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    NERF guns are a serious act of aggression in America.

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    Wow.

    Panthers desperate for a QB.

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    They kind of had to.

    Texans, colts, raiders all ahead of them with Greg wildcard of the bears themselves and the falcons who could have decided to go. You know fine well the Seahawks would trade down too to a qb needy team.

    They’re in reset territory anyway, despite outperforming after trading away CMC. Pick 61 was from that trade anyway no? Is they’ve decided to trade their offence for 8 slots.

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    That’s one hell of a package for the potential QB to throw to nobody.

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    Rumours abound that they want to trade down now.

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    Well they probably don't mind 4 QB's, so as long as they don't drop out of the top 4 they'll be happy.

    I reckon they probably Richardson the most and he's a bit of a reach at number 1 over Stroud and Young.

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    Dolphins getting Ramsey for not much compensation.

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    I don’t understand the rams. They trade away picks for players for win now, and then they send away an all-pro first ballot HOFer most likely for what? An early ish third?

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    Ramsey wants $20m per season and the Rams are already way over the salary cap before draft
    picks sign. They shot their shot and now they need to offload some of them and as a result some teams will be able to get a bargain.

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    Rodgers to Jets.

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    Jimmy G has done the obvious and gone to mcdaniels in vegas.

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    Lamar has requested a trade

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    The ravens effectively accepted that with the tag they put on him. Two first rounders is probably about what they would’ve got anyway.

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    I think with the tag they were trying to show him that he wont get a fully guaranteed contract in the league and were hoping they could keep him for something similar to what they were offering.

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    Also, we used that tag on him after he requested a trade.

    He's only just gone public now.

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    Aye that’s what I mean - he wanted a trade. Why would they do that when they can tag him and get two 1s if he gets an offer and they don’t want to match it.

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    OBJ to the ravens is

    Be funny if Lamar left now.

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    Lamar isn't going anywhere.

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    $7 Billion in cash. What a fucking move that is.

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    Speaking of cash. Jalen Hurts agreed a new deal. 5 years for $255m of which $179m is guaranteed.

    Highest paid player in NFL history.

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    Hecking big contract.

    Lamar will be buzzing.

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    I'm not sure he will tbh.

    He wants more than Watson in guaranteed (so higher than $230m) and Hurts didn't get near that guaranteed number.

    I think if Hurts had gotten $200m+ in guarantees Lamar would be licking his lips.

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    He’s a bold man, pick 32 is what $8-9mill?

    You’d think he’d be eager to get that big money.

    Going to give him a lot of credit and assume he wants to be remembered as setting the precedent of high guarantees as a legacy. Not that he’s worried his scrambling will eventually catch up to him.

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    I think there's more to it than just the money here.
    He wants high guarantees yes, which is as may be. But I believe the 'establishment' are trying to screw him over for daring to try and do this without an agent.

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    Lamar is very overrated in my eyes but those that matter don’t think he is, so I agree this saga is heavily influenced by him not having an agent. For ability I don’t want him to get paid but for balls and ultimately a groundbreaking event, I hope he gets all the dollars.

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    A whopping guaranteed contract and then back to back ACLs would be perfect.

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    As an aside I was thinking back to Joe Burreaux’s wonder season at LSU and appreciating how lucky I was to watch so much of it. I love college football and the SEC games are on quite regularly. It just added so much interest watching this kid who was just unbelievably good lift a team that had been a sleeping giant back to the top.

    Didn’t get this from this current crop coming this year, but hopefully whoever the Texans nab at 2 develops into something better than a Matt Shaub.

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    Aaron Rodgers to the Jets is done.

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    He stays

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    It's officially official.

    Super Bowl coming this season.

    Edit: $260m with $185m guaranteed.
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    Bryce Young 1, Will Anderson 2 and CJ Stroud 3.

    That's my prediction for the draft now.

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    Texans going batshit.

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    $185m guaranteed without an agent. Good work.

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    I have no idea what's gone on yet as I went to bed rather than stay up til 5am. However there was a lot of talk that Nolan Smith was the guy for us at pick 10 with it being likely that Carter and Bijan Robinson would both be off the board by then. To get him at 30 surprises me greatly so I need to see what's gone wrong there.

