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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    I’ve never seen James Bond.
    I don't think you're missing out on much, personally. My mates were going through them in order during lockdown, I got about as far as the 4th one and just couldn't stomach watching any more. I've seen a few other ones from different eras as well, and I don't really get the appeal. I might be being unfair, but it feels like there's not really much depth to any of them, they're quite formulaic, and thus they live and die on whether or not you find them fun, and largely I find them a pretty tedious slog to get through.

    In their defence, it probably does it no favours that it's such a cultural institution that you can easily know how they work as films without ever actually watching one.

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    They are, for the most part, just fun action films. I don't think there's lot depth to miss.

    The Craig ones are a bit more overwrought in place but they're still broadly just action films of vary quality.

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    It's a series that caters to all tastes over time. If you like moody introspection and punching Daniel Craig's your man, if you like knob gags and slide whistles Roger Moore's got you covered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    They are, for the most part, just fun action films. I don't think there's lot depth to miss.

    The Craig ones are a bit more overwrought in place but they're still broadly just action films of vary quality.
    Aye I think that's basically what I was getting at, just more succinct. I just don't find em fun personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    They are, for the most part, just fun action films.
    That's me out forever.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by wullie View Post
    It's a series that caters to all tastes over time. If you like moody introspection and punching Daniel Craig's your man, if you like knob gags and slide whistles Roger Moore's got you covered.
    This is it. I think you need to see at least two films from each Bond before writing them off completely. They are all action films but each Bond had their own interpretation of the role. For example, Moonraker and Licence To Kill are two very different films.

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    Strong "really you need to give this until series 4" energy there, Dave.

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    It's only 11 movies (Lazenby only had one) to know for sure if you like Bond or not. That's nothing.

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    I've seen bond films from different eras and I think for all the tonal differences and different ways the lead actors play the role...I mean, @wullie saying they cater to all tastes is a bit of a stretch.

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    They're fun action films, with distinctive iconography that stretches out across the decades, and an absolute belter of a John Barry theme tune (this is very underrated as a reason for their popularity, for me Clive). No shame in liking or not liking them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Strong "really you need to give this until series 4" energy there, Dave.

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    I think they're largely quite crap.

    The new Mission Impossibles are far better than any James Bond output. Hell, Fast and Furious 5 is better than any Bond movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by igor_balis View Post
    I've seen bond films from different eras and I think for all the tonal differences and different ways the lead actors play the role...I mean, @wullie saying they cater to all tastes is a bit of a stretch.
    All tastes between moody fistfights and Carry On Spying at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wullie View Post
    All tastes between moody fistfights and Carry On Spying at least.
    Okay I'll give you that.

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    I edge towards largely mediocre films with the odd exception. The latest Craig set were all excellent.

    Similar to star wars. Had a few good ones but mostly crap.

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    And finally, the film thread has been hijacked into the James Bond film thread and rightfully so. It's only taken 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave. View Post
    And finally, the film thread has been hijacked into the James Bond film thread and rightfully so. It's only taken 20 years.


    I apologise to the other film enthusiasts for my role in this. I'll be done soon, I promise!

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    Speaking of which, the conclusion of The Brosnan years:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post


    I apologise to the other film enthusiasts for my role in this. I'll be done soon, I promise!
    I half thought about doing my own reviews combined with ratings then I realised I wouldn't be able to score any of them less than a 6.5/7 so rating them would be a giant waste of everyone's time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave. View Post
    I half thought about doing my own reviews combined with ratings then I realised I wouldn't be able to score any of them less than a 6.5/7 so rating them would be a giant waste of everyone's time.
    Do it.

    Good long write ups like Alex too

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    I’ll read them, do it Dave.

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    And you could give us James Bond POWER RANKINGS at the end of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave. View Post
    I half thought about doing my own reviews combined with ratings then I realised I wouldn't be able to score any of them less than a 6.5/7 so rating them would be a giant waste of everyone's time.
    You should definitely do it. It's interesting to see other peoples takes on them all.

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    Die Another Day is arguably one of the worst songs ever made, let alone the worst Bond theme.

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    Mad to think Madonna still thinks she's a sex symbol now, and it was already tragic then.

