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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    There's a lot more to it than that dude.

    http://www.healthline.com/nutrition/...-myth#section1
    http://www.flnutrition.co.uk/the-cal...r-weight-loss/
    https://www.prevention.com/weight-lo...er-calorie?amp

    Foods affect you in really different ways. It's better to eat healthy foods that work well for you than worry about calorie counting.

    There's a good book called "The Metabolic Typing Diet" which I recommend.
    For weight loss it doesn't really matter. Calories are calories. Eat less calories than you expend and you lose weight.

    My PT is a qualified nutritionist.

    Will obviously be different for adding lean muscle and increasing weight but I'm not at that stage yet.

    Should also caveat this by saying that obviously a healthy diet staying within calories is important however it's good to know that you can have the odd treat here and there and not be tempted to think you've fucked your diet and its game over.

    At an estimate I would say I'm eating 3 meals a day and 2 snacks, so 35 'meals a week' and it's healthy for 30 or so. I have 1-2 cheat meals a week and a bag of crisps/dark chocolate every other day which does the job for keeping me motivated to keep going.

    Best advice I got was not reaching the 'fuck it' stage after you have a bad meal and continuing it for the next two days. Enjoy the cheat meal and get back on the wagon and go again.

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    Isn't 'nutritionist' the poundworld version of a 'dietitian'? I'm sure I've read that only the latter has a meaningful qualification. Anyway, he's not wrong. You need to get calories in check, but eating 'healthier' makes it a lot easier to eat less.

    I'm feeling very motivated at the moment and I've given myself a four week target, which I'm four days into and all is going as planned. I should drop a stone minimum. Should things continue as planned I'll be able to start bulking come September 25th.

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    "The title "dietitian" is protected by law. This means you are not allowed to call yourself a dietitian unless you are properly qualified and registered with the HCPC.

    ...

    The title of nutritionists is not protected by law, meaning that anyone can advertise their services as a nutritionist. So it is important to find a nutritionist who is appropriately qualified and registered by a trustworthy professional body."

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    Everything is good and everything is bad. It just depends on which mong you're reading on a particular week.

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    Pretty much, yeah. Just go with what you're feeling. Sometimes it's two 18" pizzas, sometimes it's an avocado.

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    Those 'articles' don't really dispute the basic premise. They just add stuff about hormones (not as important), subjective lifestyle bollocks, and advise against starving yourself (well in lads). Eat five-thousand calories of 'healthy foods that work well for you' and see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Those 'articles' don't really dispute the basic premise. They just add stuff about hormones (not as important), subjective lifestyle bollocks, and advise against starving yourself (well in lads). Eat five-thousand calories of 'healthy foods that work well for you' and see what happens.
    I've not said that calories have no part to play at all, so the last sentence is irrelevant. My point is that it's a flawed notion that calories are the one and only key to weight loss.

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    You said 'There's a lot more to it', and that 'It's better to eat healthy foods that work well for you than worry about calorie counting'. However things 'work for you' in lifestyle terms you still have to take in less energy than you use, which necessitates calorie counting.

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    Again, I'm not saying calories don't matter at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    I've not said that calories have no part to play at all, so the last sentence is irrelevant. My point is that it's a flawed notion that calories are the one and only key to weight loss.
    They're the deciding factor though, which was my point.

    If I eat 1800 calories of donuts I'll still lose weight, as I've expended a lot more than that. I'll feel shit and it won't be good for me but I'll still lose it.

    As Lewis infers, if I ate 3000 calories of lettuce I'd probably feel quite good, but I wouldn't lose any weight as I don't expend 3000 per day.

    Balance is the key, but within certain calorie limits.

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    I don't think you'd feel very good if you ate 3000 calories a day of lettuce.

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    You'd be fucking suicidal for a start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    I don't think you'd feel very good if you ate 3000 calories a day of lettuce.
    It was an example

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    It would actually be really hard to eat 3,000 calories of raw veg. You can eat a bag of spinach for like 25 calories. It's a good snack if you feel the urge to binge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamski View Post
    It was an example
    I know.

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    Down 2lbs this week.

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    I just came out starving from the gym and ordered an Extra large Falafel "salad". It must have had about 1000 calories in it but I fucking plowed through it all

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    We go away at the end of the month so I'm back on the diet wagon. Probably left it too late to look presentable but fuck it.

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    I've ate cake every day. Not looking forward to weighing myself when I'm back.

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    Been eating those Muller Light yogurts since they're 'free'. They quite a good sweet treat. Got a peanut and caramel one tonight that I hadn't seen before and thought sounded nice. It's fucking rank. Ate it about two hours ago and I still have a horrible aftertaste from it.

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    Luckily I don't have a sweet tooth so I can stay off most cakes and stuff (there's an endless stream of cake and bakeries always being served in my office).

    Anything a bit buttery is a weakness though, like croissants and other sort of pastries like that. And I do like some decent Ice cream, but eat it very rarely. Fatty foods is where it's all at, chips and burgers etc. But even that I'm cutting down on quite a bit these days.


    If I didn't drink beer, I'd be fucking shredded I reckon.

