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    The latest episode of The Good Place was just lovely. They seem to be heading in yet another direction I'm not sure about, but at this point they've got infinite benefit of the doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvN View Post
    I finished the German TV show "Dark" today - well, the first season anyway, as I hear a second season has already been given the go ahead. Really enjoyed it, but one of those that you can't take your eye off for a moment or you'll miss something.

    Not sure if it was the German character names, subtitles, or something else, but I also had trouble keeping track of who was who.
    This is probably the best thing I've seen recently. You're right though, need to watch it like a hawk.

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    I found Wallander in the charity shop so started watching it last night. After watching lots of Scandi noir, it's a bit jarring to have Brits playing Swedish detectives. It's got nothing on the killing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    They're all different (it's an anthology series), so some are a lot better than others. Watch the second one of the first series ('A Quiet Night In'), if you don't like that then you won't like any of it.

    Also they all have twists/twist endings, so you sometimes need to let it play out a bit even if nothing seems to be happening. That isn't to say there aren't weaker ones, though.
    I must be the exception as I did just that and wasn't overly keen. Happy to report I've since watched 3 more and it's good.

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    The new BBC thing from the guy who wrote Luther, Hard Sun, is fucking bizarre. It's ostensibly set in a world about to end because the sun is going to explode, then it asks you to give a toss about a piddling murder investigation and a crooked policeman. There are some seriously odd little details too, like at one point someone gets their hands on the intelligence files about the exploding sun and it flashes across the screen, with the single most prominently displayed page headed 'Bodybag Demand' with a line graph going out the top of its axis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Shearer The 2nd View Post
    I must be the exception as I did just that and wasn't overly keen. Happy to report I've since watched 3 more and it's good.
    Fully up to date now, thought I'd have taken longer to spin it out. This latest series has been outstanding so far.

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    I've been watching Hannibal recently. I'm almost at the end of season two. It's really good, I'm not sure why it's taken me this long. It's very stylishly put together. Something about the colour palette and the way they film it, it always looks fantastic. It's impressively gruesome too, a lot of the murder set pieces are ridiculously good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Shearer The 2nd View Post
    Fully up to date now, thought I'd have taken longer to spin it out. This latest series has been outstanding so far.
    Yep. All three have been ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Shearer The 2nd View Post
    This is probably the best thing I've seen recently. You're right though, need to watch it like a hawk.
    Nice to hear someone else watched and enjoyed it. I thought it would have received more fanfare, but I suppose foreign language shows aren't for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Yep. All three have been ridiculous.
    It's one of the rare shows that, while not a laugh a minute, manages to get me in hysterics at times.

    In Zanzibar- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qViD9JlTrpE

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    Star Trek: Discovery has been brilliant since it came back from it's break. Especially the last 2 episodes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Star Trek: Discovery has been brilliant since it came back from it's break. Especially the last 2 episodes.
    Yeah really enjoying it. They're not fucking about dragging storylines out or anything.

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    Black Lightning

    The lead, Cress Williams, is so damn good.

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    I've just started watching The Thick of It. Beside the odd Youtube video of Malcolm Tucker losing his shit I've never seen any of it before. What a true delight. It's devilishly fantastic.

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    Watch In The Loop while you're at it.

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    Is that to watch after all the series?

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    It doesn't really matter. It's the same writers and actors, but they mostly play different roles and the story is unconnected to what's going on in The Thick of It. As I remember it fed pretty directly into Veep though, with half the Yank staffers in the film winding up in similar roles for that.

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    I thought In The Loop was a big drop off from the series.

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    On the fourth episode of Inside No.9, on @Jimmy Floyd's recommendation. Hooked.

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    I Dont watch much movies or tv shows anymore but im into McMafia heavy. Alex the main character, get him as the next james bond

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    Quote Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel View Post
    I Dont watch much movies or tv shows anymore but im into McMafia heavy. Alex the main character, get him as the next james bond
    He’s current favourite @2/1
    I'm a twit

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    Discovery

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    I thought In The Loop was a big drop off from the series.
    It was basically a Malcolm Tucker greatest hits tour, whilst murdering all the equally good supporting characters from the series. Still, if you need to sell to Americans, simplicity is needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Discovery
    Since they've returned they have been absolutely killing it.

    It's brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Since they've returned they have been absolutely killing it.

    It's brilliant.
    Once you get over or ignore how absolutely fucking ridiculous the whole mirror universe thing is, then it's the most enjoyable thing I've seen on TV in a while. Even though today's felt like a finale there's still a good few things to be tied up with the war and Ashvoq.

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    I watched the first episode of the Netflix redo of One Day At A Time last night. It's loud and broad and not very good, but it's alerted me to the fact that Rita Moreno might be immortal. She's pushing ninety and it genuinely looks a little off that she's the mother of a character I reckon is supposed to be about forty.