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    Yeah, it's like she's doing all the ageing Liz Hurley isn't. And I'd put money down on her shagging one of her adopted sons.

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    Giving Die Another Day a 7/10 should see the white jacket reached for. Are you watching these movies while doing nothing else? No mobile/internet browsing, just watching?

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    Quote Originally Posted by igor_balis View Post
    Mad to think Madonna still thinks she's a sex symbol now, and it was already tragic then.
    Last photo I saw of her I genuinely wouldn't have known it was her if not for the caption.

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    My main takeaway from Goldeneye now, as it was then, is I'd happily let Famke Janssen shag me to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by igor_balis View Post
    Die Another Day is arguably one of the worst songs ever made, let alone the worst Bond theme.
    Die Another Day is a somewhat bizarre song in fact it doesn't work under any circumstances. Hear it on the radio and it's an instant switch-off. However (and against all logic) it works well when played over the opening credits.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Giving Die Another Day a 7/10 should see the white jacket reached for. Are you watching these movies while doing nothing else? No mobile/internet browsing, just watching?
    I think it gets too much stick. Yes, John Cleese is a bad Desmond Llewellyn substitute. Yes, Halle Berry is a pretty dreadful Bond girl. Yes, the film falls to pieces after Iceland.

    BUT there is plenty to enjoy in the first hour and people do forget this. The opening sequence is one of best in the entire series and the prisoner exchange is well done. I even enjoyed the fencing scene but appreciate if this isn't to others taste.

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    What just happened?
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    What just happened?
    Quoted wrong post.

    Fixed now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    My main takeaway from Goldeneye now, as it was then, is I'd happily let Famke Janssen shag me to death.
    100% this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave. View Post
    BUT there is plenty to enjoy in the first hour and people do forget this. The opening sequence is one of best in the entire series and the prisoner exchange is well done. I even enjoyed the fencing scene but appreciate if this isn't to others taste.

    Nope it was awful. That whole hoverboat shit was terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Nope it was awful. That whole hoverboat shit was terrible.
    I can't agree. For an action film of it's type in 2002, it was perfectly fine.

    Also something you need to remember is that the Bond films need to work hard to create tension. For the most part, the plot is obvious in that Bond doesn't die. The opening scene in Die Another Day succeeds in doing this. Bond's cover is exposed. He escapes but is captured and is sent to prison and tortured. This is something that hadn't been explored in any of the previous films. Also having North Korea as the villains was very topical for the time.

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    Casino Royale

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    I do have something of a social life, I swear. I've just had a bit of time off work this week and not a lot to do.

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    Die Another Day 7/10 and Quantum of Solace 8/10. You've given them collectively about eight more points than they deserve.

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    I like QoS.

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    I’m very much a fan of QoS, I feel it’s better than most give it credit for. It’s short by modern standards as well. Following up the perfection of Casino Royale certainly hurt it significantly. I’d give it a 6/10.

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    Quantum of Solace is booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring.

    Not everything has to be be massively over the top but "this weird sex pest wants to nick a load of water" is pants and the final stretch is proper meh.

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    I wasn't aware of all the bad feeling about Quantum of Solace until I read about it online after I had watched it. I was surprised by it. I basically did watch it as a double feature with Casino Royale though. Maybe that has benefitted it?

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    As part of the full Daniel Craig arc it’s good. If you view it as a stand-alone it’s a bit strange because of the central story, as Ian alluded to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Quantum of Solace is booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring.

    Not everything has to be be massively over the top but "this weird sex pest wants to nick a load of water" is pants and the final stretch is proper meh.
    This.

    I watched it at 10am on a Saturday morning and almost dozed off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    As part of the full Daniel Craig arc it’s good. If you view it as a stand-alone it’s a bit strange because of the central story, as Ian alluded to.
    This.

    I definitely recommend watching it as a double bill with Casino Royale .

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    Goldeneye is on a day early

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    As much as I like this, the bike to plane thing is ridiculous.

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    Death by Famkke would indeed be a glorious exit.

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    Watched 'Last Seen Alive' last night starring Gerard Butler. I strongly suspect it was a geezer teaser.

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