty much entirely unreported in the west, but kids are not to blame for any of this. Including the Palestinian children that are going to die - in even higher numbers - in response to this.

[Lofty]

It's a slight oversight, along with pouring cement into their water sources, cutting their electricity and energy, attacking their places of worship and generally treating their ever-decreasing areas of population like an open-air prison. Just an oversight.

Whilst you've all been shovelling Sheperd's Pie down you infront of Soccer Aid for Ukraine, these things have been going on at an alarming rate. The time for now criticising them for their retribution is long gone, my dears, they very much made their bed a d thought they'd get away with it. I appreciate your appetite for bloodshed and violence may be lacking or skewed by media but rest assured, objectively, these are fantastic scenes.

If it was a lightning attack on IDF barracks maybe, machine gunning festival goers to death and raping the women not quite as heroic.

[Shindig]

Both sides have done an incredible job of dehumanising the other. Absolute barbarism.

[randomlegend]

Taz being a despicable piece of barely human filth, what a surprise.

[Lewis]

I agree with 90% of what you're saying, but your conclusion that kidnapped children = fantastic scenes still marks you out as a top level cunt, I'm afraid.

Israel have done some terrible shit and you're right, it's pretty much entirely unreported in the west, but kids are not to blame for any of this. Including the Palestinian children that are going to die - in even higher numbers - in response to this.

When Palestinian Jeff was railing against Israelis/Jews, I used to get him revved right up by innocently asking him why we never hear about any of this stuff in the Western media. He used to look at me like I was some sort of yokel.

'Man... Man... *leans right in* Who do you think owns the newspaper?'
'Oh yeah course yeah.'

[Don]

I agree with 90% of what you're saying, but your conclusion that kidnapped children = fantastic scenes still marks you out as a top level cunt, I'm afraid.

Israel have done some terrible shit and you're right, it's pretty much entirely unreported in the west, but kids are not to blame for any of this. Including the Palestinian children that are going to die - in even higher numbers - in response to this.

No man, woman or child on an individual level is actually a cunt or to blame for the wrongdoings of war. Even Bibbi who is the closest thing to the devil in the modern world or some cunt called Ariel who shoots little Palestinian children from point blank for bants are merely
misguided human beings. Don't be so sensitive to my words, I don't give a fuck about some innocent Israelis/Arabs on an individual level just as you really don't. My sentiment is aimed at the political systems behind the actions and on that level, get the popcorn and fireworks out when you see bloodshed that the dirty fucks thought was impossible. Bloodshed that strikes a massive blow at the heart of the evil system itself.

[niko_cee]

I learned today that 'showing support' for Hamas is apparently a crime, so, yeah, that's interesting.

[mikem]

Youth clubs.

I was thinking bake-sales and car washes.

But instead, it is going to be Bibi for life. All those months of protests against his attempts to change the judiciary and constitution and trying to avoid spending the rest of his life in prison …. gone. He’ll get to ram it all through and probably get to leave it all to his moron kid.

[niko_cee]

I see China are calling for a renewed focus on the two state solution.

At this point what is stopping Israel just calling time on that and punting the Palestinian peoples into the rest of the Arab world?

Quite embarrassing for the much vaunted IDF et al to have this ramshackle bunch of idiots do this to them, mind.

[mikem]

I see China are calling for a renewed focus on the two state solution.

At this point what is stopping Israel just calling time on that and punting the Palestinian peoples into the rest of the Arab world?

Quite embarrassing for the much vaunted IDF et al to have this ramshackle bunch of idiots do this to them, mind.

Not an expert by any means but hasn’t the deal always been that Jordan and Egypt are perfectly happy with and also engage in the blockade and occupation enforcement to keep it all off their shore. They have borders which could nullify anything Israel tried to do unilaterally.

Israel provides cover and they provided the diplomatic conduit to Saudi and co that Israel has used over the past couple decades. Jordan doesn’t become 1980’s Lebanon redux …. Little less clear about what else Egypt wants.

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...outhern-israel

Absolute porn.

[Ben]

The Russians are saying Ukraine armed Hamas.

[Don]

The disinformation, lies and manipulation in the media is incredible. Incredible.

Seemingly scenes are already the worst Palestine have seen and it's not even begun yet. Assume ground offensive starts in the coming days. Not sure what escalation might look like from Hamas/Hezbollah/etc but hopefully there's one more big break in this for them from somewhere before Israel complete their latest genocide attempt.

[Ben]

Incredible fire at Luton Airport. Apparently started by a Tesla car going up. Those lithium batteries are really something, eh.

EDIT: Might be Twitter bullshit re: Tesla, as some are also saying Range Rover. Either way, RIP their insurance company.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

No sprinklers in the car park, smart decision.

[niko_cee]

Car fuel can't melt steel!

[Ben]

There was bound to be many electrical vehicles in the car park. I doubt any sprinkler system is sophisticated enough to deal with that much lithium going up. You can't just douse it in CO2 because at that heat, it just splits the atoms and you end up with more oxygen.

Fire brigade have done an amazing job to get it out by sun up, really.

[Spikey M]

I fly from Stansted tomorrow. They had better not start sending a load of Luton flights that way.

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-67073418

Couldn't help but guffaw.

[Don]

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

[Ben]

The news channels in this country are ridiculous.

[Don]

Not just the channels. That baby beheading story gaining that many front page headlines whilst being from a very questionable/zionist source.