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    Is the Yahoo-season of Community worth watching? Better than the gasleak? I sort of enjoyed season 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toby View Post
    Girlfriend and I have been watching The West Wing recently, about halfway through the fourth series now. I'd probably have smashed through it all already if not for agreeing to watch it together but it's one that's probably better appreciated with time between episodes.

    It's definitely worth a watch if you haven't seen it. Consistently very good with the occasional episode that is well up there with best of TV.
    Do you not get a bit sick of how often it breaks the 'show, don't tell' rule?

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    Banshee, loads of people have mentioned that to me recently. Is it season 4 that's about to start?
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    There's a season four coming apparently.

    No news on trailers though.
    Banshee is great fun, but it's basically just very well executed pulpy nonsense. It has the best fight scenes on TV, and Job is a fucking great character though, so it's still worth recommending.

    The fourth season will be the last.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernanke View Post
    For the love of god, The Americans. More people NEED to see it.
    Yes. This is the correct answer.

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    Some of these suggestions look great, but as previously mentioned I'm just not starting anything that either hasn't already finished or is about to go into/is already in its final season.

    The week to week, then 6 month wait for another episode of something you're really into is just dogshit.

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    Banshee is going into its final season, albeit not until January, but there are thirty something episodes available now, and it's cracking fun. The Americans is similar, in that it's three seasons in and going into a fourth, but it's highly unlikely that it'll be the last.

    The miniseries of Fargo was a great watch too. Ten episodes and out, with Martin Freeman and Billy Bob Thornton being brilliant. There will be a followup, but it's set thirty years in the past, with different characters, and based around a story that was mentioned in passing during the first run.

    Rectify is excellent, but given you thought there was nothing at all happening in The Wire I imagine you'd report Rectify to trading standards for describing itself as a drama.

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    Is The Americans as campy as it comes across in the first few episodes? It seemed rather 'fun' rather than the more serious thing I was looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Do you not get a bit sick of how often it breaks the 'show, don't tell' rule?
    I've seen you post about this before but the honest answer is no. When they're talking about presidents making once-in-a-generation speeches I'm fine with them just showing snippets and reactions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Is The Americans as campy as it comes across in the first few episodes? It seemed rather 'fun' rather than the more serious thing I was looking for.
    It gets quite dark and grim in fairly short order.

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    I've seen you post about this before but the honest answer is no. When they're talking about presidents making once-in-a-generation speeches I'm fine with them just showing snippets and reactions.
    It did my head in. That, the more didactic sequences, and the always present 'could care less' would have combined to make me give up on it completely quite early on if it wasn't so absolutely brilliant when it was clicking.

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    I've got one episode of Narcos left and then I think it'll be The Knick.

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    Not normally for this thead, but Dave Gorman's Modern Life is Goodish is so so so good.

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    I think the plan for The Americans always was 5 seasons.

    Like Breaking Bad, it's one of those shows that needs some time to work in the characters etc., season 3 was easily the best one so far. I rank it very highly compared to "great seasons from other good shows".

    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    I've got one episode of Narcos left and then I think it'll be The Knick.
    Narcos is boring me a bit after 4-5 episodes. The narration becomes too much at times I think.

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    What is it? I did a bit of a Dave Gorman binge after watching his Googlewhack show to the point where I'd watched so much Dave Gorman, I could no longer watch Dave Gorman be Dave Gorman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Not normally for this thead, but Dave Gorman's Modern Life is Goodish is so so so good.
    Is there a third series of that on the go? I rather enjoyed the last one.

    Give Fargo a look, Yev. And Southland.

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    It's just Dave talking about random observational shit, including people's mentality, the way companies do things, just all sorts really. He does it for 45 minutes each episode with his projector.

    It's not often laugh out loud funny, but it's such a tight watch and seems to get better with each series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Is there a third series of that on the go? I rather enjoyed the last one.
    Yeah, three episodes in. Southland and Fargo are getting added to the list cheers John.

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    Just give Breaking Bad another run

    And on a related note, how is Better Call Saul? I watched the first three episodes when it came out, but then my laptop broke, and I haven't tried watching it since.

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    I was a bit fatigued by Saul after watching Breaking Bad twice in about 6 months, so I only did the first couple before knocking it on the head for the time being.

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    I'm in the same boat as Yevrah. Need something new to watch but don't want something that hasn't finished as it's annoying waiting on stuff. Made that mistake with Mr Robot and Orphan Black recently although they are both very good.

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    Aquarius on Sky Atlantic might be worth a shout.

    Crime drama featuring a random 16 year old female teenager falling head over heels with a potential mass murderer and kingpin. I only saw one episode but it looks promising so far. I'm considering giving that a watch over the coming weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    It gets quite dark and grim in fairly short order.



    It did my head in. That, the more didactic sequences, and the always present 'could care less' would have combined to make me give up on it completely quite early on if it wasn't so absolutely brilliant when it was clicking.
    "Could care less" grates a little but it's hardly uncommon in American TV.

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    Get on The Strain, lads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahow View Post
    Get on The Strain, lads.
    Is it vampire based bollocks? If so, nah, not doing that.

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    Sounds like vampires mixed with zombies.

    Dr. Ephraim Goodweather, the head of the CDC's New York-based Canary Project, is called upon to investigate when an airplane lands with everybody on board dead. What his team discovers is a viral outbreak that has similarities to an ancient strain of vampirism. As the virus begins to spread, Goodweather works with his team and a group of the city's residents to wage a war that could hold humanity's fate in its hand. The show's executive producers include Oscar-nominated writer Guillermo del Toro and Emmy-winning producer Carlton Cuse.