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    Been getting around to watching Parks and Recreation. Largely pretty good, but I've just hit season five and it's fallen off a cliff. Ben and April are awful, and Chris is only getting worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Discovery
    Whilst I've always enjoyed Star Trek series as a perfect easy to watch after school/work/uni etc offering, this series is the first to have me feeling hooked.

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    I'll take back the 'not very good' portion of my last post. It's actually good, I just switched off the first episode about three minutes before it moved into slightly more dramatic territory. The comedic sensibility is a bit Big Bang Theory, it's all setup punchline, but I watched two more last night after finishing the first and it moves fairly gracefully between the comedy and the drama. It has the potential to be very good.

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    On the home stretch of Dark now, watched the first episode and had to force ourselves to continue but it's really picked up. From what I gather, in Germany it rains every day and your best friend is probably also your grandson who will marry your daughter 40 years ago.

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    I've been watching Discovery too. It's definitely compulsive viewing, even if you can see some of the twists coming a mile off. It remains to be seen if it can keep that going. Not sure it will have the same rewatch value as the older series do but that's probably what you get when you don't do standalone episodes.

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    Do you need to have seen the other Star Treks to watch this new one?

    If so, where's the best place to start?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Do you need to have seen the other Star Treks to watch this new one?

    If so, where's the best place to start?
    Nope not a bit. Though being familiar with the whole mirror universe story from the other series would help as a lot of Discovery is based on it and there's a few small crossover references.

    Best not think about the mirror universe thing too much anyway as it's ridiculous, and just go with it.

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    No.

    It made me start watching the entire back catalog but the only thing you'll really miss is small references.

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    Getting into Inside No. 9 recently has got me onto Psychoville.

    Was a bit disappointed with the second season. Still good but
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    Rewatching season ten of The X-Files before starting on the new ones. God, I love it.
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    I watched the first episode of Star Trek (TNG) but found it incredibly boring. Read the synopsis for episode two and sacked it off. Shame, as it's the sort of thing I really should be into.

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    Later TNG > Voyager > all others

    Not watched Discovery but will do so soon.

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    I watched the updated Battlestar before watching any Star Trek beyond what I saw when I was a kid and my dad had it on, and it all just seems a bit childish by comparison.

    The first two episodes of Discovery were good enough that I'll definitely watch more of it at some point but it didn't hook me the way the really good stuff does.

    Counterpart looks like it could be a cracking new sci fi show. JK Simmons in dual roles.

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    While we're on the topic of Sci-Fi, I watched the first episode of that new Netflix show, Altered Carbon, last night. The reviews have been pretty mixed but it seemed alright. They've maybe gone a little bit heavy on the Blade Runner overtones when it comes to the look of it all though.

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    New Endeavour tonight. Does anybody else on here watch it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    While we're on the topic of Sci-Fi, I watched the first episode of that new Netflix show, Altered Carbon, last night. The reviews have been pretty mixed but it seemed alright. They've maybe gone a little bit heavy on the Blade Runner overtones when it comes to the look of it all though.
    I'm balls deep into this. It's awesome.

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    Quick summary of things I've seen within the past couple months.

    Shows that were garbage halfway into the first episode:
    * Altered Carbon

    Shows that became garbage halfway into the first season:
    * Mr Robot

    Shows that were good enough:
    * EASY
    * Glitch
    * Stranger Things

    Shows that proved golden halfway into their first episode:
    * DARK
    * Marvelous Mrs Maisel
    * Mindhunter

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    Altered Carbon is like Snowpiercer to me. Its writing is heavy-handed as shown by its distinct lack of subtlety and nuance in exploring its themes, the cinematography is stunted, and it crams as much cyberpunk as it can down your throat to obscure its lack of atmosphere.

    It's dumb science fiction. I don't care if it "gets better if you stick with it" because it won't.

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    Marvelous Mrs Maisel was lovely.

    You've biffed yourself there though by complaining about heavy handed writing in Altered Carbon then praising the first episode of Mindhunter, which had the most leaden dialogue this side of a Matrix sequel. It picked up in short order once episode two started and was shit hot from the moment Kemper appeared, but that first episode was a slog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Marvelous Mrs Maisel was lovely.

    You've biffed yourself there though by complaining about heavy handed writing in Altered Carbon then praising the first episode of Mindhunter, which had the most leaden dialogue this side of a Matrix sequel. It picked up in short order once episode two started and was shit hot from the moment Kemper appeared, but that first episode was a slog.
    I completely forgot about the slog until this moment, and remembered the show starting on episode two. Mindhunter's Kemper is one of the most compelling characters I've ever seen.

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    He almost isn't a character at all. Pretty much everything he said was taken verbatim from actual interviews, and the one bit which departed significantly was actually a less mental version of the real interview.

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    I wasn't sure if 'character' was right for that reason as Mindhunter combines depictions of serial killers with original characters.

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    Also, This Is Us is really good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda Bear View Post
    Also, This Is Us is really good.
    I really liked any of that I seen, but they always put it on at a stupid time here so I lost track of it.

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