Yeah.
Yeah.
That was good.
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Yep enjoyed that. Not sure it was worth staying up for but still decent. The winterfell stuff was great.
I enjoyed this weeks too. Good end to the season but it's going to be a long wait now.
That was belting.
Bran Stark's "I am the three eyed raven" makes me crease up every time. Fucking weirdo.
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I saw that somewhere and it's pretty spot on:
"Illustration of the pacing of the series"
About to watch the last episode. Holy shit balls.
I was waiting for whatever the fuck was meant to be happening in that show for ages. The last 15 or so minutes redeemed the whole thing, really.
Edit: OK then removing spoilers .
- Fucking ace seeing Littlefinger get shafted.
- Are they just going to gloss over the whole incest thing with Jon and Denaerys?
- I suspect she'll get pregnant now, since it's been brought up about 20 times in the past 2 or 3 episodes
-... And Jon and/or Denaerys will for sure die next season
- What was up with Tyrions brooding outside their door?
- Did Tormund die? Please please no
- How in the fuck are they going to get their shit together in time? Those wights do seem like slow marchers I suppose
- It's all set up for some sort of showdown between Denaerys & co and Cersei after all, but fuck knows when they will have time to sort something like that out.
- I'm sure Sam randomly brought the 4 books from Oldtown that will happen to contain some very crucial information
- That, no doubt, cuntface Bran couldv'e just said, at the end of the day
Also:
- Feel like I predicted most stuff that would happen here. Which is a bad thing.
- At least now I'm quite unclear what the fuck might happen
I think we're okay not using spoilers now the episode has aired.
It was all the better for being slower in that episode I thought.
The pace was alright in a way, yeah, after so much happening before.
It just sort of made me wonder constantly what would happen.
I fucking knew the Wall was coming down, but if Tormund's dead (he won't be) my toys are all going out of the pram. Beyond the ending I think the highlights of a good episode were Littlefinger's trial and the Jamie/ Cersei scene.
For a split second I thought she was actually giving the Mountain the nod.
Tormund and Beric better not be dead. I can't see it, especially when one's been brought back from death 6 times.
The pacing issue seems a bit stupid as well given that all the episodes have been longer to the tune of about two hours over the full series. So why not just add a bit more development (or distance scenes) and have the normal ten episodes? Is it because the cast are all on huge per episode contracts now?
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@Ian: Felt like she sort of gave him the nod or sth, which prompted Jamie's final outburst.
Here's to the Night's King inexicably having a four episode stopover in Moletown for another round of fiendish sudoku before he bothers to use the killer ice dragon again.
That was probably the most predictable episode they've ever made. It was all executed well enough, but the only thing in there that hasn't been obvious for somewhere between months and years was the Golden Company, and even then it was only really the identity of the army Cersei would buy off that was a mystery.
The best thing about that was Little O'Finger's trial. That and Ser Royce telling him to do one when he wanted to flee.
Bran talking about how they're related over the top of the shipsex.
Also, I legitimately thought for a moment that Cersei was going to order Jaime killed. That would have been one hell of an ending.
Similarly, I actually hope Tormund and Beric were killed at the wall. Sometimes main characters die, and they seem pretty expendable story-wise.
Beric spent most of the last episode saying THE LORD OF LIGHT BROUGHT ME BACK FOR A REASON so I imagine they'll be fine.
Cracking episode. Incest
I guess now that the politics is basically done they can croak all the Machiavellian types as they're no longer required.
Well he probably knows the ice dragon, while it will kill whichever one Aunty Dany has that isn't Drogon, will then get his head kicked in by Drogon so he'll be holding him back.
And he loves sudoku.
They won't kill a fan favourite like Tormund without at least properly showing his death I don't think.
I don't think they should let fan sentiment stand in the way, to be honest. The series should pull the rug out from under us occasionally.
How they bring all that stuff to a satisfactory conclusion strikes me as the biggest challenge in the next series.