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    I'm always scared of watching new shows. I know I'll have to go a few episodes into it to really feel I can judge it, and with new episodes always being more difficult to watch, if those first few I watch don't excite me, I feel I've wasted too much time and energy.

    And then I revert to watching clips like this

    And that sets me back quite a bit in my search for new series... It's a tough life.

    EDIT: Just realized the clip might be a spoiler for some. How do I use a spoiler tag?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Is it vampire based bollocks? If so, nah, not doing that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Sounds like vampires mixed with zombies.
    It's vampires.

    It's amazing though, Del Toro

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    For the zombie part I meant that there's a virus that spreads. That's zombie-like.

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    The Strain is fucking abysmal. Even the creature design, usually a strength in anything with Del Toro's name on it, isn't up to much.

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    Has anyone seen Revolution?

    The concept sounds interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    It's just Dave talking about random observational shit, including people's mentality, the way companies do things, just all sorts really. He does it for 45 minutes each episode with his projector.

    It's not often laugh out loud funny, but it's such a tight watch and seems to get better with each series.
    Yea, I'm really enjoying the new series. Probably the only show I look forward to each week. It's so good.

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    Now, THAT'S campy. The basic premise is a lot better than the actual show but if you've got nothing else to watch and want a 'badasses of the week' kind of show it's good.

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    Watched the James Randi documentary on BBC4 tonight, it was excellent. I'd seen him fucking with Geller et al on youtube clips before but I didn't realise how much of an interesting bloke he was.

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    Anyone been watching Fear The Walking Dead, or whatever it's called? How does it compare with the normal series?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJay View Post
    Anyone been watching Fear The Walking Dead, or whatever it's called? How does it compare with the normal series?
    IIRC it didn't go down well in the TV thread on old TTH, especially from John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahow View Post
    IIRC it didn't go down well in the TV thread on old TTH, especially from John.
    Figured that might be the case.

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    The music is better than the original, but they've basically fucked themselves by glossing over the most inherently interesting parts of their premise and putting the focus on the most problematic ones. All they're really doing is providing evidence that they were right to skip a few months in with the original.

    It's no worse than the original at its worst and it's only a six episode run so I'll see it through, but it really isn't up to much.

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    Only 6?

    I made get started on that tomorrow then.

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    The Strain is pure shite.

    Revolution can be cheesy fun, can be pretty abysmal. The general premise is great though and sometimes it can carry it through. I wouldn't go out of my way to see it if you haven't seen the abundance of other amazing shows but it is watchable.

    I've actually enjoyed Fear Of The Walking Dead so far but it will interesting to see what direction it follows.

    Anyone that hasn't watched The Americans needs to get on it ASAP. Same with Rectify and The Affair.

    Not a drama but Curb Your Enthusiasm is absolutely brilliant and has a 30 minute runtime. He is about as miserable as most of TTH so I reckon everyone would like it. There's plenty of seasons to get through too.

    For dramas that have finished their runs you can't go wrong with any of:
    The Wire
    The Sopranos
    The Shield
    Justified
    Friday Night Lights
    Breaking Bad

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    The Returned should be back on Channel 4 in a few weeks, which kills my temptation to watch the US remake. Ou est mon velo a la piscine LAKE PUB

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    The Returned (french version) is excellent.

    I've finally just started Mad Men the past few nights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh View Post
    For dramas that have finished their runs you can't go wrong with any of:
    The Wire
    The Sopranos
    The Shield

    Justified
    Friday Night Lights
    Breaking Bad
    Yeah, I'm with you on the first three and Breaking Bad. I'd also throw 6 Feet Under into the mix, I watched it recently and reckon it deserves more of a mention in these kind of 'best tv dramas EVERRR' discussions. Went a bit weird for a brief bit in the middle, but not as bad as The Wire season 5 for example.

    Trying to figure out which show of their ilk I'll go for next. I tried Deadwood when Charlie Brooker was going mad about it, but I thought it was pretty fucking boring to be honest.

    Anyone else got suggestions? Not too fussed about decent current shows, as I've got plenty of old ones I haven't seen. Also, I find having to wait for episodes week to week proper shit, and would rather be able to go at my own pace (i.e. put off watching it for ages then binge 4 seasons in a weekend).

    I thought the 'fly episode' of Breaking Bad was a perfect example - if I'd waited a week for that, I'd have gone mental, but I didn't really notice it as part of a 10 hour binge.

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    Oh, I might watch The Shield.

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    First few seasons are decent entertainment.

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    Ewww, 4:3 aspect ratio.

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    I like The Shield because it is so much more developed than your usual crime procedural but still has all the fun cliches - notably the wildcard cop who plays by no rules but his own.


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    I'm downloading The Blacklist through Sky Box Sets, any good?

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    Very.

    Spader is absolutely brilliant in his role.

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    I didn't last long with it. There's fun to be had in James Spader rolling lines around his mouth and the character is excellent, but he's the only interesting character in it. He's also so far ahead of the rest of the cast as an actor that everyone else looks crap playing against him, which is a problem.

    The main actress's wig is good fun aswell, actually. A bit of a theme developing with this and The Strain, 'how.

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    Mahow just watches any old shite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Mahow just watches any old shite.
    That much is true.

    Although I do love The Blacklist and I wouldn't call that (or The Strain for that matter) 'any old shite'.

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    I was talking about the wigs, not the quality of the program. The main bloke in The Strain has a hilariously bad and unnecessary wig aswell.

    I get why they'd use a wig to cover up continuity problems stemming from the actor changing their hair, but why the Dickens would you cast a bald actor and put a wig on him from day one when his having hair isn't fundamental to the character?

    What did you think of Parks in the end, Boyd?

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    Absolutely loved it in the end. Although I thought it dipped a bit in the final season as there was too much change. Everyone went on to be a bit too successful and happy.

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