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    Rent free.

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    Buy at least the politicians will make their money.

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    Impressive renewables muscle-flexing from China, adding 108GW of solar this year

    That’s China adding in just 1 year:
    - 90% of the USA’s total solar capacity
    - 50% of Germany’s
    - 7 times Spain’s
    - 10 times France’s
    China currently has 323 gigawatts of solar and 338 gigawatts of wind

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-installations

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    The more coal they burn, the hotter it gets, the more solar power they produce. Genius.

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    Those comparisons are useless as well, renewables as a proportion of their entire production is all that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    The more coal they burn, the hotter it gets, the more solar power they produce. Genius.
    Global warming equals more sunlight?

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    Apparently China has committed to planting 70 billion trees by the end of the decade. Now that struck me as a lot. I know there are a lot of them, and maybe it's just getting each and every one of them to plant 50 trees or something, but my back of a fag packet calculations tell me that's coming in at something like 20 million trees a day until 2030, or 240 per second. I dunno. Seems unlikely.

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    Given how much we cut them down and how much space we don't have for them these days I was pretty staggered when looking at tree stats per country.

    COP continues to be a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Apparently China has committed to planting 70 billion trees by the end of the decade. Now that struck me as a lot. I know there are a lot of them, and maybe it's just getting each and every one of them to plant 50 trees or something, but my back of a fag packet calculations tell me that's coming in at something like 20 million trees a day until 2030, or 240 per second. I dunno. Seems unlikely.
    They've built hospitals within a week. Mass tree planting should be a piece of piss. As Yev's said, it means nothing if you can't outpace the rate we cut them down.

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    lol at poorer countries asking for 'climate reparations' like the West hasn't also stopped them eating each other and dying of mouth ulcers and sleeping sickness. That said, it seems sensible to pay the likes of Brazil and Indonesia not to cut their rainforests down. Pakistan can fucking whistle though. It deserves flooding.

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    Seems risky for the third-worlders. Surely any money would come with strings attached. Mainly not developing their fossil fuel industries, which will just keep them shit poor and depending on even more handouts.

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    Not if we spread the Green Jobs fairly.

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    Lol, just read the quantities being pledged. Running the event must have cost more than that.

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    It fundamentally doesn't work as an idea and these people are taking the absolute piss as a result. 27 of these complete time wasting events. 27 and they come up with that.

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    Nah, I am sure that the 2.5 million Euros that Belgium will give Mozambique over five years will really make a difference.

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    The best use of this sort of thing would be to pay poorer countries to prevent their citizens from migrating to the developed world and adopting our carbon-intensive lifestyles. Every African kept out of Europe is one less gas boiler, one less steak night, one less uninsured car with bald tyres... Practical solutions to practical problems.

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    We could also create a panel of environmentalists to determine the carrying capacity of each 1st world country and then ship the surplus citizens to Africa. With a stipend for their troubles, of course. Might seem unorthodox, but anything less would be COLLECTIVE SUICIDE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    The best use of this sort of thing would be to pay poorer countries to prevent their citizens from migrating to the developed world and adopting our carbon-intensive lifestyles. Every African kept out of Europe is one less gas boiler, one less steak night, one less uninsured car with bald tyres... Practical solutions to practical problems.
    But Sincere is from Haiti?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    We could also create a panel of environmentalists to determine the carrying capacity of each 1st world country and then ship the surplus citizens to Africa. With a stipend for their troubles, of course. Might seem unorthodox, but anything less would be COLLECTIVE SUICIDE.
    That sounds a lot like colonisation to me mate.

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    Sea surface temps.



    North Atlantic.



    Antarctica.



    El Nińo peak next summer.

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    Saw that last one being low and thought "that's not so bad then" but then realised that's sea ice extent and not sea surface temperature.

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    Quick, someone think of a tax.

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    Another play by big ice trying to make us pay more by melting.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68381160

    It's hard to not fall into the it's all a rort/nobody really wants to do anything about it/talk talk talk fatalistic view of this all when you read shit like:

    The Drax Power Station, near Selby in North Yorkshire, is a converted coal plant which burns wood pellets. In 2023, it produced about 5% of the UK's electricity. The site has become a key part of the government's drive to meet its climate targets.

    Its owner, Drax, receives money from energy bill payers because the electricity produced from burning pellets is classified as renewable and treated as emission-free.

    In fact, the power station emits about 12 million tonnes of carbon a year, but under international rules the UK doesn't have to count these emissions.


    They're cutting down ancient/primary forest for the pellets as well.

    I suspect this is more likely the tip of the iceberg, rather than some advanced misinformation campaign by the wokerati in BBC Towers. Maybe 12 tonnes of emissions isn't that much, I don't know.

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    Is China still building 8 coal power stations a month? Lolol. Nothing we do in this country makes the blindest bit of difference. Just don't fill your kettle to the top lad. Job done.

    Giggles is probably right - not necessarily in saying that it CC isn't happening, but in saying that it's just a money grab. We're to stop using petrol, because they're horribly poluting and electric cars are green, but they're only green because we charge them using power sourced from burning forests which is also... erm... green.

    Just chuck it on the Everything Is Shit pile and stop worrying about it.

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    The solution is developing affordable renewable/non-carbon emitting energy that the whole World can use. Anything else is just frigging round the edges and will have almost no impact.

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    The solution is to stop worrying about it and just deal with the consequences as they (very slowly) come. Things like electric cars and renewable energy plants will become mainstream when/if they are cost effective.

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    In the meantime, I think we still should be aggressively planting trees (providing you're not in a country that catches fire in summer). I just love the whole green and pleasant land aesthetic.

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    Oilseed rape is the best countryside aesthetic. Trees are good, but half the year the best ones are barren and look properly grim. Mud, grey skies, bare brown trees. And was Jersusalem . . .

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    We should convert Australia into a big solar panel

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    At best, that powers some of Australia some of the time.

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    Yeah but no spiders.

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    Is adding a load of solar panels to a country with so many dangerous cold-blooded animals a good idea? We don't need to supercharge the cunts.

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    China

    Research published on Thursday by Global Energy Monitor (GEM), an NGO, found that China has 180 gigawatts (GW) of utility-scale solar power under construction and 15GW of wind power. That brings the total of wind and solar power under construction to 339GW, well ahead of the 40GW under construction in the US.

    The researchers only looked at solar farms with a capacity of 20MW or more, which feed directly into the grid. That means that the total volume of solar power in China could be much higher, as small scale solar farms account for about 40% of China’s solar capacity.


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/ar...f-world-report

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    Must be to power their robot army.

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    "Nothing can stop us except an overcast day with little wind."

    Seriously, solar is genuinely useless for China's massive consumption.

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    lol that we're doing more than India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    "Nothing can stop us except an overcast day with little wind."

    Seriously, solar is genuinely useless for China's massive consumption.
    Yeah, all these people spendings billions don't know what they are doing :/

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    Last edited by Shindig; 11-07-2024 at 05:55 PM.

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    Also the same country building completely unnecessary cities.

    https://www.news.com.au/afx_prid/202...Irz7cSdjt/xhlL

    Their economy depends on building and making shit, but they're so good - read: fast - at doing so, that they no longer need to do so. So here they are, building for the sake of building.

    Our economy has the same issue. It's just that in a service economy the ghost towns are middle managers, equality and diversity departments, Domestic Abuse Champions, Mental Health Firstaiders, DSE Assessments, bullshit training providers, etc.

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