They shouldn't but they will as they have proven for the last few seasons.
I don't mean they won't kill him though. I just expect them to make a (relatively) big deal about it in episode 1 of next season if that's the case.
First rule of TV: if you don't see them die, they're not dead.
Although I think the Blackfish (don) did suffer this fate.
Stannis also.
I assumed it was the whole "getting Jon Snow north of the wall" adventure.
I'm more interested in what roles the gods play. It's pretty clear that the Lord of Light is getting quite involved, and you'd have to think all this drowned god foreshadowing is going somewhere as well. Not to mention the prince who was promised/stallion who mounts the world/azor ahai stuff. If it's all just generic "chosen one" garbage, I'll be a bit disappointed. I kind of like the idea of the Lord of Light being a bad guy, although there's not a lot of time left to develop the idea.
I mean that stuff. If the Lord of Light has only seen fit to bring two people back to life (along with cloaking devices and fanny magic), then that needs a proper explanation.
I think it's possible that the Hound having an important role to play could be played as a solid reason for resurrecting Beric, if they wanted to do it that way. Having him convince the Hound that there's something worth fighting for, etc.
But yeah, it seems like there's a bigger arc that we haven't been really exposed to yet. Possibly if they explore the motivations and past of the Night's King (if he has motivation and past, which I hope he does)?
SPOILER regarding Cersei's eventual fate:
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Is it a spoiler if it was first discussed 6 weeks ago?
How safe is that to open? Just a theory or have you hacked HBO's script department?
As Adamski said it was openly posted in here weeks ago anyway, but it's a screenshot of an earlier episode and associated theory. And it's basically just a more specific version of something most of us have (again, openly) already said.
I still don't get it.
If you assume that the dragon has three heads and it needs a Targaryen to control one then you'll have Dany on Drogon, Jon on Rhaegal, and the Night King on Viserion.
Maybe that will have something to do with it I.e. something to do with the origins of the Targaryen dynasty and who he is.
In the books, at least (can't remember if this was in an earlier series as well), the vision that some old Witch has for Cersei when she is young states that:
- She will be queen
- She will have 3 children
- They will all die
- Her husband will have 21 children or something (Robert)
- She will die at the hands of a "Valonqar" which could mean anything, but seems to mean "little brother" if you google around
I liked the Night's King better when he was standing in the middle distance glaring in silence. Riding the dragon he just looked like a crap smurf.
Yeah the brooding thing was quite cool.
Then again, it would be nice with a little bit of context about him / them. Do they speak, for instance?
And, what's really their motivation for invading shit? It's not as if they are looking to get warmer I suppose.
In the books you never actually see the others, other than the one occasion when Sam fights one, and they are more of an unseen, lingering threat. I feel like they could have played it that way a lot more in the series as well. I think once you see them regularly you have to know a bit more about them than we've been shown.
The whole thing is called A Song of Ice and Fire...
Yes I know that.
That doesn't explain their motives, does it?
Do we think they'll get more background than "they're evil, and maybe once this guy was a Targaryen/Stark"?
Also, are wights warg-proof, or is Bran going to save the day?
The entire series has been based around every character having complex motivations behind what they do (although this has been abandoned somewhat since they ran out of source material), it's the reason a non-fantasy fan like me watches it when I find Lord of the Rings style Good vs Evil plots a complete bore.
The Night's King and his mates shouldn't be any different.
I Googled a bit and found someone claiming that GRRM has told a journalist - or something - "Oh so you think they are Evil, do you?" or some such, on the topic of the White Walkers.
Of course, seems like the kind of thing he'd say just to mindfuck people, but still.
Finally caught up with this shit in the last few days. Last season was entertaining enough, but the timelines were complete lol. Such weak writing. It is also getting even more cliche/cringey than usual ('How do you respond to the charges *dum dum dum* LITTLEFINGER! *Ooooooooh!*) some proper soap opera stuff in there.
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