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    1kg down in 3 days.

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    That's just over 2lbs for any non-wankers looking in.

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    Hit 35lbs down today at my last pre-holiday personal trainer class.

    Flying out tomorrow so Dominos again to celebrate tonight.

    Aiming to drop another 16lbs or so by Christmas and then start building it back up.

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    Finally got the ball rolling with this. I've been at it for about 3 weeks, but I had a friend visiting this weekend so ate and drank a lot. But I'm down about 7 lbs so far. I want to lose at least another stone, perhaps a bit more depending on how I look and feel.

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    I've done it, lads. First time since about 2014 that I am not "overweight" according to the admittedly shit BMI measurement. With the tool's inability to take into account my Tobyesque cranium I was probably there a couple of weeks ago, but still.

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    From being about 14 stone in January, I was down to 11st 8 the other week. Back up to 11st 11 after a pretty indulgent week off work, but I'm still pretty chuffed.

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    Some nice clear after photos there.

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    Nice work, fair fucks.

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    Good effort. How did you manage it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsrevolution View Post
    Oh and you get a bonus baby Ophelia pic. Instead of a fanny licker dog. So, bonus all round.
    Are you mashed though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Some nice clear after photos there.
    Before:
    Toggle Spoiler



    After:
    Toggle Spoiler

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    That's how you do photos.

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    8 pounds on in 12 days

    Reckon I’ll lose around half of that by Friday just with water retention and a decent diet so not too bad all in.

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    I'd say I've put on at least a stone and in not done yet, there's still shitloads in the house.

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    Final blow out tonight ahead of weigh-in and soup diet for the next fortnight or so. I’m estimating 84kg, up from 79kg in mid-December.

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    Threw out loads of junk food today. Still got a few bits that were unopened left, but I'm fairly certain I can avoid those. The real challenge will be stopping the casual drinking every evening, which has been something I've been doing for the past couple of months. I'd estimate there's been less than 5 days since October that I haven't had a few beers.

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    The Koreans have certainly got into the spirit: large pizzas for everyone for lunch tomorrow, on the company.

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    I'm in. I genuinely don't think my body could handle another year/Christmas on the scale it has been. Need to sort my life out. Been feeling like I'm about to die for most of today.

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    The other day I was sat down watching TV and realised I was wheezing. How has it come to this?

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    Do people actually physically throw out junk food so they won't eat it?

    Send it my way you heathens!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvN View Post
    The other day I was sat down watching TV and realised I was wheezing. How has it come to this?
    Yeah this is where I'm at. Putting on socks at the moment feels like a genuine risk to my internal organs. I've probably done some lasting damage.

    Cutting out shit food should be quite easy to begin with as I can't actually stand the thought of food right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvN View Post
    The other day I was sat down watching TV and realised I was wheezing. How has it come to this?


    I noticed I was way more out of breath than I should have been after running up the stairs the other day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samadini View Post
    Yeah this is where I'm at. Putting on socks at the moment feels like a genuine risk to my internal organs. I've probably done some lasting damage.

    Cutting out shit food should be quite easy to begin with as I can't actually stand the thought of food right now.
    Do you ever go to that chip stall in the Norwich market?

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    I haven't because it looks a bit shit. Is it actually decent? The Grosvenor is good, but you have to put up with that Canadian bicentennial man and you have to fucking queue.

    I won't be doing a fancy pants diet here, just going to eat less, try to lower the frequency of my junk food intake and start going to the gym once I've shaken off this feeling that I've torn the left side of my abdomen. Being mega fat actually hurts.

    I spent all day yesterday doing solid shits which coupled with my abdominal pain is why I thought I was going to die. Weighed myself after my 18th shit of the day and I had put on weight for fucks sake. One more shit this morning and I lost 3 pounds. Think I can probably shit my way to my target of not being morbidly obese.

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    65.3KG
    I'm a twit

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    First day went well yesterday. Didn't slip at all, nor was I particularly tempted to. The challenge will be the rest of the week - once I get into a routine, I'm fairly good at sticking to it. It's just getting into the routine that I sometimes struggle with.

    I'm basically at the exact weight I was this time last year when I got back from Australia. I reckon I can easily lose a stone within the first 2-3 weeks, and from there it will start to become more of a chore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samadini View Post
    I haven't because it looks a bit shit. Is it actually decent? The Grosvenor is good, but you have to put up with that Canadian bicentennial man and you have to fucking queue.
    It is, but don't be tempted by their cheese or gravy or anything. Just go for the chips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samadini View Post
    I'm in. I genuinely don't think my body could handle another year/Christmas on the scale it has been. Need to sort my life out. Been feeling like I'm about to die for most of today.
    Lost almost a stone in 5 days and haven't even been to the gym. lol

    My abdominal pain is basically one now (I couldn't even walk properly when it first started), so I guess I'm not dying and I'll actually be able to go to the gym next week.

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    I've lost 8 pounds so far, a lot of which will have just been water weight from the ridiculous amount of eating and drinking I was doing. I've not cut out drinking entirely, but I've limited it to drinking out rather than buying stuff for at home.

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