    Now I guess what's happened is that Bijan the Eagles saw a severe tier drop in talent after Carter. I'm no college football guy, but the things I saw had Carter as a top 3 prospect before he had off field issues.

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    Purely off the tape Jalen Carter probably would’ve been the top player on the majority of boards. Eagles smashed it & New England deserve a mention for trading back & still getting Christian Gonzalez, who was generally considered a top 10 pick.

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    Texans move seems mad on paper, but when you zoom out they basically tanked a season to get will Anderson and CJ Stroud. Forget next year, it reverts pretty much to course but they’ve hopefully got a QB and a blue chip defender.

    Outside the top 2, and Anderson going 3 but to Arizona, I was totally wrong elsewhere bar Johnson at 21 to the chargers.

    A few surprises in there for sure and really not sure what happens with Levis now. I thought the raiders might fancy it to get a bit of garapolo insurance, so that’s where I think he falls in round 2.

    The lions leaning into who they are is pretty great. Swift and Jamyr means they might win the division. They need to sort some defensive players the rest of the way.

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    Levis should never have let people know he eats bananas whole and has mayo in his coffee.

    The serial killer vibes just don't help with draft stock.

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    Have some draft grades. I'll also throw in their spot on the media consensus big board for reference, as well as where they ended up on mine.

    Just to give you a sense of the scale, it's 1-10 where 1 is a disaster, 10 is a massive bargain & 5 is basically fine. I'll also be taking trades into account, which will impact some of the scores.

    Carolina - #1 Bryce Young 6/10
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    Houston - #2 CJ Stroud 6/10 & #3 Will Anderson Jr 5/10
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    Indianapolis - #4 Anthony Richardson 6/10
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    Seattle - #5 Devon Witherspoon 6/10 & #20 Jaxson Smith-Njigba 8/10
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    Arizona - #6 Paris Johnson Jr 9/10
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    Las Vegas - #7 Tyree Wilson 6/10
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    Atlanta - #8 Bijan Robinson 6/10
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    Philadelphia - #9 Jalen Carter 8/10 & #31 Nolan Smith 9/10
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    Chicago - #10 Darnell Wright - 5/10
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    Tennessee - #11 Peter Skoronski 7/10
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    Detroit - #12 Jahmyr Gibbs 4/10 & #18 Jack Campbell 4/10
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    Green Bay - #13 Lukas Van Ness 6/10
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    Pittsburgh - #14 Broderick Jones 7/10
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    New York Jets - #15 Will McDonald 4/10
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    Washington - #16 Emmanuel Forbes 4/10
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    This is taking ages & I'm off out shortly so I'll do the rest later.

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    She's studied Carter quite extensively it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foe View Post
    Swift and Jamyr means they might win the division. They need to sort some defensive players the rest of the way.
    The addition of Montgomery before they've drafted in Jahmyr Gibbs at 12 said to me Swift might have been in trouble, but they aren't going to spend that draft capital on a RB2/3.

    I feel like by this time tomorrow Swift has a new home. A shame but given they seemed to decide midway through last year that he can only play on 10 or so touches, it makes sense.

    There's a few fair players who you look at and think they're probably going to move tonight. Ekeler could be another in the same boat.

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    Yeah I’d forgotten Montgomery.

    Does seem like a trade is likely then, a shame as they were starting to get good things out of him.

    Was really hoping KC would take jalin Hyatt at 31.

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    @Dan my cousin is also moving on, heading from A&M to bama.

    Not sure I can bring myself to become a bama supporter.

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    I've just seen we only gave up a 4th rounder to get Carter so that's great business.

    From an Eagles point of view there's not a lot else left to do really. We pick almost last in the 2nd and then early in the 3rd so there's still good value to be had, but it will likely be hard to get up from there. Even with Howie on his bullshit.

    I'd like to see an upside RB or WR added in, personally. Or if someone like a Swift/Ekeler who wont need to play every snap for us would come in. Our RB room is crowded right now but if you look at it, we have Gainwell who will be there beyond this year, but the others I'm not sure.

    Boston Scott is the Giant killer and not much else really beyond a reserve back. Sermon looks cut/practice squad material and Penny is only on a $1.3m deal for the year.

    The WR room is good, though some competition for WR3 would be nice. Quez "Fast Batman" Watkins is a great guy to have, but why not add riches here if you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foe View Post
    @Dan my cousin is also moving on, heading from A&M to bama.

    Not sure I can bring myself to become a bama supporter.
    That's a bit of a betrayal on his part. At least you'd actually watch good offense if you started following Bama.

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    He’s basically heading into the world of assistance in college sports at the very junior level, but he gets to travel to all of these big programs and he’s super interested in it - so it’s a pretty cool future career.

    I’m quite jealous. He’s not in football though, so there’s still room for improvement.

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    How deep to you need to dip Dans mickey before you’re allowed on his private TTH NFL chat? Or do you just have to pat him on the head and tell him he’s nearly an NFL reporter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Have some draft grades. I'll also throw in their spot on the media consensus big board for reference, as well as where they ended up on mine.

    Just to give you a sense of the scale, it's 1-10 where 1 is a disaster, 10 is a massive bargain & 5 is basically fine. I'll also be taking trades into account, which will impact some of the scores.

    Carolina - #1 Bryce Young 6/10
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    Houston - #2 CJ Stroud 6/10 & #3 Will Anderson Jr 5/10
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    Indianapolis - #4 Anthony Richardson 6/10
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    Seattle - #5 Devon Witherspoon 6/10 & #20 Jaxson Smith-Njigba 8/10
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    Arizona - #6 Paris Johnson Jr 9/10
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    Las Vegas - #7 Tyree Wilson 6/10
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    Atlanta - #8 Bijan Robinson 6/10
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    Philadelphia - #9 Jalen Carter 8/10 & #31 Nolan Smith 9/10
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    Chicago - #10 Darnell Wright - 5/10
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    Tennessee - #11 Peter Skoronski 7/10
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    Detroit - #12 Jahmyr Gibbs 4/10 & #18 Jack Campbell 4/10
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    Green Bay - #13 Lukas Van Ness 6/10
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    Pittsburgh - #14 Broderick Jones 7/10
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    New York Jets - #15 Will McDonald 4/10
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    Washington - #16 Emmanuel Forbes 4/10
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    This is taking ages & I'm off out shortly so I'll do the rest later.
    It's later.

    New England - #17 Christian Gonzalez 8/10
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    Tampa Bay - #19 Calijah Kancey 5/10
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    Los Angeles Chargers - #21 Quinten Johnston 6/10
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    Baltimore - #22 Zay Flowers 6/10
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    Minnesota - #23 Jordan Addison 6/10
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    New York Giants - #24 Deonte Banks 8/10
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    Buffalo - #25 Dalton Kincaid 6/10
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    Dallas - #26 Mazi Smith 6/10
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    Jacksonville - #27 Anton Harrison 7/10
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    Cincinnati - #28 Myles Murphy 6/10
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    New Orleans - #29 Bryan Bresee 6/10
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    Kansas City - #31 Felix Anudike-Uzomah 4/10
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    In terms of the best players available, the consensus board & I agree on the top 5 - Joey Porter Jr (12 on the consensus board/21 on my board), Brian Branch (16/19), Michael Mayer (19/13), Will Levis (26/20) & O'Cyrus Torrence (30/31), but here are the next five on both boards:

    Consensus - Josh Downs (34), Cam Smith (35), Drew Sanders (37), Kelee Ringo (38) & John Michael Schmitz (39)
    My Board - Drew Sanders (34), Adetomiwa Adeboware (36), John Michael Schmitz (38), Darnell Washington (39) & Dawand Jones (40, although I hear he might have had a bad process & might fall a bit now).

    I'd also expect DJ Turner & Matthew Bergeron to be off the board pretty quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    How deep to you need to dip Dans mickey before you’re allowed on his private TTH NFL chat? Or do you just have to pat him on the head and tell him he’s nearly an NFL reporter.
    Just let me have this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foe View Post
    He’s basically heading into the world of assistance in college sports at the very junior level, but he gets to travel to all of these big programs and he’s super interested in it - so it’s a pretty cool future career.

    I’m quite jealous. He’s not in football though, so there’s still room for improvement.
    That's pretty cool. I'd imagine that it's hard to get in to the football program without having played for the team unless you're willing to work 60hrs a week for free or you're a scheme/analytics genius.

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